View Full Version : Fix NULL STONE
Duck_Milk
08-22-2011, 12:35 PM
I just played a game with flux and Null stone on EW was cancelling my ultimate. So stupid, i wasnt able to push or pull him. Null stone isnt supposed to cancel only targetable spells?!?!?!?
Duck_milk :damp:
HonkHonkBeep
08-22-2011, 12:40 PM
TB ult? Vindi ult?
Talak_Hallen
08-22-2011, 12:44 PM
Did it cancel your ultimate completely? Or was it only Warden that didn't move? Cause if it's the second then that's perfectly fine and probably intended. The same thing happens with TB's ult. Single target doesn't literally mean "a single target". It more means "any targeted spell". Flux's ult targets each enemy hero and applies an effect to them. Same with TB's ult.
Mithrandoom
08-22-2011, 12:48 PM
Global ults (like Flux, TB, Vindi, and Sand Wraith) apply five single target spells, one to every enemy hero. Single target spells get blocked by nullstone. This is also why they apply the Frostwolf Skull debuff to everyone. /thread
Global ults (like Flux, TB, Vindi, and Sand Wraith) apply five single target spells, one to every enemy hero. Single target spells get blocked by nullstone. This is also why they apply the Frostwolf Skull debuff to everyone. /thread
So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
from frostwulfs as well? Nah
ElementUser
08-30-2011, 05:30 PM
There's nothing to fix, it's working fine
So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
from frostwulfs as well? Nah
that's exactly what he's sayin and he speaks the truth.
SlowDownBro
08-30-2011, 10:50 PM
So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
from frostwulfs as well? Nah
So you're saying you know what S2 intended to do with all their game mechanics..? If it's really a bug then it wouldn't still be around considering how well known it is.
Zelfana
08-31-2011, 11:22 AM
It's because of how the global spells were coded in DotA and the behavior hasn't been changed since then.
Heimdul
09-03-2011, 11:55 AM
trick question: if you have null stone on moraxus and you activate his spell absorb skill, what happens please?
Jotain
09-03-2011, 12:10 PM
Moraxus shield procs first, it has higher priority.
Ezili
09-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Whilst I'm sure it's working as intended, perhaps this is another example of HoN's non-newbie friendliness. There is not a word in any of the tooltips for those ults or for Null Stone that would lead you to expect this mechanic. Another thing you have to learn from (bad) experience.
Expecting people to say it's "part of the high skill ceiling of HoN".
Heimdul
09-03-2011, 12:21 PM
Thanks jotain!
PoLarizatioN
09-03-2011, 06:19 PM
It's because of how the global spells were coded in DotA and the behavior hasn't been changed since then.
Except that's only true for Zeus(TB). Neither Spectre(Sandwraith)'s nor Silencer(Vindicator)'s ultimates trigger Linken's(Nullstone).
Mysame
09-03-2011, 06:56 PM
Except that's only true for Zeus(TB). Neither Spectre(Sandwraith)'s nor Silencer(Vindicator)'s ultimates trigger Linken's(Nullstone).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc
Correct me if I'm wrong but..
If actiontype="global" and targetscheme="enemy heroes", the spell acts as 5 individual single target spells cast on each enemy hero, And it's intented.
And guess what?
actiontype="global"
targetscheme="enemy_heroes"
Are found in Flux' ulti
EDIT:
actiontype="global" just means it targets everything single-target wise that fits the targetscheme.
If it was AoE then it would have spawned an affector or did an <areaofeffect /> call
Thus I was correct, although what I said might have been a bit confusing for some. :)
WOHOO, I WASN'T WRONG!
ElementUser
09-03-2011, 08:09 PM
actiontype="global" just means it targets everything single-target wise that fits the targetscheme.
If it was AoE then it would have spawned an affector or did an <areaofeffect /> call