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arsa90
10-28-2009, 12:35 PM
Can anybody send mi a tutorial how i be good wiht my favorit hero VAlkyrie ? pls...thx :)

Arkillion
10-28-2009, 12:41 PM
May want to reconsider what you type before you type it sir.

Volshok
10-28-2009, 12:53 PM
1. Quit the game
2. Tie a rope around your neck
3. ???
4. SUICIDE!

Training Ground Forum != General Beta Forum
This is where new players come to learn.


I think there's a guide, I'll try to find it.

EDIT:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=7850&highlight=Valk

Skill order

Level 1 – Javelin of light/Leap
Level 2 - Javelin of light/Leap
Level 3 – Call of the valkyrie
Level 4 - Call of the valkyrie
Level 5 - Call of the valkyrie
Level 6 - Javelin of light
Level 7 - Call of the valkyrie
Level 8 - Javelin of light
Level 9 - Javelin of light
Level 10 - Leap
Level 11 - Prism
Level 12 - Prism
Level 13 - Leap
Level 14 - Leap
Level 15-24 - Stats
Level 25 - Prism

Skills explanation
Whether you're going to take Javelin of light or Leap at your first level depends on if you're going to shoot the arrow straight away, e.g. for a First Blood attempt. If not, take Leap because of the early game escape mechanism to dodge hostile First Blood attempts yourself. Javelin of light and Call of the valkyrie are your main killing devices throughout most of the game thus skilling them is very important.

Call of the valkyrie will be taken over Javelin of light because the arrow's stun is the same at all levels. The 15-60 damage difference between the two abilities is not something extremely important and Call of the valkyrie is much more reliable. Leaping in and using Call of the valkyrie will in most cases guarantee a much higher damage output than missing your arrow and not getting to Call of the valkyrie your target(s) at all.

Call of the Valkyrie is an aoe ability so it will help you more against a double lane or even a triple lane.. Leap is taken at level two though because its use is far away from negligible. Prism is skilled at level 11 and 12 The reason why you want it to be at least at level two is because level one is fine but it's not strong enough in the long run. However, Prism can be neat on some few occasions and you never know when you really have to use it.

Having it as a backup (or for other purposes) ability is good. However, the last level is not really needed compared to Stats. The spell's duration is not very long and you're not supposed to use it and run around invisible for years like the Wind Walk ability, so extending its duration as well as its mana cost is not as smart as levelling Stats for more survivability which Valk lacks a bit.

Item Build
Let me preface this section by saying this section is NOT for –em play. Also I try to get these items every game, but Prioritizing them is something that will very from game to game. (ie if you find you don’t need the extra hp because you are outplaying the other team feel free to stack damage, ECT)
The starting items
Duckboots x3
Runes of blightx1
Clairity potionx1



Core item build
Marchers x1 500g
Scroll of tpx1 180g
Bottlex1 600g
Soulscreamring x2 620g
Post haste x1 /Steamboots 2200g /1350
Nullfire Blade/butterfly 3300g /6000g
Behemoth's Heart x1 5500
Total 12900g / 16360

Items not to buy:
Hungry Spirit, Eldar Parasite, Whispering helm and Symbol of rage, are not recommended. Of all the orb effects life steal is prolly the worst one for Valk. Some of these items' survivability boost might be okay but you can get the same survivability or even better on other items for around the same price as well as getting other neat bonuses.
Mock of Brilliance is not recommended. It gives fine damage yes, but you don't really need the immolation for which Mock of Brilliance is bought for. You can spend the gold better somewhere else.
Assassins Shroud is not recommended. Leap should be more than enough to escape and it lets you run almost just as fast as well as increasing your attack speed.

This covers almost everything. However two things I would focus on for the time being;

1) Landing Arrows: Go into practice mode and practice hitting walking creeps with arrows. Or spawn a hero on the other side of creeps and try to throw arrows for him. Good Valk arrows will win games.

2) Last hitting/Denying: Valk's base damage is... annoying to say the least. GO into practice mode and practice last hitting from level 1-3 for a few rounds, should help.

MonkeyIsland
10-28-2009, 01:00 PM
Trolling/Flaming is generally not a good idea in Training Grounds. Everyone was newbie at some point, and the mod's tend to reinforce this with heavy hands and bans.


No but OP does deserve some fish slap for being too lazy to observe grammar, punctuation and spelling when asking a question that if typed into google would yield much more fruitful results.

Wow the number of times I have said something similar to that statement on forums boggles the mind.

Volshok
10-28-2009, 01:10 PM
No but OP does deserve some fish slap for being too lazy to observe grammar, punctuation and spelling when asking a question that if typed into google would yield much more fruitful results.

Wow the number of times I have said something similar to that statement on forums boggles the mind.

Mine was more of a warning to him, because I've done something similar in the past. I changed it to not be as harsh. However the poll is probably the most confusing thing I have seen in a week.

thewishkah
10-28-2009, 07:36 PM
i enjoyed the poll.

as for aiming arrows specifically its mostly just practice and getting to know how people move

Ruscour
10-28-2009, 07:55 PM
Good arrows are gamebreaking, don't be afraid to take a shot in the dark with an arrow, because even if it misses you still gain valuable intelligence from the sight it grants.

thewishkah
10-28-2009, 11:40 PM
cant find the delete post button. maybe a mod could assist..

Tripwyr
10-29-2009, 12:05 AM
I'm not sure what the OP was trying to do with this post, but most of it is either trolling or telling trolls not to troll.

For now, visit this thread for help on playing Valk:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=7850&highlight=Valk

IPlayForKeep
10-29-2009, 12:07 AM
As you can see Trip, and myself are not happy with this thread...re-opening with a hope people will think before replying, one more troll post and this thread will be deleted, and infractions will be handed out.

ZyGote
10-29-2009, 04:38 AM
Good arrows are gamebreaking, don't be afraid to take a shot in the dark with an arrow, because even if it misses you still gain valuable intelligence from the sight it grants.

This. Plus, you feel like a pimp when you can predict where that person will move when he goes into the fog and you hit him :D