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wulfgar863
11-13-2011, 09:23 PM
Sup bros skynet here. I've been working with some new lego tech and I want you guys to take a look at it.
Here is 2 replays, a win and a loss.
ID : 68521117 win
68587096 loss
Basically instead of rushing insanitarius, I go for whispering helm to portal key. The damage and lifesteal of whispering helm allows me to neutral forever and I get to control minotaurs to stack, protect me when I'm jungling and overall help my team when I'm dead or elsewhere. After about 3-4 minotaurs i can disassemble the whispering to get my helm of will back and create insanitarius. And sell the hungry spirit, or make abyssal whatever I need
Please do at least watch the replay before you bash it.
PrestonLee
11-13-2011, 09:51 PM
ID : 68521117 win
68587096 lossthe first one doesn't even have a lego in it, and the second one you didn't get whispering helm ??? *confused*
edit:
nevermind apparently the first one works now
Disco_Bison
11-13-2011, 09:52 PM
Basically instead of rushing insanitarius
wat.
wulfgar863
11-13-2011, 09:56 PM
yea sorry was a typo on the first match id.
the first one doesn't even have a lego in it, and the second one you didn't get whispering helm ??? *confused*
I disassembled it to make insanitarius.
bubblez_
11-14-2011, 02:39 AM
Insanitarius on lego? What
wulfgar863
11-14-2011, 03:08 AM
Yea bro insanitarius is the business on lego, give it a try.
robbiek1
11-15-2011, 09:47 AM
Insanitarius is a good item on pretty much every STR hero with good early farm.
~Robbie
wulfgar863
12-05-2011, 09:54 AM
On lego more than other str heroes. The charge amplification of str is godly. 14 mins in the game with insanitarius on lego, with max charge you're dealing 550+ phys damage ot a target.Pretty much a rank 1.5 deadwood punch.
lemonface
12-05-2011, 10:31 AM
YES!!! finally someone discovers this aspect of whispring helm.
yes so many times! awesome op.
this is something i used to do with a mate:
he picked maliken, i babysat him with witchslayer. im a former high level sc/sc2 player and my micro is very very solid. he would build his whispering helm asap, control a minotaur and share his controls with me. a witchslayer this early in the game that can control a minotaur is ridiculously strong. at some point i had 2 minos, and him and me completely demolished a 2v4 fight making use of the insanely powerful minos aoe stun.
this aspect of WH is so massively underrated and there is so much potential for mindblowing pimp plays yet to be displayed.
wulfgar863
12-05-2011, 10:38 AM
I do agree Lemon, Dominated minotaurs from whispering helm having unlimited lifespan is so overpowered. Luckily no one does it cause they bad:P
M72TheLaw
12-06-2011, 02:25 PM
At 1300 bracket, yes, I assume they would be too bad to go gank and kill all the stacks and roll the jungle of the lego that they can nearly one shot because he bought a helm of dominator.
wulfgar863
12-06-2011, 02:42 PM
At 1300 bracket, yes, I assume they would be too bad to go gank and kill all the stacks and roll the jungle of the lego that they can nearly one shot because he bought a helm of dominator.
It's not hard to control your own jungle lol
wulfgar863
11-27-2012, 07:50 AM
This is the build I taught Ensoe who taught Bkid/Zfreek
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroesguide_view.php?gid=67784
Ackwell2
11-27-2012, 09:43 AM
This is the build I taught Ensoe who taught Bkid/Zfreek
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroesguide_view.php?gid=67784
I remember bkid blind banning lego against Zfreek and the reason was because he can do this pretty effectively. So this is not only a pub strat.
Other game they didnt ban lego, but they lvl 1 ganked him and kept making his jungling miserable.
wulfgar863
11-27-2012, 09:48 AM
Yea I warned him about not being careful @ the level 1 spawn. Anyone who analyzes replays knows this is where he will be and you should be cautious of enemy team.
Clytemnestra
11-27-2012, 03:55 PM
lol i have to try this once.
_Anatta_
11-27-2012, 05:49 PM
what bracket? i like legio but i'm only around 1550ish and ppl rarely gank jungle at this level, in which case i'm thinking helm probably better?
wulfgar863
12-01-2012, 10:53 AM
Here is an up to date match replay for you guys to watch the jungle pattern and how it plays out.
Match ID : 105789310
Clytemnestra
12-01-2012, 11:46 AM
all you do is farm all game,and if the small camp gets warded you waste 250 gold on the hatchet(not to mention the pull camp).it's funny how you micro the minotaurs though,they save your life once :P
Ackwell2
12-01-2012, 01:45 PM
all you do is farm all game
Yet he was the second most active player in the game by just looking kills and assists. Mk had only few more.
I played today with zfreek and he used that build even tho he kept the whispering helm. He had :steamboots: :whisperinghelm: :insanitarius: :portalkey: and raped everyone :P
105886644 Here is the replay.
I felt I played bad when I watched legos lvl and compared it to mine, but he had just so massive xpm :P I still had a good 570.
I just want say something about dota's drow ranger.
Drow was considered a bad carry until someone went whispering helm on her. She can farm neutral so much earlier, the dominated creep can stack ancient, can help disable, wolf also provide another aura that gives her tons dmg.
If you have the micro, whispering helm is really strong.
_AEnima_
12-01-2012, 05:54 PM
Before anyone gets really confused as to how this could possibly work. These games are .7kd+ no stat publics
Clytemnestra
12-01-2012, 05:55 PM
as an ophelia player(or not) i can say that even creeps commanded by ophelia that have more hp die very fast in teamfights.wh creeps would die even easier,so unless you really take care of them you will kinda waste it(but stacking ancients for yourself is too sexy to miss <3).
Ackwell2
12-01-2012, 07:34 PM
Before anyone gets really confused as to how this could possibly work. These games are .7kd+ no stat publics
Didnt I just post a replay of a 1700 game? This technique is also been used in very high tier games.
Scarth
12-02-2012, 02:19 AM
Why would you sell your hungry spirit instead of building it into an Abyssal Skull?
Clytemnestra
12-02-2012, 02:46 AM
Why would you sell your hungry spirit instead of building it into an Abyssal Skull?
i was thinking to make the helm back for armor,damage and to convert more creeps.
Scarth
12-02-2012, 03:40 AM
OP said he wishes to disassemble into Insanity + 450g (Selling of Spirit).
I would say Abyssal Skull is better. You could go all 3, doesnt Aura Lifesteal + Orb Lifesteal stack?
Ackwell2
12-02-2012, 07:31 AM
OP said he wishes to disassemble into Insanity + 450g (Selling of Spirit).
I would say Abyssal Skull is better. You could go all 3, doesnt Aura Lifesteal + Orb Lifesteal stack?
I dont think you even have to sell the helm. What other orb you really need and in late late game it builds into satanic which boosts your hp a lot and gives you a lot of base damage.
wulfgar863
12-20-2012, 04:38 PM
As for selling hungry spirit it all depends on what I need in the current game, I'll usually sell it once I swap my whispering helm out for insanitarius. 2-3 minotaurs is all I usually need.
If you look up the account SkyneT you can find replays of high MMR Lego play, but it's months even years old, and is banned ( lawl )
I'm going to make a bunch of videos of HoN technology that I have never released just so I can make HoN a decent game competitively.