Good and bad last hitters

[AdamaA]

So, i have trouble with last hits and denys in general, and i'm realizing how important it is. I noticed with some heroes i have so much easy time than with others:

Easy ones:
Int: Puppet, Demented
Agi: Arach, Valk
Str: Hammerstorm, Kraken

Hard ones:
Int: Nymphora, Blacksmith
Agi: Sand Wraith, Chronos
Str: Jera, Accursed

Any tips based on this? Also, share your own list please!

Keep in mind im talking about lvl 1 lanes, not mid game farming spamin skills.

[Konsume]

Get an hatchet on every melee AS SOON AS YOU CAN!

it will be easier.... on Nymphora.... you last hit using your pods!

[AdamaA]

Get an hatchet on every melee AS SOON AS YOU CAN!

it will be easier.... on Nymphora.... you last hit using your pods!

I'm starting to get hatchet, it helps.

About nymph, i try to place heal pods out of creeps range early game, otherwise the lane would be pushed to their tower for sure. Im i doing it wrong?

[Anvardz]

Nymphora is a babysitter and support, she doesnt need last hit that much. Her role is to help ur late-game carry farm as much as possible.

[Konsume]

well really Nymp doesn't really need any items to be good (aka doesn't need to last hit). She's a supporter so.... you don't really have to get anything besides your boots and than it all comes to what you team really needs.

but.... nutting's wrong to push the lane a bit in order to score several last hit (get all mobs low health and than us pod) and heal your lane partner at the same time.

Nymp should always baby sit the carry. So basicaly your lane job is to harass ennemies and get few last hits....

[xCTBxMav]

About nymph, i try to place heal pods out of creeps range early game, otherwise the lane would be pushed to their tower for sure. Im i doing it wrong?

Nymph is an amazing pusher. You shouldnt be worried about pushing to their tower when you can easily take it. Nymph is my fav hero and if I dont have a tower pushed 8 minutes into the game, I consider myself to be failing.

[JeffEmming]

Jeraziah is an amazing last-hitter.

[AdamaA]

Jeraziah is an amazing last-hitter.

How? I realize that if get the melee skill at lvl1-2 its easier, but again im pushin the lane besides giving up shield early on. I tried sometimes geting last hits + damaging enemies with a heal placed on a creep, but i run out of mana fast without ring doing that!

I really enjoy playing jera but i feel im hurting my team by picking him because my lame creep farming. Please elaborate. Gonna read a jera guide too! need to solve this one.

Edit: Just readed Righteous Strike has preference over shield in normal builds. I was just doing it wrong, good.

[ElementUser]

Hard ones:
Int: Nymphora, Blacksmith
Agi: Sand Wraith, Chronos
Str: Jera, Accursed

Those are all easy. -.-
Chronos has a slightly higher damage point though, so he's slightly hard to last-hit with compared to other melee heroes.

For those who don't know, damage point = the time it takes for his attack to actually damage the target.

[glutamate]

I'd put Keeper in the easy camp.

[Cash]

So, i have trouble with last hits and denys in general, and i'm realizing how important it is. I noticed with some heroes i have so much easy time than with others:

Easy ones:
Int: Puppet, Demented
Agi: Arach, Valk
Str: Hammerstorm, Kraken

Hard ones:
Int: Nymphora, Blacksmith
Agi: Sand Wraith, Chronos
Str: Jera, Accursed

Any tips based on this? Also, share your own list please!

Keep in mind im talking about lvl 1 lanes, not mid game farming spamin skills.


The ones you put under easy are indeed easy except for valk.
She has around 45 base damage and therefor is a pretty crappy lasthitter.
Also a reason why she shouldnt solo.

Nymph doesnt need to lasthit that well, she got a spammable aoe nuke, blacksmith has high base damage and an amazing attack animation.
Wraith is pretty much avg, chronos has extremely high base damage and a good animation. Jera is like the best lasthitter in the game and accursed base damage is really good aswell.

4/6 of your hard ones are like top 10 lasthitters. You were smoking what?

[Tyrando]

Bloodhunter didnt get a mention? have you seen his speed? thats whack, probably the easiest for natural last hitting.

Overall i'd say KotF though, when you hit for 2x the amount any other hero does allyourlasthitsarebelongtome.

[LightRain]

KotF is the easiest for me obviously, he and Jere both rape other melees when it comes to last hitting. Don't run melee only lanes! For int, does anyone else find Defiler easy?
Last hitting is hard with TB, but you can just whack the other guy over the head with thunderbolts until it becomes single player mode :)

[Utred]

Sand wraith has such a fast attack animation, it makes last hitting pretty easy.
Thunderbringer, voodoo, polywog, glacius, hellbringer and tempest are the worst imo. They all have slow animations.
Andromeda, shaman, puppet, succubus and most agi heroes have very good animations. But most melees are good.

[jay`t]

bloodhunter in super awesome last hit, since logger axe is an important item for him anyway

wretched hag for sucks a fat dick, since she has pitiful damage, and her animation is whack

zeus has a pretty awful animation now too :(

maliken can go in the so-good-at-last-hitting,-it's-cheating camp i think with his toggle

[WalrusTusK]

Thunderbringer, Pollywog, and Hellbringer are all awful for me. Massive arcs on their attacks.

[jay`t]

at least thunderbringers attack has a great sound

[Fiesta]

Pebbles is by far the easiest to last hit with, once you get the feel of his animation.

And I'd say that demented is one of the harder last-hitters, because his base is so spread out (34-61, I believe)

[Tripwyr]

Thunderbringer, Pollywog, and Hellbringer are all awful for me. Massive arcs on their attacks.

Arcs have no effect on the travel time of the projectile. You could set the arc to 9001 and it would get there at the same time as an arc of 0. (Arc is referred to as gravity in the hero files)

For me, Pestilence is probably the easiest hero to last hit with in the game.

[Clavain]

I have a very easy time last hitting with Plauge.

In general, it helps to get as much +stat items as possible when starting out. +5 or +6 dmg to start out can net you a few extra last hits/denys.

[dilatedmind]

why has no one said soul reaper?

[Extreme_Cake]

TB and Soul Reaper are both terrible. Polly is probably in the middle. Pharaoh is easy.

[WalrusTusK]

Arcs have no effect on the travel time of the projectile. You could set the arc to 9001 and it would get there at the same time as an arc of 0. (Arc is referred to as gravity in the hero files)

For me, Pestilence is probably the easiest hero to last hit with in the game.

Really? All the same, the projectiles aren't that fast, their animations aren't great, and they're pretty weak.

[Tsang]

I think Maliken's attack animation is pretty hard to last hit with. You have to time it differently than most other characters because he has a lag time before he actually hits. This is offset by the self buff to the sword, but still, there have been plenty of times when I would go in for the last hit but end up staring at nothing because IMMA CHARGIN MY LAZER!

[VyyyE]

TB and Soul Reaper are both terrible. Polly is probably in the middle. Pharaoh is easy.
TB is wonderful. Easy to cancel hits before actually throwing the.. whatever, right click + H + right click + H etc. until you can get a last hit/deny.

[Xinoxlx]

I think Maliken's attack animation is pretty hard to last hit with. You have to time it differently than most other characters because he has a lag time before he actually hits. This is offset by the self buff to the sword, but still, there have been plenty of times when I would go in for the last hit but end up staring at nothing because IMMA CHARGIN MY LAZER!

For me it's the opposite, I find him awesome cause his attack is so fast and sword of the damned is awesome for creep killing.

[ForTheSwarm]

Chronos is easy as hell for last-hitting.

[Tripwyr]

TB and Soul Reaper are both terrible. Polly is probably in the middle. Pharaoh is easy.

I consider Soul Reaper very easy to last hit with. Maybe it's because I've played him more than most other heroes though.

[Fazzmania]

Easy: Blacksmith, Demented, Kraken

Hard: Thunderbringer, Glacius, Electrician,

[Conceptor]

Arcs have no effect on the travel time of the projectile. You could set the arc to 9001 and it would get there at the same time as an arc of 0. (Arc is referred to as gravity in the hero files)

For me, Pestilence is probably the easiest hero to last hit with in the game.


I have to agree with you. I think I've played all the characters enough to have a good idea of their attack animation for last hits.. though ranged characters are a bit tougher. If I had to say, plague.

[AdamaA]

It's nice to see some of my hards ones are considered easy by others. That means i'm doing it wrong and can be improved/solved. I'm also surprised that many of you consider agi melees as good last hitters, when i really struggle last hitting with any melee. In my experience i have easier times with the worst range than with the best melee. I'm guessing it's because 80% of the times im picking ranged heroes.

Thanks for the feedback! Keep it coming, it's usefull.

[Hidden]

Pebbles is by far the easiest to last hit with, once you get the feel of his animation.

And I'd say that demented is one of the harder last-hitters, because his base is so spread out (34-61, I believe)

Demented has an awesome attack animation and missile speed as well as high average base damage though, I find it really easy to lasthit with him. And if you fail at it, you can still onehit whole creepwaves with his chain heal.

[ArnoldRimmer]

I really disagree with blacksmith, his attack animation is really easy once you get used to it. The damage procs really fast and the range is greater than most melee.