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Bludgar
10-12-2009, 06:20 PM
There's another strategy guide out there for Puppet Master, but I'd like to submit one that increases your damage output quickly. Following this will help immensely in last-hitting, clearing creep waves, taking out towers, and being a great pusher. However, this build isn't for the timid. Any disabler becomes dangerous because you won't have a lot of health.

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ActionTarget EntityTypeEnemy Units
Type: Magic
Range: 600
Radius: 400
Cast Time: 1.7 Seconds
Mana Cost: 115 / 140 / 165 / 205
Cooldown: 14.0 Seconds
Required Level: 1 / 3 / 5 / 7
Activation
Applies Puppeteer's Hold to target for 3 / 3.75 / 4.5 / 5.25 seconds. Target is constantly pushed toward the position he was at when Puppeteer's Hold was applied. If the target moves too far from this location, it will be forced back to the original position.
Status Effect
-10 / -15 / -20 / -25 Attack Speed

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Type: Magic
Range: 700
Radius: 250 / 300 / 350 / 400
Cast Time: 1.7 Seconds
Mana Cost: 125 / 140 / 155 / 170
Cooldown: 30.0 / 28.0 / 26.0 / 24.0 Seconds
Required Level: 1 / 3 / 5 / 7
Activation
Applies Craze Puppet to target for 2.5 / 3 / 3.5 / 4 seconds. If target comes within a 250 / 300 / 350 / 400 radius of any unit while Craze Puppet is active, it will be forced to attack that target until Crazy Puppet wears off.
Craze Puppet Effects
Forced to attack closest unit in a 250 / 300 / 350 / 400 radius. All attacks are non-lethal. Will target ally heroes first, then allied creeps, then closes unit within 400 range.

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ActionPassive
6 / 12 / 18 / 24% Base Damage
Required Level: 1 / 3 / 5 / 7
On Attack
On every 5th attack, attacks do 125 / 150 / 175 / 200% normal damage and apply 25 / 50 / 70 / 100% splash damage in radius of 200. When not attacking, will reduce charges by 1 every 12/10/8/6 seconds (meaning at rank 4, if you're at 5 charges, your first hit will be a 200% damage hit in 24 seconds if you're not attacking)

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ActionTarget EntityTypeEnemy Units
Type: SuperiorMagic
Range: 600
Cast Time: 1.7 Seconds
Mana Cost: 150 / 200 / 250
Cooldown: 150.0 Seconds
Required Level: 6 / 11 / 16
Activation
Spawns a Puppet near self that is linked to target.

Any damage taken by the Puppet is transferred in full to the target as Magic damage, regardless of the Puppet's remaining health. Damage is reduced by magic armor, but will go through magic immunity.

The Puppet has a maximum health of 450 / 700 / 950 and takes 160 / 180 / 210% damage.

Lasts until target gets more than 1500 units away from spawned Puppet, or until Puppet is killed.

Skill Build for Glass Cannon:
1. Puppet show (1)
2. Whiplash (1)
3. Whiplash (2)
4. Puppeteer's Hold (1)
5. Whiplash (3)
6. Voodoo Puppet (1)
7. Whiplash (4)
8. Puppet show (2)
9. Puppet show (3)
10. Puppet show (4)
11. Voodoo Puppet (2)
12. Puppeteer's Hold (2)
13. Puppeteer's Hold (3)
14. Puppeteer's Hold (4)
15. Stats
16. Voodoo Puppet (3)
17+. Stats

Why the build as it is: Puppet show is taken first in case you have an enemy who is getting cheeky and wants to try to gank you down. From there on, max out your whiplash. +24% base damage overall and +200% damage is going to help you farm so you can afford all the shiny toys you want. At level 4, when you need to pick something other than whiplash, you take puppeteer's hold in case you have the chance to get a quick kill. We'll cover strategies more later on.

Item build (Note: This will leave you extremely fragile, so make sure you know how to avoid a gank):



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Starting items - punch dagger, runes of blight. I would not advocate this build for any other hero. I'm usually conservative and build stat items first always, but ever since I've started my puppet with this, I've gotten a lot more kills early game. However, you sacrifice a lot for the +9 damage, namely health. When you take this item to start, always keep your health above 60%.




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First items - (punch dagger above) + gloves of the swift + marchers = enhanced marchers. with your first 1k gold. If you're last-hitting well, this will only take you a couple of minutes and will provide a nice little damage boost, attack speed boost, and allow you to chase/flee before most people even have their marchers. By the time you get these, you'll be dishing out 100 damage in just under 1 second attacks.




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Second Item - steamstaff + bastard sword + recipe = assassin's shroud. You're really fragile and you need an escape mechanism early on. When you get this, you'll be doing about 150 damage per attack at slightly over 1 attack per second. Also, even if they have a way to reveal you (i.e. pestilence), activating boots + shroud gives you 475 speed and unitwalking. Important: Activating shroud then boots will take you out of shroud. Always activate boots first. A lot of people think shroud is a waste on puppet, but I can tell you that it's saved me at least 3 deaths every game, if not more. This is a situational item depending on the competency of the enemy team, how well they chase, whether they carry dust or not, etc. In my experience (no, I NEVER play EM games), if there's no Scout or Night Hound on your team, the enemy will not usually bother bound eyes, and will rarely buy dust or invis detect wards. Remember to keep a cool head during fights. If you see your health start dropping, move to the outskirts where you can still deal damage, but run if necessary.




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Alternative Second Item: steamstaff + neophyte's book + recipe = tablet of command. A viable escape mechanism that will also help out fleeing teammates, tablet of command is a great little blink item. In addition to that, if there's a pesky hero staying just out of reach of your tower, the 800 range on this is perfect to surprise them and push them towards you, when you can then hold and puppet show them.



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Another Alternative Second Item: hungry spirit + recipe = eldar's parasite. This is an incredibly interesting item. You get 17% lifesteal and, when activated, +100 attack speed and +20% move speed. This allows you to cycle through your whiplash faster. The added movespeed helps in chasing and escaping. The caveat is that you take an extra 30% damage, which makes you even more frail than you already are. If you're going to buy this item, you need to exercise extreme caution. It will help you take out creep waves and towers quicker, but if you use it against a hero, make sure that hero can't attack you back. Ideally, you'll activate this, run in, and cast a puppet show on an enemy, then do as much damage to them as possible.




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Third item - punch dagger, broadsword, recipe = riftshards. You'll have over 200 damage and the possibility to crit your opponent, even on a 400 damage whiplash. Leave this at level 1 until after you build your shieldbreaker.




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Fourth Item: warhammer + warhammer + recipe = shieldbreaker. This should make you a god on the battlefield. By the time you get this, you'll have nearly 300 damage per hit. Creep waves are gone in a single whiplash, which just fuels your gold pool. I usually have the highest creep kill count of anyone by the end of the game while spending the least amount of time in lane. By this point, your team is doing well and you're about to end the game or your team is doing poorly and you're carrying it with your damage alone. But that's okay, because your skills make you a powerhouse. Note: This is a situational item that is most useful mid-game. However, even late game, when used in conjunction with other armor-reducing skills (provided by your teammates), you'll get plenty of use out of it. If one of your teammates is announcing that they're building this, go for a Harkon's Blade instead.




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Fifth item: slash + blessed orb + recipe = geometer's bane. Whiplash is inherited by your illusions, so if you're doing 300 (600 on whiplash) damage per hit, your illusions are doing 100 (200 on whiplash). Few can stand up to that onslaught. In the words of one player "Finally, every dps build requires geometer's bane in there somewhere: after a certain point its impossible to match the dps increase two illusions give you."




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Sixth item: great arcana x3 = hellflower. Puppeteer's hold + hellflower = dead hero. This item adds 60 damage, some good mana and mana regen, and a nice little attack speed boost. I've rarely gotten to the point where I've farmed for this because the game was usually over by this time. If you have a truly competent team, then you can steamroll a 5vs5 in a matter of seconds.




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Alternative Sixth Item: great arcana + acolyte's staff + recipe = Harkon's Blade. If you're not against a magic-immune-intensive team, this is an excellent item to have. It drains 100 mana per attack, lowers their magic resistance, and turns your regular attacks into magic attacks. The downside is that if someone gets a shaman's headdress, this item is somewhat negated. This is a situational item. While it can sometimes be a bad pick, one thing to keep in mind is that adding to magic armor is finite, whereas a good AGI carry will naturally have higher regular armor, making Harkon's Blade more useful in the long run than shieldbreaker.




Strategies:
Early game in lane - There's a couple of different things to do here. If your enemy is getting a lot of denies but you're not and they're sticking too close to the creeps (in hopes of luring you in to nuke you), you can use your remaining creeps to kill your enemy. As they last-hit deny, run in for a puppet show where they have to face the creep wave. Then cast a puppeteer's hold on them and fire away. If you can, cast your ult too and try to finish them off. If they get away, DON'T CHASE. You're fragile and susceptible to ganking. Another strategy is to get last hits on the creeps, but hit the enemy hero with a whiplash. This is a great strategy if you're up against a melee hero because you can easily take 100 hp (after dam redux) every time you do it for no mana cost. Bide your time and save your mana for when you really need it.

Early-mid game - RUN! You're still building your set. Jump lanes to help gank IF you're sure your team can at least get a kill off. Keep your eyes open for a double damage rune on the river because a whiplash effectively gives you a 4x damage shot. Otherwise, stay in your lane and make sure your teammates are calling misses. If someone is missing, hug your tower. Remember that you can turn a bad chase situation into a kill if they get in range of your tower and you get a hold or a show on them while turning around to wail on them from behind.

Mid-game - By mid-game, you should be out-damaging everyone, period. Avoid chasing and keep out of range of disablers. You should have at least an assassin's shroud and enhanced marchers, so if the situation gets rough, get back. My experience is that if you don't have an invis-heavy team, your enemies won't bother with getting a bound eye. Worse they'll do is get dust and your should be out of range when they activate that anyway.

Late game - Late game carries will be catching up and surpassing you damage-wise. Since they'll need a tank, they usually won't be traveling alone. This is perfect for you because you can cast puppet show on their carry and puppeteer's hold on their tank and wail on the tank for an easy kill.

Pushing - Because of your high-damage output and splash radius, you should have no problem guiding a creep wave to the tower for a quick take-down. Your whiplash also triggers on towers, which means it'll fall that much faster. This makes you a great mid/late game pusher.

Problems you'll encounter:

-If you're having trouble surviving early game, a single fortified bracelet will usually do the trick for a bit of an hp boost.

-Against a well-organized team, you'll often be the first target. If you find yourself dying a little too often, farm a shrunken head. Your greatest strength lies in not getting disabled because of the damage you can do. You should never be in the center of the fight, but at the outskirts, close enough to unload your spells and wreak havoc with your attack.

-Invis units make it seem like your spells disappear, but the enemy is still there, whether held with Puppeteer's Hold or attached to a Voodoo Puppet. This is a pain when dealing with scout, nighthoud, madman, etc. Carrying some dust is a great idea so that you can quickly refocus on your enemy.

-You skills have slow cooldowns, so be cool and think before you cast something on someone. If you and/or your team won't be able to finish the kill, it's better not to waste the spells. All it takes is practice and patience to know the precise moment when you'll be able to seal the fate of your enemy.

-Disablers are your worst enemy. Avoid getting stunned at all costs, because the moment you're not dishing out damage, you're completely useless and it can mean the difference between your team winning or losing the fight.

rpg711
10-12-2009, 06:23 PM
Spruce it up with images... it may be a decent guide but nobody will read it if it is just a huge wall of text.

Miyazi
10-12-2009, 06:27 PM
Soo.. The standard puppet build, only you sacrifice early game survivability :/

10-12-2009, 07:33 PM
No Harkon's Blade?

Its a great item for Puppet, and is almost a core as he ultimately decimates the entire enemy team.

Isin
10-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Why do people get shroud on puppet master... such a waste of money.

Bludgar
10-12-2009, 07:40 PM
Spruce it up with images... it may be a decent guide but nobody will read it if it is just a huge wall of text.

Will do.



Soo.. The standard puppet build, only you sacrifice early game survivability :/

What do you suggest? Unless you're doing a behemoth's heart, there's no point. I can build that in as a suggested item, though.


Why do people get shroud on puppet master... such a waste of money.

The reason to get shroud is survivability with the benefit of some added damage. It's relatively cheap to farm and the movement boost helps me get some distance on people. This, in my opinion, supports the "glass cannon" mentality while not really sacrificing an item spot.


No Harkon's Blade?

Its a great item for Puppet, and is almost a core as he ultimately decimates the entire enemy team.

I don't quite get the fascination with this item. Magic immunity and +magic armor is pretty easy to come buy. Shieldbreaker is pretty universally awesome and there are a lot of -armor skills your teammates could have. I'll list the blade, but I feel that it's pretty situational and the effects are as easily negated as -armor is.

Sw4n
10-12-2009, 07:40 PM
tablet of command is much better than shroud gold efficiency wise, and harkons is core

Enreign
10-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Enhanced Marchers
Hellflower
Frostwolf Skull
Harkon's Blade
Riftshards
Symbol of Rage

will destroy any and everything without relying on a poor escape mechanism

binbo
10-12-2009, 07:52 PM
<items achieved through impossible farm> will destroy any and everything without relying on a poor escape mechanism.

Enreign
10-12-2009, 08:04 PM
<items achieved through impossible farm> will destroy any and everything without relying on a poor escape mechanism.
Hellflower and Harkon's is all you need

everything else is just to fill the slots

Valk
10-12-2009, 08:09 PM
Personally I start off with 2x pretender crown, 1x minor totem, 2x runes, I buy 3x haste gloves when I'm in the lane, farm gold for alch bone recipe and boots, head back to base and come back for some farm to finish off enhanced marchers, then start working on riftshards, generally getting them to level 4 within 30 minutes max, then start working on harkons.

Seems to work well for me in pretty much every game I've played with puppetmaster, I'd never go for an assassins shroud though, seems like a huge waste, you can already disable 2 heroes to escape, and honestly if there are more than 2 guys on you it's your own fault for being there.

Mogo
10-12-2009, 08:49 PM
Invis units negate your spells. If you have them in a hold or have a voodoo puppet on them, invisibility voids the spells. This is a pain when dealing with scout, nighthoud, madman, etc. Carrying some dust seems to work.


This is incorrect, your puppet will continue to be attached and deal damage to a stealthed target.

Bludgar
10-13-2009, 12:10 AM
This is incorrect, your puppet will continue to be attached and deal damage to a stealthed target.

Each time I've ulted someone that went invis, the puppet strings stretch to infinity off the screen and the puppet disappears from target. Probably a bug.


Personally I start off with 2x pretender crown, 1x minor totem, 2x runes, I buy 3x haste gloves when I'm in the lane, farm gold for alch bone recipe and boots, head back to base and come back for some farm to finish off enhanced marchers, then start working on riftshards, generally getting them to level 4 within 30 minutes max, then start working on harkons.

Seems to work well for me in pretty much every game I've played with puppetmaster, I'd never go for an assassins shroud though, seems like a huge waste, you can already disable 2 heroes to escape, and honestly if there are more than 2 guys on you it's your own fault for being there.


Sorry, but alchemy bones is a waste because it becomes COMPLETELY useless by the time you reach 200 damage per hit. It's a waste of time when you could get the same attack speed from enhanced marchers earlier instead of farming useless bones first.

Though assassins shroud may seem like a waste, it's saved me time and time again, to the point where it's the second item I build.

Dukamok
10-13-2009, 12:38 AM
Enhanced Marchers
Hellflower
Frostwolf Skull
Harkon's Blade
Riftshards
Symbol of Rage

will destroy any and everything without relying on a poor escape mechanism
I lol'd so hard.

Alch is still nice, and Harkon's has its disadvantages but it can be very powerful. Like most items it should be situational, no one has a DEFINITIVE build

ProfOak
10-13-2009, 01:06 AM
Each time I've ulted someone that went invis, the puppet strings stretch to infinity off the screen and the puppet disappears from target. Probably a bug.

Just because they stretch to infinity doesn't mean they don't take damage. I've had this glitch happen many times and I can confirm that you can still hurt enemies even if they are invisible. I've killed several enemies this way and it is quite satisfying. The same goes for Puppet Hold. If they go invisible, they are still attached until the duration is over.

Gabula
10-13-2009, 03:28 AM
Dont see why you would get shieldbreaker as 4th item then Harkons blade as 6th.

Wicory
10-13-2009, 03:33 AM
Needs more elder parasite.

Puchi
10-13-2009, 04:05 AM
I would slam a puppet master playing like this so hard into the groud.. He needs stats at start.

A viable build is 2xpretender 2x totem and blight, it gives you the same +dmg as a pushdagger but also 6+ str = hp.

Also notable is your geting Assasins Shroud as an escape mechanism, waste of gold since any good team will get dust/ward and still kill you. Go portal key if you feel the need for a escape mechanism.

You have no hp items in your build other then geometers bane which you get as 5 item in any game other then total noobstomp EM games you wont even be allowed the riftshard.

This guide is not viable for games of 1500+ psr.

acojan
10-13-2009, 04:29 AM
I have always thought that kuldra was better than hellflower becase is just has a highly superior disable ( slow and silence ) hellflower

plus it gives better mana regen overall (if i remember right) that makes harkon's crazy mana cost not so insane if your up against the whole team during a clash. the dmg and aspd from hellflower are pretty mediocre and i think that boots are all you will need for aspd.. or a wepcleft (i think i spelled it wrong.. hyperstone whatever) if you really need some aspd.

I usually go riftshards lategame for the epic lucky crits when i whiplash -- plus its a good dps item overall ....

Wicory
10-13-2009, 04:39 AM
i never understood why people would get elder parasite on agi heroes... much less int

it doesn't provide amazing damage for its cost (unless you are str) and the burst HP it gives is quickly countered by the degen unless you have lifesteal ... which is pretty crappy on puppet compared to other possible orbs --


Elder parasite isn't the str one with true damage dot on yourself, it gives 100 attackspeed, 20% lifesteal and 20% movespeed and 20% more damage taken


100 attackspeed is gamebreaking for 1.9k total cost, allows you to cycle through to whiplash so much quicker, and the life steal/run speed is a nice bonus should **** hit the fan, but chances are if you're stuck in the middle of a load of them, nothing's going to help. ( the 20% more damage taken makes you respawn quicker!!! )

Puchi
10-13-2009, 05:01 AM
puppet master is bettre played as a support hero rather then dps.

Stranger
10-13-2009, 05:22 AM
I'll leave my item build here for discussion. I never had much trouble with it and it works rather well.

2xPretender Crown
2xRunes of Blight
2xMinor Totem

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Gloves of Swift + Punchdagger + Boots (in that order) = Enchanted Marchers
Punchdagger + Broad Sword + Recipe = Riftshards lvl 1

After that I get:

Elder Parasite (Even tough the 30% increased damage received is harsh, you can activate it to escape together with your marchers to give 475 move speed. +100 attack speed effectively gives you 1.6/1.7 aspeed early/mid game and it's great for both farming and dishing out gargantuan amounts of damage, while healing yourself.)

Then, I proceed to get Riftshards to level 4.

By this time you should be dominating your enemy team but what you want next is:

Thunderclaw (for extra damage since it works wonders with your increased attack speed)

Then I make charged hammer. And only finally I proceed to make a shieldbreaker.

That's my build.

You might disagree with it, but I like it and that's what I always build as puppet master. (Unless some very specific item is needed for survival)

FuzzyWuzzy
10-13-2009, 07:30 AM
Assasin's Shroud is a terrible item on Puppet.

If you need survivability you should buy Shrunken Head.

Also, buying Shieldbreaker late game is a waste of gold. It shines mid-game when armor is not that high. Late game your are better off with Hellflower / Riftshard upgrades.

Suiraclaw
10-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Build if you have another (semi) carry:
- start stats + runes
- get 2 gloves of the swift from outpost
- marchers and complete alchemist bones
- steamboots or enhanced marchers
- totem of kuldra
- harkon's blade (boosts his damage a lot more than shieldbreaker for mana you don't need anyway)
- riftshards or shrunken head

Sirupsen
10-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Awesome way to build a guide.

More! :D

Capricious
10-17-2009, 10:47 PM
2 Bracers
Enh Marchers
Hellflower
Eldar
Riftshards


puppet master is bettre played as a support hero rather then dps.

Get out...

Lighthouse
10-17-2009, 11:03 PM
Hellflower and Harkon's is all you need

everything else is just to fill the slots

this, you don;t need all of fancy items you listed. Those two are really only you needed. Anything else, with exception of shroud (for escape), is optional and luxury.


From related thread....

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Quite realistic yet very damaging build.

phase boots = 1500
2x bracers = 1020
hellflower = 5025 (alt: charged Hammer 5500)
Harkon's blade = 5100
Homecoming stones for last slot.


Total cost is 12645 gold. If you have really tough game, hardly able to farm....

Phase boots = 1500
2x bracers = 1020
Elder parasite = 1900
Shield breaker = 4400
Homecoming stones for last slot.

Total cost is 8800. And after these try getting core items (hellflower, Harkon's blade) Charged hammer won't be needed since elder parasite will give you burst attack speed increase.

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Actually, hellflower is extremely easy to farm since the most expensive component is 900 gold, so even if you die a lot you can somewhat manage to farm this if you spend your gold right away when you got 900 gold (or 450, 325)

Harkon's blade without doubt is the MOST damaging item. You just don't feel it until you try once. After that you will realise you don't need other pure damage item to three-shots ppl.

Lighthouse
10-17-2009, 11:05 PM
No Harkon's Blade?

Its a great item for Puppet, and is almost a core as he ultimately decimates the entire enemy team.

It IS core item.

EnragedCamel
10-18-2009, 01:15 AM
This build will only work in noob games.

EnragedCamel
10-18-2009, 01:17 AM
puppet master is bettre played as a support hero rather then dps.

Incorrect.

Geometry
10-18-2009, 11:35 AM
If you go for Harkon's, you absolutely have to get either Hellflower or Hex. Hellflower is probably more optimal, since it's actually a DPS item, but Hex provides good DPS and the on use is so much more useful, plus it provides HP. Either way, you need some regen to support the mana needed for the Harkon's Blade

Cyrulaen
01-26-2010, 04:34 PM
The idea behind Assassins Shroud is to be a one-hit wonder with your ult. it takes the extra dmg from shroud (125) and adds whiplash's +200% to it, so you hold someone, cycle to whiplash, ult them, and Shroud and blast the puppet. At level 9 ish ive done 600-700 + crits, which amplifies again through the puppet

Its quite nice.

laserblade
01-26-2010, 05:11 PM
Ewww why you necro-bump?
This guide is outdated.

Riftshards dont stack anymore.

R4GE
01-27-2010, 03:38 PM
From what I know, this guide is all wrong...

Get:
1x Exile
1x Ghost Marchers
1x Whispering Helm (start stacking ancients early)
1x Harkons Blade (owns since recent patch)
1x Shrunken Head (useful on pretty much every carry)
1x Symbol of Rage...I dunno lol
1x Geometer's Bane/Behe Heart depending on what you need (dps/survivability)...I guess...

Riftshards sucks coz u alredy have a crit.
Good players will generally get dust to counter assassins.
Elder parasite sucks coz ur already squishy enough and lifesteal doesnt stack.
Shieldbreaker + Harkons is retarded coz SB weakens physical armor while Harkons does magic damage??

R4GE
01-27-2010, 03:39 PM
puppet master is bettre played as a support hero rather then dps.

Also, as far as I know (correct me if Im rong) pm is now considered a hard carry.