View Full Version : What are the top 5 heroes to get the restoration stone for?
Who would I be buying the restoration stone for...KOTF? I wasn't sure if that was a bad item altogether or not. Thanks.
Heridshire
10-19-2009, 05:58 PM
I'd say Restoration Stone is a luxury item. It will most likely only help when the match drags to more than 50 minutes, and even so, most heroes would benefit more from other item that this.
There are exceptions, ofc. KotF would be one. The other would be Hellbringer. The third would be Tempest, though its a matter of opinion. Some would say that a Totem of Kuldra or Frostplate Armor are better items, and I wouldn't disagree.
I'd say never, ever, buy RS to Thunderbringer. Please.
I'd say Restoration Stone is a luxury item. It will most likely only help when the match drags to more than 50 minutes, and even so, most heroes would benefit more from other item that this.
There are exceptions, ofc. KotF would be one. The other would be Hellbringer. The third would be Tempest, though its a matter of opinion. Some would say that a Totem of Kuldra or Frostplate Armor are better items, and I wouldn't disagree.
I'd say never, ever, buy RS to Thunderbringer. Please.
what about plague rider? or does that fall into the TB category?
Coldd
10-19-2009, 06:08 PM
that'd probably be a huge waste of money on plague, but another one that i would highly consider (and i've only been able to get this on him once, but it got me a quad kill) is getting resto stone on behemoth.
shavi1
10-19-2009, 06:09 PM
what about plague rider? or does that fall into the TB category?
RS would be interesting on Plague but hardly a core item, Kuldra, Meka (Cannot think of the hon name for the life of me, the healing support item), and Frostfield are all way way better.
Heridshire
10-19-2009, 06:14 PM
By Meka he means Astrolabe. Plague Ride goes into the same category as TB. Go for either SotM or Kuldra, but not RS.
Behemoth with RS is amazing. But its a luxury item, by the time you get it you won.
DenyTheTruth
10-19-2009, 06:18 PM
Always get resto on Hellbringer if you can farm it. Always. Two malphas is win.
IPlayForKeep
10-19-2009, 06:24 PM
List of top 5 in best order:
1. Hellbringer
2. Keeper of the Forest
3. Plague Rider
4. Thunderbringer
5. Behemoth
that is just my opinion though.
Heridshire
10-19-2009, 06:26 PM
The good about two Malphas is that one Nullfire isn't enough. And that's IMBA.
Omg, TB no. nooooooooooo
Kuldra is way better
ok, its a matter of opinions, and I always think I'm right unless you can convince me the other way so... let's not argue =/
Drasha
10-19-2009, 06:34 PM
There are only two heroes its core on
Keeper of the Forest and Hellbringer
Other heros its luxury and in most cases there are much better items for the hero.
IPlayForKeep
10-19-2009, 06:37 PM
I never said my list was core, only 5 heroes it can be used on effectively, of course kuldra is better on TB
Obi2k4
10-19-2009, 06:39 PM
There are only two heroes its core on
Keeper of the Forest and Hellbringer
Other heros its luxury and in most cases there are much better items for the hero.
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noodle0117
10-19-2009, 07:04 PM
how bout tempest and pollywog?
a full 8 sec disable with tempest is guaranteed genocide if u got good allies to support as well.
double wards with pollywog can break down rax in record time.
JeLuLa
10-19-2009, 07:08 PM
how bout tempest and pollywog?
a full 8 sec disable with tempest is guaranteed genocide if u got good allies to support as well.
double wards with pollywog can break down rax in record time.
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Tyrando
10-19-2009, 07:21 PM
Core, KotF/Hellbringer.
Top 5, hmm not regarding the above 2.
Tempest
Behemoth
Plague Rider
Thunderbringer
Jeraziah for the pure lolz.
Delcoa
10-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Top 5 IMO
Tempest
Pollywog
Plague Rider (I got a quad kill because of it once so yeah... It's up there for me)
Actually, the next two are only guesses because I'm not too fond of the resoration stone personally.
Pyromancer
Thunderbringer
Shadowcamsy
10-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Hellbringer for sure, pollywog after sotm, kotf after a mana boosting item, like stormspirit, behe after portal key + ff plate, Tempest after key and s-head.
Drasha
10-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Core, KotF/Hellbringer.
Top 5, hmm not regarding the above 2.
Tempest
Behemoth
Plague Rider
Thunderbringer
Jeraziah for the pure lolz.
Fun heroes ignoring the core ones
Tempest
Behemoth
Plague Rider
Chronos
Kraken
Pollywog
Restoration Stone on Thunderbringer is just bad :(
Fu__plate
10-19-2009, 10:39 PM
By Meka he means Astrolabe. Plague Ride goes into the same category as TB. Go for either SotM or Kuldra, but not RS.
Behemoth with RS is amazing. But its a luxury item, by the time you get it you won.
I thought the first ulti would kill all the creeps, so by the second you'd be doing much less damage. Although I guess it restores your stuns as well, so you could do 2x ulti with 2 lots of stuns.
ForTheSwarm
10-19-2009, 10:47 PM
From best to worst:
Tempest- 8 second disable = gg
Keeper of the Forest- same reasoning as Tempest, but Kotf might not have the mana to support this
Hellbringer- two malphi = win
Pollywog- double wards = massive damage
Behemoth- double ult = massive damage, but after the first ult kills creeps, it's not as effective
Chronos- double ult = up to 10 seconds of mass disable
Pyromancer- double ult = dead hero
Thunderbringer- double ult: just in case the first one didn't finish the guy off
sam_jackson
10-19-2009, 10:51 PM
TB doesn't have enough mana to use resto effectively.
Heridshire
10-19-2009, 11:31 PM
Behemoth's ult ressonate with the corpses nearby. So after you kill all of them with the first, the second will still benefit from the corpses there. As long as they don't disappear.
Oh, that's how it worked at DotA. I assume it's the same here, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Or maybe I'll just test it.
Heliotic
10-19-2009, 11:36 PM
It's just not possible to farm on tempest. You need portal key, BKB, boots, and some HP.
Exactly where do you get the money for that? You're not carry tempest.
Resto stone is hopeless on heros with channeling ults for this reason.
Heridshire
10-19-2009, 11:39 PM
Impossible is nothing.
Ok, @topic: That's why to Tempest RS is a luxury item. If you are able to farm it, the game will already be over. But Tempest usually has an easy time farming due to his elementals.
Distort3d
10-19-2009, 11:46 PM
List of top 5 in best order:
1. Hellbringer
2. Keeper of the Forest
3. Plague Rider
4. Thunderbringer
5. Behemoth
that is just my opinion though.
pollywog too. 2 sets wards push like crazy.
xanderK
10-20-2009, 01:05 AM
RS is a MUST on Tempest for me. I almost never ult unless it's a team gank, which means they probably won't have the time to interrupt my spell, so I save Shrunken Head for after RS. Double Tempest ult = dead ANYTHING. Nothing survives a double ult in a team gank.
Please don't ever get RS on Plague Rider. Biggest waste of money ever. Get a SoTM for the extra bounce and damage and then get Kuldra or something. His ult is on a 30 second cooldown at level 4. Why in the world would you need two that quickly?
IMO the best heroes for RS are: Hellbringer, Tempest, KoTF
IBLAMEVODKA
10-20-2009, 02:55 AM
I like to get RS on wretched hag (QoP). Staff and RS works pretty well if your team is in need of Aoe. It can wreck in team fights in combination with a good initiator such as krakken or tempest. It really depends on the game though as there are many viable builds for hag
EpiX_Whiner
10-20-2009, 03:23 AM
My list would be like this:
1. Hellbringer (Core item) 2x Huge mother****er Demons? yea please!
2. KOTF (Also core item, but depends on your playstyle with him) 10 sec disable is godlike!
3. Tempset (luxury item) If they didn't die after first ulti, then the next one should get them
4. Pollywog (luxury item) 2x ulti with this guy rapes buldings in mini seconds
5. Behemoth (luxury item) Same as Tempset
Genesyx
10-20-2009, 04:32 AM
TB getting RS (as a luxury of course) is not that bad =/
when i'm able to farm it, i usually use 1 ulti to initiate (check ppl's location ) and another time to kill (no not ks , but for killing heroes that are SURE to get away )
DemonSouL
10-20-2009, 04:54 AM
Hellbringer, Tempest, KoTF are pretty much the 3 heroes that are core on. Tempest is the one that may have a hard time farming it as you need key, and bkb + mana pool (costs something like 1200 mana for double ulti). But I've been able to farm it. When games are at a stalemate up to the 50-60 minute mark, tempest should be able to have boots, restoration, portal key, and shrunken. pollywog is also a pretty nice hero to get it on, but I've seen the wards bug up or something due to hold position maybe? where they don't attack... so it's not always a secure investment. Almost not other heroes besides these 4 are able to farm enough to get them and have it being worth that money.
Anyone try a restoration on sand wraith yet? I'm sure it's a complete waste of money, but would it actually spawn 2 images attacking each hero?
Genesyx
10-20-2009, 05:21 AM
i think it jz refreshes the ulti duration (like the ulti of defiler)
My favorite is to get it on Soulstealer (although it's really impractical). I usually assassin shroud in the middle of them all then double ult and it usually takes their whole team down to about 1/3 life or less. But yeah, you probably shouldn't get RS on Soulstealer in a higher ranked match :-x
Hellbringer, Tempest, KoTF are pretty much the 3 heroes that are core on. Tempest is the one that may have a hard time farming it as you need key, and bkb + mana pool (costs something like 1200 mana for double ulti). But I've been able to farm it. When games are at a stalemate up to the 50-60 minute mark, tempest should be able to have boots, restoration, portal key, and shrunken. pollywog is also a pretty nice hero to get it on, but I've seen the wards bug up or something due to hold position maybe? where they don't attack... so it's not always a secure investment. Almost not other heroes besides these 4 are able to farm enough to get them and have it being worth that money.
Anyone try a restoration on sand wraith yet? I'm sure it's a complete waste of money, but would it actually spawn 2 images attacking each hero?
That would be funny if you got 2 images ...imagine a team battle with 10 images +2 more from geo...
mikros
10-20-2009, 01:16 PM
KotF - Hellbringer - Pollywog - Tempest - Jeraziah.
First four ones should be obvious, last one vs. Physical DMG Team.
Tupimus
10-20-2009, 01:46 PM
Behemoth's ult ressonate with the corpses nearby. So after you kill all of them with the first, the second will still benefit from the corpses there. As long as they don't disappear.
Oh, that's how it worked at DotA. I assume it's the same here, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Or maybe I'll just test it.
The corpse-echoes only deal half the damage that echoes from still living things do. Was changed a while ago.
jay`t
10-20-2009, 01:47 PM
resto on hag would be like impossible
her ult takes sooooo much mana :(
Heridshire
10-20-2009, 05:42 PM
U sure about that Tupimus? I was too lazy to search. Anyways, thanks.
Volshok
10-20-2009, 06:51 PM
God this makes me want to link the Skeleton King Guide with Restoration Stone Baller Tier. Too bad I can't find it =/
U sure about that Tupimus? I was too lazy to search. Anyways, thanks.
And half damage to corpses is correct.
MrCanada
10-20-2009, 09:33 PM
How have you all overlooked
SWIIIIIFFFTTTBLAAAADDE !!!! .... You can decimate an entire team
one of his main problems is mana so restoration stone actually helps him sort of XD
`aNarchy
10-20-2009, 09:40 PM
Resto Stone on Behemoth is pretty useless imo... You'd better have A LOT of mana or a stupid enemy team that ALWAYS clusters together. Far more useful to get more disables. For example I usually take Boots/Mana Battery/Portal Key/Frostfield/Behemoth's Heart/Totem/upgrade to Post Haste if possible.
Heart and Totem are interchangeable depending on the game, and your role on the team.
DImported
10-21-2009, 08:22 AM
Keeper of the Forest and Hellbringer are the two heroes that require it as a core.
Almost every other hero that gets it is either for luxury or for the lulz. As mentioned, Pollywog, Tempest and Behemoth are also very good with it although Behemoth is probably not going to have enough mana to pull off a completely refreshed combo.
Hellbringer
Tempest
Pollywog
KotF
Thats about it, I wouldnt get it on any other hero.
Extreme_Cake
10-21-2009, 12:29 PM
I really don't get the Thunderbringer hate. A double TB ult is an insane way to initiate a teamfight.
`Cherry`
10-21-2009, 02:00 PM
Tempest
Behemoth
Plague Rider
Keeper Of The Forest
Hellbringer
there's a few other heroes that could benefit from it.. but mostly only as one of their last items and it would be for the "lols"
OneBadMuda
11-14-2010, 08:29 PM
You are overlooking gauntlet. Doubling up his ult is pretty game changing.
noobscoutKS
11-14-2010, 08:36 PM
lol'd ^
also I total remember reading this thread a year ago
JarJar
11-14-2010, 08:37 PM
:behe::poll::temp:
Tripwyr
11-14-2010, 08:52 PM
Do not bump year old threads.