The incredible backwards moving thread

[Naib]

bump!

[Fetyukov]

Well I think the poster below made some decent points on the issue of the legitimacy of the OP's opinion (regarding the underpowered nature of many heroes), I will not change my opinion.

Also, please stop derailing these threads with HoN vs LoL comparisons.


:succ:

agree completely.

hope i'm doing this right :\

[Broodje]

This thread is diamonds already

Skaut codex needs to be nerfed asap, way too OP, he can farm it within 10 minutes in a good game.

The LoL lookalike of skaut is in my opinion way better then HoN's I'm really feeling like S2 is starting to ge behind.

Also I gotta agree with coolcollo on his point towards women.

[MichaelBurge]

That was a really bad comparison - it's like saying "DotA is like vim - short and to the point; HoN is like emacs - customizable with lots of features on its engine, you can always learn more about it; LoL is like pico - easy to get into, but it doesn't go anywhere and you always feel like you're limiting yourself with it".

Or, "HoN is like Canada, DotA like the US, and LoL like Brazil". Useless metaphors and I can't say I agree with you throwing them out there like that.



It's the whole reason I got my Psychology degree bro, women are so vulnerable if you know how to play them just right.

There's just no love... :3

:succ:

[Octavia]

Cannot believe you would say something like that. I'm at a loss for words to describe how disgusted I am right now.

[Gangstar]

I eat ponies

[YawningAngel]

What kind of sick bastard would ever eat a pony?

[LonelyQueen]

well they are cute
they might taste cute :arma:

[SpaceSavage]

I have heared from a source somewhere on the internet ponies taste nice.

[Hax]

Can anybody tell me how an internet pony tastes? :scou:

[YawningAngel]

So in summary Fetyukov, you're immovable on the point that, given the current hero release schedule, there's no point revisiting older heroes that have fallen by the wayside due to their inherently simplistic skillsets?

P.S. can we move the discussion away from ponies please?

[MichaelBurge]

What exactly do ponies have to do with HoN again? And for that matter, what exactly does HoN have to do with OT again? :blac:


The hero releases are a scam on S2's part to get more money. They make the heroes gimmicky because simple heroes don't sell - why would you buy a simple hero like Andromeda when you could buy a new gimmicky hero that takes "skill" to learn how to play?

I think we'd need more data on how EA sells in comparison to alternate avatars in order to conclude that. If a 5th Flint Beastwood skin sells better than a new hero, I don't think your argument stands up. :fors:

[Thear22]

The hero releases are a scam on S2's part to get more money. They make the heroes gimmicky because simple heroes don't sell - why would you buy a simple hero like Andromeda when you could buy a new gimmicky hero that takes "skill" to learn how to play?

HoN went F2P way to late so now they have to scam us for $$$

[LonelyQueen]

i know right!

[Hax]

Bieber is the man!

[Fetyukov]

The hero releases are a scam on S2's part to get more money. They make the heroes gimmicky because simple heroes don't sell - why would you buy a simple hero like Andromeda when you could buy a new gimmicky hero that takes "skill" to learn how to play?

All I'm saying is that $2 wants money. Clearly the old shop wasn't providing what was deemed necessary, and this "Early Access" garbage is what we're going to have to live with. If people were willing to spend more money on skins and the sort maybe we wouldn't have these sorts of problems eh?

Although there is one benefit to EA that YA pointed out




But it's no fair that they can pick all these fun new heroes and stomp all over
42% win? I love it when my enemies pick :monk:

[Coolcollo]

It's the whole reason I got my Psychology degree bro, women are so vulnerable if you know how to play them just right.

[LonelyQueen]

is it one of the reasons that got ur physchology degree is because Women are manipulated easly?

[YawningAngel]

But it's no fair that they can pick all these fun new heroes and stomp all over
42% win? I love it when my enemies pick :monk:

[Ouker]

But it's no fair that they can pick all these fun new heroes and stomp all over

Sorry about that :monk:

[LonelyQueen]

But it's no fair that they can pick all these fun new heroes and stomp all over

[Broodje]

Seriously... Stop insulting MichaelBurge, what has he ever done to you? His mother has nothing to do with this thread...

Also coolcollo, I love you too!

[LonelyQueen]

Burge is very noob and idiot his mother do stupid threads


this is a :fayd: thing to say

[Ninja_Style]

I couldn't have said it any better myself. Finally someone who gets it!

[Gangstar]

ITT: cool people

[Kild]

HoN is terrible for your health and anyone who supports it with EA deserves to have their internet license revoked.

[Ninja_Style]

Seriously guys, next time I see a post by Kild, I am gonna flip out and cuddle someone!

[YawningAngel]

That was a great pony montage that just got posted! +1

[Broodje]

LOL, I JUST FOUND THIS ON YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3gqG_aGECw


One more retarded post like that and I'm gonna banish you to GD

Rofl Blueflash is gonna get it lulz <3. Ban him pl0x

[Ninja_Style]

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/60953-Shadow%20of%20Death/953/98/0132.jpg

[Ouker]

Plz don't do it D: There's a thread for it already.

Altho I wouldn't mind really.

[Octavia]

I guess I have to eat my metaphorical hat now...

[OhComely]

If somebody posts a pony montage, I'm out.

[Yukari]

Did not expect that; but it's fappable

[xXSheperdXx]

Aww what a cute love confession that was Burge, hope she says yes !

[Ninja_Style]

This is Michael Burge speaking. I hacked ninjas account because I want to ask Ms Pudding to have my babies and I am very shy.

Again, this is not Ninja_Style being madly in love with Pudding. It's Burge, ok? BELIEVE IT!

[Coolcollo]

I can't believe that Ninja_Style has been sounding like Naruto

Originally Posted by Ninja_Style
Now this is not Michael Burge speaking. As Ninja_Style I find that Naruto has been my idol, my Malcolm X, my MichaelBurge. BELIEVE IT.

Your have quite the Ninja Style there Ninja_Style. I almost BELIEVE IT.

[Ouker]

Holy ****, I didn't know Michael Burge could hack!
That or Ninja is still trolling us.

[xXSheperdXx]

Nice bumping skills right there coolcollo

[LonelyQueen]

i love u too babe! <3

[SpaceSavage]

I love LonelyQueen

[LonelyQueen]

i wish SpaceSavage would say 'I love LonelyQueen'

[Naib]

why is lonelyqueen so unloved? we all need love, but who would would make lonelyqueen happy

[LonelyQueen]

Im alone, No one will ever love me

[YawningAngel]

I wonder who the loneliest person in OT is.

[Ouker]

Wow, I thought this thread died ages ago..

[Broodje]

I love you too Ouker! But I wont marry you tho.

[Coolcollo]

Never gonna let you down

Never gonna run around and desert you

[LonelyQueen]

Never gonna say good bye!

[YawningAngel]

I bet 9001$ that the next poster is going to try and post the lyrics of "Never Gonna Give You Up" but **** it up and post them out of order.

[LonelyQueen]

why u hate me so much :(

[Coolcollo]

Never gonna give you up

Never gonna let you down

[Coolcollo]

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand


Never gonna give you up

[Coolcollo]

A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy


I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

[Coolcollo]

We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I


A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy

[Coolcollo]

We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I

[LonelyQueen]

Ban for spamming if someone spammed :<

[Ouker]

Inb4 someone rickrolls this thread after that link. WOULD LOVE IF BROODJE DID IT <3

[OhComely]

Why would you confess this on HoN's off-topic forum coolcollo?

[YawningAngel]

Wow coolcollo, I'd never have guessed that you liked being fisted by a furious moroccan wearing rubber gloves.

[Broodje]

Guys.... I have to announce my love to something specifics... As you all already know, I love guys, but recently, my love has taken a different path. North african guys are pretty dominating Africa atm and already spreading through Europe. I want to take a part of this so I tried to hook up with a moroccan guy. He was visiting US for 2 weeks and wanted to experience what we all Amerifags do lately. Some of you may call it fisting, but I rather call it anal frustration. So I hooked up with this guy and gave him some rubber gloves. I said it was an US tradition to do this to all new people in here. So I told him to just shove his hand with the rubber glove into my butthole. He still didn't like this idea, so I basically forced him to do it. He was pretty furious, but he still managed to crack in and bust my arse open. This obviously resulted into me screaming out loud and the moroccan guy to push on harder. The moroccan guy finally took his hand out, but he still insisted on going through, but I just couldn't take it anymore, so I begged him to stop. Now that that is over, I like to announce that I'm still open to any guys that are into this kinky stuff, at first it's really hard, but after a while you get used to it and it just feels better then anything you could ever imagine. So if there are any moroccan or at least North african guys around here that read my post, please PM me and we could arrange a date, I could even pay your ticket to fly over here.

Love coolcollo

You are just sick man...

[Naib]

dear ****ing god! children visit this site!

[Broodje]

Ok I'll add spoiler, children don't know how to open those.

[Thear22]

Coolcollo that is just sick......

[YawningAngel]

I really hope Broodje will include a spoiler tag if he reposts that disgusting revelation from coolcollo.

[MacroHard]

Wow cc. Just wow. RiceBunny makes an innocent comment about living in Africa and that's your response?


Originally Posted by MichaelBurge
Nice analysis on mana efficiency for Thunderbringer. Are you an accountant?

I am an Engineer.

[LonelyQueen]

Ugh...
Why coolcollo
WHY!!


Also I agree to the person abovemeans below

[Yukari]

If you are really that sick and twisted, then you should keep those thoughts to yourself

[TheJoo]

I like to beat up little children with a hammer and think i'm Mario.

[MichaelBurge]

Sometimes I think that Asians really might have souls. I know these are deviant thoughts, but sometimes I look at them and really think they might be people as opposed to some lower lifeform breathing *my* air. :corr:

Is it really sick and twisted to consider them as equals? :arac:


[...] And so we conclude that the optimal mana strategy for Thunderbringer is to skip Q and W, maxing E and getting Spellshards/Harkon's.

Nice analysis on mana efficiency for Thunderbringer. Are you an accountant?

[Yukari]

inb4racistremark

[LonelyQueen]

lolwut?

[Ninja_Style]

So I got this idea right here: How about a thread moving backwards? Wouldn't that be kinda clever?

[Ouker]

coolcollo just blew my mind.

[LonelyQueen]

Collo, ur not cool anymore...

[Coolcollo]

Abortion should be legal until children are at least 13 years old.

][/spoiler]

I ****ing hate you all unless I get a minor totem for logical continuity

[Coolcollo]

I finally saved enough gold to buy a :NullfireBlade:

Purge complete.

[MacroHard]

We all know that Thunderbringer’s primary purpose in life is to unleash his magnificent ultimate. To balance the power of his ultimate, the game designers have wisely ensured that he is mostly useless until level 6.

Spell damage becomes less significant as the match drudges onward. Thunderbringer has the most unusual ability, Lightning Rod, that allows him to positively scale as a spellcaster against hard-to-kill enemies. He also has a global teamfight-worthy ultimate. This puts his maximum usefulness at midgame around level 11 when team fighting first becomes a factor.

Win a 2v2 lane first 10 minutes? You have a slight advangage.
Win the first few 5v5 teamfights outright? You win the game.

Most intelligence heroes thrive early game because spell damage becomes less significant as the match drudges onward. Don’t let this cause you to fall into the early-game-spellcaster syndrome when playing as Thunderbringer.

The problem with midgame Thunderbringer is that he has some serious early game deficiencies. He is very slow (295 ms) and has very little health (19 str + 1.8 per level). These two factors make him very fragile and primary target for most of the game. Nothing screams “kill me” more than a low health hero with 295 movement and no stun.

We now have two goals.
1) Survive early game such that gold can be maintained for that midgame stage
2) Maximize efficiency once at midgame level 11 to guarantee teamfight success

GOAL 1: SURVIVAL

Stats, stats, stats,

My suggested build is as follows. I will explain more about it later.
1 Chain Lightning (1)
2 Stats (+2)
3 Stats (+4)
4 Lightning Rod (1)
5 Stats (+6)
6 Ultimate (1)
7 Stats (+8)
8 Lightning Rod (2)
9 Lightning Rod (3)
10 Lightning Rod (4)
11 Ultimate (2)

This build will give you an amazing +8 stats… a full 152 health and 104 mana by level 11. Anyone who has ever purchased Power Supply knows that 152 health can easily be the difference between life and death. By having stats early on, Thunderbringer’s abysmal strength gain becomes a non-issue. In fact, by leveling stats every other level, you will be getting 2.8 strength per level on average... more that most strength based heroes!

You will also have Lightning Rod at max level just in time for your second tier ultimate. One point in Chain Lightning is picked up at level 1 for obvious reasons (to assist with last hits, long range early game snipe just in case, and to activate your Lightning Rod during team fights).

GOAL 2: LEVEL 11 TEAMFIGHT DOMINATION AT PEAK EFFICIENCY

This is what it is all about. I will provide two scenarios and let the numbers do the talking.

Assume 5 enemies with an average of 1500 health at level 11.
Assume all enemies have 5.5 magic armor (~25% reduction).
Assume you have time to cast Chain twice but everything else once.

Scenario 1 (standard crap build)
-4 levels of Blast
-4 levels of Chain
-1 level of Lightning Rod
-2 levels of Ult
-0 levels of Stats
-Died nonstop due to low HP pool so you don’t have spellshards

Total damage = 350 + (3%x7500) + 130x5 + (3%x7500) + 130x5 + (3%x7500) + 335x5 + (3%x7500)
= 4225 damage before reduction
= 3169 damage after reduction
Total mana = 135 + 86 + 86 +325 = 632 mana
Damage per mana = 5.01

Scenario 2 (awesome gg build)
-0 levels of Blast
-1 level of Chain
-4 levels of Lightning Rod
-2 levels of Ult
-4 levels of Stats
-Enough gold for Spellshards 3 OR Harkons biatch

Total damage = 85x5 + (9%x7500) + 85x5 + (9%x7500) + 335x5 + (9%x7500)
= 4550 damage before reduction
= 4550 damage after reduction
Total mana = 65 + 65 +325 = 455 mana
Damage per mana = 10.0

43.6% MORE damage output
28% LESS mana cost
100% MORE efficient
LARGER HP/MANA POOL

And so we conclude that the optimal mana strategy for Thunderbringer is to skip Q and W, maxing E and getting Spellshards/Harkon's.

[Coolcollo]

I bet someone is going to post and suggest that anything more than 1 point in :thun:'s first ability is good.

I've gone stats on most heroes. I dare someone to post why STATSBRINGER is good.

[Broodje]

Wait my post got removed, but didn't get an infraction? Damn you vahn, I know it was you!

[Fetyukov]

Someone needs to shut coolcollo up, there's no way that his thunderbringer built is even remotely possible in a real game.

[Ninja_Style]

Coolcollo's build is not all bad. I mean imagine someone promoting a build sacrificing lightning bolt completely in favor of 4 levels of stats. That would actually be a silly build.

Add broken math and poor comparisons ("look! it's much better than maxing chain lighning!") and people might even fall for it... -___-

[Broodje]

I'm so confused...

I'm doing good, thx for asking.

[Apostate]

Coolcollo's TB build is retarded, irrelevant, and only works in CM games. I'm not sure why you even brought that up, Burge.

By the way, Broodje, how are you doing? I was worrying about you yesterday.

[Yukari]

Person who snags post #162 in this thread gets a free hug

[Ouker]

That's like the sweetest thing I've ever heard :3

[Broodje]

I feel so lonely, I need to be pleased. Everytime I close my eyes, I feel the that the darkness companies me. I feel like my life isn't worth living anymore... Unless broodje asks me to drink a bottle of wine with him.

Ouker, i would like to drink a bottle of wine with you.

[LonelyQueen]

i feel the same way Ouk

[Ouker]

I feel so lonely, I need to be pleased. Everytime I close my eyes, I feel the that the darkness companies me. I feel like my life isn't worth living anymore... Unless broodje asks me to drink a bottle of wine with him.

[Coolcollo]

Originally Posted by LonelyQueen
I....I...I'm a man and I don't have a brother

Oh...well then.

[Broodje]

I....I...I'm a man and I don't have a brotherYou will still be a 12/f/jpn in my eyes <3.

But... Loli! NOooooo!

[LonelyQueen]

No. Your not >_<

[Ninja_Style]

Lately I was thinking about Joybear and how awesome she is. Feel free to disagree, but if you feel the same way, please answer me this question:

Am I awesome too?

[Ninja_Style]

Did you see FORUMACCOUNT around? He keeps spamming my mail with dirty Ninja_style porn-fanfiction... and he wants me to write back! o_O

[LonelyQueen]

i think Ninja_Style is dirty <3

[Ouker]

I though this thread was E

[Yukari]

This thread is not E

[Octavia]

I've been having dirty thoughts about Nymphora recently. I feel really guilty after every climax. Does Jesus not love me anymore? :(Jesus still loves you, child. This thread is rated [E] for everyone, however, so it would be wise to discuss this in more appropriate venues.

[LonelyQueen]

FORUMACCOUNT is so weird

[Ouker]

Yukari, I think that's completely normal. possibly. Here's a shirt with reaaallly long sleeves for ya.

[Coolcollo]

I just know someone is going to give out shirts with really long sleeves and not include me.

[Gangstar]

-edit LuckyStar's post vanished -edit-

Check out my shirt with really long sleeves ~.~ i got it for free

[Apostate]

Gangstar, who do you think is going to lose this game?

[Ouker]

I am pleased that I caused such amount of FFFFFUUU by posting a simple picture of a game.

[Yukari]

Lol ouker trolling everyone

[Sheriff]

Linking obscene bestial porn is bannable :phar:

[Broodje]

probably the best game to be made
http://inthegame.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/bulletstorm-in-game-.jpg

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU
no really it sucks

[Coolcollo]

I just know Okuu is going to remove several posts.

[Ouker]

probably the best game to be made
http://inthegame.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/bulletstorm-in-game-.jpg


The Game

[LonelyQueen]

You just lost...

[Ouker]

Next post will direct my way of annoying the people in this thread.

[LuckyStar]

Wow.... seriously.. nobody cares about any stupid MMOs that you play. :/

[Yukari]

Just got the cracked version of d3
you jelly?

[Ouker]

I've been thinking of getting Diablo 3 but pretty expensive for me :/

[MichaelBurge]

Diablo 3 kind of reminds me of Coolcollo's pub Thunderbringer build - it sounds kind of ridiculous at first, but once you get into it it's actually kind of fun. :drun:


I've been having dirty thoughts about Nymphora recently. I feel really guilty after every climax. Does Jesus not love me anymore? :(

You feel guilty because you didn't sign up for my forum game. I offered the prize knowing you needed it, and would be smart enough to claim it. :drun:

[LonelyQueen]

Lets start talking about diablo3

[Ouker]

Well this discussion has lost it's interest.

[Coolcollo]

Black and yellow
black and yellow
black and yellow
black and yellow
black and yellow

[Ouker]

GreenGreenGreenGreenGreen
GreenGreenYellowGreenGreen
GreenYellowBlueYellowGreen
GreenGreenYellowGreenGreen
GreenGreenGreenGreenGreen

[Surger]

Can anyone give me a walkthrough for simon?

[Ouker]

This forum is made of derps and herps :arma:
I just finished Sakarin Villapaitapeli. Took me 5 hours though.

[Broodje]

I recommend you to read Sakarin Villapaitapeli, it will probably take you 5 hours and 1 minute.

[Coolcollo]

Broodje should recommend a book for Ouker to read.

[Ouker]

The next dumb people will receive :arma:justice. For now, I'll just say :amun:

[Ahimtar]

:magm: - another one you forgot...

[Dorki]

I like every hero in HoN that has a way of teleporting/jumping like: :sand::dark::valk::tund::nymp::alun::chro::nigh: :para::silh::doct::monk::mage::myrm::wret::damp: :mali::drun::bubb::andr::mida:
ooooh so many heroes and I bet I even forgetting some.

edit: oeps almost forgot :phar:, please don't call me dumb for this :<

[Ouker]

I like how every S2 hero is never at least borderline on release. Like ever.

Not.

[Leyst]

I heard that the new hero might not actually make it on time.

Oh and watch this amazing quote I found!


I wish I could eat ponies, since I've heard they poop rainbows!

[Dorki]

Can somebody tell me what he thinks of the current heroes?
I'll reply with how I feel about them.

[Ouker]

I like how we've started sharing our thoughts here. Been a deep discussion so far, even when it's in such short spurts.

[Broodje]

That's just sick Leyst...

I would never do that to ponies D:.

Since I've started watching it I've fallen in love with them. It's a bit weird tho, because no one expects these random things from grown up men. Perhaps we're still childs from the inside. But honestly people talk about how awfully in love they are with the show, but I tend to disagree. It's a good show and all, but you don't have to exaggerate on how good the show is. There are still some people who don't even watch the show and still join up with certain poni clans, just to be part of the herd. But they don't know yet that they will never be part of it. Not even when they watched 1 episode of it. I could go on and on about this for quite a while. Even know people are questioning this post I guess, and I'm still questioning some other posts around here on people opinion of ponies. I love everyone that honestly loves ponies, and I love everyone who would never watch some serie just because others are watching it. But I will hate you if you just join up with the community without even loving them ponies.

With all this in mind. I wish I could eat ponies, since I've heard they poop rainbows!

[Leyst]

Brone rapes ponies! Especially the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic kind!

[BlanketGhost]

I am an orange wizard, me and the other wizards secretly protect the world from some cosmic horrors out there that wants to eat your parents up, spit them up and force their remains down your throat then eat you up again and use your spine as a toothpick. My specialty is fire magic. Believe it or not? :D

BTW, what does a brony do when he is on the bed?

[Ouker]

Well at least I don't want to get involved on the numbers after the 1 and 2 if it's with ponies. I honestly find that a bit sickening.
And what comes to secret identities, I find the last 2 quite unbeliavable.

[Notreallyno]

Pretty sure batman would win.

[Broodje]

Rofl you actually believe superman would win that pillow fight?

[Thear22]

Superman will totaly win the pillowfight against batman

[Ouker]

Holy **** guys, dayum. This Halloween party is like the best.
See, there's this guy that came as Superman, and then this guy that came as Batman. They are both arguing about each other's suit and just took the nearbiest weapons available... Pillows. Appearantly, those 2 are bronies and don't want to get too violent.

Although seems like they're both at it at their fullest o.O

[Notreallyno]

Wonder if Ouker is having fun at that furryhalloween-party.

[Leyst]

Guys did you hear that Ouker is at a halloween-party for furries?

[Yukari]

Nice costume there Ouker

[Broodje]

This is my costume for the evening
http://i.imgur.com/2QrJX.jpg

LOL! Your mom made that?

[Dorki]

LOL, ouker that costume :D and I heard his mom made it for him.

[Ouker]

Hoo boy, gotta go to this party now. My friends dared me to wear something ironic+iconic. So...

This is my costume for the evening
http://i.imgur.com/2QrJX.jpg[

[Leyst]

Wow, to think that it's already halloween! Anyone going to a party of sorts?

[HahaYouDied]

Hey guys! its halloween now!

[Nieve]

Congratulations, I bet no one will post in this thread anymore until its Halloween or something, completly ignoring everything from before.


Why the hell would you post something like that? It was such a good discussion until you made it die now... :(

[Broodje]

So I was like, LOL, what's with all the mess in this place. I wasn't quite sure, but I think it had something to do with the flying pig I saw recently that flew over my head. Glad he didn't take a crap on my head LOL. That would be awkward ROFLMAO, lets continue the discussion! [...]

I used to love discussions, untill I took an arrow in the knee...