The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread

[knowitall]

Cause they picked pudge to f*** around.

Pudge did really well, so I'm not sure why people are trying to blame his pick for the loss.

[Yin`]

Hey yo doombringer(EH.GIGABYTE.FCB) HOHOHO ur retarded butterfly on a str hero HOHOHO no presents for u this year noob lawl he wants damage and gets butterfly hahahaha he doesnt get that str gives damage to str heroes agi gives damage to agi heroes hohohohoho

http://dudelol.com/DO-NOT-HOTLINK-IMAGES/BRAVO-gif.gif

[Pro]

Hey yo doombringer(EH.GIGABYTE.FCB) HOHOHO ur retarded butterfly on a str hero HOHOHO no presents for u this year noob lawl he wants damage and gets butterfly hahahaha he doesnt get that str gives damage to str heroes agi gives damage to agi heroes hohohohoho

He bought it for the evasion, not the AS obviously.
There was a good chunk of physical dps and doom being an massive AOE DPS with Scorched Earth+radiance he wants to tank through fights as long as possible.

[Pixologic]

Hey yo doombringer(EH.GIGABYTE.FCB) HOHOHO ur retarded butterfly on a str hero HOHOHO no presents for u this year noob lawl he wants damage and gets butterfly hahahaha he doesnt get that str gives damage to str heroes agi gives damage to agi heroes hohohohoho

U are a retard...He wanted evasion, dont listen to the stupid broadcasters...He also took a little damage but the main reason was evasion!

EDIT: So, I'm not the only one replying to ur shitty comment...

[ZeeQ]

Cause they picked pudge to f*** around.

Picking Pudge didn't cost them the game, it was letting Doom almost free farm all the time.

[Malaevalos]

evasion?why should a tank needs evasion when he has high max hp + regen hohohoho trolls l2p

[CHerIsh10vE]

one of the greatest games ive seen

[PhuQ]

Picking pudge was the problem he's a pubstomp hero not a comp hero.

[xvoidnessx]

seems like the only the final could bring out some games worth watching/interesting

[Shadowbuq]

They forgot to ban weaver AGAIN!

[Tyrando]

Spectre pick

im'a go cry in a corner for 60 mins, be back for the finish

[ZeeQ]

seems like the only the final could bring out some games worth watching/interesting

Troll?

[Malaevalos]

rofl im bored of seeing this rexxar bin laden

[Shadowbuq]

Na'Vi has a great teamfight potential.

EHOME:

ES-Weaver-Tinker-Windrunner-Maiden

Na'Vi:

Spectre-Chen-Tide-Rex-Enigma

Edit:PLT is on weaver again ffs lol

[ZeeQ]

Not banning weaver was a mistake and will cost Navi the game.

Edit: and he is free farming so far

[Yin`]

They gave EHOME Tinker.

WEAPON X, ENGAGED.



Not banning weaver was a mistake and will cost Navi the game.

Edit: and he is free farming so far

Not necessarily. Spectre outcarries Weaver late game (it's very even, but with the same farm, Spectre will outcarry. However, if EHOME outplays Na'Vi even with same items, it doesn't matter. So the advantage is almost negligible).

[Laserlaku]

evasion?why should a tank needs evasion when he has high max hp + regen hohohoho trolls l2p

1270 mmr talks.

[Shadowbuq]

Just ban weaver and doom as first bans if they do not pick tinker ban him also.

[Tyrando]

dat death sound

[Pro]

BM ultiing a CM=Fail
Not even getting the kill =uberfail

And why dont they put the aegis on spectre? So far Navi doing some big mistakes, think ehome takes this home.

[Tyrando]

can u even still trade Aegis in DotA?

WTF VANGUARD Earthshaker

[Shadeward]

BM ultiing a CM=Fail
Not even getting the kill =uberfail

And why dont they put the aegis on spectre? So far Navi doing some big mistakes, think ehome takes this home.

Spectre can come in after initiation, whereas Beastmaster will be initiating a lot. His aura is also very good for teamfights.

It's a sound strategical deicision.

[Rean]

feeding weaver is the last thing na`vi wants.

well,gg lol. i think its practically over

[rutian]

what i learned from this tournament is that weaver and tinker are highly op'ed.

[Shadeward]

what i learned from this tournament is that weaver and tinker are highly op'ed.

Tinker most certainly is not OP.

[Tyrando]

tinker is just playin really well with hit n run, using his ult to refresh his TP boots allowing him to duck in and out of every single lane

[Kindle]

Tinker most certainly is not OP.
Soul Ring getting refreshed by Tinker's ult is OP.

[`thechamp]

Disagree, I think Na'Vi has the advantadge right now for sure. Enigma + Chen + Tide Hunter + Spectre, their team fight is a lot better.

[Rean]

ya,ehome stopped pressure and na'vi started to steamroll.

[TheDooft]

Spectre & unlimited bb seems pretty lame

[SpikeBolt]

Never seen dota before, really like some of the heroes.

I'd really like Weaver, Enchantress and that ranged keeper guy to show up in newerth :D

[Rean]

gg wp.
spectre unstoppable

[Talak_Hallen]

ehome is getting **** on.

[Shadowbuq]

I'm not sure if my heart can stand through all this ****.

[Shadeward]

Na'Vi too strong a late game teamfight lineup.

GG wp.

[IceFrogisGod]

Spectre & unlimited bb seems pretty lame

It has a 4 minute cooldown tho~

[Sordak]

i mean **** EHOME, EVERY SINGLE GAME they pick weaver and tinker, stupid asians play the same tactic every game.

[Shadowbuq]

GG EHOME this shows that FCB carries EHOME with his doom play.

[Yin`]

Can't give Spectre to anyone, even if you have Weaver. EHOME defeated iG as well, with a Spectre against iG's Weaver.

Spectre does almost the same thing but does more AOE damage through dispersion and is more difficult to kill.

[satyre]

this is so much more entertaining than any hon game. gg navi

[xvoidnessx]

what a final ru and cn - whatever happen real gamers

[Yin`]

Good game Na'Vi. Congratulations. Now it's time for revenge.

[Yin`]

what a final ru and cn - whatever happen real gamers

Actually Na'Vi are from Ukraine mostly but close enough. :D

[Pro]

what a final ru and cn - whatever happen real gamers


ru ?

[Rean]

Good game Na'Vi. Congratulations. Now it's time for revenge.
or double smackdown.
well, i hope ehome wins game 4 and na`vi takes over 5. more exciting.

[RUSty_]

what a final ru and cn - whatever happen real gamers
thats not how you spell m5.

[sushi_x]

Spec with buyback (free relic with gold) > all.

If you don't have first pick, ban Spectre. A farmed Weaver isn't going to do much to a fed Spectre. Tinker did his best to harass him out of the lane, but it didn't worked out so well like the previous matches against an Anti-Mage. Hoping for two more games.

[Shadeward]

EHome going balls to the walls with 3 mid-game gankers.

EDIT : make that 4

[OFQ]

China's tactics are hard coded in the brain.

[Shadowbuq]

Doom again *.*

[Shadeward]

Doom again *.*

Best Hero in DotA 2 when it comes to sound and visual, so I like it.

[OFQ]

Best Hero in DotA 2 when it comes to sound and visual, so I like it.

I'm sure the Chinese are guided by the same motives

[amness]

doom, so it means 2-2?

[Shadowbuq]

Best Hero in DotA 2 when it comes to sound and visual, so I like it.

Puck!

[Pedobear]

ru ?
2 russians 3 ukr :noma:

[Shadeward]

I'm sure the Chinese are guided by the same motives

I know I'll be palying him a lot to hear that badass laugh when he gets a kill.

[Shadowbuq]

Doom isn't that good, there are better glass cannons than him, there are better tanky carries than him, there are better initiators than him, only thing is his ulti.

[Shadeward]

Double blink means no lich ult.

[Shadowbuq]

Na'Vi is bashing EHOME atm, with the blink dagger up on both Slardar and Puck

[amness]

in the end doom wins :]

[Shadeward]

Slardar so strong in mid game. Doom melted like butter.

[xvoidnessx]

gg or what ?

[Tyrando]

why does puck sound like such a girl
i love it

[Shadowbuq]

Doom is just getting picked off pretty quickly.Na'Vi got the melee barracks.

[Shadeward]

why does puck sound like such a girl
i love it

He's a fairy dragon. You expecting Sylvester Stallone or something?

[nuxx`]

time to drop g's

[Pro]

why does puck sound like such a girl
i love it

because Puck is a Faerie Dragon, and Faeries are rather femalish.

[`thechamp]

Na'Vi has much better teamfight than EHOME. I'm not a huge fan of the Sand King pick....Lich I can somewhat understand but I still think CM would have been better.

[amness]

nice raping

[Shadeward]

GG. Na'Vi got the mil.

[Shadowbuq]

GG WP Na'Vi with 1,000,000!

EHOME went home.

[Talak_Hallen]

gg? 4char.

[nuxx`]

Eu takes it home boys

[`thechamp]

Na'vi best Dota 2 team in the world, no arguing that.

[Shadowbuq]

GENOCIDE!

[Pedobear]

gggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[powerofegg]

Eu #1 gg china

[Lungs]

Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[TheDooft]

gg Na`Vi :)

[OFQ]

They were just played with the Chinese. Gave them the first game, what would those not looks so pathetic.

[Shadowbuq]

Gg!!!!!

Na'vi

[Tyrando]

EU Master Race

[ArtVandelay]

g ****ing g

[GreatCHRONOS]

Yin` (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=3253538) Dont suicide please

EU EU EU EU EU EU EU

[Shadeward]

DotA 2 tourney is over.

I'm a sad panda.

[`thechamp]

Dota 2: Ukraine #1, China #2

[Dacaj]

Eu eu eu eu navi eu eu ggggg

[Yin`]

Congratulations to Na'Vi!

Seriously, massive team synergy and amazing plays. Puppeh's Chen is godlike.

EHOME was outplayed, no excuses.

Enjoy the million dollars. :)

[Yukki]

Next year again?? Maybe! GRATZ Na'Vi!!! And Release the beta now already!!

[Shadowbuq]

I want my beta key so badly

[Sordak]

GG ! ha! take that China!
Well played tiny country next to russia!

[Milchstrasse]

Ukraine isnt part of the EU guys.....

[ZeeQ]

Gief Beta this month plz plz plz :(

[Stalkon]

GG WP to Na`Vi! <3

[Yin`]

Yin` (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=3253538) Dont suicide please

EU EU EU EU EU EU EU

No way man. My team got outplayed, pure and simple. It means we weren't good enough. EHOME must improve.

But I will always support my team. I'm not one to hop on bandwagons and support a team team every week like most people it seems.

[ZeeQ]

Next year again?? Maybe! GRATZ Na'Vi!!! And Release the beta now already!!

Both of the casters said there gonna be one next year :)

[Pro]

Ukraine isnt part of the EU guys.....

they aren't in the European Union, but they are European.
When we say EU we mean european, which is correct.

[ZLoBny_LP]

Ukraine isnt part of the EU guys.....
not sure if serious.
Ukraine is a part of Europe. But yes, it is not a part of European Union if you meant that.

[Dyzfunkshun]

Fantastic win for Na'Vi, played absolutely outstandingly, throughout the entire tournament, very very deserving winners. Am really dissapointed the tournament is over, but at the same time, it was definately a success overall, and a fantastic preview of what looks to be a really promising game, and all with the knowledge that this is only DotA2's ALPHA, can only get better from here ^_^

Also great to see really aggressive lineups and strategies paying off so well, the DotA2 metagame seems really well balanced at the moment with a lot of strategies being viable. Congratz to Na'Vi though, hopefully they won't retire on that money! haha

[LiaNNN]

2 russians 3 ukr :noma:
Puppey is Estonian.

[Sordak]

its a part of europe tho....

[Yin`]

Fantastic win for Na'Vi, played absolutely outstandingly, throughout the entire tournament, very very deserving winners. Am really dissapointed the tournament is over, but at the same time, it was definately a success overall, and a fantastic preview of what looks to be a really promising game, and all with the knowledge that this is only DotA2's ALPHA, can only get better from here ^_^

Also great to see really aggressive lineups and strategies paying off so well, the DotA2 metagame seems really well balanced at the moment with a lot of strategies being viable. Congratz to Na'Vi though, hopefully they won't retire on that money! haha

Congratulations to your team.

Looks like Na'Vi is on another level and EHOME couldn't adapt fast enough.

[Razb_]

GG ! ha! take that China!
Well played tiny country next to russia!
lol Ukraine is the biggest country located in Europe

[`thechamp]

IMO Na'Vi is on another level than any other Dota 2 team right now. EHOME is on the second tier and everyone else is on the 3rd tier or lower.

My only "excuse" is that this tournament came at a time when Chinese Dota had no stability, pretty much the 2 unanimous top 2 Dota players in the Chinese scene, ZSMJ and Burning, both didn't attend the event. Not to mention the absence of 2009. Meanwhile, you have a an all-star team in Na'Vi with their top tier talent,facing to a certain extent, some second-tier Chinese talent.

[Milchstrasse]

not sure if serious.
Ukraine is a part of Europe. But yes, it is not a part of European Union if you meant that.

yes thats exactly what i mean. And EU stands for Europinion Union and not for Europe.

[Ellatan]

lol Ukraine is the biggest country located in Europe

Lol, European part of Russia is bigger, also Turkey is bigger if you count it as a part of Europe. Technically it isn't though

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Continents_by_colour.svg/800px-Continents_by_colour.svg.png

[Pro]

Your thinking too complicated. It's simply a shortcut among gamers and always has been EUrope...

[Razb_]

Lol, European part of Russia is bigger, also Turkey is bigger if you count it as a part of Europe.

its only 1/3 part of the Russia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine
It has an area of 603,628 km², making it the largest contiguous country on the European continent

[tywald]

They were just played with the Chinese. Gave them the first game, what would those not looks so pathetic.

Ever heard of winner's bracket?

[Tunen]

2009 wont "attend" in any matches for a long time. He kept/stole a lot of prize money from his team, and the lack of stability is because some got caught with maphack *cough*
Prize money can change lives for a lot of Chinese people, therefore a lot of corruption/cheating going on. Really sad, and i hope Valve has focus on anti-hack so people don't get tempted.

[Dyzfunkshun]

Congratulations to your team.

Looks like Na'Vi is on another level and EHOME couldn't adapt fast enough.
haha, I'd love to call Na'Vi 'my team' (they certainly have been my favourite DotA team ever since they formed), but I called EHOME winning this (before the tournament started), it wasn't until I saw how Na'Vi was playing in the early matches, and the awesome lineups they were using that I started feeling like they were really going to take out the whole thing. I was incredibly happy to see my two favourite teams in the tournament reach the finals though, really couldn't have hoped for much more, EHOME played some really really impressive DotA all throughout the competition, Na'Vi was just in phenomenal form though.

[tumtum100]

/care who is bigger

[epiC_Rage]

lol dota 2 looks exactly like LOL... and it looks so bad and childish, though the engine seems to be powerful, but, nvm... gj, u failed valve.

[GayChristian]

lol at you China haters.

if the tournament is all single elimination, Ehome would've won already, since they basically gave a free win to Navi.

And why the hell would they give a free win to Navi is they claimed the tourney was fair, ho was that even remotely fair lol.

Ehome straight outplayed Navi for most the part, too bad the whole game was rig against Chinese teams, IG lost because Malenisk BDed.

[Yin`]

IMO Na'Vi is on another level than any other Dota 2 team right now. EHOME is on the second tier and everyone else is on the 3rd tier or lower.

My only "excuse" is that this tournament came at a time when Chinese Dota had no stability, pretty much the 2 unanimous top 2 Dota players in the Chinese scene, ZSMJ and Burning, both didn't attend the event. Not to mention the absence of 2009. Meanwhile, you have a an all-star team in Na'Vi with their top tier talent,facing to a certain extent, some second-tier Chinese talent.

All-star lineup doesn't mean victory.

Remember when DTS was on their high? They had Dread as well as NS, and EHOME still crushed them.

When Burning, KingJ, Sharingan, YaphetS and Ksssssss formed DK everyone thought they were going to be THE SH*T and stomp EVERYONE. But then DK started losing to no-name Chinese pubstars ..... it was an embarrassment.

Simply having a star-studded team isn't enough, and while EHOME was second best, they proved (Na'Vi as well) that core stability in a team is the most important thing to winning.

Dendi, Light, and ArtStyle have definitely grown over the past year as players. Hats off to them.

[Pro]

*QQ RAGE*

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/2/0/5/3/zangrychinesebaby.jpg

[Yin`]

haha, I'd love to call Na'Vi 'my team' (they certainly have been my favourite DotA team ever since they formed), but I called EHOME winning this (before the tournament started), it wasn't until I saw how Na'Vi was playing in the early matches, and the awesome lineups they were using that I started feeling like they were really going to take out the whole thing. I was incredibly happy to see my two favourite teams in the tournament reach the finals though, really couldn't have hoped for much more, EHOME played some really really impressive DotA all throughout the competition, Na'Vi was just in phenomenal form though.

If they are your favorite, then they are your team.

I have teams I support across many sports and DotA is an e-sport, so EHOME is "my team."

The player should never be bigger than the team.

Unfortunately, most e-sports viewers don't have this mentality.

I call FC Barcelona "my team" in football. Same thing.

[doucheplayer]

lol dota 2 looks exactly like LOL... and it looks so bad and childish, though the engine seems to be powerful, but, nvm... gj, u failed valve.

and hon looks like a game made in 2004.

and childish? what do you want in the game? boobs, blood, dicks and vajj's?

[X4N]

lol at you China haters.

if the tournament is all single elimination, Ehome would've won already, since they basically gave a free win to Navi.

And why the hell would they give a free win to Navi is they claimed the tourney was fair, ho was that even remotely fair lol.

Ehome straight outplayed Navi for most the part, too bad the whole game was rig against Chinese teams, IG lost because Malenisk BDed.

If it was single elimination ehome would be out. Only giving 1 game to the winners bracket was very generous to who came from losers. IMO it should have been best 2 out of 3 and if ehome won, another 2 out of 3. Like most tournaments are ran.

[Yin`]

Witch_DXH is a sore f*cking loser.

All Chinese teams got beaten fair and square.

All this BS and excuses about Chinese DotA reshuffle, etc, etc.... are EXCUSES.

It's nobody else's fault that the teams who went didn't have Burning, YYF, DGC, YaphetS, KingJ, ZSMJ, 2009, etc, etc.

This only shows that China is not as strong as before and we need to motherf*cking improve and get our sh*t together or else the Euros will keep dominating.

[AethGorr]

Go, go, go Ukraine!!!
A very rare reason to be proud for my countrymen!

[Yin`]

This one's for the Na'Vi fanboys. :)

http://h1813090.stratoserver.net/files/share/21_8_2011/hhpTCDhmUvT05uLz2UAQ.jpg

[Dyzfunkshun]

lol at you China haters.

if the tournament is all single elimination, Ehome would've won already, since they basically gave a free win to Navi.

And why the hell would they give a free win to Navi is they claimed the tourney was fair, ho was that even remotely fair lol.
If you're just trolling then my mistake for getting baited. But...you do understand how winners and losers brackets work right?

[Malaevalos]

This one's for the Na'Vi fanboys. :)
You are we todd it.You are sofa king we todd it.

[sushi_x]

Congrats to Na'Vi. China may be good at DotA 1, but Na'Vi has shown they are better at DotA 2. A couple notes tho: China teams got reshuffled and were not stable, LGD did not attend/were disbanded, 46 hero pool left out some heroes such as Lycan and Syllabear which made some strats stronger and other strats less viable. I'm not discrediting Na'Vi's win, but there were certainly some factors that favored them. I knew that the Chinese might not win this thing because DotA 2 is a new game still in alpha stages and they have not practiced and were not accustomed to it enough. Na'Vi is #1 DotA2 team today, but who knows what team will be on top once the game is released.

[PhuQ]

This one's for the Na'Vi fanboys. :)

http://h1813090.stratoserver.net/files/share/21_8_2011/hhpTCDhmUvT05uLz2UAQ.jpg

HA!!! NICE

[Yin`]

I think it goes:

Dendi, LighTofHeaveN, XBOCT, Puppey, (manager), ArtStyle

PS - holy sh*t ArtStyle is an ugly little ****er, LOL.

[GayChristian]

If it was single elimination ehome would be out. Only giving 1 game to the winners bracket was very generous to who came from losers. IMO it should have been best 2 out of 3 and if ehome won, another 2 out of 3. Like most tournaments are ran.

wrong!!! Ehome only lost 1 game to scythe, if that's single elimination, Ehome would've gotten another try~~

Tell me Mineski didn't win against Nirvina.cn by BD which is flatout despicable... Ehome was so much better than Navi, the skill cap wasn't even closely matched. Too bad we didn't get a fair tourney because the one free win the AUTHORITY decided to give to Navi, what a shame,~ could've have been a good enjoying tourney..

[NagiSoi]

Puppey is ****ing godlike chen.

[NagiSoi]

wrong!!! Ehome only lost 1 game to scythe, if that's single elimination, Ehome would've gotten another try~~

Tell me Mineski didn't win against Nirvina.cn by BD which is flatout despicable... Ehome was so much better than Navi, the skill cap wasn't even closely matched. Too bad we didn't get a fair tourney because the one free win the AUTHORITY decided to give to Navi, what a shame,~ could've have been a good enjoying tourney..



They were so good that they lost to them, g ****ing g bro, keep the bullshit flowing in with that skill level crap, ehome lost to superior na`vi gameplay.

[Dyzfunkshun]

wrong!!! Ehome only lost 1 game to scythe, if that's single elimination, Ehome would've gotten another try~~

Tell me Mineski didn't win against Nirvina.cn by BD which is flatout despicable... Ehome was so much better than Navi, the skill cap wasn't even closely matched. Too bad we didn't get a fair tourney because the one free win the AUTHORITY decided to give to Navi, what a shame,~ could've have been a good enjoying tourney..
Okay surely you have to be just trolling at this point...Na'Vi got a 1 game win from coming from the winners bracket, that's how the tournament (and virtually all other tournaments in online gaming) is structured.

Honestly...I suppose if you are a troll, you get points for being genuinely convincing at blurring the line between trolling and stupidity.

[Shadeward]

wrong!!! Ehome only lost 1 game to scythe, if that's single elimination, Ehome would've gotten another try~~

Tell me Mineski didn't win against Nirvina.cn by BD which is flatout despicable... Ehome was so much better than Navi, the skill cap wasn't even closely matched. Too bad we didn't get a fair tourney because the one free win the AUTHORITY decided to give to Navi, what a shame,~ could've have been a good enjoying tourney..

Even without free win, it was 2-1 for Na'Vi.

You're either joking or not too quick-witted.

[Yin`]

How exact would EHOME advance if... it was all Best of One?

[Lungs]

Is there any footage of after they win, like the crowd reaction. The celebration?

[Feroci0us]

So when are we gonna see some Beta Keys?

[zyg]

I think it goes:

Dendi, LighTofHeaveN, XBOCT, Puppey, (manager), ArtStyle

PS - holy sh*t ArtStyle is an ugly little ****er, LOL.
Looks normal enough

http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1708&pictureid=26202

[zyg]

Is there any footage of after they win, like the crowd reaction. The celebration?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j2pTO9rLgM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[kthxb]

I'm glad, gold coins stay in Europe.

[Moronocide]

the chinese team can try again next year, IF just announced they are doing Dota the international 2012 again.

[Yin`]

Valve tournament, ESWC, SMM, and more...

We'll be around. ;)

[Deakz]

Looks normal enough

http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1708&pictureid=26202
in a headshot, sure, but the kid is like 3ft tall

[sushi_x]

He's just like n0tail.

[JackSparrow`]

lol dota 2 looks exactly like LOL... and it looks so bad and childish, though the engine seems to be powerful, but, nvm... gj, u failed valve.

before i checked your stats i knew you were 48% win

[IceHism]

Inb4 eu beat asia or vice versa.

This game isn't completed yet(alpha stage) and there was a limited hero pool. not only that. chinese players didn't practice as much dota 2 as EU and the chinese scene is unstable atm due to that rich man.

Game is still in alpha, please don't assume anything about the teams just from this tourney. Kay thanks.

Honestly, i didn't expect Na'vi to get this far (MyM was always the best EU team in dota 1) And i congratulate them on their million.

I heavily await the international of 2012! :D

[zyg]

Inb4 eu beat asia or vice versa.

This game isn't completed yet(alpha stage) and there was a limited hero pool. not only that. chinese players didn't practice as much dota 2 as EU and the chinese scene is unstable atm due to that rich man.

Game is still in alpha, please don't assume anything about the teams just from this tourney. Kay thanks.
:D
Biggest tourny in e-sports ever, everything on the line. So yes I will assume from this, it's kind of a big deal. Also Na`Vi didn't just win, they dominated. No creativity from EHome or IG, single-minded strats fail.

EU > Asia!
USA! USA! USA!

[IceHism]

^
somehow, i see what you did there. xD

[`Fluttershy]

a better format would have just been a straight up best of 7 with no starting advantage for Na'Vi. coming from the losers bracket you have to play many more games. it's pretty easy to have one bad game early in the winner's bracket especially when it's just best of one and get knocked down to the losers bracket. no point in giving Na'Vi an advantage at that point, their advantage was having to play less games. maybe give them some kind of home field advantage like picking what side they want and/or letting them pick first or second or whatever they want.

it's not even like it was an extended series since ehome's loss wasn't to na'vi. if ehome's loss was to na'vi then it could be viewed as an extended series.

it shouldn't matter how either team gets to the grand finals. they both took their own roads to get there and they should meet up on equal footing.

[Yin`]

Rules are rules and no one should complain.

[ItchyTits]

is this dota2 beta download legit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1lAv0bHEs

[Krilox]

is this dota2 beta download legit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1lAv0bHEs

What do you think? Things like these are scammers delight.

Besides, you'd need an account in any case.

[`CallofBooty]

is this dota2 beta download legit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1lAv0bHEs

Disabled comments, disabled Like/Dislike button, looks legit to me. If they ask for your credit card, or cellphone number, then you know it's legit for sure.

[GayChristian]

the EN commentators at the final are strongly biased against Ehome.. lol how can you be this ignorant to say "Navi is too good for Ehome" in game 3.

ANyone who had watched the replay, and gone through the awful commentaries would realize this.

[Hax]

the EN commentators at the final are strongly biased against Ehome.. lol how can you be this ignorant to say "Navi is too good for Ehome" in game 3.

ANyone who had watched the replay, and gone through the awful commentaries would realize this.

Totally biased. The australian and the half-chinaman.

[YawningAngel]

They do tend to pick one team and just follow them.

[knowitall]

the EN commentators at the final are strongly biased against Ehome.. lol how can you be this ignorant to say "Navi is too good for Ehome" in game 3.

ANyone who had watched the replay, and gone through the awful commentaries would realize this.

Uh, EHOME was on their backfoot the entire series, even in the game they won.

[`Fluttershy]

Rules are rules and no one should complain.
rules can be modified and all tournaments don't use the same format.

[Meconium]

dota 2 sucks. come at me boi's. i will fight u all. give me adresses.

[Ernest]

Kinda crap that Na'Vi were given a free game. Would've been nice to watch more than 3 games in total. If Na'Vi were truly the best team of this competition than they should've been able to win 3/5 of Grand Final games without assistance. Whats the point of even having a losers bracket team in the final when they're so heavily disadvantaged. Ehome would be pleased with the 250K but.

[JackSparrow`]

dota 2 sucks. come at me boi's. i will fight u all. give me adresses.

go away

[zyg]

in a headshot, sure, but the kid is like 3ft tall
I think he's around 5'7'', his teammates are like in the 6'2''+ range, making him look a midget

[Deakz]

I know he's not a dwarf, but he's definitely not 5'7". He looks like he just got steamrolled.
I'd give him like 5'4" tops

[MissDjax]

I know he's not a dwarf, but he's definitely not 5'7". He looks like he just got steamrolled.
I'd give him like 5'4" tops

Honestly.. who gives a **** ?

[FORUMACCOUNT]

Kinda crap that Na'Vi were given a free game. Would've been nice to watch more than 3 games in total. If Na'Vi were truly the best team of this competition than they should've been able to win 3/5 of Grand Final games without assistance. Whats the point of even having a losers bracket team in the final when they're so heavily disadvantaged. Ehome would be pleased with the 250K but.

I'm almost 100 percent sure Na'Vi would of won even if there was another game. Their only loss in the whole tourny was the pudge pick. He honestly isn't viable for competitive play in DotA, even if he did well in the first 10 minutes.

[Skyve]

I'm almost 100 percent sure Na'Vi would of won even if there was another game. Their only loss in the whole tourny was the pudge pick. He honestly isn't viable for competitive play in DotA, even if he did well in the first 10 minutes.

What game did they pick Pudge?

[iruul]

What game did they pick Pudge?
First game of the finals vs EH.

[Yin`]

To all you people complaining at the ESWC Final when EHOME fought DTS, it was only a Best of Three (BO3), and guess what, DTS came from the Loser's Bracket and EHOME the Winner's Bracket so EHOME already had one-game advantage.

So they were up 1-0 in a BO3.

Then they beat DTS in the "second" game and that was that.

A very anti-climactic final (because EHOME made DTS look like 1500 pubs).

So no matter what tournament, the rules will favor one team or another. Stop complaining about it.

[Yin`]

Gabe Newell on Dota 2 and balance:


How precarious is the balance in a game as intricate as DotA 2?

"You have to constantly be looking for unbalance. We have much better tools than IceFrog had back when he was working on the original DotA, that help us capture all the balancing data. We even have a ton of biometric data that we can use in balancing."

[Chrysaetos]

Gabe Newell on Dota 2 and balance:


How precarious is the balance in a game as intricate as DotA 2?

"You have to constantly be looking for unbalance. We have much better tools than IceFrog had back when he was working on the original DotA, that help us capture all the balancing data. We even have a ton of biometric data that we can use in balancing."

Sounds like something S2 said.

[Talak_Hallen]

Sounds like something S2 said.

Yeah, but Valve actually knows what it's doing...

[Meconium]

Yeah, but Valve actually knows what it's doing...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9n_evvimGlg/Tdpt3zzycXI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/r4FFqY2DycM/s1600/Counter-Strike-Source.jpg

[LonJAXsoN]

lol at you China haters.

if the tournament is all single elimination, Ehome would've won already, since they basically gave a free win to Navi.

And why the hell would they give a free win to Navi is they claimed the tourney was fair, ho was that even remotely fair lol.

Ehome straight outplayed Navi for most the part, too bad the whole game was rig against Chinese teams, IG lost because Malenisk BDed.
EHOME lost to Scythe in the winner's bracket. Are you retarded? They wouldn't have even been in the final. The final would have been Scythe vs Na'vi.

Also, backdooring is a legitimate tactic. Use wards and carry tp's.

[JellySmelly]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9n_evvimGlg/Tdpt3zzycXI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/r4FFqY2DycM/s1600/Counter-Strike-Source.jpg

CSS was awesome.

[Deakz]

Na`Vi pick pudge to please the fans (every single Dota 2 related forum/community was BEGGING for pudge) and now people think EHOME stood a chance.
LOL

[Talak_Hallen]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9n_evvimGlg/Tdpt3zzycXI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/r4FFqY2DycM/s1600/Counter-Strike-Source.jpg

CS:S was fine. The only people who didn't move on to CS:S were the kids who lived in their parents' basement and whose mommy wouldn't buy them a new computer to play it. So they stuck with 1.6.

The same thing will happen to DOTA 2. A bunch of idiots will call it bad because they can't afford to play it. Pretty simple. People either long for intensely or outright hate what they can't have. And usually the latter with the type of community that this genre attracts.

[Skyve]

Why the hell is there no Na´Vi vs Ehome game 1 on youtube? :(

[Shadeward]

Why the hell is there no Na´Vi vs Ehome game 1 on youtube? :(

Free win from Na'Vi from winner's bracket.

[Yin`]

Sounds like something S2 said.

Then they hired Diva.

[Talesavo]

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/jqo9h/supporting_dota2_aint_appreciated_by_everyone/

[Tippa]

All the people getting the hopes up about Dota 2, the sad truth is that Valve is going to kill it. Slowly but surely Valve will start to screw with the game until it is dead.
But in the mean time, lets enjoy it.

[Talak_Hallen]

All the people getting the hopes up about Dota 2, the sad truth is that Valve is going to kill it. Slowly but surely Valve will start to screw with the game until it is dead.
But in the mean time, lets enjoy it.

Well... since HoN already killed itself with an ingame store and EA heroes... DOTA 2 is looking better and better all the time.

Edit: and it started out looking pretty damned awesome.

[Tritonus]

The Art direction, artwork and models look like crap. They should be paying Blizzard royalties for blatantly ripping off the model and character designs like that.

It's totally ridiculous that you can tell what each hero was in WC3. I mean, I never played DOTA in WC3, but I can still tell what all the heroes are based on. Example, Slither, AKA Venomancer looks like **** because they are basing it off a shitty Hydralisk model that Blizzard only put in the game to make the end credit sequence.

All the heroes look bland bland bland. **** like Viper and and Venomancer is pissing me off.

What a waste.

[Tree_Stump]

I just watched the dota2 gameplay on youtube. The graphic is quite ugly. What do you guys think? It seems like icefrog chose a wrong partner. He should have gone to Blizzard instead of Value. It looks like Value spent so little money on it.

[Kohun]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a5Xadz8uIHc/TXXOzh89BeI/AAAAAAAABg0/__ZlwriHtWk/s1600/your_opinion.jpg

[p1mpjuice]

Did you watch the highest quality ones? When I first saw the stream, I thought it was quite ugly too, but after seeing the higher quality videos, it looks a lot better. It makes a big difference when you can see the detail level in the map and hero models.

[Cord]

I think it's kind of hard to tell what's going on. The heroes, to me, don't have that one specific feature each that makes them easy to distinguish.

[`Oct`agon]

Really? I thought the graphics quality was decent but I really enjoy the Source engine. I think it's interesting, BUT, to fit the old DotA style, I don't think the current graphics suit the game type.

[Deakz]

that is you and your ten dollar computer my friend

[IsmaelVera]

He made Leviathan into a big retarded frog. No ty.
:balp:

[coolstorybro]

I just watched the dota2 gameplay on youtube. The graphic is quite ugly. What do you guys think? It seems like icefrog chose a wrong partner. He should have gone to Blizzard instead of Value. It looks like Value spent so little money on it.
I agree. Dota2 looks very gay. Looks like its for the people lusting for slutty nymphora alts.

[DonaldTrump`]

This is new and exciting.

[supitsLoki]

Honestly, I think it looks good. At first, I thought it was a little childish and LoLish, then I read the LoL forums for a second and everyone was like 'WTF it looks just like HoN!' (I know, right? rofl).

So I took a step back and took another look at it and I honestly like it a lot. Tons of attention to detail, the spells, while pretty generic as to what you would think they would look like (CM's ult), look very nice, and even the terrain and trees are really detailed and pretty.

[Tree_Stump]

I know they like the watercolor style, but so far it is not good as I thought. Dota2 is supposed to be 2012 game, and hon is 2009 game. Its graphic should be better. I do not like some companies who lower the graphic requirment just for more players because they have cheap computers. My computer is pretty new and I spent like 1.2k. I am expecting something good and stunning. So far I would say Diablo 3 and Modern warfare 3 have good graphic. Plus you can farm in Diablo 3. Farming is pretty fun too when you are doing it with your friends and do not need to mention the arena.

[MagniFtw]

Did you watch the highest quality ones? When I first saw the stream, I thought it was quite ugly too, but after seeing the higher quality videos, it looks like a better lol. It makes a big difference when you can see the detail level in the map and hero models.

fixed it :D

[Nuro]

Stopped caring about your opinion when i read 'value' twice.

[KanuMyUnchou]

THe game looks very horrible and shitty not to mention its just improved graphics and i think even still out of beta itll take a year for it to become better then HoN.

BUT im still gona play it anyway LOLZ Hoho Cadnada Crhistmas treee.

[hsram]

DotA 2 uses the Source engine which came out in 2004. Of course it's had updates since then but nothing that really changes the engine graphically. I fail to see how the graphics are terrible when Source is an amazing engine that's also not heavy on resources. Besides it's core functionality was made 7 years ago compared to the K2 engine (2 years ago).

K2 engine (the one HoN uses) is terribly coded and is very heavy on resources. It came out in 2009.

You can't exactly see the difference with YouTube videos (unless maybe it's at 1080p) or streams (period). To talk down on the Source engine only shows how illiterate you are both computer wise and gaming wise.

[redeye998]

Graphix are awesome, with CS Source engine, startcraft2-like.
The game is awesome.
I do not like:
-Earthshaker is like a monkey
-Fail Shadow Fiend Razes(nukes)
-The sound and visual effects need to turn down a bit
GG

[xMKNx]

Really? I thought the graphics quality was decent but I really enjoy the Source engine. I think it's interesting, BUT, to fit the old DotA style, I don't think the current graphics suit the game type.


rofl the source engine blows .

know what ur talking about.

source engine is old and way outdated

edit: For a "new" game to come out on an old engine is jus sad.

[KanuMyUnchou]

PIckachu alt avatar for thunder bringer and charmander for Pyromancer please.

[hsram]

rofl the source engine blows .

know what ur talking about.

You must be new to gaming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb1yrhgRVMQ (Actually watch this)


source engine is old and way outdated

Correct but it's still an amazing engine for being 7 years old.


edit: For a "new" game to come out on an old engine is jus sad.

Not really, considering people still don't have boss ass computers. Why do you think Source was chosen for this?

[tywald]

rofl the source engine blows .

know what ur talking about.

source engine is old and way outdated

edit: For a "new" game to come out on an old engine is jus sad.

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/054/054803.html

gameplay>graphics :)

Megaman 10 still uses the nintendo 8-bit graphics, and it came out in 2010. As long the game is fun, graphics doesn't matter.

[LOL_HON_LOL]

AHHAHAHAHAHAH

u say dota2 gfx suck?
but play HON AND LOL?

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[hsram]

Zoom in on the models in HoN. Suddenly N64 graphics.

[Phaded]

ITT: People talk about the source engine but don't know what it's capable of.

It originated with CS Source

It has since been used to create games like TF2, L4D2, Portal 2, Alien Swarm

[Coolcollo]

I have a beta invite.

awaiting the slew of jealous comments, "lets play!", plz leak, pics or it didn't happen, dota2 sucks, hon sucks, go play LoL, etc.

[GiantCyborg]

KanuMyUnchou and ismaelvera the typical troll/S2 fanboys of the hon forums.
I am seriously considering to apply for a moderator position to ban you from the forums for life.
I would pay S2 a great deal of money to allow me such an opportunity.

[WetMistress]

I have a beta invite.

awaiting the slew of jealous comments, "lets play!", plz leak, pics or it didn't happen, dota2 sucks, hon sucks, go play LoL, etc.

liar.

[DatAsh`]

Cant wait for Cs:GO...and it will be in *tadaaaa* Source Engine.

[LOL_HON_LOL]

cant wait for cs:go...and it will be in *tadaaaa* source engine.
lol source engine
it will look worse than hon

ehehehhehe

[Cord]

ITT: People talk about the source engine but don't know what it's capable of.

It originated with CS Source

It has since been used to create games like TF2, L4D2, Portal 2, Alien Swarm

No...it originated with Half-Life 2.

[hsram]

No...it originated with Half-Life 2.

No...it didn't. Counter-Strike was the first game to support the Source engine, then HL2.

[KanuMyUnchou]

KanuMyUnchou and ismaelvera the typical troll/S2 fanboys of the hon forums.
I am seriously considering to apply for a moderator position to ban you from the forums for life.
I would pay S2 a great deal of money to allow me such an opportunity.

MMR: 1534

[KanuMyUnchou]

KanuMyUnchou and ismaelvera the typical troll/S2 fanboys of the hon forums.
I am seriously considering to apply for a moderator position to ban you from the forums for life.
I would pay S2 a great deal of money to allow me such an opportunity.

MMR: 1534 My accoutn suda is already banned i got more accounts after this and my ea account.
MMR: 1534 My accoutn suda is already banned i got more accounts after this and my ea account.
1200 MMR ON CM MODE LOLZ

[Yin`]

liar.

That is for you to decide.

[Talak_Hallen]

That is for you to decide.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/516439-page12/beta-invites-started/#post2776848

Satisfied?

[Loli]

Coolcollo compulsive liar.

[Evermourn]

Is this the most posted-in thread on the entire forums yet?

[`Fluttershy]

I think it's kind of hard to tell what's going on. The heroes, to me, don't have that one specific feature each that makes them easy to distinguish.
that's because you're not used to the game. if you watched several of the tournament games then you'll get accustomed to the look. i started to really like the graphics by the end of the tournament. at first i thought some heroes like puck looked really bad but by the end she really grew on me. and it also reminded me a lot of LoL but now it doesn't and it reminds me much more of TF2 now which is much better.

[Pustik]

damn 510 pages, i wonder how long it will go before official dota release, any guesses ill say 1500 pages

[Helmsman]

I just watched the dota2 gameplay on youtube. The graphic is quite ugly. What do you guys think? It seems like icefrog chose a wrong partner. He should have gone to Blizzard instead of Value. It looks like Value spent so little money on it.

You are really dumb.

1.) Video Quality in general is bad, does not represent the game.
2.) Apparently all you care about is graphics? Even though Dota 2 looks fantastic.
3.) Why don't you steer away from graphics for a second and look at how the game plays? Pretty smooth and there were no problems with the game ****ing up (all the lag was due to the internet at the venue).

[Helmsman]

that's because you're not used to the game. if you watched several of the tournament games then you'll get accustomed to the look. i started to really like the graphics by the end of the tournament. at first i thought some heroes like puck looked really bad but by the end she really grew on me. and it also reminded me a lot of LoL but now it doesn't and it reminds me much more of TF2 now which is much better.

This. I thought it wasn;t that great my first game, I watched 6 games and got really in to it. I was already hyped for it, now that hype is gone and filled with "this game's good."

[Deakz]

no more than 700 pages, it's pretty inactive after gamescom

[`Fluttershy]

I have a beta invite.

awaiting the slew of jealous comments, "lets play!", plz leak, pics or it didn't happen, dota2 sucks, hon sucks, go play LoL, etc.
valve must want to test their game with people that have dial up internet then.

[Neefykins]

I feel..

HoN = Dark and grungy art direction
LoL = Vivid, light, and cartoony art direction
Dota2 = TF2 meets LoL

[Graviton]

it will speed up once beta invites start. prediction: at least 1k pages

[NydalaKush]

I hate s2, i love Hon.

In complete honesty, here is the truth and i am NOT the only one thinking this.

The day before the 1mil D2 tour, i was like "hell yeah, S2 dies now and D2 will be released in like a week gg"

But when i saw that LoLish D2 crap, im not so sure S2 will die.

And i honestly think these D2 dickriders are fooling themselves when they say the graphics are amazing in D2.

I will buy D2, i will play it, but i srsly doubt that ill stay there considering its actually a LoL sequel they made

[Roaec]

dota2 doesnt look like lol at all

[Fenril]

d2 been around longer than hon bra\

shhitt son, d2 been around longer than dota

[vanGeierson]

D2 = Diablo 2 don't try to make an acronym out of an acronym :/

[kasqa]

I had some issues with the Dota2 graphics too, but after watching the stream some more I realised that those issues were mainly with their models and their animations being kinda lame. The graphics per say are equal or better (kinda subjective opinion) to HoN. I mean, compare earthshaker's stun to behemoth's fissure... and that's just one example, there are so many.

It remains to be seen if the heroes are finalized as they are, or still subject to change, being beta and all.

[Ryuukun]

DotA 2 looks neat )
Clear graphics and fitting style.
It only looks like LoL on the first glance, thus you
should watch some of the Vods.

[ImYourWarden]

dude it looks like LoL

who are you kidding

[Dacko]

HoN will loose a couple of players. I think 50%.

So many wrong decision S2 had made in the last 3 Months. F2P was good and ok, but it didn't help, playerbase is still around 44k at one time (Before F2P: 40k, shortly after F2P: 56k)

[NydalaKush]

fine ill be honest

i do come from the streets, and maybe thats why my opinion isnt like urs

but can u REALLY say that u like the D2 graphics? I have watched it in 1080p n i still cant help but wondering if they are trolling or not

they wont change much prolly since they did do a million dollar tour on the game

[kylol]

watch it in 1080p the livestream was low quality
youtube.com/dota2

[Udyret]

I'm unsure of the graphical decision they've made. The graphics are inherently good, but a choice of cel-shade type style makes it a bit less serious. Also, I'm missing some more impact in general, for instance when the creeps die. It kinda lacks impact in general, like when spells hit, projectiles hit, a melee stroke or anything like that. A prime example would be Beastmasters axes, which seems to only fly through the air.

This all might be because it's still in beta, but I gotta say; all these things were in place when HoN was in beta. Guess we'll have to wait some more and see before any decision can be made.

I won't say I'm leaving HoN, because frankly I'm not sure I will. If DOTA2 is a better game, then sure, but we know virtually nothing yet. It could be terribad.

[oberbreit]

dota2 doesnt look like lol at all
this
and i bet op never played d1..

[`Fluttershy]

This. I thought it wasn;t that great my first game, I watched 6 games and got really in to it. I was already hyped for it, now that hype is gone and filled with "this game's good."
yea i was excited for the tournament and watched the stream of the first game really looking forward to seeing what dota2 would be like. i felt really let down and disappointed after the game and stopped watching it. it didn't help that it was a 2 hour ricefest too.

then i caught the last couple days of the tournament and watched several games and it looked completely different to me. it was like dota2 grew on me while i slept and i learned to love it overnight.

i guess once the hype wore off i could really look at the game and appreciate how it actually is. and i guess watching the stream in HD the second time helped too.

[Rofl_Cake]

Dota 2's graphics will probably not improve much from beta to retail. The game is geared towards poorfags with modems made from rice and bamboo, so the graphical quality has to be crap, although downloading the beta is 8 whopping gigabytes. Seriously, what is up with that?

And it will be f2p. Valve is run by Gabe Newell, and he wants to make money. The f2p model with hats and other nonsensical bs is the money route, so get ready to clash with laggy pinoys, ricing Chinamen, LoL players screaming about deny, and your own HoN brethren in a disastrous case of cultural convergence.

[NydalaKush]

this
and i bet op never played d1..

mr 1.28 kd talking ruff'

ive been playing D1 a lot u *******

[Ryuukun]

fine ill be honest

i do come from the streets, and maybe thats why my opinion isnt like urs

but can u REALLY say that u like the D2 graphics? I have watched it in 1080p n i still cant help but wondering if they are trolling or not

they wont change much prolly since they did do a million dollar tour on the game

Did you know that people criticized S2 for making DotA too dark and emo.
People didn't like the style at first as well.
That's just how it goes.
You get used to something and can't get used to something else at first.

DotA 2 definitely comes closer to the WC3 dota style than HoN does.

[`Fluttershy]

500+ pages in less than 2 months. easily gonna break 1k pages.

[kasqa]

HoN will loose a couple of players. I think 50%.

So many wrong decision S2 had made in the last 3 Months. F2P was good and ok, but it didn't help, playerbase is still around 44k at one time (Before F2P: 40k, shortly after F2P: 56k)

i clearly remember it being ~55k online some days ago, F2P hasn't really lost it's effects to the player base.

[Rofl_Cake]

Oh yea, and DotA2 does look somewhat like LoL. Not to the letter, but it looks like complete garbage. If you say otherwise, you have bad taste in appearances.

[Papilla]

d = Tencious D
d2 = diablo 2

so?

[Recart]

why do people say their doing to leave? its not hard to play both.

[`Fluttershy]

if you actually played LoL and/or TF2 you'd see that dota2 looks much better than LoL and and much more like TF2, which is a good thing. i admit it reminded me a lot of LoL when i watched the first game, but by the end of the tournament it ceased to remind me of LoL.

the problem is you're just so used to the way HoN looks because that's the game you're most familiar with. so when you see a new game like dota2 you're going to associate it with LoL as well because it's a game you're not as familiar with either. if you watched enough of the tournament you'll get accustomed to dota2 and can start to appreciate its look.

[NydalaKush]

U Valvedickriders, u know who u are? U are the guy in junior highschool who gets into a class with all girls - but they are UGLY. So he tells his friends that they are hot n give him blowjobs etc just to make it look like its smth its not

[Saria]

I didn't know Diablo 2 had a 1 million tour just recently, i must really be out of the loop with everything.

[Saria]

U Valvedickriders, u know who u are? U are the guy in junior highschool who gets into a class with all girls - but they are UGLY. So he tells his friends that they are hot n give him blowjobs etc just to make it look like its smth its not

Quality post right here :myrm: