2.1.5 Patch Notes

[Idejder]

Download links:
Windows: http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/HoNClient-2.1.5.exe

Version 2.1.5
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- Fixed Shieldbreaker applying the debuff on Spell Damage
- Fixed Frost Rider slow from Cursed Shield working correctly
- This was missing from the 2.1.4 Patch Notes:
* Amun-Ra's Path of Destruction is now a ground target ability instead of a facing ability. Still goes 600 units, just in the direction you target

Version 2.1.4
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- The current Free Heroes have changed. The current available list is:
* :souls: Soulstealer
* :silh: Silhouette
* :defi: Defiler
* :glad: Gladiator
* :trem:Tremble
* :devo: Devourer
* :pest: Pestilence
* :magm: Magmus
* :blac: Blacksmith
* :pebb: Pebbles
* :ramp: Rampage
* :poll: Pollywog Priest
* :nymp: Nymphora
* :andr: Andromeda
* :vind: Vindicator

- Fixed a duplicate bug with Guides
- Ingame levelup effects now delayed slightly
- Added spectator chat ignore checkbox in the Spec UI
- Updated minimalist options for spec UI

- Healing radius of the Wells increased to better match the actual water
- Tree of Life and Sacrifical Shrine now have truesight


== NPCs ==



- Fixed sound bug with the bad range(warlocks) NPCS death sound not playing.
- Added death sounds to the good range(archers).
- Kongor
* Fixed the faction, non-player-controlled units giving the team 0 gold when they land the killing blow from Kongor.
* Now if a non-player controlled unit lands the killing blow on Kongor, then it gives 230 gold to the team (before it was giving 0)


== Items ==

- Re-ordered components for all recipe items so the most expensive items come first. This makes right clicking on an item in the store more useful and less dumb

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
- Shieldbreaker: Increased damage by 10 per level from 30/45/60 to 40/55/70 and ignore's the target's Deflection when you attack them
* Deflection is the damage blocked by items like Helm of the Black Legion and Iron Shield
- Alchemist Bones' timer is now paused while the hero is dead


== Heroes ==

- Added a new Alt Avatar:Frost Rider

:arac: Arachna
- Movespeed from 290 to 295

:dark: Dark Lady
- Dark Blades cooldown from 22/18/14/10 to 16/14/12/10
- Charging Strikes cooldown from 21/17/13/9 to 15/13/11/9

:drun: Drunken Master
- Drink rescaled to channel for 2 seconds, gaining 2/4/6/8 charges per second. Upon enemy death in 500 AoE, he gains 2/4/6/8 charges
- Stagger deals 50% more damage to creeps

:gaun: Gauntlet
- Infernal Instability now gives 50% mana back if you do not attack anything.

:keep: Keeper of the Forest
- Treant Dogs are now limited to 2/3/4/5 max. If you summon more than the max the oldest ones will automatically die
- Treant Dogs can no longer attack Towers if they are more than 800 units away from the Keeper
- Fixed scripting to be better

:mage: Magebane
- Master of Mantra aura increased from 600 to 800

:monk: Monkey King
- Starting Stength increased by 2
- Flying Nimbus activation removed. Is now a full passive with a 5 second cooldown that will automatically trigger when not taking damage


== Bugfixes ==


:andr: Andromeda
- Fixed Aurora affector speed & lifetime so it matches the visuals

:damp: Dampeer
- Fixed his Bloodthirst aura so it stacks with Harkon's Blade, Webbed Shot and Master's Incantation

:defi: Defiler
- Fixed a bug where she can super deny allies & herself

:deme: Demented Shaman
- Fixed scripting so Unbreakable is more robust against odd frame situations (healing 2 times in 1 frame, etc.)

:doct: Doctor Repulsor
- Fixed Opposite Charges so it plays the link
- Optimized Magnetic Contraption a bit
- Fixed Portal Key exploit

:drun: Drunken Master
- Fixed the double-activate bug on Lunge where it can deal 2x the push and 2x the damage
- Fixed Lunge bug where it was teleporting Drunken Master to (0,0)
- Fixed Lunge bug when you play animations after dead (again)
- Fixed Lunge's push affecting invulnerable units
- Fixed Untouchable's "HIC!" sound not playing at the correct times on levels 1 & 2

:emer: Emerald Warden
- Fixed a small visual bug where the large vine model was lingering too long at lower levels of Overgrowth
- Fixed Gawain using Diving Strikes when he's dead
- Fixed a super-duper rare bug where he gets glitched after respawn when Gawain attempts to use Forest's Touch on the same frame he dies

:empa: Empath
- Now doesn't follow her last queued action after she gets out of someone
- Fixed a visual bug where the wall visual was expiring 1 second before the real wall expired
- Fixed Essence Link so it does DOT damage now

:engi: Engineer
- Passing through the Energy Field will now automatically break channelling if it hits you
- Made Spider Mines have 0 cast time

:legi: Legionnaire
- Made Whirling Blade proc on fountain attacks
- Fixed a small animation bug where he would still be in charging animation if the skill cancels via the distance check

:magm: Magmus
- Fixed an issue with Eruption's idle animation and the effects

:mora: Moraxus
- Made More Axes blockable via Arcane Shield and Untouchable

:myrm: Myrmidon
- Weed field now breaks Succubus' Mesmerize
- Fixed a bug where Carp would stun you if you were rooted or immobilized and had a movement order queued up

:para: Parasite
- Fixed him teleporting to the target's location if the target dies before the Infest projectile impacts
- Fixed the Parasite- Gauntlet ult bug

:phar: Pharaoh
- Fixed a small spawn location bug with his Wrath of the Pharaoh if he turns 90 degrees; it now spawns in the correct position relative to Pharaoh & the target

:( Rhapsody
- Fixed a bug where the DoT from Disco Inferno wasn't being applied if an enemy was stunned inside

:sand: Sand Wraith
- Fixed his passive AOE triggering Nomad's ultimate and canceling Succubus' Mesmerize

:slit: Slither
- Fixed a small issue with Poison Spray target cursor not highlighting the correct targets

:wret: Wretched Hag
- Fixed an extremely rare bug with Bat Blast's cone visual

[SexyVanilla]

YEAH!

[SmackUrSiss]

Wiiho nice patch, MGIHBDB.

[Ardanis]

Finaly a decent patch!

[Ph3noM]

Woop!

Hate the bottle changes, but free courier me liek!

[SmackTrick]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
- Shieldbreaker: Increased damage by 10 per level from 30/45/60 to 40/55/70 and ignore's the target's Deflection when you attack them
* Deflection is the damage blocked by items like Helm of the Black Legion and Iron Shield
- Alchemist Bones' timer is now paused while the hero is dead

Wait, wat.

[jenechek]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by defaultLet the rage begin!

[QQloy]

omgah how about sol bolawrk?:madm:

[dohteM]

bullshit abt bottle :S

[Travo]

LMAO. Worst patch ever.

Cant wait to get into dota2 beta.

[Runetrap]

how notail win mid now wtf

[moshonkel]

lol bye bye alchenmist bones nerfed to oblivion, and worse than they were before the patch.

[mygeL]

Yayness

[Verdii]

Awesome!!....


OH W8 BULL****!

[KilluminatiG]

nice fix on keeper

[haDro]

Everyone starting with a courier. Why don't you make wards available for free as well? Increase gold gain per minute, glad I'm not gonna play this.

[DoctorZ]

hmm...

[apm120]

fantastic patch

[P4lm]

Only good thing about the patch is: Flying Nimbus activation removed. Is now a full passive with a 5 second cooldown that will automatically trigger when not taking damage. It was soooo sooo sooo hard to press R.

[Leyart]

Ahahah owned Tree, play him now tryhards

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier

More and more is turnning a casual game...

[tobbe628]

Wow Some Balance.. But way to litle balance.. great.. :(

[ChuckNorris]

**** you, s2.... turning normal mode into casual...
worst patch since the last1 lol...
HoN gets worse with every patch; it's like you want to prepare ppl for dota2; until now i was convinced i would never prefer dota2 over hon... but what you did with this game is just too much lol and too less dota... making it more casual
**** you, just **** you s2

[RedRooster]

Fountain diving with super farmed :legi: anyone? :D

[DeathCult]

Make Monkey King's ultimate both manually controllable as well as auto casting. It is lame to have a hero's ulti go off on its own, seriously.

[Verdii]

All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default.

PLZ REMOVE THAT!! ='[

Everyone starting with a courier. Why don't you make wards available for free as well? Increase gold gain per minute, glad I'm not gonna play this.

Why not 2 wards each 6 minutes?

[ArtVandelay]

Any way to disable the free courier usage by griefers?

[dynamic7]

how notail win mid now wtf

Bottle runes to refill it

[Lollizort]

Anyone knows a fix how I can update the game properly w/o k2 erroring? Cuz last time I had to redownload the game.... That was previous patch....

[Julius]

Take off the bottle being able to be refilled by courier in the game tips when you're joining a match.

[Credge]

No plague alt skin.

[stepson]

Thx for nerphing keeper and thx for making team starts with courier (good in lower brackets).

And:
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
n0tail?

[tarosh]

y u no put frozen plague in shop guise?

[C00LBeans]

Frost Rider isn't even in shop?

Fix asap pls i want him!

[DCJT]

Finally you fixed keeper. Thats all I wanted. THANKS! Should have been last week -_-

[Spathi]

Crashes while patching.

[Shaddox]

This patch is ****ING AWESOME. The free courrier is the icing on the cake. Can now buy a courrier to block creep spawns if they have a jungler. :)

[MrEvilStevo]

indeed they are making this way too easy by giving us all a courier. why not just make casual mode the default.

[Yoekix]

great K2 error on updating, lets download the client again -_-

[Tzaa]

Ain' no Frost Rider in the shop :/

[Deluxe88]

Bought plague skin, woah, looks awesome!

[qazqazqaz]

Best patch eu, thanks S2!

[Glateate]

Or hey, I've got an idea.

How about we keep patching the game, but won't let the players download the patches!!!
Instead we make them download the whole client again because that's funny!!!

**** you S2 games

[Wootshi]

Made Whirling Blade proc on fountain attacks
BEST CHANGE EVER

[Cassiopeiae]

Frost Rider Bug Noting Available

[OmniusX]

CRASH CRASH CRASH
Can't patch!!!111

[Good_Apollo]

Frost Rider is sooooooooo legit. Only 600 gold coins, ****ing bargain!

[Lollizort]

Or hey, I've got an idea.

How about we keep patching the game, but won't let the players download the patches!!!
Instead we make them download the whole client again because that's funny!!!




How to fix this.... Cuz downloading the client two times in a row is pretty damn anoying.... Never had this problem before I got it since last patch and this one........

Fix it? Or give me an solution how to fix it myself thanks in advance ;)

[SoNotAzn]

Good courier change. -200g from a player was arbitrary before. Now that money can be spent for wards/counterwards. Going to be fun to see pale nerds ***** about this interesting new mechanic though. Rofl.

[Silidons]

they remove my post of 3st but the post right underneath it saying YEAH didn't get removed. cool story faggot.

[Epidemilk]

Shieldbreaker possibly worth being an attack modifier now?

[Norain]

Awesome patch, thanks!
But there's no frost rider in shop.

[Kaee]

<3 patch

[Fladdermusen]

as some people already stated, crashing over and over again and this started since last patch-.-'''''''''''''''''

[thisisUllrik]

crashes while patching. dislike :/

[GLun]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier

WTF, bad changes..

[mtK]

No ALT in shop....?

[xXxLooPxXx]

i get a crash when i update ... please help ... im using Windows

[Tapetenfleck]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
a little too casual...

who came up with this idea?
and why? :O

[MrLInk]

crap why u give every one a walking currier, this game its getting every week more megaretarded prove and thats not fun

[`tris]

ok FU I CANT ****IN UPDATE IT BECASUE I GOT CRASH EVERYTIME IN EVERY PATCH

[PonyPummeler]

The Drunken Master drunk cahrge gain on enemy hero death is just out of place. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever, not like the hero had a good design before since the things he shares with a drunken master is drinking and having attack animations that somewhat look like drunken boxing, feeling just clumsy with all the channeling and strange directional behaviour, no unit walking after using stagger so you often end up being pushed to weird places.

That whole hero design is just meh.

[See_Ya]

nerfed keeper!! <3

[Exci]

Shieldbreaker possibly worth being an attack modifier now?

:arma: or :scou: ?

[Baer]

Now can make Winged Courier at start <3

[jenechek]

Keeper nerf, DM buff, courier change...<3
Premium alt for PR, dryad warden no more exclusive... I HATE YOU S2!!!

[Alex_Ice]

Crash when instaling the patch :X

[Nostromo]

i miss Fielding as lead designer :(

[SniperNinja]

Eat **** you guys that says a cour is to casual..

Its 200 gold to supports that would buy it anyways, now it goes to uppgrade or more wards so stop *****ing. Its a good change!

[`tris]

maybe admins anserw how to fix this ****...

[Yes`ImBad]

Listen to all the try hards complain. lmao

[Volfenstein]

most retarded patch ever. the free courier and the bottle piss me off. thanks for thinking about "balance"

[Known]

Courier not filling bottle ??

[Alex_Ice]

Pls fix this i cant instal the patch :X

[smiley12]

another retarded patch
and new alt only for gold coins, silver coins so useless

[Joken]

I actually like the keeper nerf, his pushing potential was way to awesome, this changes doesnt destroy him, just makes him a bit weaker.
I don't care about the cour, I rather like it, as there will be more often a flying cour at the start @ 1600mmr games, for higher ratings it rather sucks.
I dont like the bottle change at all, I guess there will be way less action now, as u have to care more for your heal.

But most important: pls fix the patch, i dont feel like downloading the client again with my f*cking slow Internet...

[Krilox]

People can really complain about anything.

You're retards, all of you. That's all.

[riderSirius]

Ahah .... cant wait to be in dota2 beta.
This game is going futher and further away of what it was : a good copy of dota !

[Lollizort]

Can't even redownload cuz that file isn't updated yet. Its still 2.1.2 file in the download section and I can't update ingame cuz i get k2 error after k2 error tried a couple of times by now.

So if any S2 admin could reply how to fix this extremely annoying bug. Do it asap. This is pretty damn annoying

[smiley12]

Ahah .... cant wait to be in dota2 beta.
This game is going futher and further away of what it was : a good copy of dota !

2 days only

[Good_Apollo]

Drunken Master still sucks.

[Z3ROCOOL22]

LMAO. Worst patch ever.

Cant wait to get into dota2 beta.

U don't!

[Son]

If you crash while updating on Windows XP, right-click your hon.exe, click Properties, go to the Compatibility tab and tick the 'Run this program in compatibility mode for: Windows 95' box. You'll be able to patch just fine. Just remember to untick it after you've patched because it affects the game's performance.

[THESICKO]

Go back to making the Savage series s2. You can't cut it in a competitive, balanced, regulated setting.

[Z3ROCOOL22]

Nice patch! GJ S2!

Haters gonna Hate and Dotards gonna Troll! ^^

[Lollizort]

If you crash while updating on Windows XP, right-click your hon.exe, click Properties, go to the Compatibility tab and tick the 'Run this program in compatibility mode for: Windows 95' box. You'll be able to patch just fine. Just remember to untick it after you've patched because it affects the game's performance.

that didnt work for me :(

[FDY]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier



Worst patch ever! :madm:

[Diablo``]

Really nice changes, gj S2
I'm glad you keep improving HoN instead of staying the old DotA copy

It's funny how all those <1600s are crying about bottle ferry and courier change, as if it woult impact their games in any way

[`tris]

that didnt work for me :(
same, it worked last patch but this is buged now

[LeaveUrHope]

Will there be not premium alt avatars in future? Just wondering =\

[RUSty_]

Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
Pinoys will never play this game, shame really.

[HLG]

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9463403.jpg

[Asrial]

Legio's whirling blades procs on FOUNTAIN?!

Oh my. That's a hard fail.

[Lylar]

If you crash while updating on Windows XP, right-click your hon.exe, click Properties, go to the Compatibility tab and tick the 'Run this program in compatibility mode for: Windows 95' box. You'll be able to patch just fine. Just remember to untick it after you've patched because it affects the game's performance.

This worked for me and fixed the K2 crash on patching (Yes I am using windows XP atm). Thank you.

[boblehest]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Another change caused by S2 listening to the whining kids on the forums.
The fact that your 100k other members didn't whine was because they were happy about the way it was, but I guess S2 has proven time after time that their stupidity is practically unlimited.

If you'd give us bonus gold in random, we would have started buying couriers again, problem solved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[```Spawn]

Worst patch ever! :madm:

+100500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:madm::ma dm::madm::madm::madm::madm::madm::madm::madm::madm ::madm::madm::madm:

[Rikomi]

Shieldbreaker possibly worth being an attack modifier now?

Yeah holy ****, it makes shields not work now lol? Whispering Helm just got benched.

[He]

Good job!

[```Spawn]

This patch cant even install self. :D
--------------------------
message from console that caused K2 Exception error:
Hit end of file in ReadInt16() on file *:/*****/HeroesofNewereth/compat_ignore.txt
FML CANT EVEN UPDATE Lala la lai

[inkerz]

Yeah holy ****, it makes shields not work now lol? Whispering Helm just got benched.
what's the connection with Whispering helm?

[gozniC]

Dryad warden? Thought it only was IGN Exclusive. Boycott HoN.

[Belmondo]

free heroes: again not enough supports

[DonkeyHot]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
How about "All teams start with :Doombringer: and :BehemothsHeart: and token of life with 99 charges"?
Come on, it's not ****ing casual mode.

[the_tes]

（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Another change caused by S2 listening to the whining kids on the forums.
The fact that your 100k other members didn't whine was because they were happy about the way it was, but I guess S2 has proven time after time that their stupidity is practically unlimited.

If you'd give us bonus gold in random, we would have started buying couriers again, problem solved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kid whines on forum about whining kids on forum.

[KUQI]

seriously what the **** is this courrier thing... you must be out of ur ****ing mind

[Viscera]

Solid patch as always

[`tris]

i think one file which is working fine is uninstall in hon folder. im already bored of trying to update this...

[Corpsy]

As long as i don't see a title "former gold avatar exclusive", i am ok with it.

[Profane]

You are trying so hard to make people join the game and you can't make sure the simplest thing, the update is working properly???? Seriously s2.... come on....
I won't even comment on the bottle and the courier

[superdeluxxe]

All the hero balance changes are nice (although mb still won't get picked imo), but uh... Engi?! Cmon now. get rid of those mines. no one wants them.

Pretty much every one of the item changes is... eh is to me. really, really dodgy. especially with DoTA2 coming up. Might have shot yourself in the foot.

[`tris]

How about "All teams start with :Doombringer: and :BehemothsHeart: and token of life with 99 charges"?
Come on, it's not ****ing casual mode.
H@H@H@@H@H :D

[SoulDragon]

- Kongor
* Fixed the faction, non-player-controlled units giving the team 0 gold when they land the killing blow from Kongor.
* Now if a non-player controlled unit lands the killing blow on Kongor, then it gives 230 gold to the team (before it was giving 0)
props to me for asking a random question in mechanics a few months ago :D



- Shieldbreaker: Increased damage by 10 per level from 30/45/60 to 40/55/70 and ignore's the target's Deflection when you attack them
* Deflection is the damage blocked by items like Helm of the Black Legion and Iron Shield
Yay shieldbreaker is actually worth a crap now!



- Made Whirling Blade proc on fountain attacks
This sounds amazingly lulzy.

All and all this is a GREAT patch imo. Thank god I don't have to worry about not having a courier anymore. And kudos on the Keeper nerf that's exactly what I had in mind on how to nerf him (a.k.a. Wildsoul was broken in the same way why not give Keeper the same nerf?)

Although I do have to say I really hope that all this talk about that PR recolor being for gold coins only and 600 at that aren't true because I usually keep my mouth shut about business decisions in a company I don't work for but you are pretty much shooting yourself in the foot with that one, basically affirming the bad (MOSTLY undeserved) publicity.

[Bill_Braskey]

- Shieldbreaker: Increased damage by 10 per level from 30/45/60 to 40/55/70 and ignore's the target's Deflection when you attack them
* Deflection is the damage blocked by items like Helm of the Black Legion and Iron Shield

Nice.

[Hunty]

And ofcourse the new avatar is premium :)!
This is getting pretty lame, $2 :(

[Dacko]

Since weaks we wait for a serious balance patch, DOGKaiser STILL in holiday?

[```Spawn]

get some rest please men u rly need it!!!

[```Spawn]

Then u can work... and write to us some good patches GL!

[Serosch]

next step: remove the codex from the game.

[minim4rkuz]

And ofcourse the new avatar is premium :)!
This is getting pretty lame, $2 :(


cant be true.

S2 remember, now is f2p.

times ago i paid 40$ for play hon.

i dont want to spend 1$ plus.

[Lapsus]

YEAH!
How fkin hard it is to buff MQ?! :S Like arachna wasn't already much better, even without the movement speed.

MQ hasn't been touch in 6 months or so, and she hasn't been picked in a comp. game in same time frame..

:moon: < :arac:

[`Fluttershy]

this is bullshit, now you can't tell casual mode from normal mode apart just by looking at if you have a starting courier. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

[CrusaderSRB]

ok I have a problem with this update... it downloads it but the game crashes a sec it starts to update.. same with the last patch but it was included in the game download so i downloaded it again and it worked, but this week its not included in the game download. Pls help ppl.!

[tHe_silent_H]

trolololol you can now aim ra's stun

[Hiros]

men~, s2 is the worst company ever, what's up with the drunken master tweaks?! everyone suggested to remove the channeling, now u kept the channeling and in early game u fcked him up?!
why not reducing mana cost, low his drink cd?!
oh dudes, whats up with, stop smoking sh1t

[delfwn]

Every time i try to update i have an error,and i cant play,what with that
plz reply

[SSTHZero]

- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier

I remember this in Dota. Was reverted when the rice fest started... but still is a rice fest.

[_Uniden]

Ahahah owned Tree, play him now tryhards

lol u mad bro?

[pulsingBT]

worst patch ever.

gj

[Lexi]

wth ?! so now public and normal game turn into casual mode with that courier in the start? also the bottle changes ...
for real man...

[Pibadi]

Thx!
Nice patch! Keep doing ur job! <3 <3 <3

[Xterme]

Stupid kids compering games whit each others hon should not be dota and i am glad they changed so much **** Dota.Dota 2 i **** and you know hon looks better and has new heroes.

[Pellikan]

Best patch ever, now the supports can actually have an impact on the game :)

[Tay_z0nday]

Dude you dont get it.... it's to buff support hero because they only start with 400$
A lots of player who are playing support will be happy.
The sad thing about this patch is about bottle.... how can u win now if u are unlucky and never get the rune.
Alchemist bone is also useless now, its gonna be good if you never die and useless if u die.

[SugarPill]

Bullshit about Bottle and courier .
I play Support and i dont mind buying you a monkey . I just dont think its fair cus . I can buy one and on the other team they dont so its a clear mid win for us .
And the bottle bit is idiotic ...

[KNCH]

alt avatar is too expensive (as usual).. but the patch is pretty good..

[fr0stebyte]

bottle change is idiotic, s2 you keep disappointing me.

soloed mid till 1800 and i feel that changes the game.

Means from now on i must go back to well and regen?
Pretty stupid.

These little things made me log on less and less on hon.

[Valgyr]

2 buyback limit was a real cry fest, yet watching dota2 stream its a GREAT change, just like the free cour is, who wants to support in pubs when u will start with a minor totem and be free food for every ganker or any hero rly due to no hp. I think its a good change when its settled.

[SugarPill]

$40 dollars for 2.4k Gold Coins .
2.4k / 600 = 4.
$10 per alt avatar skin ? .
Children in africa live on less than $10 a week .. T_T ...



You stink of Riot ..:/ I bought legacy i am not spending another 40£ on some **** skin ... I ma thank all the Mod makers out there :D Good Job ...

[Mediumost]

I cant install the new patch, I keep getting those innoying crashrapports. Anyone know how to fix it?

[JUVENTUZ]

Free courier !? Wtf ?
Are u joking !?

[Lollizort]

S2 how about you fix your patcher this is ****ing annoying. Tried all the things people said on the forums and yet you don't give out a statement on how to fix it. Or fix it yourself.

This is 100% retarded. I never really was unhappy w/ what you guys have done w/ HoN but this is just annoying as hell. I want to play but due to your failure patch I can't. And if I was the only one I wouldn't have cried. But apparently a **** load of other people besides me have the same problem.

So get a fix or get the game up in the download section and I'll freaking redownload it.....

[DotMaster]

Nice patch GJ :D

[_azathoth_]

S2 how about you fix your patcher this is ****ing annoying. Tried all the things people said on the forums and yet you don't give out a statement on how to fix it. Or fix it yourself.

This is 100% retarded. I never really was unhappy w/ what you guys have done w/ HoN but this is just annoying as hell. I want to play but due to your failure patch I can't. And if I was the only one I wouldn't have cried. But apparently a **** load of other people besides me have the same problem.

So get a fix or get the game up in the download section and I'll freaking redownload it.....


totally agreeeeeee

[FuFury]

What happend to the two "intelligence burst" heroes that you promised several complaining kiddos? (Me not one of them)

[IVaCH]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=41309
Credits, thank you, something?................. this make me sad.

[Harakesh]

Great now I dont have to beg for a courier all the time in lower tier games... geeez that is annoying buying a courier as a mid Flint. I don't care about the bottle changes, never use it anyways. Rest of the patch looks amazing as well. Good job S2! Tho the Alchemist Bones nerf is kinda gay... this seriously hurts any jungler.

[WigglyFace]

if all these mad nerds really want to make the supports buy the courier, send the free one into the enemy tower. see if your team helps you out then. quit crying babies and recognize that supports in pubs needed this tiny bit of help so that they can make sure there is a flying courier and wards, even in games where some trasher doesn't buy them on Andromeda because "She's Agi Carry Solo Mid".

[Goldkind]

And again a thre thousand coins avatar?????? ****ign three thousand????
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[z0mbi]

I'm having trouble seeing what exactly the problem is with free courier. Higher rated games, both teams were obviously going to buy it anyways. Lower rated games, good players stuck in this bracket now do not have to yell at their teammates for a courier.

You don't really believe that buying a 200gold courier makes this game hardcore, do you? This is not making the game for casuals, it's not game changing or game breaking- it's just logical.

[VoLCaDo]

GooD

[Mediumost]

S2 how about you fix your patcher this is ****ing annoying. Tried all the things people said on the forums and yet you don't give out a statement on how to fix it. Or fix it yourself.

This is 100% retarded. I never really was unhappy w/ what you guys have done w/ HoN but this is just annoying as hell. I want to play but due to your failure patch I can't. And if I was the only one I wouldn't have cried. But apparently a **** load of other people besides me have the same problem.

So get a fix or get the game up in the download section and I'll freaking redownload it.....

Totally agree! Would be nice with some repons from S2.

[Scimish]

Lol @ this patch.
Gonna go play League Of Legends now.

[laZerSpace13]

Why cant i dowload latest client?

[Sepherie1]

I don't understand the complaining about the free ground courier. This gives support heroes the option of upgrading from the start or buying items that help them better in the lane. Let's face it, everyone wants a courier on their team, and when someone doesn't buy it, they rage. It's not making it more casual, it making the game less inhibiting for certain types of heroes and the entire team in general.

[FromBehinD]

50% on premium avatars pls!

[Rikomi]

SOLUTION TO THOSE WHO CRASH DURING PATCH:



Right click HoN icon
Select Properties
Select Compatibility tab
Checkmark the compatibility checkbox and select windows 95
Apply, and OK
Patch

http://i.imgur.com/t1kVZ.png

[Facegank]

K2 Exceptions again while updating woohoooo!!

[Girly]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
- Alchemist Bones' timer is now paused while the hero is dead

All completely unnecessary. More attempts to badly differentiate yourself from DotA.


:keep: Keeper of the Forest
- Treant Dogs are now limited to 2/3/4/5 max. If you summon more than the max the oldest ones will automatically die
- Treant Dogs can no longer attack Towers if they are more than 800 units away from the Keeper

This was completely ****ing unnecessary. Keeper was not broken or even close to it, the only reason this happened was because you bowed down to pressure from noobs who didn't know how to gank / hold TPs / fortify. Jesus.


Can't believe I wasted time and cap updating.

[Lollizort]

SOLUTION TO THOSE WHO CRASH DURING PATCH:



Right click HoN icon
Select Properties
Select Compatibility tab
Checkmark the compatibility checkbox and select windows 95
Apply, and OK
Patch




If that only worked for me :< I'd be happy

[Killimon]

has nobody a mac? who can help me out with the new graphic problems? thanks

[Nark0Punk]

Notail nerf on this patch :(

[Rikomi]

has nobody a mac? who can help me out with the new graphic problems? thanks

Did you try switching your graphics options to OpenGL, instead of directx9?

[Facegank]

SOLUTION TO THOSE WHO CRASH DURING PATCH:



Right click HoN icon
Select Properties
Select Compatibility tab
Checkmark the compatibility checkbox and select windows 95
Apply, and OK
Patch

http://i.imgur.com/t1kVZ.png

Did that. Doesn't work for me. Anyway, thanks for trying to help.

[Cyanotic]

-The nerfs on Keeper are small yet effective.
-THANK YOU for giving The Dark Lady some love, but I really think you could have done a little more for her :/. Hopefully Sandwraith and Chronos tweaks to follow?
-I'm really not sure about the free courier... Obviously noobs are going to get like 50 boners over this but I'm really not to sure if I like how it will effect the rest of the game.
-Good Alchemist bones nerf.
-Indifferent to Monkey King/Drunken Master changes as I hate them both
-Gauntlet buff is forgiving, kind of nice.

The patch is really solid except for the courier change. That's the only thing I'm on the fence about.

[Krrik]

Fix Ra plz, rly sux having to target Path of Destruction, hurts his gameplay.

[`tris]

SOLUTION TO THOSE WHO CRASH DURING PATCH:



Right click HoN icon
Select Properties
Select Compatibility tab
Checkmark the compatibility checkbox and select windows 95
Apply, and OK
Patch

http://i.imgur.com/t1kVZ.png
as i said before, it worked last patch but now it doesnt

[Rikomi]

as i said before, it worked last patch but now it doesnt

It worked for me. I crashed while updating, did this and now it patched. It seems to work for some, even with this patch. Worth a try for anyone having troubles patching.

[Waengl]

great K2 error on updating, lets download the client again -_-

same here... always chrashing if it wants to install the downloaded patch -.-*
Let's load complete client new, and make new hotkeys... MeMadManNow!!! :madm:

[burntchomsky]

The new Frost Rider avatar isn't showing up in the shop under the alternate avatar page...only showing up on the "specials" page.

[gambler]

:glac: starting itens now: :MinorTotem: :MinorTotem: :MarkOfTheNovice: :MarkOfTheNovice: :RunesOfTheBlight: :HealthPotion:

[crudo]

if u got problems with patching, download is on the first page

[Yusuke]

Hi guys,

by the way nice patch guys, except the change to bottle, which i dislike.

i dont get it why HoN player are full of rager, it doesn't matter, if noobs or not. Last game i got a Orange player, he picked :emer: away from my mate, raged the whole game about me that i do nothing just jungling for 20 mins. with Legionaire. But this wasn't true, i ganked as much i could and succesful. But you can't teach bad players like this orange... and of course this EW failed hard and got no items, only boots, bottle and firebrand in the 30 min. mark. ... Well, i hate this community.. they are raging, flaming about other teammates and end up to failing hard....

My suggestion would be to solve this problem a bit. To change MMR of actually all new players and average who stuck in the 1500 go to 0.

This would fix the problem that better players fall as well into the ground.

What do you think? :madm:

[Killimon]

Did you try switching your graphics options to OpenGL, instead of directx9?

how can i do this?

/e: there is no directx on mac lol

[StayAway]

fantastic patch


S2 Team, there might be an issue with the new patch, in game graphics (map on legion side) are shown as black and white squares ...
the edges of the cliffs on legion side are like checkerboard.
plz fix it
PS it's not my video card, i asked many players and they said the same.

[Rhareg]

for all who keep crashing : rightclick on desktop icon, properties, compatibilitymode -> windows 95, start game, update, close game, remove mode and start again

[shrty]

very gj! :)

[Waengl]

SOLUTION TO THOSE WHO CRASH DURING PATCH:



Right click HoN icon
Select Properties
Select Compatibility tab
Checkmark the compatibility checkbox and select windows 95
Apply, and OK
Patch

http://i.imgur.com/t1kVZ.png

DAMNNN!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SYdjRVCR0&feature=related


yes it worked! yippie! Ty man how did u found that out? NoManNow! :noma::noma::noma:

[BaneLing]

How come I can't patch to 2.1.4 whenever I finish downloading and starts to patch I always get K2 Error

[Neymar]

Fix Ra plz, rly sux having to target Path of Destruction, hurts his gameplay.

I second this.:amun:

[FlagonDry]

Fix Ra plz, rly sux having to target Path of Destruction, hurts his gameplay.

I think it's funny that they changed this, but didn't mention it in the changelog. Is it a bug or did they forget to add it?

[Hanayal]

Just another Gold Avatar? srsrly?

[Dragol]

Yeah fix Ra

[DeathCult]

The best idea that I can come up is, sell Heroes of Newerth or even entire S2 Games to Google or Valve or Microsoft. They can do a better job than you people who are currently calling themselves "Game Developers".

[Namo1]

PATCH PROBLEM FOR ME AND MY FRIEND lol. Tried every solution, still can't. S2 getting shitty.

[XaLOpAbLO]

omg courier sigh

[`NooB`]

Free courier for every1... <3

[szmajchel]

How to fix this.... Cuz downloading the client two times in a row is pretty damn anoying.... Never had this problem before I got it since last patch and this one........

Fix it? Or give me an solution how to fix it myself thanks in advance ;)
In Win XP:
Right click on HON icon->properties->compatibility-> turn on compatibility with Win 95. Patch game, exit and turn off compatibility with win 95. Enjoy
I have this problem for few months, still no fix

[Dirtylinus]

Cant update without a crash report as usual:pand:

[Rikomi]

PATCH PROBLEM FOR ME AND MY FRIEND lol. Tried every solution, still can't. S2 getting shitty.

Try downloading the patch from the link in the original post first page. Or restart your PC, and try patching in-game.

[teejing]

Nice Patch, haters gonna hate...

just think drunken master could have used a bigger buff...

[philo]

how is it able that master of arms and monkey king is free?

[WigglyFace]

:glac: starting itens now: :MinorTotem: :MinorTotem: :MarkOfTheNovice: :MarkOfTheNovice: :RunesOfTheBlight: :HealthPotion:

no

:FlyingCourier: :WardOfSight: :WardOfSight: :RunesOfTheBlight::MinorTotem::MinorTotem: is core

[whatever2k]

after every patch there comes the same thought into my mind : fix the server issues instead of changing / ruining / adding new things every friday ... - disappointment is getting bigger and bigger ...

[Wayfinder]

An awesome patch. A free game should have greater focus on being Casual in order to increase players count. This patch rocks, don't get me wrong I see no reason to hate the game for giving me a free monkey... Also the abolishment of the term hard support will benefit this game a lot. Way to go S2 !

PS : Please fix the update error, I have to reinstall the game every time I need to patch. ;)

[Gorescream]

No :emer: nerf ? :(

[Juuto]

Free Courier? This change is so stupid and not needed at all.

Lol @ wasn't this supposed to be a balance patch? Isn't TDL the strongest hard carry in the game or close to it? I don't see how she needs buffs when it's just that your game has nothing to offer for melee hard carries who want walk around with amazing attack animations, 600 range, steroid spells, stuns, and 350 damage nukes.

[Soten]

Good change to keeper, but how about make this standard on every hero that summons minions.. aka :balp:,:warb:,:ophe:.

[crudo]

Hi guys,

by the way nice patch guys, except the change to bottle, which i dislike.

i dont get it why HoN player are full of rager, it doesn't matter, if noobs or not. Last game i got a Orange player, he picked :emer: away from my mate, raged the whole game about me that i do nothing just jungling for 20 mins. with Legionaire. But this wasn't true, i ganked as much i could and succesful. But you can't teach bad players like this orange... and of course this EW failed hard and got no items, only boots, bottle and firebrand in the 30 min. mark. ... Well, i hate this community.. they are raging, flaming about other teammates and end up to failing hard....

My suggestion would be to solve this problem a bit. To change MMR of actually all new players and average who stuck in the 1500 go to 0.

This would fix the problem that better players fall as well into the ground.

What do you think? :madm:

dude just flame back most of the noobs will stop ragin then :blac:

[Fenril]

Reinstalling Hon then updating worked for me

Nothing else worked

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.Reinstalling Hon then updating worked for me

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.

thanks for awesome bug fixes.. continue like this!

[crudo]

fenril are u ****** ?

maybe try to read, it helps sometimes

[IRONBRAH]

Free courier? oh lawd

[sht3f]

-1 on this patch but hey maybe u'll reconsider it ! :)

[Zuccinin]

Good change to keeper, but how about make this standard on every hero that summons minions.. aka :balp:,:warb:,:ophe:.

i think you forgot tempest

[toks5]

Nice

[Corpsy]

And a game didn't record...just before the double coin even and games don't record...surprise? I don't think so.

Now DDOS left and it will be a normal double coin weekend.

People can actually be true when they say you do it on purprose, it's not all "bad luck" when it happens at the same event.

[Don_Vito]

Good patch!

[MysticSol]

so makes me wonder why anyone signed up for that free trial of ign if your gonna just sell that warden skin in the shop, i thought i was getting a limited edition skin but turns out that its being sold now?

[Fenril]

fenril are u ****** ?

maybe try to read, it helps sometimes


Yes you should try to read sometimes, it helps

****NOTHING ELSE WORKED****

[IMMvp]

2 couriers every game :(

[NiklasT]

**** s2 the games is not recording **** **** **** S2, EVERY SINGLE PATCH THEY COME WITH IT BRINGS SO ****IGN MANY BUGS

[Pibadi]

NiklasT
Don't be so mad my friend! HoN 3 fix this!

[lazyfarmer]

- All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default
- Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier
- Alchemist Bones' timer is now paused while the hero is dead

All completely unnecessary. More attempts to badly differentiate yourself from DotA.


:keep: Keeper of the Forest
- Treant Dogs are now limited to 2/3/4/5 max. If you summon more than the max the oldest ones will automatically die
- Treant Dogs can no longer attack Towers if they are more than 800 units away from the Keeper

This was completely ****ing unnecessary. Keeper was not broken or even close to it, the only reason this happened was because you bowed down to pressure from noobs who didn't know how to gank / hold TPs / fortify. Jesus.


Can't believe I wasted time and cap updating.


can u just shut up about dota! crappy game. my god

[Cucco]

S2 is a terrible company, why would they make every single alt avatar premium? Are you guys just money hoarders? Why would you even make HoN free to play... Thanks for screwing your entire previous community over. And also... releasing Emerald Warden to the public, the hero I signed up to IGN Prime for that was stated wouldn't be available to anybody else. This is terrible. I can't wait until DOTA 2 beta starts so I don't ever have to play this terrible game again.

[tostronk]

- Re-ordered components for all recipe items so the most expensive items come first. This makes right clicking on an item in the store more useful and less dumb

OH YEAH, I"VE LOST ABOUT 2k GOLD DOING:

'2100 GOLD. HMMMMM OH I KNOW, LET ME GET NULLSTONE - > RIGHTCLICK - > WTF, NOT SUSTAINER, SELL BACK, 900 GOLD LOST'

or

'2100 GOLD. HMMMMM OH I KNOW, LET ME GET NULLSTONE - > RIGHTCLICK - > WTF, NOT SUSTAINER, PUT BACK IN STASH, SEPARATE, NO SELL-BACK ALLOWED 900 GOLD LOST'

FUUUUUUUUUUU

[lazyfarmer]

The best idea that I can come up is, sell Heroes of Newerth or even entire S2 Games to Google or Valve or Microsoft. They can do a better job than you people who are currently calling themselves "Game Developers".


hahah and you keep playing
keep coming back to the fomums
I think they are doing a awesome job and btw
VALVE ****ING valve, dota 2 looks bad and is so slow pasted and those you where like " pro" played like my grandma, ,my god. Prob some Dota 1 guys.
if you killed someone on those laggy servers vs people who where clueless about what the heroes did and such, no reason to call yourself pro.
so If blizzard made wardcraft which sucks balls, and valve made dota 2 that sucks blue waffle. Then i prefer S2

[redemption99]

Nice patch S2 :D

[NiklasT]

[SGCR]lazyfarmer **** off gay (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=80666)
S2 sucks and im sure someone else could create a better game, pleeeeeeeeeeease note i did not say that I can do a better game but s2 fails so please stfu and dont defend em
(http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=80666)

[NiklasT]

redemption99 (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=433410) **** u 2 gay
on the run anyways so why not say this to u 2. F u c k asslickers

[Hiros]

hate those s2-fanboys who dont know what this patch is all about, just loving it for s2 making it
i dont know, i am not someone who hates everything s2 did, but i try to see what is all about, try to have a clear vision about the patches, tweaks and changes, and im not against new changes/things, but some things arent sth that had to be done... srsly
if s2 would once listen to someone with common sense *sigh

[Ashlan]

again ,the same update problems of every week, sick

[MysticSol]

As long as i don't see a title "former gold avatar exclusive", i am ok with it.

Nah i think they might i mean after all they did say ign exclusive and now they are selling it, which was the only exclusive skin i owned and was happy about it but now they decided to change it, reminds me more of just a way for ign to have a chance to get more customers while S2 tells us thats the only way to get it, but loook its in the shop now, what was the point of signing up

[MajorFailure]

Finally a great patch! :D It's been a long time since last time! :D I was going to rant at Plague skin costing Gold, but then I see dryad availible! No more MR. Madman, please welcome Mr Happy guy! :D

[Delfic]

I can update just fine on windows 7. Can't help you with that.

The bottle change in my opinion forces you to grab rune control. This has synergy with the courier since now you're more prone to have wards on the start so you can have more rune control. They just buffed rune control with this change.

I believe the nerf to keeper was warranted. I soloed shorlane with him versus 2 and I pushed the lane easy (we had a push strat).

[antzkopf]

Why in hell do I get no response from server or I get a russian that disconnects. Start fixing the issues before makeing alt avatars.

[Locoweed]

Whats the free courier rage about exactly? All it does is help support players feed less by getting more wards and *gasp* an extra 200 gold of items.

Or is your mighty skill and great psr based around some courier strat? :P
I know the ragers don't play support. And bad teams are still going to skip wards anyway.

So whats the problem?

[Yutern]

cant connect to the server again.

[vitlegion]

The patch give me K2 alltime so i cant play the game any more!!!!! ty s2

[Hunty]

Hahaha, OMG!
On a completely unrelated note:

S2 "censored" the use of the *dollar sign*-S2 use.
It just shows as "S2" if you use the dollar sign XD!

LAME!

[``QQ]

haha buff shieldbreaker more pls. gogogoo!

[vitlegion]

CRASH CRASH CRASH
Can't patch!!!111

Same **** here

[Doomhammer]

jesus, another patch full of bugs....
cant rly wait to play dota2

[Aerwynyo]

assist gold, free courier next up free wards and all support heroes gain carry´s xp.

[Anizer]

Omg s2 you are amazing <3

Best patch in ages.

[Su0T]

3000 silver coins new avatar. Almost didn't expect it.

[K04l4]

Can some1 here tell me why each time I try to patch game i got crashed after it is "Completed" and have to patch again to get crashed again.
T-T
plz help me

[SupahNoob]

$2 S2

[Testingrani]

Thanks S2.

Ok, now back to watching the Dota 2 stream.

[RPE]

terrible patch as usual

[TwoStronk]

Sense of balancing = Null... EW is still OP!

[AquaHeart]

When i update it crashes EVERYTIME :@

[``QQ]

same here. and i wont patch this retarded game manual this time. it took me already klike 6hjours unpacking all the last patches manualy.

and i got killed by this Emeral Warden bug like 40times. and as he was released there wanst such a bug s2 is patching bugs in the game jsut to fix these bugs with the next patcxh.

[RainOfChaos]

basicly good changes but noob mode is now on... why not put 4 wards into the courrier? -.-

[Mr`Swagger]

Anyone else having problems with the new patch? i can't update without chrasing....

[SergioVanee]

I cant update,crash every time

[MojoSpirit]

terrible patch as usual

I love when these nerds cry all day about S2 and HoN but play more then any of us and always on forums. Hurr Durr I hate my boyfriend but I still lick his ass everynight coz I'm a ****n retard. Just leave nerd go to your dota2 abomination.

[Vezuvius]

Impossible to update crash all the time .

[Quickie]

Are all new alt avatars going to be 600 gold?

[kalsoni]

Omg s2 you are amazing <3

Best patch in ages.

ACK!

@updateProblem: check this out:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=219825