NASL Attendance

[toughY]

Why in the offical Hon Facebook page showing pictures from the NASL finals is there no one at the event? I mean there is absolutely no one there but players and the two dreadful casters, kinda sad really.

[Panic]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/392327_10150406248484102_63037549101_8565655_54719 0541_n.jpg

[xanderK]

You gotta remember that the match took place at 9 AM on a Friday. A lot of people are still at school/work and aren't able to come today at all.

Even now, I'm watching Mana vs. Morrow and there's maybe 150 people here total. Maybe a few more.

I asked the NASL people and they assured me that attendance is much better on Saturday and ESPECIALLY Sunday. We expect it to be packed most of the day on Sunday.

[Blet`]

more people at dh ? ^^

[Multiply]

ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahah a, GG if you think people will turn up for HoN
you do realize that there is SC2 Finals that day too right?

[Creostar]

there were a strong ~8000 viewers on stream

[miesty]

strong 30k vieweres for starcraft and there was 14k for hon. I have faith.

[Wolfrar]

Too early to tell. As some guy said, theres no one really at SC2 either. Friday mornings, most people busy.

[gnaggwadschn]

I heard S2 payed large sums only to get attention to their game.
Therefore playing at 9am on friday in front of 20 people must have been worth the money.

But that's S2 advertising for you .... if they ever consider it, it fails miserably.
Like that "zoom in zoom out zoom in zoom out zoom in zoom out" cameragay at the interview.

[Fuzzel]

strong 30k vieweres for starcraft and there was 14k for hon. I have faith.

are you dumb or something? those viewer numbers where hugely inflated by people waiting for sc2 to begin....

[miesty]

are you dumb or something? those viewer numbers where hugely inflated by people waiting for sc2 to begin....

yeh im actually a downsyndrome

[Fuzzel]

yeh im actually a downsyndrome

good to know how highly your own 21st chromosome

[waRRR]

Does anyone care enough to travel across the country to watch 4 matches of HoN?

[xanderK]

are you dumb or something? those viewer numbers where hugely inflated by people waiting for sc2 to begin....

For more than two hours. Obviously.


ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahah a, GG if you think people will turn up for HoN

You mean like the absolutely packed theater at Dreamhack last week with the line across the convention center so long that people went to our booth to watch the game instead?



Such bad trolls these days. People need to try harder. :glac:

[Fuzzel]

For more than two hours. Obviously.



You mean like the absolutely packed theater at Dreamhack last week with the line across the convention center so long that people went to our booth to watch the game instead?



Such bad trolls these days. People need to try harder. :glac:

do you have accurate statistics or are you just talking speculative bs like always?

[xanderK]

do you have accurate statistics or are you just talking speculative bs like always?

I wasn't watching the stream all morning but when I looked at the beginning of game one, there was 14k watching the stream. At that point, there was still like 110 minutes of game still to be played in that series.

And for Dreamhack, I was there. Anyone else at the event can vouch for the line that HoN had.

[Psyklone]

Yup I was at DH (and got a shirt from xanderk!), and the crowd was definitely big. The arena even got full for the finals (had some friends who couldn't get in).

[homghomg1]

hahaha so many trolls hating on hon, it's like you genuinely WANT it to do badly.

you don't even really know how many people like to watch it, but you just claim it's dying and it's ****; both because you want it to die and because you hope that by saying it the mindless sheep-brained forum lurkers will believe you and join the bandwagon saying hon is dead

go find something else to do if you don't like hon.

[gnaggwadschn]

When I tuned in for match 2 there were 10k viewers. Didn't follow the count but there weren't few people in the chat asking when sc2 would begin.
DHW peak was 20k viewers btw if I recall correctly.

[Goofpuff]

I wasn't watching the stream all morning but when I looked at the beginning of game one, there was 14k watching the stream. At that point, there was still like 110 minutes of game still to be played in that series.

And for Dreamhack, I was there. Anyone else at the event can vouch for the line that HoN had.

I was in that line that wasnt let into the theater.
It sure was a long line.

[Doinkmoo]

Now we wait for Xander to make a useful NA HoN Lan.

[Fuzzel]

Now we wait for Xander to make a useful NA HoN Lan.

why bother making a NA lan, when comp scene has literally only 1 team from there

[F00RSP00K]

ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahah a, GG if you think people will turn up for HoN

Can somebody ban this shitbird already? He's like the poor shitters who spam the Facebook comment section "HUEHUEHUELoL bettar then HON HUEHEHUE $2 money takers HERPDERP dota-clone".

[Fuzzel]

When I tuned in for match 2 there were 10k viewers. Didn't follow the count but there weren't few people in the chat asking when sc2 would begin.
DHW peak was 20k viewers btw if I recall correctly.


thats pretty close to what ive seen, when i took a look around the middle of game 2 (~12k viewers with streamchat crying for sc2).

[Mediocre]

I dont get it... Why would European teams travel thousands of miles to California only to play a maximum of 2 sets of games (semi + final, or 3rd place match)?

Seems kind of waste of money and time for such pityful prize pool. DHW did include group stages and the event was ALOT bigger, so it would make more sense for American teams to go there... Its like a business trip I guess, but the trip doesnt guarantee you anything.

Also, DH had alot more viewers since you didnt have to PAY to see it. Even SC2 had more viewers on DH.

[Fuzzel]

Aside from ZE every team has a sponsor who you'd think is going to cover most of their expenses.
NASL prizepool is actually really good for a hon tournament, so I don't see why anyone would not want to go there. At the very least its a free trip overseas.

[FootFace]

I wasn't watching the stream all morning but when I looked at the beginning of game one, there was 14k watching the stream. At that point, there was still like 110 minutes of game still to be played in that series.

And for Dreamhack, I was there. Anyone else at the event can vouch for the line that HoN had.

i can vouch for the huge line to the dream arena extreme, holy crap the queue was long

[Tlith]

I dont get it... Why would European teams travel thousands of miles to California only to play a maximum of 2 sets of games (semi + final, or 3rd place match)?

Trip to the US with 4 friends? I would go even if I just broke even. What the hell you talking about?

[BlueBull]

When it was over 1hour left for first game there were 7000 viewers and chat spamming for hon and why it hadn't started.

[Tranc3d]

Still its sad that the two biggest events of Hon competitive history cant hit more viewers than IdrA's stream.

[DutchGold]

I was at the event. It wasnt really anything like xander described it. Maybe some lines getting in for the finals but that was just a little traffic. Plenty of seats for HON, always was.

[daskad]

are you stupid DutchGold? The booth was filled at all games (until the stupid closing times @ 22.00) and for the finals I went to que 1,5h and I wasn't even first!

[DutchGold]

Maybe you got lost and you ended up in the SC2 section bro.. dunno what to tell you

[sirshane]

NASL so far has been a pretty poor event to top that the HoN event is pretty small only like 4 teams if I remember right plus to top that its mainly a SC2 event and the cross over of players that watch SC2 and watch HoN is pretty small.

[el_alcazar]

Maybe you got lost and you ended up in the SC2 section bro.. dunno what to tell you

or you confused dota2 for hon :P

[Kolapz]

Game 1 had stable 10k viewers.
At the start of Game 2 it jumped to 14k and beyond with a significant increase of "when does sc2 start" questions in stream chat.

The numbers HoN gets is nothing to complain about. It's one of the top4 viewed esports at the moment, alongside SC2, LoL and DotA/Dota2. CS 1.6 and QuakeLive are dying out, both in terms of viewership and support from organizations.

HoN had three times the viewers Dota2 had at Dreamhack, although admittedly the Dota2 event was much smaller in terms of prizepool, publicity and number of top teams.

SMM is currently ongoing and as I'm writing this post it has 17k viewers, which is comparable to what HoN had at DH during the groupstage.

[Fuzzel]

3k viewers, sup? moon would prolly get more if he'd stream this game from his basement.

[Herpusderpuz]

I like how you can hear the echo from the huge room with no people in it right now xD

[Kolapz]

3k viewers, sup? moon would prolly get more if he'd stream this game from his basement.

12k, sup?

[error_exe]

12k after s2 promoted this ingame. decent

[Pikarya]

Its Saturday.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2zp6vfc.jpg

Dead gaems/esports.

[Kolapz]

Usa usa usa usa

[RuFF`]

14k
Off topic, any one remember how many was watching the first epic sc2 series with liquid hero vs huow.. something something? Remember me thinking it should be more viewers.

On topic 14k, not bad...thinking mostly eu viewers...american esports fans havent woken up yet...and causal viewers are hung over ^^

[miesty]

Still its sad that the two biggest events of Hon competitive history cant hit more viewers than IdrA's stream.

You say this .. but the NASL game with idra in it couldn't hit more viewers than idra stream.

??

[BaneElement]

we had worst dhw time for finals lol in the morning thats disgusting...ofc we will have less viewers

[Fuzzel]

12k, sup?

inflated by ppl waiting for sc2. kinda annoying that they didnt run both games at the same time with a bigger numer of teams or a loser bracket.

[stoffmaister]

over 2.5 million viewers sup????????????

[Pikarya]

over 2.5 million viewers sup????????????

http://puu.sh/9QU6.jpg

lolno. You can thank the SC2 community for inflating that number two times.

[stoffmaister]

http://puu.sh/9QU6.jpg

lolno. You can thank the SC2 community for inflating that number two times.

lol? was talkin about the international...... XD

[hotbroetchen]

Brat_OK vs. SEN and there are 10 ppl at the event. Why didn ´t they combine the grand finale with a LAN event like Dreamhack. It looks so embarrassing .

[Fuzzel]

Brat_OK vs. SEN and there are 10 ppl at the event. Why didn ´t they combine the grand finale with a LAN event like Dreamhack. It looks so embarrassing .

coz its kinda impossible to play 2 tournaments that big at the same time?

[IPlayLoL]

You mean like the absolutely packed theater at Dreamhack last week with the line across the convention center so long that people went to our booth to watch the game instead?



Such bad trolls these days. People need to try harder. :glac:

Here is the difference, Dreamhack is an event with a LOT of games being played. People travel internationally just to go to Dreamhack, it's a big event, a lot more teams, a lot more HoN and a lot more value. NASL is just SC2 and two games of HoN/day.

There is no reason for anyone to pay $25 and spend 2/3 hours to watch two games of HoN. Pictures say more then 1,000 words of your speculative bullshit, show me a picture of the HoN crowd BEFORE the first game starts. I'll be surprised if you can get more then 50. But good luck trying.

[Hax]

I think it's pretty cool that mclovin is casting sc2.

[Fuzzel]

in sc2:
-us players in top8 1
-eu players in top8 4

in hon:
-eu teams in top4 3 (most likely places 1 to 3)
-na teams in top4 1 (most likely 4th)


i think i see a pattern in NAsl

[PartPy]

Game 1 had stable 10k viewers.
At the start of Game 2 it jumped to 14k and beyond with a significant increase of "when does sc2 start" questions in stream chat.

The numbers HoN gets is nothing to complain about. It's one of the top4 viewed esports at the moment, alongside SC2, LoL and DotA/Dota2. CS 1.6 and QuakeLive are dying out, both in terms of viewership and support from organizations.

HoN had three times the viewers Dota2 had at Dreamhack, although admittedly the Dota2 event was much smaller in terms of prizepool, publicity and number of top teams.

SMM is currently ongoing and as I'm writing this post it has 17k viewers, which is comparable to what HoN had at DH during the groupstage.

Damn, Kolapz. Fighting game community gets no love? (http://shoryuken.com/2011/08/04/evo-championship-series-2011-breaks-online-viewership-records/)

[Wolfrar]

So no ones there still? Kinda expected

Why are there such shitty numbers for SC2 though... only around a hundred or so.

[moyk]

So no ones there still? Kinda expected

Why are there such shitty numbers for SC2 though... only around a hundred or so.
Because this SC2 tournament is one of the "worse" ones out there especially since it had a disappointing first season with tons of hiccups. Combine that with the Koreans dropping out of at the beginning of this second season and you have a lot of fans tuning out of this tournament real fast.

Major SC2 tournaments are: GSL -> MLG -> DH/IPL -> NASL

[Turdburglar]

Only Europeans care about the attendance at "video game events"...

There's just more **** to do over here than going to watch some dudes play video games "live"...

I don't know what's more embarrassing... Making fun of the attendance" at a "video game event", or trying to inflate your "country's" ego by stating you have more nerds attending these "video game events".

But I guess when your weekend entertainment is limited to salmon fishing, cross country skiing and tobogganing... These "video game events" must be like the Super Bowl for ya.

[dYe]

why are people acting impressed that only 12,000 people watched what is supposed to be THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT THIS GAME HAS EVER HAD?

how in any way is that supposed to be impressive/a positive?

there are multiple league of legends streamers who hit this number weekly from PUBLIC GAMES.

when you take a step back and think about it 12k is a really, really depressing number and doesn't look good for the future of our game.

sigh

havent been able to play a hon game in a week. figured sat night would be a good time to try. been in que for 91 minutes now (3rd que since it keeps resetting due to "unable to find players"). 1900+ is a ghost town in hon now. everyones on dota2/LoL. guess ill go back to dota 2 now also after reading that only 12k viewers watch the biggest event in the games history.

[apm120]

dota 2 nasl viewrs numbers are even lower than hon. u mad?

[IPlayLoL]

HEY EVERYBODY, LETS HEAR IT FOR HON *Silence, what game is that?*
LETS HEAR IT FOR SC2 *small crowd cheers*

Waiting on the pictures of the huge crowdddd XanderK, day is well over now. Maybe find a sign or two dedicated for hon?

[PAINTITGOLD]

dye dreamhack winter was bigger than NASL and despite having tournament faults(no loserbracket trolololololol) it was a far better event and a far better tournament overall in comparison to this 1 game a day stuff that's happening, this doesn't feel like an event at all

just throwing that out there, one bo3 a day at 9am pst and 12est is no way to attract viewers

the stories that go along with the events attract the viewers.. the rivalries, the upsets, etc. this doesn't have the same feel as DHW, an actual event, this has a feel of advertisement

[Deityh]

Yeah pretty much agreed. And its the same on SC2 side as well.. Who even remembers anymore how those players did during the season, its too long. Not to mention you cant even have discussion about player performances since its all recorded. Same as Hon. "hey guys teamXXX/playerA was in really good shape month ago when these matches were played!"

NASL is retarded format and thats why it failed so badly.

[Danney1338]

For more than two hours. Obviously.



You mean like the absolutely packed theater at Dreamhack last week with the line across the convention center so long that people went to our booth to watch the game instead?



Such bad trolls these days. People need to try harder. :glac:

After me and my friends talked to DH Crew! :D



And for Dreamhack, I was there. Anyone else at the event can vouch for the line that HoN had.

This.


Also, thanks again for an awesome Dreamhack.

/ Scarfman

[WorstAtHon]

dye dreamhack winter was bigger than NASL and despite having tournament faults(no loserbracket trolololololol) it was a far better event and a far better tournament overall in comparison to this 1 game a day stuff that's happening, this doesn't feel like an event at all

just throwing that out there, one bo3 a day at 9am pst and 12est is no way to attract viewers

the stories that go along with the events attract the viewers.. the rivalries, the upsets, etc. this doesn't have the same feel as DHW, an actual event, this has a feel of advertisement

no loser bracket was stupid as ****. real talk

[sHiNKz]

no loser bracket was stupid as ****. real talk


It's standard for tournaments with group play to not have a losers bracket.

[_Snow]

It's standard for tournaments with group play to not have a losers bracket.
This. Why the **** would you have losers brackets after a group stage?


Josh bro, have you never watched sports? :scou:

[PAINTITGOLD]

It's standard for tournaments with group play to not have a losers bracket.

i'm not too informative on the format, the few times i've ever seen group play (ex:specifically MLG for SC2, they have loser brackets as well as the group play. MYM pride dota tournaments also had a group stage bracket, but it was best of 3 )

but generally I'd reply when the group play can offer consistent results, i would be more inclined to agree

but the nature of best of one matches to set the seedings for group stages doesn't generally offer consistent results

either way loserbrackets are good for tournaments because it helps with the story of the tournament, which is a TON of the hype around the event in the first place

how many people made sure they were watching TDM's games because swindle talked ****? how many people made sure they were up to watch all of FRAY's games because FRAY were the dark horse of the tournament and travelled far and long?

how many people were stoked to watch LIONS vs MSI after era flaunted his confidence and nova said he hates cocky players like era?

the viewer count should only be built 30% off of the high level game play, it's the story and atmosphere surrounding the hype of the event that should build the other 70% viewers

[_Snow]

If the tournament is entirely made up out of a knockout stage, then yes, you should have loser brackets.
The problem with the DH format, if any, was the number of games in the group stage, but it's understandable, considering the time that'd be required.

I doubt you'd really enjoy the format you're suggesting either; the same teams would be in the finals every single tournament, you should be able to knock teams out with impressive performances in a single bo3 series, sports would be no fun without them.
(@paintit)

[GreatCHRONOS]

I agree if you lose a bo3 in a knockout game after groupstage you should be out, then you've had your chances and lost to a better team, simple as.

[PAINTITGOLD]

If the tournament is entirely made up out of a knockout stage, then yes, you should have loser brackets.
The problem with the DH format, if any, was the number of games in the group stage, but it's understandable, considering the time that'd be required.

I doubt you'd really enjoy the format you're suggesting either; the same teams would be in the finals every single tournament, you should be able to knock teams out with impressive performances in a single bo3 series, sports would be no fun without them.
(@paintit)

how can you make the statement that "the same teams" would be in the finals of every tournament blows my mind, it just has no validity what-so-ever, and that's completely besides the fact that the teams that make it to the finals through the loser bracket are the most deserving of making it there, as opposed to losing against something you haven't played against and getting completely knocked out of the tourney

specific example: lions got 2-0'd by the team that won the entire tournament and those were the only games that lion had lost throughout the entire tournament, do you honestly think that's a positive rather than a negative?

OK beat MSI at NASL
OK lost to EZ who got absolutely and completely stomped by MSI at DHW

teams, especially on LAN, are forced to adapt fast as new and different strategies arise, the teams that make the strategies will have the advantage obviously because they've practised the strategies out, and for making them, they deserve that advantage.

ex:stephano at IPL3, beat MMA, the guy who went on to win GSL a week later because of his unknown strategy

i don't know how the dreamhack tournament was run and the constraints they were working around, but the honcast stream had a lot of downtime

[Snip3r_GeR_`]

NASL has a terrible production value compared to its competitors. They haven't improved at all since their first major tournament. The sound, lightening and camera work is terrible, especially if you compare it to how high IPL and MLG have set the bar. The long breaks and matches being shown long after they've finished is a terrible thing, they won't even let go of Gretorp when the majority of the community feels he's a bad and bland caster, with a lack of enthusiasm - he haven't improved one bit since the first season, much like the tournament itself.

Add to the fact that 360p is the free format and you have to pay for 480p+ at the price of $25 is stupid. Dreamhack had 1080p free, IPL had 1080p free, MLG didn't - but their production value was amazing. I decided to pay for all those three events nevertheless, just to support them - because in the end, they had earned it. Unless NASL decides to up their production value, they will end up in the gutter.

http://archive.no-ip.org/images/v/thumb/0953/12/1305507964144s.jpg

[Castiel]

i'm not too informative on the format, the few times i've ever seen group play (ex:specifically MLG for SC2, they have loser brackets as well as the group play. MYM pride dota tournaments also had a group stage bracket, but it was best of 3 )



MLG "Groups" are actually pools of players playing each other only to determine seeding for brackets.
Only top 4 players are seeded into championship bracket and have chance to drop to losers bracket.

Rest of players are seeded directly into losers bracket.

[GregerMoek]

Or maybe it's just that Europeans are more interested than Americans when it comes to actually watching games live!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111oneoenoenoeneoneel even

[Wolfrar]

NASL has a terrible production value compared to its competitors. They haven't improved at all since their first major tournament. The sound, lightening and camera work is terrible, especially if you compare it to how high IPL and MLG have set the bar. The long breaks and matches being shown long after they've finished is a terrible thing, they won't even let go of Gretorp when the majority of the community feels he's a bad and bland caster, with a lack of enthusiasm - he haven't improved one bit since the first season, much like the tournament itself.

Add to the fact that 360p is the free format and you have to pay for 480p+ at the price of $25 is stupid. Dreamhack had 1080p free, IPL had 1080p free, MLG didn't - but their production value was amazing. I decided to pay for all those three events nevertheless, just to support them - because in the end, they had earned it. Unless NASL decides to up their production value, they will end up in the gutter.

http://archive.no-ip.org/images/v/thumb/0953/12/1305507964144s.jpg

Agreed.

[iNsania]

I wasn't watching the stream all morning but when I looked at the beginning of game one, there was 14k watching the stream. At that point, there was still like 110 minutes of game still to be played in that series.

And for Dreamhack, I was there. Anyone else at the event can vouch for the line that HoN had.

Can vouch! Was sick amounts of people there wanting to wtch finals

[cREATEK]

how many people were stoked to watch LIONS vs MSI after era flaunted his confidence and nova said he hates cocky players like era?
actually in the video interview Nova said he was surprised that the LIONS players were so nice online but other than Era the others were really cocky on the LAN event. Also he was surprised that Era was the youngest person on the team and still most mature.

[Talesavo]

dota 2 nasl viewrs numbers are even lower than hon. u mad?

DotA 2 is at NASL?

[Hsssh]

Decent HoN bo3 takes ~2.5 hours, if we add losers bracket then we'd have twice as many games after group stage. Sure, honcast had downtimes during dhw but were they long enough for adding so many more games? Were those downtimes just because they had nothing to do?

Would dhw been better event if it had MSI vs FRAY in winner finals then again them in grand finals? Or rematch of MSI vs Lions? Honestly this sounds redundant and thats how 90% of tournaments with loser brackets ends- same few teams playing it out multiple times and usually with same results.

Losers bracket is a safety net, it makes semi finals or even quarterfinals less interesting and less emotional when you know that your favorite team losing doesn't matter that much, they still got chance in losers bracket. And when loser bracket starts half of the matches, as i said before, are redundant and less interesting because you already saw them.

There is nothing better to see than some underdogs taking out favorites by surprise with super secret strategy or superior and slightly lucky plays. Having loser bracket makes this pointless because favorites will probably make a comeback in loser bracket.

As far as i know there are no basketball or football championships with loser bracket and these sports are very ****ing successful. So why e-sports should try to have different format?

[Mercy]

Because football and basketball don't have 6-10 teams total

[_murli_]

groupstage + Bo3.. is more then enough.. no need for LB

dont know why people expect the better team to win always... i cant remember any NBA/NHL team going 84:0 in a season

this is an american view of things,.. they like the phrase "the best team in the WORLD, the best chronos player in the WORLD,..... arugeable the best jungler in the WORLD.... makes me lol everytime

[Berethorn]

I agree, the final 6/4 in both dreamhack and nasl shouldve been double elimination format. With the finals being bo5, where the winner in the winners bracket is up 1-0 vs winner loser bracket.

[Fuzzel]

As far as i know there are no basketball or football championships with loser bracket and these sports are very ****ing successful. So why e-sports should try to have different format?

coz esport tournaments are a completely different thing than real life sport events????? u stupid?

[Hsssh]

Because football and basketball don't have 6-10 teams total

Depends on country and championship. For example in Lithuania there are 12 basketball teams in "main" league, same amount of HoN teams we had in dhw.

[VHD]

are you dumb or something? those viewer numbers where hugely inflated by people waiting for sc2 to begin....

Lmao - the only reason I tuned into sc2 stream was because it happened to come after the hon segment...

Sc2 numbers are inflated by hon fans too, sir.

[Creostar]

I actually watched last nights SC2 NASL since I have the sub anyways, was pretty good, watching Idra get stomped 3-0 and insta-quit each game as soon as he got a bit behind.

[JOSHJOSHJOSH]

I actually watched last nights SC2 NASL since I have the sub anyways, was pretty good, watching Idra get stomped 3-0 and insta-quit each game as soon as he got a bit behind.
In what country is 16 drones at the 8 minute mark "a bit".

[aepe]

You gotta remember that the match took place at 9 AM on a Friday. A lot of people are still at school/work and aren't able to come today at all.

Even now, I'm watching Mana vs. Morrow and there's maybe 150 people here total. Maybe a few more.

I asked the NASL people and they assured me that attendance is much better on Saturday and ESPECIALLY Sunday. We expect it to be packed most of the day on Sunday.

LOL

:nigh:

[Fuzzel]

In what country is 16 drones at the 8 minute mark "a bit".

retardistan

[man_guy]

Big crowd gathering for the HoN finals.

[Pikarya]

Big crowd gathering for the HoN finals.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4776061965_be488d90de.jpg

[waRRR]

Those chairs looked mighty pleased to be watching the HoN finals.

I'm here on Sunday and the place has good attendance

[Fuzzel]

well.. if you say so i certainly believe you. since youre clearly without bias.

[aepe]

I'm here on Sunday and the place has good attendance

lets see some pictures bro

honcast/s2/nasl staff doesn't count

[Creostar]

lets see some pictures bro

honcast/s2/nasl staff doesn't count

tDm, OK, LION and MSI were all there

[IPlayLoL]

I'm here on Sunday and the place has good attendance

Pictures?

*Edit* You posted 30 minutes ago, of course there is good attendance, SC2 grand finals are on right now.

[Fuzzel]

Pictures?

*Edit* You posted 30 minutes ago, of course there is good attendance, SC2 grand finals are on right now.

nonono thats people who came for hon and are just waiting for their flight back

[Grimace]

You people are so bloody jaded. He was there in person and said attendance was good and you refuse to believe him for no reason at all except the "hate S2" mentality that's prevalent on these forums. Why you choose to jump all over every red-tagged account on this forum is beyond me.

[Fuzzel]

You people are so bloody jaded. He was there in person and said attendance was good and you refuse to believe him for no reason at all except the "hate S2" mentality that's prevalent on these forums. Why you choose to jump all over every red-tagged account on this forum is beyond me.

i saw the walkin ceremony with like 50 ppl welcoming the teams, so i fail to believe that there really was a big crowd at the hon event.

[aepe]

You people are so bloody jaded. He was there in person and said attendance was good and you refuse to believe him for no reason at all except the "hate S2" mentality that's prevalent on these forums. Why you choose to jump all over every red-tagged account on this forum is beyond me.

after seeing pictures and hearing the echo on honcast obviously people are going to question the amount of people attending. would you prefer we just blindly accept whatever is being told to us despite suspecting the opposite?

the reason why people "jump" on a red-tagged name saying something like that is because he is obviously biased. what's wrong with asking for proof? and as far as the attitude goes, welcome to hon forums brah.

[apm120]

i can guarantee everyone was there for sc2 finals and not hon.

[Creostar]

HON matches being shown at 9am probably had a lot to do with low attendance. However, the stream had quite a bit of viewers today, I believe up to 20k for the HON matches this morning

[FloppyTaint]

Why would anyone want to wake up early to watch some nerds click buttons in **** quality anyway? $25? really? pffthahahah

[quellax]

The walking ceremoney was totaly gay. And i LOLD so bad :D.

[Rivoku]

pay to watch esports? pfppppfffttt hahahah. nasl wins the troll award.

[RagingBantha]

HON matches being shown at 9am probably had a lot to do with low attendance. However, the stream had quite a bit of viewers today, I believe up to 20k for the HON matches this morning

26k on the nasl stream in the first match of the Hon finals.

[slick`]

My friend was there and said that attendance was weak for HoN but the place was full up for the starcraft finals.

[Glibber`]

after seeing pictures and hearing the echo on honcast


I heard that too lol.


Big echo xD

[Talesavo]

I'm here on Sunday and the place has good attendance


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtYvJf2Eig

Presumably that was for the finals?

[waRRR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtYvJf2Eig

Presumably that was for the finals?

Rofl, how many people there weren't part of an organization/team and were not waiting for Starcraft to start?

[IPlayLoL]

i saw the walkin ceremony with like 50 ppl welcoming the teams, so i fail to believe that there really was a big crowd at the hon event.

It wasn't that, it was the low audio-cheering that I picked up on, you compare that to an SC2 semi big-play and their cheering was still louder then the "Who wants X team to win?" for HoN.

[Jamiezz]

DHW tons of pictures. NASL which S2 pretty much paid to be a part of or so I hear 0 pictures. Clearly it wasn't note worthy. No need to deny people weren't there... just move on **** happens.