How does reflect damage works on SW and barbed armor

[Germeson]

So my question is how does reflect damage works on Sand Wraith and if hero wears "barbed armor" and used it.

For example , i am a legionnaire , and i got 25 armor wooo ,it gives me 65% damage reduction , i've used barbed armor , and for example magebane hits me for 249-250 damage.

So what damage will be reflected?

a)250-65%= 87,5 damage
b)All 250 damage?

Same thing with sand wraith.

[MyLife]

the real answer is neither. Basically it returns the 250 damage that he deals and then reduces it based on his armor. So if he dealt 250dmg and he had 50% reduction then it would do 125 to him. Get it?

[ILiekTurtles]

With Sand Wraith, I believe that the math on it is (x-(y)=z) (x*.2)=y
So, "x" the damage, is lets say 250. (250-(250*.2)=damage taken. So 250-50=damage. In the end, with no armor factored in for SW, you take 200 damage and reflect 50

[Germeson]

but its obviously not , sand wraith reflect much more and still hes not taking 200 damage dude =\

[Shadowcamsy]

If sand wraith has barbed armor, and Magebane is attacking him with 250 damage, sand wraiths armor reduces damage by 30% and the enemies reduces damage by 40%, here is what will happen:
Enemy takes 60% of 250 physical damage = 150.
Enemy takes 20% of (70% of 250) pure damage = 35.
Enemy takes 20% of (80% of 64) pure damage = 10.24
Total damage enemy takes: 195.24 per attack
You take 80% of (70% of 250) physical damage = 140
also 80% of (80% of 64) pure damage from mana burn = 40.96
Total damage you take: 180.96 per attack

As you can see it still hurts like hell

[Tripwyr]

Barbed armor is pure damage. The damage taken is based on what the hero with barbed armor takes, and not the hero attacking. For example:

Legionnaire has 68 armor or approx. 80% damage reduction. Hammerstorm attacks Legionnaire for 100 damage. Legionnaire activates barbed armor.

Legionnaire takes 20% of 100 physical damage, or 20 damage.
Hammerstorm takes 20 pure damage.

Now suddenly Puppet master runs in with Swarm on him, giving him 0 armor or 0% damage reduction. Hammerstorm switches and attacks him instead. Puppet activates barbed armor.

Puppet master takes 100% of 100 physical damage, or 100 damage.
Hammerstorm takes 100 pure damage.

Test and confirmed as of posting.

[Trysaeder]

What's with all the wrongness in this thread?

Mechfag confirming Tripwyr.