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EroticMonkey
10-26-2009, 01:33 PM
Viable ?

Drasha
10-26-2009, 01:37 PM
There are better items for him you are not mana starved in most cases.

TreeHorse
10-26-2009, 01:38 PM
Yep. I'd rate it almost on the same level as Codex though... pubstomping item.

At least it would help with his most dangerous role, pushing lanes fearlessly.

EroticMonkey
10-26-2009, 01:39 PM
but if you,vanish+hellflower or hellflower+ult

and the mana give you perma envi,and the ability to spam our ult ever more

Drasha
10-26-2009, 01:41 PM
but if you,vanish+hellflower or hellflower+ult

and the mana give you perma envi,and the ability to spam our ult ever more
Buy a bottle should solve all of your mana problems and you can store runes its cheaper and more effective.

TreeHorse
10-26-2009, 01:42 PM
Did you make this thread to ask a question or try to justify a quirky pub build for Scout?

Could go either way at this point.

EroticMonkey
10-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Did you make this thread to ask a question or try to justify a quirky pub build for Scout?

Could go either way at this point.

nah,i only remerber the bone with orchid

Tripwyr
10-26-2009, 03:06 PM
Scout != Clinkz. Even then, Orchid was a PuB item even on Clinkz. Not that Clinkz saw anything but PuBs.

IPlayForKeep
10-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Scout != Clinkz. Even then, Orchid was a PuB item even on Clinkz. Not that Clinkz saw anything but PuBs.

True.

Also, why do you right it PuB? Pub = public no need for the capped B you must be thinking of PuG which is pick up group.

OT: Hellflower is viable yes, but not the best choice, runed axe gives you enough mana regen, with good farming capabilities and damage.

JewishNinja
10-26-2009, 04:23 PM
Clinkz actually needed mana. Scout does not. Clinkz autoattacking takes 20 mana a hit. Scout takes roughly 30 per 6 seconds.

tastive
10-26-2009, 04:37 PM
Hellflower is viable in pubs. Scout already has nigh-infinite mana as it is by the time he can get a Hellflower.

Nullfire suits him far, far better.

Darkstrand
10-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Oooh!

Setup Marksman Shot > Shift-queue Hellflower on the target > Rapeface

Sounds so baller, I need to try this.

EvilRebel
10-26-2009, 05:17 PM
Why would he want hellflower when he already has a silence?

Madlobster
10-26-2009, 10:42 PM
The core items for scout would never include hellflower, but its not realy a bad item, cirtanly usefull.
But again, there are alot better items for him realy :)

Meowshi
10-27-2009, 02:08 AM
He already has a silence...

Sagat
10-27-2009, 04:33 AM
If you have to, get a Sustainer. Starting from about level 10 or so, you won't lose mana in invis mode.

Lolololage
10-27-2009, 07:32 AM
Why would he want hellflower when he already has a silence?

Hellflower silence gives a 20% bonus damage to any damage done while the silence is active.

SpookyTuna
10-27-2009, 07:54 AM
Wow, just get a bottle and store dd's....

Stokkolm
10-27-2009, 08:05 AM
Hellflower is a bit overkill. But an arcana orb is quite ok imo, solves your mana problem so you can get a better dps item than runed axe.

tastive
10-27-2009, 08:07 AM
Wow, just get a bottle and store dd's....

Troll. :p

Tripwyr
10-27-2009, 10:23 AM
Hellflower is a targeted silence that can be used while moving, but Scout's silence requires you to stop, place the eye, trigger it, then continue fighting.

They can't even be compared, they are completely different. This isn't like Magebane getting Portal Key, they are two completely different effects.

Lolololage
10-27-2009, 11:20 AM
Hellflower is a targeted silence that can be used while moving, but Scout's silence requires you to stop, place the eye, trigger it, then continue fighting.

They can't even be compared, they are completely different. This isn't like Magebane getting Portal Key, they are two completely different effects.

But. The fact that the scout will usually be unseen means he can place his silence with such ease that there is no need to have a targetted silence that can be used while moving.

Or at least, for its ~5000 cost, you can have much better items.

Usefull, fun maybe, but not really viable if you want to help your team (hard enough as it is with scout)

Vodka
10-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Hellflower MIGHT be worth getting if you need an extra silence, and it helps focus people down a lot easier. Your ult should take out almost half their health if they're hellflowered.

SpookyTuna
10-28-2009, 06:42 AM
Troll. :p

Why am I a Troll mdderfokkurrr:mad: