TwitchTV $5,000 HoN Challenge

[Nome]

http://i.imgur.com/yV8g8.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5otYGImQKBY)

Beyond Gaming and Twitch.tv have combined forces to bring you one of the most massive HoN tournaments ever!

Four qualifiers comprised of 256 teams each combine for a staggering total of 1024 slots for teams to compete over the highly-coveted Final 16 main event!

With their dashing new website (currently in beta), Beyond Gaming is going all-out to make this event the colossus that will prove their skill in organizing HoN events, setting a new standard in how tournaments are presented and followed on the web.

Twitch.tv is the new game streaming platform from media giant justin.tv, and with Honcast preparing to cast this event there is sure to be plenty of onscreen action to keep everyone entertained.

Signups are already open, and the first qualifier begins this Saturday, August 6th at 9am PST / 18.00 CET. There's no entrance fee, so bring four buddies and your A-game! Even if you're not signing up, be sure to tune into Honcast when they start broadcasting this event of epic proportions.

Information and Registration: Beyond Gaming (http://www.beyondgaming.com/page/twitchtvhon)
Registration Difficulties? Check out this instructional video! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wNtgYBVgPY&feature=player_embedded)

[Shouta]

Well thats nice for small Teams, good luck with that!

[ProxxNL]

Good to see HoN is promoting themselves still. :)

PS. 3rd

[befiglonia]

guess "$5,000" is a typo, right? Everybody knows its a $5,000,000 price pool!

[natiko]

first page i pressume? nice one

[RayMartin]

5000$

lol

[Felathar]

5000? thats what I spend monthly in candies....

[GhettoJesus]

5k is not bad for an open tournament.

I'd promote more open tournements if I was in charge. These things are the real comps of skill, as you'll get players from all corners using hopefully a wide variaty of playstyles and team setups.

And don't forget!! To anyone thinking of comparing this to the other august moba tournement. This is an open affair, the other one is closed off and consists mostly of pre-selected asian teams with just a few european representing. Something I find quite appauling.

[Felathar]

5k is not bad for an open tournament.

I'd promote more open tournements if I was in charge. These things are the real comps of skill, as you'll get players from all corners using hopefully a wide variaty of playstyles and team setups.

And don't forget!! To anyone thinking of comparing this to the other august moba tournement. This is an open affair, the other one is closed off and consists mostly of pre-selected asian teams with just a few european representing. Something I find quite appauling.

Lets be realistic is not that S2 can do much to compete against Valve anyway. 5000 is ok for a small company as S2. Valve just claimed GG before they released the game. I think Malish it is gonna have to sell his kindney if he wants to have a tourney for more than 200.0000 USD. The botton line is even if DOTA2 is not that good as a game it will win anyway just because is Valve. I feel bad for S2....

[BlakeDarko]

did u hear that first place at gamescom for dota2 is 1 million?

[vICTORIOUS]

So what happend to the stats from 29 july?

[GhettoJesus]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.

[NihaoShao]

Valve is doing a tourney for 200 times that amount. You ok S2?

[Felathar]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.

Still is a huge marketing move if you ask me. 1.000.000 usd is nothing for valve and they are gonna get ten times more in return. Thats what S2 suck at... good publicity

[Frustian]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.

It's because Valve wanted to make dota 2 a success competitively. Those chinese teams playing dota etc. are already making their living off of playing dota, and getting lots of money from it already. If valve didn't step up and put the cash out there up front, the teams would not have any incentive to move to dota 2. Even if dota 2 prizes were the same as dota 1 prizes they probably wouldn't switch, as why go into a new game, when you have guaranteed income in the one you are playing right now. It's a job for them, they don't care about better graphics.

Making the invitational was a great idea, as such a large prize pool ensures not only that top dota teams are going to compete in dota 2, but that they are going to learn, and practice dota 2 thoroughly for a month or so, and it will make it a lot easier for them to move to dota 2 when it releases, which essentially means as long as valve doesn't **** up hardcore with the game, top dota teams will move to dota 2.

Also, they are streaming pre-release footage of the top dota players playing one of the most anticipated games this year. I'm sure they are going to be making some money back from the ads during the tournament.

[Penguinated]

kewl

[NmE]

I see your 5 grand..

And raise you 995 grand !

[Felathar]

It's because Valve wanted to make dota 2 a success competitively. Those chinese teams playing dota etc. are already making their living off of playing dota, and getting lots of money from it already. If valve didn't step up and put the cash out there up front, the teams would not have any incentive to move to dota 2. Even if dota 2 prizes were the same as dota 1 prizes they probably wouldn't switch, as why go into a new game, when you have guaranteed income in the one you are playing right now. It's a job for them, they don't care about better graphics.

Making the invitational was a great idea, as such a large prize pool ensures not only that top dota teams are going to compete in dota 2, but that they are going to learn, and practice dota 2 thoroughly for a month or so, and it will make it a lot easier for them to move to dota 2 when it releases, which essentially means as long as valve doesn't **** up hardcore with the game, top dota teams will move to dota 2.

Also, they are streaming pre-release footage of the top dota players playing one of the most anticipated games this year. I'm sure they are going to be making some money back from the ads during the tournament.

Pretty much this... but knowing Icefrog and Valve you think they are gonna risk ****ing up? They don't play that way..

[sushi_x]

$5k for first place or $5k total? LoL

[Styne]

5k is not bad for an open tournament.

I'd promote more open tournements if I was in charge. These things are the real comps of skill, as you'll get players from all corners using hopefully a wide variaty of playstyles and team setups.

And don't forget!! To anyone thinking of comparing this to the other august moba tournement. This is an open affair, the other one is closed off and consists mostly of pre-selected asian teams with just a few european representing. Something I find quite appauling.
This!

[Radov]

I see your 5 grand..

And raise you 995 grand !

This guy knows best

+1 for awesome post

[Styne]

$5k for first place or $5k total? LoL
It's a 5k prize pool. Now, use those brains and try to figure out what exactly that means. You can do it!

[sushi_x]

It's a 5k prize pool. Now, use those brains and try to figure out what exactly that means. You can do it!


I wonder what first place will get then. DotA 2 prize pool is $1.6 million, but people only mention $1 million for first place because it's... $1 million! If $5k is split into 8 teams, that is pennies when compared to DotA 2.

[Noxulus]

What is 5,000 / 1,000,000 ? The difference between a sinking ship and a boat (i'm on).

[LUC3NT]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.
its the top 16 teams, its not dota or valve's fault no american team can compare.

[Dina]

1 mil still seems like an excess to me. I don't know Dota 1 prices in Chinese tournaments, but the Starcraft 2 winner of MLC last weekend walked away with 50.000. You really think those teams wouldn't come for 50.000, a chance to play Dota 2 early and get the name of the sponsor out on the largest game convention in Europe. 1 mil surely makes people's heads turn, but I reckon having the 16 biggest Dota 1 teams would do so as well.

Sure it's Valve and they're made of money and the Chinese CMM teams was recently acquired for 6 million dollars. But it still seems like a waste of money when the same could have been accomplished with a fraction.

And I honestly don't get the people getting all excited about the price-pool. Unless you are in one of the 16 teams and you probably aren't, why should you care. It's cool that the teams play, but they would have come for far less. And you're deluding yourselves into thinking that other tournaments that you might attend are going to follow the same pricepool.

[Frustian]

1 mil still seems like an excess to me. I don't know Dota 1 prices in Chinese tournaments, but the Starcraft 2 winner of MLC last weekend walked away with 50.000. You really think those teams wouldn't come for 50.000, a chance to play Dota 2 early and get the name of the sponsor out on the largest game convention in Europe. 1 mil surely makes people's heads turn, but I reckon having the 16 biggest Dota 1 teams would do so as well.

Sure it's Valve and they're made of money and the Chinese CMM teams was recently acquired for 6 million dollars. But it still seems like a waste of money when the same could have been accomplished with a fraction.

And I honestly don't get the people getting all excited about the price-pool. Unless you are in one of the 16 teams and you probably aren't, why should you care. It's cool that the teams play, but they would have come for far less. And you're deluding yourselves into thinking that other tournaments that you might attend are going to follow the same pricepool.

1mil for a team, is 200k per person for a team of 5, less if they have any subs they are paying, plus the sponsor may be taking a cut of the winnings. I don't know what chinese dota teams are making either, but there is a LOT more money in asian e-sports than there is in american e-sports. I would look at asian tournaments for reference points for tournament winnings rather than MLG.

The difference is, making it a 50k prize pool tournament might get some top teams to sign up and play dota 2, but in all liklihood, they won't take that much time out of their dota 1 schedule to practice dota 2. They'll probably play it for a day or 2, then show up at the tournament and run a dota 1 strat. A huge prize pool means that they are really going to want to win, and will be dedicating as much time as possible to learning as much about dota 2 as they can.

[Tamuz]

awesome stuff :D

[Yates12]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.
Demon is from the US. GG

[LUC3NT]

the 1mill is to attract all players attention. It obviously is working here and probably on every other dota style genre.

[Testingrani]

Hope S2 keeps on barraging more leagues and events with HoN tournaments.

The effort might be a bit too late now but if HoN does overtake LoL using this method, it would be something worth taking note.

Good job S2!
Hope you do more to get your game out there and introduce changes to help new players to the Dota genre learn HoN better and faster. (Bots could help)

[Rica]

wen u are going to turn of the ea **** ?

[Dragonslejer]

Minimum 4 characters to register? GL Era.

[Yurixy]

only 5k for 1024 teams ? O.o'

[Human_Robot]

Does anyone else read this news and just think it sounds pathetic?

[knallfrosch]

1024 teams. Even if they have enough admins etc, you'd still get mass default wins because people just don't care. Why play through those qualifiers, just to get stomped by any team with a name?

[nickgb]

You guys are all idiots. S2 isn't the one paying the 5K out, it's Twitch.tv, which is hosting the tournament. Comparing this to Dota 2's massive showcase tournament makes absolutely no sense.

[MoDuZzz]

the pool should have been 6800 $ just for the lulz

[Belmondo]

you guys go ahead and play in that 1mln tournament ... oh wait you cant

so cut this bullshit comparing some inaccessible public stint with a tourney for everyone

[jorge69696]

you guys go ahead and play in that 1mln tournament ... oh wait you cant

so cut this bullshit comparing some inaccessible public stint with a tourney for everyone

You seem butthurt. Take this :HealthPotion:.

[Boet]

OMFG this is awesome... oh wait I thought it said $1M usd, nvm - bai

[Anchovies]

Valve really has everyone dangling by the puppet strings with this marketing ploy.

[kslghost]

Still is a huge marketing move if you ask me. 1.000.000 usd is nothing for valve and they are gonna get ten times more in return. Thats what S2 suck at... good publicity

Simply untrue that they will make an additional $10,000,000 because of this marketing. Gaming companies believe it's all about marketing, but legacy and word of mouth sell games for true profitability. People who want DotA2 already know about it. When word comes out that it's good/bad, that will determine its success rate.

[apm120]

why bother entering when MSI is going to win

You don't need to make a tournament like this, S2. That's just asking really hard to be mocked because of the DotA 2 1 million tournament.

Just stop lieing to us and we will be faithful customers. No 6800 bullshit and no EA ingame powers bullshit.

[ArnoldRimmer]

this is pretty lol all things considered

[Tucker_]

$5,000 that you have a shot at winning

vs

$1,000,000 you can only dream of.


There are companies that turn over billions every year, that doesn't stop me running my 120k/yr business does it?

Stop being douches.

[`Fluttershy]

5k is 1/200th of what the dota2 tournament is. good job s2.

[LOBSTERGUY]

5k is 1/200th of what the dota2 tournament is. good job s2.
Except anyone can win this 5k when nobody in hon will even ever touch that 1mill check

[man_guy]

did u hear that first place at gamescom for dota2 is 1 million?

Did you hear that the prize money is from marketing and average DotA tournaments won't even come close to touching that in the future?

[DMGotty]

S2 states this as one of the most massive

Valve puts ther $1mil next to who is sponsoring their hardware...

$2 getting qrushed like their shitty game

[DMGotty]

Did you hear that the prize money is from marketing and average DotA tournaments won't even come close to touching that in the future?

Did you hear that the above statement is using anecdotal evidence and holds little ground anyways?

[Onkelffs]

I would look at asian tournaments for reference points for tournament winnings rather than MLG.


Show me.


5k is 1/200th of what the dota2 tournament is. good job s2.

Last time I checked S2 Games were a small indie developer studio.

While Valve was a developer that had Sierra Studios as a publisher initially, the great success came with Counter-Strike a playermade mod. After that it took some years before they experimented with Steam as their own distribution service. Steam is now taking a good chunk of the PC Market when it comes to sales. Valve has thus been it's own publisher for the latest game and recieving even bigger share of the revenue, with only getting help by EA to push out some physical copies.

So the small-time farmer that have just getting started vs the big corporated farmer that have pushed other out of the picture in the industry.

It's funny that people think that S2 is so rich when they are a true indie studio with no more investors than Maliken.

I'm excited that E-sports is getting bigger prize pools and I will try the grand beta this fall in DotA2. Until then I don't know if I will get, also if I get it I don't know if I will stop play HoN.

[Onkelffs]

S2 states this as one of the most massive

Valve puts ther $1mil next to who is sponsoring their hardware...

$2 getting qrushed like their shitty game

Dude, learn to read - please. 1028 teams vs 16 teams. Yeah it's a massive open tournament.
That's 5140 participants vs 80 participants.

[qazqazqaz]

Can any moderator clean up this thread and delete these dota kids?

[mtK]

What is 5,000 / 1,000,000 ? The difference between a sinking ship and a boat (i'm on).

Its 5,000 / 1,600,000....

1 million will get winner and 600,000 will be split with other teams.

[ayoyoayoyo]

the timing is perfect, 4 days after valve announced dota2 will be shown to the public with a tournament where the winner will take a cool million.

$5000 used to be okay good in esports realm, but after dota2 announcement, everything is peanuts in comparison.

[qazqazqaz]

the timing is perfect, 4 days after valve announced dota2 will be shown to the public with a tournament where the winner will take a cool million.

$5000 used to be okay good in esports realm, but after dota2 announcement, everything is peanuts in comparison.

Yea, indeed, no one should ever create tournaments with a prize pool less than 1.6m$. Ever. From now on and ever. Right.

[ayoyoayoyo]

wrong. where did you come up with such stupid idea?

[asarja]

$5,000? So, what, Maliken agreed to skip the clubs this weekend?

[Bamsemums]

Wow, 5k? Really? You guys must be rich. This really make people forget the 1.6mill dollar Valve has for DOTA 2. Gj $2.


Can any moderator clean up this thread and delete these dota kids?
Then it would only be 2 posts left. Including you and the OP.

[Swaggler]

Good thing you gave us a ton of notice on this.

[qazqazqaz]

wrong. where did you come up with such stupid idea?

That was your stupid idea.

[Electrician]

hmm

I might sign up for one of the second and third qualifiers, if i can get some friends to join in

[EEs]

It's an open tournament, 5k is not bad.

Some people have 0 knowledge of e-sport in these forums lol.

[stevefox]

4 qualifiers, 256 teams each? qualifier 1 starts in 2 days and there are only about 50 teams signed up? I'd be surprised if 150 unique teams signed up across all 4 qualifiers combined

[Rydden]

Wanted to play, jus for the fun in being in a tour, but none of my friends wanted to join up so :x

GL all signing up

[lundepwnz]

so ****ing what, people don't care anymore.. two weeks left of your sorry game's existense

[Zeigus]

so ****ing what, people don't care anymore.. two weeks left of your sorry game's existense

Truth.

[delux82]

lol you guys are retarded as always ^^

can anyone of you dota2 fanboys play for the 1,6mill???? No
can you win 5k in this HON Tounament? Yes

[Nekros]

Maybe so, but it seems like a huge waste to give 1 million dollars out when there's only a few teams. That they themselves probably selected, it is also appauling that they're giving out $1,000,000 when there's not a single representive from a country that uses the dollar.

It's just really wierd and almost finiacially suicidal to promote asian markets ahead of western ones, mostly because the chinese game market is very different then western markets.

As always I expect more private pirate servers in that area then legit users. It's how it is for pretty much all popular games.

Not trying to offend any asians. It's just common knowledge that VG black market is pretty much the primary market in those regions. And the government doesn't really care if their citizens rip off american copyrights.

You do realize that it isnt a coincidence that american or canadian teams werent selected right? Frankly we suck. The top dota teams are overseas man and Valve is making the right choice to display their game with the top teams from around the world just happens that none of said teams are based in North America. Btw... Just because it's another country's money doesnt mean that its worthless. If i have 200m yen i'll be richer than u if u had 1m dollars due to exchange rates. This tourney is not localized in anyway and it's purpose is not to create publicity in a localized area like Asia. It's purpose is to give publicity to DOTA 2 on a world scale and Valve is achieving that with a Million Dollar Tourney featuring the best teams from DotA. Also, there is a very good chance that most of the game information will be server side like HoN so hacking, private servers and the like are very unlikely. i hope this clears up your misunderstandings

[Nekros]

lol you guys are retarded as always ^^

can anyone of you dota2 fanboys play for the 1,6mill???? No
can you win 5k in this HON Tounament? Yes
...The point is that the publicity that Valve has generated in this 1 move is greater than what S2 has done since HoN came on the drawing board

[Nekros]

Simply untrue that they will make an additional $10,000,000 because of this marketing. Gaming companies believe it's all about marketing, but legacy and word of mouth sell games for true profitability. People who want DotA2 already know about it. When word comes out that it's good/bad, that will determine its success rate.
It's already gonna be successful... no matter what. I dont give a **** about IceFrog quite frankly but theres 3 reasons why this game is already gonna be a success.

1. Steam Store. Dont need to say anymore bout that
2. Valve brand - Like Blizz, Valve has gained a reputation surrounding everything that comes with their brand. Quality, Success, and Delays (had to put this in cus it's true WHERES EP3!)
3. Of course Ice Frog and the community that he leads is not to be underestimated either.

Valve already has a huge target market and that'll only increase with the combination of what valve brings to the table.

[Nekros]

1 mil still seems like an excess to me. I don't know Dota 1 prices in Chinese tournaments, but the Starcraft 2 winner of MLC last weekend walked away with 50.000. You really think those teams wouldn't come for 50.000, a chance to play Dota 2 early and get the name of the sponsor out on the largest game convention in Europe. 1 mil surely makes people's heads turn, but I reckon having the 16 biggest Dota 1 teams would do so as well.

Sure it's Valve and they're made of money and the Chinese CMM teams was recently acquired for 6 million dollars. But it still seems like a waste of money when the same could have been accomplished with a fraction.

And I honestly don't get the people getting all excited about the price-pool. Unless you are in one of the 16 teams and you probably aren't, why should you care. It's cool that the teams play, but they would have come for far less. And you're deluding yourselves into thinking that other tournaments that you might attend are going to follow the same pricepool.

The point isnt the Tourney itself man, its the publicity. 50k generates some nice publicity already but 1 mill? Thats just a sign for more events of the same scale to come.

[Warzzo]

For how long is the sign up?

[Warzzo]

I hate these damn timeline ****. What time does this tournament start if i live in sweden or serbia?



Round of 256 - 9am PST / 18.00 CET
Round of 128 - 1030am PST / 19.30 CET
Round of 64 - 12pm PST / 21.00 CET
Round of 32 - 130pm PST / 22.30 CET

[Swell`Chall]

Who are admins in this tournament?
I really need to speak to one.

[RCNcoldtea]

...The point is that the publicity that Valve has generated in this 1 move is greater than what S2 has done since HoN came on the drawing board

truth.. but shhh, you may be breaking someone's heart..............

[Halte]

Valve is like god and you are like antsw. Hjur hudurh i want my signature back or i will cry :8

[Edholm92]

Is there any HoN casting going on to this? Would be amazing to see atleast the final 6 matches.

Also I would enjoy more of these tournaments, would bring the smaller clans an opportunity to play more competitive.

[Thenewplague]

I think these free to join tournaments are what hon needs. They give evereybody a chance to get a taste of the competition. Sure 1 million $ would be nice but for an open and free tournament the prize is good enough. Btw would like to join but i dont have a full team yet so if ur is interested contact me pls

[Pyrogen]

5k... vs 1000k

hmmm