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Gekikara
09-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Anyone besides me finding this skill extremely inconsistent?

Specifically i'm referring to the part that transfers debuffs and steals buffs.

Just to name a few, how come it doesnt steal:-

Cthulhuphant's Hook em buff?
Gauntlet's Infernal Instability
Aluna's Deja Vu and Emerald Red
Amun ra's ashes to ashes buff (magic dmg AOE and attack speed to himself)
Drunken Master's Drink buff
Accursed's Flame Consumption
Maliken's Possession (armor buff)
Nomad's Sandstorm buff
Dampeer's Essences

And for the offensive transfer, how come it doesnt transfer:-

Flux's Release (first skill) debuff
Midas' Regeants debuff (secondary debuffs the ulti places with use of each skill)
Silhouette's Relentless Salvo debuff
Arachna's pet spider debuff (ultimate) - spider sting
Empath's Essence Link
Bloodhunter's Hemorrhage
Rhapsody's Staccato debuff (first skill)


The list goes on and on, i'm just naming a few of the inconsistencies. So are they working as intended? Buggy? or just poor design/coding of the skill?

BTW, the above list consists of both superior magic and normal magic spells in both "buff steal" and "debuff transfer". So the superior magic argument is rendered invalid.



Now stealing some of those buffs above may not benefit him directly, but what i'm trying to get at is that the buffs should get transferred anyway to deprive the enemy target of the benefits from the buffs. And again transferring certain debuffs such as staccato might not directly harm the enemy, but it does rid parasite of these debuffs.

And again there are the glaringly obvious ones such as Flux's Release skill slowing enemies not being transferable atm.


So my question is, why are there such huge inconsistencies in which buffs are stolen and which debuffs are transferred?



edit: btw i dont know if this is the right thread to post this. So mods feel free to move to the appropriate part of the forums that's not obscure, if necessary.

MacroHard
09-28-2011, 03:24 PM
Working as intended. A lot of the abilities you listed are not buffs/debuffs at all and rather passives (Ashes to Ashes) or states (Possession). Others (like Essence Link) are targetted abilities. The buffs that you have listed, while not necessarily superior magic, are designed so that they cannot be purged/removed (Hook 'Em, Hemorrhage).

If the "buff" has a blue border it cannot be stolen.
If the "debuff" has a blue border it cannot be transferred.

Basically, if something cannot be purged off it cannot be tranferred by Parasite ultimate. This is built into the design as a means of balancing. Remember to look for the blue borders on your status bar.

SupahNoob
09-28-2011, 03:50 PM
I was sad to learn that Hook 'Em was not Huggable. :')

Woulda been so cool to see Parasite running his ass around with a huge Jera Shield.

MacroHard
09-28-2011, 03:54 PM
Face Hug can steal Jeraziah Shield (and/or ultimate)

IPlayLoL
09-28-2011, 05:48 PM
Working as intended. A lot of the abilities you listed are not buffs/debuffs at all and rather passives (Ashes to Ashes) or states (Possession). Others (like Essence Link) are targetted abilities. The buffs that you have listed, while not necessarily superior magic, are designed so that they cannot be purged/removed (Hook 'Em, Hemorrhage).

If the "buff" has a blue border it cannot be stolen.
If the "debuff" has a blue border it cannot be transferred.

Basically, if something cannot be purged off it cannot be tranferred by Parasite ultimate. This is built into the design as a means of balancing. Remember to look for the blue borders on your status bar.

TDL buffs can be stolen? O.o

MacroHard
09-28-2011, 06:04 PM
statement redacted

monkoftime
09-28-2011, 06:49 PM
glacius's freeze can be transferred, makes for some laughs.

Gekikara
09-28-2011, 09:41 PM
ooo cool thanks for the info.

still i dont see why stuff like flux's release and rhapsody's staccato should be unpurgable rofl

MacroHard
09-28-2011, 10:08 PM
Even if Rhapsody gets silenced she can continue do trigger the additional staccato hits.