View Full Version : Gimme one reason not to nerf maliken
Greyskulll
10-21-2009, 05:34 PM
he wins all games he plays.
cant exactly explain why, his huge dmg output in ulti form, his nice silence, his nice escape skill that nearly 3hits all casters on his lvl in earlygame? dont know, just take your reason to nerf.... an and ofc dont forget his imba lifesteal....
but i want to know at least 1 real reason why he shouldnt get nerfed... and "with him i get the most psr" is no reason...
imo he's the new magmus/tempest/scout, every verison had its auto-win-"hero", but they all got nerfed, so why not do the same to mali?
Tsang
10-21-2009, 05:48 PM
He's pretty damn squishy early game. His strength stat gain isn't as high as a pest or pebbles, so if you harrass and keep him down early game, he's pretty meh the rest of the way through. A farmed Maliken is pretty devastating, but no more so than any other character.
DrKeso
10-21-2009, 05:58 PM
I agree that he needs a small nerf... But so does Madman, Puppet and Panda.
In his early game hes quite easy to kill. But once he gets that Insanitarius and some lifesteal he becomes a monster.
He's a very nice hero though, fun to play, great character design, innovative skills...
Kirbynator
10-21-2009, 06:14 PM
lol at putting scout in an auto-win hero list ever in any patch.
way to go losing any credibility
Whitesock
10-21-2009, 06:26 PM
His ult needs a nerf, but other than that he is pretty easy to dominate early game because you can harass him so he uses life steal and then denying him is a piece of cake due to his lack of damage.
Passthechips
10-21-2009, 06:32 PM
Too bad that with Insanitarius and Flame Sword going on Maliken is losing tons of health per second even with Whispering Helm. One well placed stun and Maliken goes down really fast.
Kitad1
10-21-2009, 06:36 PM
Lol, Scout actually loses most games, he just kill steals.
As for Maliken, I don't find him Imba at all
gipp2
10-21-2009, 06:58 PM
the snare on his sword might be a little ridiculous, but hes balanced for the most part
Bobdoyle
10-21-2009, 07:22 PM
He gets weaker lategame hes a mid game hero
Murie
10-21-2009, 07:30 PM
He gets weaker lategame hes a mid game hero
facepalm :|
I have not seen a single good Maliken in 320 games, I'm told he's some kind of carry but I have yet to see it happen. He has a skillset that can be used quite effectively, but apparently its so rare that I don't see it.
Shadowcamsy
10-21-2009, 08:04 PM
Maliken needs a slight change to his attack speed constants and he is fine. That the moment his attack speed bonus scales too much when you activate his ultimate, I'm pretty sure S2 are going to nerf him next patch. I've seen plenty of good and bad Maliken games to know that he is one of the best carry's in the game.
he wins all games he plays.
cant exactly explain why, his huge dmg output in ulti form, his nice silence, his nice escape skill that nearly 3hits all casters on his lvl in earlygame? dont know, just take your reason to nerf.... an and ofc dont forget his imba lifesteal....
but i want to know at least 1 real reason why he shouldnt get nerfed... and "with him i get the most psr" is no reason...
imo he's the new magmus/tempest/scout, every verison had its auto-win-"hero", but they all got nerfed, so why not do the same to mali?
Give you one reason to not nerf Maliken? because you cant, only S2 can do that. lolol
Dudeitzmeh
10-21-2009, 09:12 PM
^That man wins
CHR0N0S
10-21-2009, 09:16 PM
He's getting nerfed. Zeal will give +100 att speed max.
I got this fom the Patch log 1.50 in HON blog.
br0wnie
10-21-2009, 09:21 PM
Give you one reason to not nerf Maliken? because you cant, only S2 can do that. lolol
****, you beat me to it :/
First thing I thought when I read the title, I didn't even bother reading the post.
lol
Kudryavka
10-21-2009, 09:52 PM
lol at putting scout in an auto-win hero list ever in any patch.
way to go losing any credibility
You don't think 6 second AoE silence, permadisarm on their carry, crit that stacks with crit items, near max MS from Vanish, free permanent wards, and an improved %based ulti made him OP when he was first remade? SERIOUSLY? His flurry is still a bit too much, IMO, but he got toned down a LOT from how he was before. He would beat down Pestilences and Madmen with twice as much farm just because they couldn't fight back.
Kietharr
10-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Maliken definitely needs a nerf, look at what QuC did to smf. Ridiculous, two very close games then they pick maliken and destroy them every teamfight.
sneakysob
10-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Warpcleft+ult is pretty crazy.
UltimaXtreme
10-21-2009, 11:25 PM
He's pretty damn squishy early game. His strength stat gain isn't as high as a pest or pebbles, so if you harrass and keep him down early game, he's pretty meh the rest of the way through. A farmed Maliken is pretty devastating, but no more so than any other character.
his lane control ability is amazing early game...
Weishaupt
10-21-2009, 11:39 PM
I don't find him amazing early game. He's not bad, and he can self heal, so he can buy other items. He's what he was designed to be: Flexible and mobile. The ulty needs a nerf, I guess. I've been dominated by him late-game exactly once because of that atk speed issue. Otherwise, I usually gank him quite often early game, especially if he's dumb enough to initiate without mid coming for a gank. Don't run, just stand and fight and you'll probably win. He is not tough early.
Passthechips
10-21-2009, 11:45 PM
I don't find him amazing early game. He's not bad, and he can self heal, so he can buy other items. He's what he was designed to be: Flexible and mobile. The ulty needs a nerf, I guess. I've been dominated by him late-game exactly once because of that atk speed issue. Otherwise, I usually gank him quite often early game, especially if he's dumb enough to initiate without mid coming for a gank. Don't run, just stand and fight and you'll probably win. He is not tough early.
Of course he would dominate you as a carry late game, that is the purpose of being a carry.
The key to defeating Maliken is really to SPREAD OUT and STUN. I can't tell you how many times I have seen two people stand right next to each other while I mow both of them down at the same time.
Volcarr
10-22-2009, 01:40 AM
Of course he would dominate you as a carry late game, that is the purpose of being a carry.
The key to defeating Maliken is really to SPREAD OUT and STUN. I can't tell you how many times I have seen two people stand right next to each other while I mow both of them down at the same time.
everyones calling nerf because what every team does when they see maliken.. is FOCUS AND KILL. probably a bad idea considering that increases his attack speed and damage capability. Try CCing maliken and destroying his support, you'll find he isn't much of a threat...
DaedalusWing
10-22-2009, 02:25 AM
Maliken will go down easy if you get a few stuns off.. He cant life leach if he cant attack.. Save your stuns until he is low life. That is when he will switch to his less damage + life steal mode. Throw your stuns and he won't be able to regen that much.
Colbeagle
10-22-2009, 02:26 AM
Malkien = S2 employee,
Malkien = good hero
Malkien = completely balanced.
Just saying.
King_Fear
10-22-2009, 02:48 AM
This forum is not really appropriate for "zomg nerf X, plz" threads, but I doubt the balance forum would accept this either in it's current format.
Thread closed. Please refer to the balance forum.