Null Stone - Spell Block List

[Tyrando]

The thread to end all threads on the subject quite simply, this is a list of all the spells that are Blocked by Nullstone, all spells were directed to the Hero with Nullstone Equipped.

Extra Info:


** Null Stone won't block projectiles if they are in mid-air (if Null Stone was on cooldown at cast action time and not on cooldown when projectile impacts), which is why some projectiles need that <combat line.

The exceptions are if the skill has projectile="(projectile)" in their parameters because Null Stone checks <onimpact at cast action time and at the time the projectile impacts, ie Andromeda's Comet.

target_entity and target_dual are the only spells blocked by Null Stone.

Heroes are colour-coded according to primary stat, STR/AGI/INT.
Spells are Teal
Ultimates are Yellow
Items/Spells from items are Purple
Neutral Creeps are Dark Green
Initial Target = first in a chain of spells, e.g. Swiftblade targets you first rather than him bouncing to you during his ultimate.
Directed Target = The spell was aimed for you specifically, e.g. Hammerstorm throws his stun at you rather than at the creep stood next to you.

Strength:

Accursed:
Cauterize

Armadon:
Snot Storm

Balphagore:
Demonic Pathogen (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Deadwood:
Oakbolt
Willowmaker

Devourer:
Devour

Electrician:
Static Grip
Cleansing Shock

Gauntlet:
Gauntlet Blast

Gladiator:
Showdown

Hammerstorm:
Hammer Throw (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Kraken:
Torrent

Legionnaire:
Terrifying Charge (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Decapitate

Pandamonium:
Flick
Face Smash

Pebbles:
Chuck (Prevents targets being thrown AT you, does not prevent being thrown)

Pestilence:
Swarm

Predator:
Venomous Leap

Rampage:
Stampede
The Chains that Bind

Tundra:
Cold Shoulder
Avalanche


Agility:

Andromeda:
Comet
Void Rip

Arachna:
Spider Sting

Blood Hunter:
Blood Craze
Hemorrhage

Corrupted Disciple:
Corrupted Conduit

Dampeer:
Vampiric Flight (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Consume

Flint Beastwood:
Money Shot

Magebane:
Mana Rift (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Moonqueen:
Moon Beam

Night Hound:
Pounce

Sand Wraith:
Desert's Curse (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Mirage

Swiftblade:
Swift Slashes (Blocks only if you are the initial target)

Tremble:
Hive Mind (Shudder):
Ensnare

The Dark Lady:
Taint Soul

Intelligence:

Aluna:
Emerald Lightning (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Blacksmith:
Fireball (Prevents Multicast)
Flaming Hammer (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Demented Shaman:
Entangle

Doctor Repulsor:
Opposite Charges

Empath:
Essence Link

Glacius:
Ice Imprisonment

Hellbringer:
Unholy Shackles
Death Boil ( blocks only if you are the directed target)

Myrmidon:
Magic Carp

Ophelia:
Nature's Wrath
Ophelia's Judgement

Plague Rider:
Contagation
Plague Carrier (Blocks only if you are the initial target)

Pollywog Priest:
Electric Jolt (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Morph
Magical Bindings

Puppet Master:
Puppeteer's Hold
Puppet Show
Voodoo Puppet

Pyromancer:
Blazing Strike

Soul Reaper:
Demonic Execution

Succubus:
Smitten
Heartache
Mesmerize
Succubus' Hold

Tempest:
Glacial Blasts

Thunderbringer:
Chain Lightning (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Blast of Lightning
Lightning Storm

Torturer:
Agonizing Bonds (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Vindicator:
Final Chapter

Voodoo Jester:
Acid Cocktail (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Bad Mojo

Witch Slayer:
Miniaturization
Power Drain
Silver Bullet

Wretched Hag:
Haunt

Items:

Codex
Hellflower
Nullfire Blade - Purge
Stormspirit
Tablet of Command
Puzzlebox Wizard - Mana Burn
Kuldra's Sheepstick

Neutral Creeps:
Skeleton King - The King's Grip
Vagabond Assassin - The Assassin's Touch
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List is updated to Patch 2.0.11

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=237418

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Bugs:

None currently GG!

[VisisVis]

Assuming my practice mode isn't bugged, Soul Reaper's Judgment will trigger Nullstone without blocking the damage, same as Armadon's spines.

Also, Sand Wraith's ult is blocked by Nullstone (images will spawn next to your allies, but not you).

[ElementUser]

Moved to Guides & Lists.

Thanks for taking the time to make this list!

[Tyrando]

Assuming my practice mode isn't bugged, Soul Reaper's Judgment will trigger Nullstone without blocking the damage, same as Armadon's spines.

Also, Sand Wraith's ult is blocked by Nullstone (images will spawn next to your allies, but not you).

Judgement both Heal/Damage isnt triggering Nullstone for me.

Ill update the list to include Nullstone blocking Mirage.

[Sukari]

Hmm interesting.

That Scout one.. I wonder if that's a bug?

[Tyrando]

EDIT: You guys are either insane or haven't tested Nullstone recently. You do know it blocks things like Plague Rider's Ult... all of it. And Swiftblade's ult. And Tiny's Toss. And Arachna's Ult. And Thunderbringer's Ult. And every other single target ability in the game, be it magic or not. Even Predator's Leap is blocked by it.

Im just goin by his words :)

[Kwaurtz]

Awesome Tyrando, finally one of us got off of our asses.

[Cow]

Whats the logic behind this? Just curious

[Tyrando]

Well nullstone wasnt a popular item and needed buffs, eventually S2 changed it to work agaisnt all single target spells, so i formed a list to see what works & what doesnt and tbh with knowing that i can now say that Nullstone is a great item agaisnt certain heroes like Swift/Aracha/Plague Rider where before i would of never known it blocks their ultimates entirely.

[Cow]

ok, so its all single target spells. Thats what I wanted to know

[Tyrando]

Updated with Corrupted Disciple.

[Well_Shebber]

tl;dr: Any spell which involves clicking directly on an enemy hero.

[SkeIeton]

(plague rider) I assume that nullstone only procs if it is the targeted one did u test on bounce i assume i probably proc but not stop it

[LastDragon`]

Soul reapers Judgement also activates but doesn't block.

[Tyrando]

(plague rider) I assume that nullstone only procs if it is the targeted one did u test on bounce i assume i probably proc but not stop it

Tested this, it only completely blocks it if the first bounce is directed at the Nullstone if not then it never activates and it will bounce on and off you like normal.

Soul Reapers judgement is interesting i must say, check this out.

Sometimes it doesnt activate it and sometimes it does, it must have some really messed up code :P

It seems to cause Nullstone to work every 2nd Judgement

[VisisVis]

It seems to cause Nullstone to work every 2nd Judgement

This is what happened to me the first time I tried it, but IIRC, it would only trigger every other time when I used Refresh in practice mode, whereas if I waited for the Nullstone cooldown, it would trigger it each time.

However, when I re-tested it before posting here originally, it would trigger every single time, no matter what I did. Strange behaviour, indeed.

[Tyrando]

Hmm idd, Bugs found, Jedi needed!

[thugg_life]

I completely bugged out my practice mode just now testing these. I'm not sure how it happened but using succubus' abilities on legionnaire carrying a stone glitched everything out. The abilities would not go on cool down, and attempting to re-cast them would make the level up animation and sound play on succubus, and weird random spell effects play on legionnaire. For instance weird things would spin around above his head, or defiler's death wave would shoot out of him and hit nothing. She was neutral if that's related.

[SkeIeton]

Ok Tyrando Next question is Swift blades ult if he bounce to u does it get dispelled and if he targets you directly does he stop or do u not take the damage for that particular swing

[Tyrando]

it works like Plague Riders ultimate, if he directs it at you it stops the ultimately completely, if he doesnt direct it at you the ultimate will act as if Nullstone doesnt exist.

Edit: updated with Witch Hunter.

[Noso]

On Hammerstorm:

I was reading this at work so I cannot test myself...

If you are the target: Does it totally nullify it or will it still stun everyone in the radius but you?

If you are not the target but in stun radius: Will you get stunned? (and in this case, how does the cooldown on the stone behave?

Sorry if this is nit-picking but it was something that popped into my head while reading your *great* post

[Tyrando]

it works just like the other spells that require a target and have an aoe effect, if Hammerstorm targets the nullstone the spell is voided completely (no aoe stun either) if he targets someone near you the spell will act as if nullstone isnt there.

[Allnighte]

Voodoo Jester:
Acid Cocktail

is that for the initial cast or the bounces too?

[Tyrando]

Again like the other spells of its kinda, it blocks the initial cast, if it simply bounces off someone towards you it acts as if nullstone isnt there.

[krucifix]

Plage Carrier

[Tyrando]

nice spot :O

[GagReflex]

Does anyone know that if someone clicks directly on you instead of the ground now does it trigger the Nullstone? I believe it should now since the patch.

thanks in advance

edit:
The Nullstone list makes no mention of it but I believe it may be out of date

[ElementUser]

You should've posted it in that topic, where Tyrando is more likely to see it & respond.

So I moved it there

[Tyrando]

ill throw some tests up in the morning for all the changed stuff, however in my timezone its bed time :P

expect an update in around 12 hours :D

[ElementUser]

Lava Surge, Fissure and Graveyard procs Null Stone if you target the unit directly & the spell is totally negated (put on cooldown as well).

[Tyrando]

updated thnx, ill have to perform another fissure test when Behemoth gets fixed because the damage (of like 100) still goes through the stone.

[Jeza]

Why does it block Lightning Storm? Isn't a targeted spell?

Also semi-related, I'd like to buy this item more but I'm unusure as to which are the best heroes for it, so maybe people could post a casual few names of heroes they like to get it on, cheers.

[Tyrando]

you dont target lightning storm it target's itself, like Valk's AoE or KotF's Roots, they dont require you to target a specific AoE like Pyromancer.

Nullstone isnt an item for any specific hero, its purely a counter item, going from the list you can see its a great counter against heroes like Arachna & Swiftblade, nullstone having a cd of 20 seconds means Arachna can never land her ultimate on you ever unless someone else breaks the mold.

Swiftblade has the same problem, he's required to target a nearby enemy to get it to hit you & with it being random that may not go down to well for him.

Succubus gets raped by this because it blocks all 4 of her spells, etc.

It's not an item you decide to build from scratch, you need to look at your enemies line-up and think, will nullstone be useful here?

going with the above i usually build it as my first luxury item, since it gives nice regen and a bonus to all stats.

[Lothrik]

"Plague Carrier (Blocks only if you are the initial target)"

This is a bug as far as I'm concerned. In DOTA with Lich's Chain Frost, the damage on first hit to yourself is blocked, but bounces still occur. Currently in HoN the bounces do NOT occur.

[ElementUser]

But Linken's was very weak in DotA, so now most of Null Stone's faults are fixed through the HoN Engine.

So it's intended

[Erf]

Very nice list, thanks for compiling it.

[Thysios]

Legionnaire:
Terrify
Decapitate

Did Linkins block Culling blade in DotA?

Could of sworn it didn't

[jimmikuhl]

I came across something i would like others to check as well. If you use Scout Ulti on someone with a Voidstone it cancels but the CD does not start. Can someone plz doublecheck that b4 i post that as a bug?

[Tyrando]

Voidstone?

you reffering to Nullstone or Void Talisman?

very different items

[jimmikuhl]

Sorry about that. NULL STONE oc.
Since being in a Thread about that specific item and the other not having any spell-block abilities that should have been obvious.. but maybe i was asking for to much. Sorry for my typo.

[ElementUser]

I came across something i would like others to check as well. If you use Scout Ulti on someone with a Voidstone it cancels but the CD does not start. Can someone plz doublecheck that b4 i post that as a bug?

It's been like this for a long time (and the same with Sniper's Assassinate in DotA).

Basically, this happens because Scout's ultimate consists of 2 different debuff states at 2 different stages. Null Stone only negates the first one and Scout's ultimate does not go on cooldown until it actually fires the projectile.

When Scout is channeling the spell, this is applied to the enemy:
name="State_Scout_Ability4"

After the spell successfully impacts the enemy, this gets applied:
name="State_Scout_Ability4_Slow"

[Tyrando]

that ^

and i already wrote about the bug in the op, at the bottom you can find any problems with Nullstone and specific spells.

[CallofDuty5]

i assume it works with hellbringers boil only if your the main target now

[Tyrando]

ye

if your the main target all of the spell is stopped (wont bounce), if your just a nearby target the spell will act as if Nullstone isnt there.

[Kurpitsa]

Engineer:
Turret: Shots from the turret will trigger Nullstone CD, will block nothing.


Does the cooldown go down from turrets attacks?

[girls]

So, I just got Nullstone against Valk because in DotA, this item blocks arrow.
It does not block arrow in this game. Hoping it was an oversight, because it really should block it.

Going to post a thread about this, most likely.

[Tyrando]

i had my problems with Linkens/Nullstone aswell, specifically with Potm/Valk's Arrow/Jav but S2 have taken a different approach with Nullstone and its working out perfectly fine, besides the current turret bug, only skills that directly target you via player control or via auto (i.e. Thunderbringer's ultimate) will get blocked, a skill like Javelin can hit anything/nothing.

Also yes, Engi's turret will cause Nullstone's new function to take place which will cause your nullstone to rapidly cooldown and be used up :P

[Charging_in]

i'm shocked that deadwoods tree throw isnt blocked

[ElementUser]

i'm shocked that deadwoods tree throw isnt blocked

It does, he just forgot to list it.

Added

[Zann]

Rampage isnt blocked? :O

[ElementUser]

Rampage isnt blocked? :O

It's there...

[Zann]

<,< I looked for it 3 times, I need my eyes checked in this forum

[Donn]

about the magmus's lava surge, nullstone blocks it if it isnt on CD, am i correct? But what happens exactly? does everyone in the AoE except you get stunned, or does the stun have no effect? question also applies to Hammerstorm's hammer throw.

[ElementUser]

Completely nullifies any effects of the spell :/

[Donn]

niice ty :smile:

[Tyrando]

puts in on cd, takes their mana, and nothing happens, heck it even throws people off for a good 1 second :D

funny watching Swiftblade stand there for few seconds thinking WTF?

[Swindled`]

add charged hammer/thunderclaw lightning procs to the list

[Tyrando]

neither item has any effect on Nullstone

[ElementUser]

Don't doubt Tyrando now

Even though he's not as mech-savvy as some of us, he's still a nice helping hand here :3 :)

[Swindled`]

neither item has any effect on Nullstone

so i just tested in practice mode and it doesnt work there, but i swear ive seen it work in actual games before...

is it one of those weird bugs with practice mode or am i stupid? :confused:

[ElementUser]

Match ID or it didn't happen

:)

[Tyrando]

was it Engineers Turret by any chance?

the 2nd/3rd shot afaik or somewhat like that Sends Nullstone into a ragefit

[Tape]

Every third shot of the turret.

Also, for reasons unknown, the Null Stone's cooldown is reduced to three seconds if it is used up by the turret.

[Tyrando]

its every 2nd & 3rd

2nd causes Null to proc, 3rd removes 5 seconds from the CD due to Nullstone's new awesome function

[Tape]

<combatsupertype supertype="spell">
<condition test="isready">
<negate>
<playeffect effect="impact.effect" target="source_entity" source="source_entity" />
<startcooldown />
</negate>
</condition>
<else>
<reducecooldown duration="5000" />
</else>That was all I could find on the cooldown reduction.

I'll take your word for it though.

[belendel]

Does nullstone also block magmus stun when the hero is not directly targeted?

[Tyrando]

no, if Magmus targets the ground he'll stun you like he would anyone else

[Tape]

Does nullstone also block magmus stun when the hero is not directly targeted?

No. Null Stone will not nullify the spell if the carrier is not targeted,

If you use Lava Surge and actually click the carrier of the Null Stone, Lava Surge will be nullified. However, if you simply click behind the carrier they will still get stunned and Null Stone will not go off.

[Swindled`]

was it Engineers Turret by any chance?

the 2nd/3rd shot afaik or somewhat like that Sends Nullstone into a ragefit

hmm, that must have been it

thunderclaw is pretty much a given in any engineer build these days so I guess I didn't notice it was the turret and not the thunderclaw

[roarp]

From the list it says if pebbles chuck something at you, he can't chuck it if you got the nullstone, but if he chucks you at something else then nullstone will not be taken to effect

What happens if hes trying to chuck you on yourself? So you got chuck but you can't land on yourself??

[Tyrando]

it will be blocked because he cant throw at you

nullstone eats the spell before it takes effect, so you wont even be lifted up

[Gowerly]

Quick Q. Pollywog: You don't say in Jolt that it doesn't only block if you are the target. Does it always block a Jolt on you?

[Tyrando]

good eyes

[DarkAgonizer]

I am adding a swifblade retaliation

watch this http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/m...hp?mid=3053600 (http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=3053600)

in 43min i think....
just when i died 2nd time if u don`t believe

something like a star appearing from swiftblade to poly

to complete this post ..

[voidpredator]

it really block final chapter??:vind::vind::vind:

aww man:( it's supposed to be superior

[Omerta]

it really block final chapter??:vind::vind::vind:

aww man:( it's supposed to be superior

That's what makes null stone better then BKB. It negates Superior magic. BKB will block the damage of succu's ult but hold him in place. Sometimes they just need to be held in place.

At the same time, people will blow cheap low mana spells to negate your null stone to counter it. Just as Shrunken head down the line of charges becomes more of de-buff then a magic immunity. Both items have their flaws and is a just balance for items on the board of "game winning".

[Tyrando]

updated, been away for long time, if i missed anythin lemme know :P

[Vahn]

Graveyard (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Fissure (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Lava Surge (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

All are no longer blocked.

[ElementUser]

target_dual spells in general are not blocked anymore

[Demonic150]

I'm pretty sure that Andromeda's ability to reduce attack is also blocked if you are the directed target.

[Vahn]

You can't target an enemy with that...

[Tyrando]

updated, it seems only Sandwraith's Desert Curse is blocked by nullstone unlike the aforementioned skills that can target both Hero/Ground.

[BloodyJester]

Tyrando

Great Job u did here, just a small sugest at Hag, put an obs saying it sonly block Haunt First Skill, and dont block Haunt from ult (just to make things more clear for "newbies")

PS; Sorry for my bad english but i think u understand it right?

[theoutsider]

since deadwood and kotf are giant trees, hatchet should work on them and nullstone should block it.

[Habile]

since deadwood and kotf are giant trees, hatchet should work on them and nullstone should block it.

And since you're an outsider, you shouldn't get a say in how things ought to work!

. . . I kid. . !

[Tyrando]

Tyrando

Great Job u did here, just a small sugest at Hag, put an obs saying it sonly block Haunt First Skill, and dont block Haunt from ult (just to make things more clear for "newbies")

PS; Sorry for my bad english but i think u understand it right?

i understand what you mean but the list is pretty concise, the debuff from the ultimate is "Haunted"

[AdolfSlither]

Thanks on this nice contribution sir.

[ElementUser]

updated, it seems only Sandwraith's Desert Curse is blocked by nullstone unlike the aforementioned skills that can target both Hero/Ground.

Sand Wraith's Desert's Curse is target_dual and not target_dual_position is why this is so.

EDIT:

Tyrando, you should update near the top of your post that target_entity and target_dual are the only spells blocked by Null Stone.

[Zelfana]

I'd guess this now also doubles as a list for spells that apply Frostwolf's Skull's debuff.

[HoboJones]

Damp's Vampiric Flight should state 'direct target,' as it will still do damage if he flies over you.

[Tyrando]

updated :)

[Spiriax]

Thanks Tyrando! Just what I needed.

Although what Nullstone blocks and doesn't block is pretty obvious, it's just the target-every-hero-on-the-opposite-team kind of ultimates like TB's or SW's that made me a little confused. But now I get it. :)

[Xalphiron]

Nomad Mirage Strike/True Strike? :)

[Clarry]

The thread to end all threads on the subject quite simply, this is a list of all the spells that are Blocked by Nullstone, all spells were directed to the Hero with Nullstone Equipped.

Extra Info:



Heroes are colour-coded according to primary stat, STR/AGI/INT.
Spells are Teal
Ultimates are Yellow
Items/Spells from items are Purple
Neutral Creeps are Dark Green
Initial Target = first in a chain of spells, e.g. Swiftblade targets you first rather than him bouncing to you during his ultimate.
Directed Target = The spell was aimed for you specifically, e.g. Hammerstorm throws his stun at you rather than at the creep stood next to you.

Strength:

Accursed:
Cauterize

Armadon:
Snot Storm

Balphagore:
Demonic Pathogen (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Deadwood:
Oakbolt
Willowmaker

Devourer:
Devour

Electrician:
Static Grip
Cleansing Shock

Gauntlet:
Gauntlet Blast

Gladiator:
Showdown

Hammerstorm:
Hammer Throw (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Kraken:
Torrent

Legionnaire:
Terrifying Charge (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Decapitate

Pandamonium:
Flick
Face Smash

Pebbles:
Chuck (Prevents targets being thrown AT you, does not prevent being thrown)

Pestilence:
Swarm

Predator:
Venomous Leap

Rampage:
Stampede
The Chains that Bind

Tundra:
Cold Shoulder
Avalanche


Agility:

Andromeda:
Comet
Void Rip

Arachna:
Spider Sting

Blood Hunter:
Blood Craze
Hemorrhage

Corrupted Disciple:
Corrupted Conduit

Dampeer:
Vampiric Flight (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Consume

Flint Beastwood:
Money Shot

Magebane:
Mana Rift (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Moonqueen:
Moon Beam

Night Hound:
Pounce

Sand Wraith:
Desert's Curse (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Mirage

Swiftblade:
Swift Slashes (Blocks only if you are the initial target)

Tremble:
Hive Mind (Shudder):
Ensnare

The Dark Lady:
Taint Soul

Intelligence:

Aluna:
Emerald Lightning (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Blacksmith:
Fireball (Prevents Multicast)
Flaming Hammer (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Demented Shaman:
Entangle

Doctor Repulsor:
Opposite Charges

Empath:
Essence Link

Glacius:
Ice Imprisonment

Hellbringer:
Unholy Shackles
Death Boil ( blocks only if you are the directed target)

Myrmidon:
Magic Carp

Ophelia:
Nature's Wrath
Ophelia's Judgement

Plague Rider:
Contagation
Plague Carrier (Blocks only if you are the initial target)

Pollywog Priest:
Electric Jolt (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Morph
Magical Bindings

Puppet Master:
Puppeteer's Hold
Puppet Show
Voodoo Puppet

Pyromancer:
Blazing Strike

Soul Reaper:
Demonic Execution

Succubus:
Smitten
Heartache
Mesmerize
Succubus' Hold

Tempest:
Glacial Blasts

Thunderbringer:
Chain Lightning (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Blast of Lightning
Lightning Storm

Torturer:
Agonizing Bonds (Blocks only if you are the directed target)

Vindicator:
Final Chapter

Voodoo Jester:
Acid Cocktail (Blocks only if you are the directed target)
Bad Mojo

Witch Slayer:
Miniaturization
Power Drain
Silver Bullet

Wretched Hag:
Haunt

Items:

Codex
Hellflower
Nullfire Blade - Purge
Stormspirit
Tablet of Command
Puzzlebox Wizard - Mana Burn
Kuldra's Sheepstick

Neutral Creeps:
Skeleton King - The King's Grip
Vagabond Assassin - The Assassin's Touch
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List is updated to Patch 2.0.11


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Bugs:

None currently GG!


Breakycpk on honcast should have this, REALLY.

[RunninDaGame]

nice info