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ZexOmaN
01-02-2012, 10:56 PM
I played a lot of games, lot of games with :keep: and by my oppinion and so many different builds this is best balance and best contribution from this hero, he just destroying with this build and he is IN GAME, almost whole game after his core mana sorcery. TRY, DESTROY YOUR ENEMY AND COMMENT PLZ, cheers !


http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroesguide_view.php?gid=96913

ISQSNI
01-02-2012, 11:01 PM
love it already , will try now in practice :)

Epidemilk
01-03-2012, 12:11 AM
Every time I can remember seeing him in pro, he got an early RoS, almost never see it in my games :(

PrestonLee
01-03-2012, 12:22 AM
ugh, alchemist bones :(

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- 1st of all you will try to kill an enemy courir,go somewhere near centre map, take your ANIME FOREST trees and send them to go around and through side towers, if enemy did't upgraded or moved their courir pet is dead :)Lol i have to try this sometime :p

Jeen_Lander
01-03-2012, 06:51 AM
mana ring is a good item however when i play keeper i cant help but feeling that if i stay in the jungle all game farming a buttload only coming out to push towers once im level 6, chalice solves all my mana issues for way cheaper and the healthloss is almost meaningless

Sesc
01-03-2012, 11:31 AM
If you advice Mana RIng and Sols you wanna go for the hardcore pushing Keeper early on which is why PBox deserves a spot in your item build imo. Situational though.

wulfgar863
01-03-2012, 12:16 PM
You can't put " Best " and " in my opinion " in the same sentence. stay casual

Farosarg
01-03-2012, 02:40 PM
I like RoS just to make sure that I'll have quaranteed mana for ganking when I hit level 6. It also transitions well for the pushing/teamfighting keeper along with PK, Sol's, Abyssal and eventually Daemonic. Post Haste are also one of my favorite items to rush right after RoS if I'm in a good midgame setup.

fata`
01-03-2012, 06:02 PM
TOP BUILD M8, i tryied and i support at the start and then carry lot of games, it's amazing how keeper destroying with this build. THUMBS UP FOR SEMI SUPPORT CARRY :keep:

Or1m
01-04-2012, 06:09 AM
you rly should skip the alchebones and go Push Ring -> Mana Ring -> and then its all up to what ur facing. Sols if no1 else gets it or PK if u lack initiate

DrunkHON
01-04-2012, 01:37 PM
SnY is trash if it isnt disassembled into geobane and frostwolf.

ISQSNI
01-04-2012, 02:04 PM
it's far away for trash, dont speak if u didnt tryed. With S&Y on keeper + shurken you can destroy any enemy int hero beacuse they cant run away from you, and keeper dmg is amazing. I tryed this build and it's awesome, problem is if you get retarded team that they cant play smart and not feeding...

ZexOmaN
01-04-2012, 02:13 PM
you rly should skip the alchebones and go Push Ring -> Mana Ring -> and then its all up to what ur facing. Sols if no1 else gets it or PK if u lack initiate

Nope, i thought the same but with earlier ROS you got early push but if they def hard you lack with farm, with ALCHEMIST u uber farm whole game with trees, double stacks and stuff like that, and it rly helps also because keeper needs attack speed. I am not fun of alchemist but they suits him perfect.

p.s. and yea ISQSNI, frostburn is amazing on keeper because of facts that you sayed, it's amazing how easy he kill's with itm + movement speed no1 can run away from big christmas tree :D

PrestonLee
01-04-2012, 03:37 PM
Nope, i thought the same but with earlier ROS you got early push but if they def hard you lack with farm, with ALCHEMIST u uber farm whole game with trees, double stacks and stuff like that, and it rly helps also because keeper needs attack speed. I am not fun of alchemist but they suits him perfect. I see the reasons why :AlchemistBones: would be a decent pickup to gaurantee your farm later game, but I really think just getting an early :Steamboots: would help you farm faster on top of being more useful the first 10 minutes or so, and as bad as this sounds you can get an :ElderParasite: to REALLY speed up your farm and give you insane attack speed for cheap. You don't really need the phase from :EnhancedMarchers: either in my opinion, yes it will come in handy sometimes but I feel it just isn't needed especially with how your ultimate works.

With that said I see both of them as viable, and it's really just preference. I just feel :AlchemistBones:+:EnhancedMarchers: is way more pubby than Steams+Elder (though both of them are pubby :p). In the VERY long run, :AlchemistBones:+:EnhancedMarchers: will give you the higher GPM output, but :Steamboots:+:ElderParasite: will speed up your farming rate by A LOT MORE the first 15 minutes of the game and allow you to snowball much easier (you reach your prime much earlier, and you can push towers down much faster earlier on with :Steamboots:+:ElderParasite: on along with your other pickups). The Alchs+Phase does allow you to use :frostburn: or :Shieldbreaker: as an attack mod more effectively though.

tl;dr - I think your build works fine, it's really just preference and also based on situation which build should be done though. and ideally if your team is capable, you shouldn't have to go carry with Keeper and can just focus on pushing/support pickups (:SolsBulwark: :AbyssalSkull: :RestorationStone: :Portalkey: :KuldrasSheepstick:/:FrostfieldPlate: etc. instead of those carry-oriented pickups :ShrunkenHead: :Riftshards: :SavageMace: etc.), which is why I don't think Alch is needed :p

and the link to your guide doesn't work atm :/ "GUIDE NOT FOUND"

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nevermind, it's up again :p

ZexOmaN
01-04-2012, 04:07 PM
Thanks for your analysis m8, i appriciate that. I will try your proposal and btw i play pub usually, when i go with some friends, some team i play fully support keeper ( with RoT + astro many times), like u said, but in pubs you can trust just to yourself :))