The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread

[Kzod]

mother****ers moved my thread
im out

[BaddieKid]

mother****ers moved my thread
im out

rage much?

[tumtum100]

This is going on in the Dota 2 forums:


I check hon forums regarding the screenshoots, silly of them to compare this to lol. n if its really four months old then it should be wayyyy bttr when we see it at gamescom mwahahahahha

[colondee]

This Dota2 is so ugly with such a horrid interface... I can't even believe it. I expected something special, but this is true bullshit. And the isometric walls are intended to confuse and limit your movement options?

THIS GAME WILL SUCK HARD

expected metagamer rating: 67%

[AdAgito]

This Dota2 is so ugly with such a horrid interface... I can't even believe it. I expected something special, but this is true bullshit. And the isometric walls are intended to confuse and limit your movement options?

THIS GAME WILL SUCK HARD

expected metagamer rating: 67%

HoN fanboy... seriously wait for the game to come out or at least the tournament gameplay

[Devilnaut]

I really like the smoothness and simplicity of the DOTA2 art style. It looks very painterly and reminds me of a cross of TF2/Darksiders.

It's easy on the eyes. Not all color-eccentric like LoL and more ORGANIC-looking than HoN. Less clutter-looking too.

HoN sure looks detailed but when you zoom it, you can see how poor and rough the textures are.

[Techies]

LoL's main weakness visually was it's environment. The heroes will actually fit nicely into DOTA2 visually.

[MTLuan]

some of you seem to be confusing your opinion with reality.

Valve is developing and publishing this game (i could stop here). Valve created steam. Steam is currently the best digital distribution system in use by any video game company. Given this, dota 2 will not lose to any game. There will simply be people who are too poor or too stubborn to purchase it.

Dota 2 will sell millions of copies because valve has the money and marketing knowhow to do so and because they have a proven and already implemented distribution system.

Valve got the money and marketing knowhow by being one of the best game development companies on the planet.

Valve is going to be the first professional (and proven) game development studio to enter the moba genre... And they're going to bring with it the same standard of quality of development and innovation that it put into games such as counterstrike, portal, half-life, half-life 2 (and episodes), team fortress 2, left4dead and many others. Every game i just listed has won countless awards and sold millions of copies.

If you think that valve doesn't know it's way around online multiplayer games and game development in general and that dota 2 isn't going to be massively successful, then you are a fool and are sorely deluding yourself.



Concerning the recent screenshot leaks. They look fantastic.

Graphics are bad? Get your eyes checked.

Looks like lol? Just because lol's artists aren't real artists and have to stylize the **** out of the game to make it pass as a game doesn't mean that a subtly stylized game looks the same. Get your brain checked.

Looks worse than hon? Same as above.

If i had to compare it to any game, i'd compare it to diablo iii. It looks very similar (but better imo) in art style.

You say the ui is bad? It looks simple and functional and helps keep focus on the beautiful graphics. This is also pre-beta we're talking about. Valve could kick out a brand new ui in a couple days.


this! Kthx s2 fanboy losers.

[`Fluttershy]

i don't give a **** about the graphics. it's all about the animations.

[m0ntyyy]

http://steamunpowered.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg


^^^^^1000x this

[Wayfinder]

Quite frankly, WCIII>HoN/Dota2>LoL
+1 WC3 is a classic.

[so`CEEREAL]

has anyone seen this yet?
http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-leaked-screenshots
no lie

[eNTe_eXe]

These screenshots have increased the hype around of dota2. Thousands of people will watch the stream in 3 days, trying to find out if these screenshots were old and what the game actually looks like.

I bet it was Valve leaking these images to create even more hype ;)
Hopefully they are really old and dota2 looks different now....otherwise, I will stay with HoN, which isn't a bad game at all.

[Emesis]

Check it out, looks nice!

http://www.dota-two.com/

[Nocturnis]

Nice Thanks!! Can't wait!! S2 is such a shitty company that doesn't give a **** about its customers and is all about making a quick buck.

[SFCLUB]

Nice Thanks!! Can't wait!! S2 is such a shitty company that doesn't give a **** about its customers and is all about making a quick buck.

idk that's just like, your opinion, man.

[Malaevalos]

DotA 2 > HoN > LoL
Just shut up nerds..
http://i54.tinypic.com/dmf9qs.jpg

[Drognok]

DotA 2 obviously has more of an educated art direction. It has a beautiful, consistent look that is conducive to the nature of an often chaotic game. They have the right idea. Admittedly, though I love HoN, it sometimes becomes an over-saturated particle effect clusterF.

[B3yondL]

Doesn't look like HoN therefore bad.

[Calcifer]

Looks incredible, cannot wait.

Oh, and inb4 this thread gets moved to the troll forum for mentioning DotA 2. It's almost like Voldemort, except it's only S2 members that shudder at the name :P

[donaldtroll]

love these screens

to think i once loved hon </3

[Skyve]

Nice Thanks!! Can't wait!! S2 is such a shitty company that doesn't give a **** about its customers and is all about making a quick buck.

Do you have any proof for these stupid accusations?


Looks incredible, cannot wait.

Oh, and inb4 this thread gets moved to the troll forum for mentioning DotA 2. It's almost like Voldemort, except it's only S2 members that shudder at the name :P

You do realize that this is the general discussion for Heroes of Newerth, and that the offtopic part of the forum actually had a Dota2 thread for a while now?

[cybertag]

The terrain is very pretty. tThe characters look good, but the portaits (look at VS's) aren't great imo. I don't like the health bars - hopefully there is a way to change those so they don't look dumb (any mention of mod support in dota2?). Doom Bringer looks completely bad ass.

[Juicenewton]

idk that's just like, your opinion, man.

Theres a resounding amount of evidence that disagrees with you :)

[CustomMode]

Do you have any proof for these stupid accusations?

lol'd.

[MrCosgrove]

looks pretty ugly,
but still can't wait to try it out :X
but damn it really looks ugly ><
but damn will see it in a few days live and i hope it will be only half as great as i hope it to be :P

[Kohun]

Nice Thanks!! Can't wait!! S2 is such a shitty company that doesn't give a **** about its customers and is all about making a quick buck.


whats sad is that most people dont even believe this

[Boyka]

Hmm. I was abit disappointed when it came down to the graphics. I guess it's something to get used too afterall..

Other than that, looks promising! Lucifer, my beloved doombringer <3 :D

[Torguemada]

Pretty looking graphics, but that UI is totaly horrible.

[nicalobe]

Not gonna lie, I was expecting it to look better. These screen shots make everything look like clay =/

[Slut]

Theres a resounding amount of evidence that disagrees with you :)
Really, there's evidence that disagrees with what a certain individual likes ? Interesting, next you're going to tell me that I'm wrong if my favorite color is red, and I should like blue because that's the RIGHT color.

[meowx]

Post about it just got updated this screenie was taken 4 months ago.

[Player27]

Dota 2 looks so damn good. This is exactly what i wanted. Great job from Valve to stay away from this dark fantasy bullcrap.

[too`smithie]

I find i funny how Vengeful Spirit is tagged as Andromeda.

Looks avg tbh (sort of similar to LoL)

[RPE]

GG s2

[Loli]

DotA 2's graphics are stylized like TF2.

It helps heroes pop out against the some what bland background.
We'll see how much they've changed come Gamescom though.

I don't mind them as is, although hopefully there are more detailed models available.

[BlooDByte]

if s2 just improve their servers ....ill surely stick to HoN

[Gorescream]

Warcraft 3 above all
Then HoN than Dota2

I ****jking hate that kiddy LoL shitfjsfks@($&@fskfsjk

[NeoScout]

LoL confirmed for master race

[Player27]

Dota 2 wins.

[Gorescream]

though I love HoN, it sometimes becomes an over-saturated particle effect clusterF.

I LOVE THAT:temp:

[Neefykins]

Looks like league of legends meets TF2 graphics, grate

[Crap]

Looks like ****. Valve, i am disappoint

[Gorescream]

in case nobody posted

http://i.imgur.com/pECBo.jpg

bumping:valk:

[uNERDZ]

Tbh, i was expecting alot better. This looks meh..

[superdeluxxe]

Reminds me of Torchlight. didnt want super great graphics because then when teamfights happen **** hits the fan (your fps, that is).

[Tyrando]

fk screenshots, gimme gameplay

[izRlyBad]

Whoo! epic graphics. can't wait.

[Jake]

http://media.playdota.com/misc/loadscreen/Dota2_Kunkka_Med.jpg

[Razb_]

http://i4.imageban.ru/out/2011/08/15/ba41928d54574c8409d90e5fa2e24da0.gif

[Z3ROCOOL22]

http://i4.imageban.ru/out/2011/08/15/ba41928d54574c8409d90e5fa2e24da0.gif

Mine's better, sorry.

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb401/z3rocool22/1553tjs.gif

[Talesavo]

Listen to some of you HoNtards, fear will do a lot to a person.

[Razb_]

lol nice one

[IceHism]

[UPDATED]: So, as it seems these screenshots might even be 4 months old. This just got posted on dota2.de:
Ok, this is probably not stop so quickly now. Some argue loudly Dota.cn (we are very sorry for something lost in translation) are the screenshots btw. so old to 4 months, and the current game, including the HUD to be heavily revised to give, so not too much at the screenshots (even my seemingly different , though there was no Photoshop in the game ...). But as I said, I stress once again explicitly: some argue that, no more, no less. Forums Talk, Rumors, Gossip just the usual. Is that how far we know the latest in 3 days, that is: Calm down. There are only a few screenshots.and





http://i54.tinypic.com/2ag6kqs.jpg


Screenshots are 4 months old. The reason some dota players don't play HoN is because the gameplay is the most important in Dota.

I'm absolutely sure the UI is improved.
And i like the graphics honestly after staring at the comparison thing
Puts much focus on the gameplay, Hon becomes a cluster**** and LoL is a pure children cartoon

and i hope the gameplay stays exactly the same as Dota 1 except a bit faster pace wouldn't hurt imo

[Anchovies]

It's ironic that HoN's art style is actually closer to dota 1 while dota 2 has gone for more of the LoL style. And it's funny watching the dota 2 fanboys try and justify this new art direction while previously, they were convinced that dota 2 would be their great saviour because it was gonna be exactly the same as dota but on a new engine. This new art direction will no doubt change the feel of the game.

[Zeledaki]

I think is a stupid question and I welcome trolls on my post already,but I wonder How many Dota's 2 Scouts got HON's forum :D

[Skyve]

Your English.

Not so good.

[facedown]

Can someone please translate? On second thought don't bother. I need to protect my brain.

[CHRONOS_LOL]

What? I don't understand your question.
Might be cus it's really late but w/e

[Naib]

chucking around "fanboy" like it is some form of insult by one "fanboy" to another *sigh*

you all realise that dota2 and hon can live side by side and there is going to be people staying with hon like there is people going to dota2

[Ixorian]

I think he is asking, how many Dota 2 dev's Have a HoN account and are reading all the trolling and Epeening about how Dota 2 will be the **** and stuff

[Gizzleby]

There can be only one :scou:

[Malaevalos]

There can be only one :scou:
lawl i think your stupid.

[Malaevalos]

chucking around "fanboy" like it is some form of insult by one "fanboy" to another *sigh*

you all realise that dota2 and hon can live side by side and there is going to be people staying with hon like there is people going to dota2

yeah but we compare Dota 2 and hon.not fight.just some tard failers call dota 2 fans ''fanboy'' rofl

[Kzod]

It's ironic that HoN's art style is actually closer to dota 1 while dota 2 has gone for more of the LoL style. And it's funny watching the dota 2 fanboys try and justify this new art direction while previously, they were convinced that dota 2 would be their great saviour because it was gonna be exactly the same as dota but on a new engine. This new art direction will no doubt change the feel of the game.
why would it change the feel of the game?
I just don't understand why people care so much about the art style of a game. As long as the graphics aren't like watching a 240p cartoon on youtube (aka league of legends), it's all good. I love HoN's graphics, but I also love the TF2 style Valve is going for, they seem really neat and they have nothing to do with LoL's style, rofl.

[Fuga]

asdf

[Skyve]

Nope, too stronk.

[Stryker]

Looks like Diablo III graphics to be honest.

I like it.

It's like a mix of LoL and HoN.

[Maackaan]

....

[facedown]

You know this post will go in the garbage, why even do it?

[KDR4life]

That was really funny, I look forward to your future threads.

[facedown]

This is getting really old.

DotA has their own forum. This is HoN. You are lost and very late.

[LeiT]

tl;dr

[Maginox]

Ugh I had hopes for this game, wtf is this? brown, cartoony bs... clean though.. artstyle sucks, no big rock golem roshan? :madm:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/957656-Leaked-Dota-2-pictures

[SmackTrickz`]

STOP POSTING ITTTTTTT

everyone saw that in last 20hoiurs

[facedown]

Yup, 100 times is not enough. Please keep posting this crap after everyone has already seen it, talked about it and moved on.

They have a forum dedicated to talking about DotA, this is not it.

[KI_Glacius]

Lycan is not War Beast!

[TantumErgo]

i c wat u did thar :warb:

[Kevinriz9r]

i miss u silhoutte in dota 2

[Nura]

HHAAAAABHNABHBHABHA that is on some chinese 1.0ghz processor **** pc lets see the **** on everything High

[Maginox]

http://i.imgur.com/2wppw.jpg HAHAHAHAHHA GUYS its the truth

Dota = Hon
Lol = Dota 2

[DemKy]

is it funny ?

[Fordymo]

Are HoN heroes fair game for Dota 2?

As long as they are able to port war beast then I'm okay with it

[DemKy]

this is not dota forum.

[Talesavo]

lawl i think your stupid.


Calling other people stupid without understanding the difference between "your" and "you're".

[Fordymo]

Too bad, it's me, OGRE MAGI!!

[Fordymo]

you're not a dota forum

[ZabatieL]

The graphic are really okay for me(I like shiny games, they are less tiring for my eyes) and this is the less important part for me.

The real question is:



The gameplay will be fast as HoN or slow like DOTA 1?




How the spells/teamfights seem?




How MM work? They have leagues like starcraft II? SoloMatchMaking is actually SOLO(10 random people)?




They will have a real anti-smurf system like LoL? Where everyone have to play xxx games to play ranked MM?



S2 matchmaking system really disappointed me!

[Mysterymagic]

so that i can buy a GLaDOS announcer pack and hats for my heroes
and Valve better port War Beast, or ima be angry! until then, ima stick with hon.
:scou:

[stickie]

Dota 2 gon be far better den HoN. You see da screenshots? i already quid hon and i cant wait for dat dota2. HoN is baicaly LOL now neway.

[Player27]

Why would frog take any hero from HoN? There is not a single hero S2 games created that would qualify for DotA.

[Skyve]

Too bad, it's me, OGRE MAGI!!

Not as good :(

[Skyve]

Why would frog take any hero from HoN? There is not a single hero S2 games created that would qualify for DotA.

Right...

[Angry_Chu]

Hats on heroes would be pretty baller.

http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/thumb/2/23/Backpack_Bonk_helm.png/100px-Backpack_Bonk_helm.png

That on SF.

[GhettoJesus]

It would be bad PR wise for icefrog to leave s2 then use their own few original characters in his dota 2. Don't get me wrong he's self-employed, but he is in a very visible position for gamers + reviewers.

[Skyve]

Just because two games share a business model, they aren't the same.

God of War is as much Devil May Cry as HoN is LoL.

[Malaevalos]

Calling other people stupid without understanding the difference between "your" and "you're".
lawlawawlalwlaw

[Neefykins]

Looks like Diablo III graphics to be honest.

I like it.

It's like a mix of shite and HoN.

Fixed it for you :legi:

[DrDiepel]

This looks so great. Better than ive expected. Thumbs up.

[Lethe]

well at least it doesn't seem like I'll have problems running it like I do with HoN.

[m_or]

So anyone notice they removed damage ranges? imo the damage range change is gonna mess up the entire laning phase

Rumour: apparently they don't have decimal armour values any more either,

[Lethe]

So anyone notice they removed damage ranges? imo the damage range change is gonna mess up the entire laning phase

Rumour: apparently they don't have decimal armour values any more either,

interesting to note that the damage values shown aren't the average damages of either Lucy or SF...should be 61 and 38 respectively...so can't say that for sure.

[Loli]

Personally I'm all for removing damage ranges.
Adds an element of luck that's not needed.

Same with uphill miss. Needs to be replaced with something similar but not % chance.

[m_or]

interesting to note that the damage values shown aren't the average damages of either Lucy or SF...should be 61 and 38 respectively...so can't say that for sure.

DB is holding two ironwood branches, that's +2 damage so it adds up

[Pylons]

if this havent been posted, here it is.
additional leaks.

>Classic Mode: None of the changes, 100% WC3 Dota
>Normal Mode: Orb updates, bug fixes, etc
>Easy Mode: No EXP loss from deny, no gold loss on death, etc
>All Random All Mid: I give you 1 guess.
>Fortress Mode: 1 team is attacking while the other defends, defending team can buy traps, attacking team can buy creeps.
>Arena Mode: FFA or teamed death match
>Wild Mode: Random heroes with random skills.
>Free Mode: No cool downs with no mana cost on skills.
>Commander Mode: When you die you are changed into another hero with the same items and same level. The first side to run out of heroes or to lose their base loses.

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news/additional-dota-2-leaks-surfaced-today/

[Talesavo]

DotA 2 obviously has more of an educated art direction. It has a beautiful, consistent look that is conducive to the nature of an often chaotic game. They have the right idea. Admittedly, though I love HoN, it sometimes becomes an over-saturated particle effect clusterF.


This.

[Sillyboy]

Art style that isnt what u like = bad?
its actually pretty ****ing high quality, in a way similar to TF2, its just stylized

[HashTrayz]

if this havent been posted, here it is.
additional leaks.

>Classic Mode: None of the changes, 100% WC3 Dota
>Normal Mode: Orb updates, bug fixes, etc
>Easy Mode: No EXP loss from deny, no gold loss on death, etc
>All Random All Mid: I give you 1 guess.
>Fortress Mode: 1 team is attacking while the other defends, defending team can buy traps, attacking team can buy creeps.
>Arena Mode: FFA or teamed death match
>Wild Mode: Random heroes with random skills.
>Free Mode: No cool downs with no mana cost on skills.
>Commander Mode: When you die you are changed into another hero with the same items and same level. The first side to run out of heroes or to lose their base loses.

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news/additional-dota-2-leaks-surfaced-today/
do read the full interview, but esseciantialy what it sums up to is that it will be 10x better than hon

[sakujo]

^ That information was posted on a forum where the sub header literally says "only a fool would take anything posted here as a fact."

[izRlyBad]

Dota 2 looks so much better than HoN. There is no comparison.

[Lethe]

DB is holding two ironwood branches, that's +2 damage so it adds up
oh good call I missed that.

SF's is still low though :p

[Chinekafon]

http://i52.tinypic.com/4h63dh.jp

[Hax]

Wild mode.. All about getting that behe passive.

[Naib]

yeah but we compare Dota 2 and hon.not fight.just some tard failers call dota 2 fans ''fanboy'' rofl
But you see thats my point
Both sides view the other as being childish and wrong and being fanboys (as if that is some form of insult)


simple fact remains,
* this is the hon forums, you might want to concider taking these discussions to valve forums or dota forums
* there is VERY limited information out about dota2. These screenshots are really the only useful information and even these are months old, stating "HoN is dead" based upon just screenshots is very naive. HoN may be dead for you but that doesn't mean it is dead for all.

Just you and everyone else calm down on this bickering otherwise these threads will just get locked

[decayed`cell]

When I first saw the pictures I said " Oh god ,what is this crap "
After reading this whole article:
http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news/additional-dota-2-leaks-surfaced-today/
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpp6j2FiJf1qkf52io1_500.jpg

[JackSparrow`]

http://i52.tinypic.com/4h63dh.jp

photoshoped, that is sc2 and has already been posted

[Schyzotrop]

Wild mode.. All about getting that behe passive.i guess u never played wtf mode in dota :D
it's all about getting BKB(shurnken head) :p (Also Kelen's Dagger(PK) is huge fun)

[KingSaber]

So far from the picture with doombringer by the river I can say that the water and trees look way better than heroes of newerth.

[KingSaber]

I do like hons grassy look a bit better tho.

[scott3h]

There is nothing wrong with it. Its perfect.

[_Wolf_]

Awsome. Looks fantastic to me. Don't see why bright colors are considered cartoony. Its called an Art Style. This particular one has been proven to last long graphically then those that age quick,meaning looks out dated. An example would be CS:S vs TF2. One style has aged badly while the other hasnt at all. The proof is in the pudding(end result) and not what you use to make it(what you do/use).

Anyways, I love the style. It looks great and I see some small upgrades to the source engine too :-D

[HonchCrow]

People who are haters will understand the graphics when they see the game in action. There is an absence of clutter and tons of worthless detail for a reason. You can tell that valve is trying to put emphasis on the heroes over the environment. Just look at the love they gave doom bringer. Also I think there are some unexpected treats in store that a lot of people may have forgotten. In the announcement interview they said heroes would talk to each other. I am hoping for some nice interactive animations, similar to TF2's.

Haters gonna hate, they won't be after Gamescon though. And if they still are hating after that then when DotA 2 comes out they will have no one to play with in HoN. LOL!

[scott3h]

From these screenshots alone, the environment around the hero looks like a painting. Everything is so clean and nothing is cluttered, I'm sure team fights won't be as confusing as they are in HoN.

Valve is aiming for this game to be a huge eSport, and in order to understand what is actually going on mid-game, there has to be minimal visual clutter.

[Helmsman]

I know most of you saw them. What did you think?

[B3yondL]

My body...it wasn't ready.

[claudiu]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

[R2L3372]

really, there's already 2 good games out

sure DoTA will have a huge influx at the beginning, give it a month, and then you will know whether or not it has lasting appeal

I'm still unsure of Valve, they aren't MoBA devs, they are FPS devs and a corporate company with vision on the grand scale of amassing new players

They can't make the learning curve too big

[Suda]

I am dissapointed in the dota2 screen shots but im still gona play it buy/etc.

[Fomalhaut]

They're not leaks if they're sanctioned by Valve, just saying. None of the pictures were leaked, why are people this stupid? It's obvious as **** that they were shown to garner hype for what we're going to witness.

On topic though, I think it looks beautiful. HoN has its own charm and I'm not going to change because of graphics. DOTA2 is going to be unforgiving no matter what they do, and the barrier of entry is being kept high by Icefrog on purpose. Can't see enemy mana is just an example, but I am almost 90% certain that this feature alone will destroy most who even attempt the game coming from anything but DotA.

>Still going to play it and get my ass kicked.

[ScotchEgg]

Since they'er 4 months old you can't say much about the UI. The article says the UI looks different now.

But we can see the graphics...

Graphics look like they fall somewhere between LoL and HoN.

[TheJohns]

It looks... okay, I guess. Nothing mind-blowing, really.

[Suda]

Since they'er 4 months old you can't say much about the UI. The article says the UI looks different now.

But we can see the graphics...

Graphics look like they fall somewhere between LoL and HoN.

4 months old wtf how do u get this information can u post threads please..

No srsly.

Use moneysign2

[ScotchEgg]

http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-leaked-screenshots

they're not really leaked as someone else mentioned...

[claudiu]

Since they'er 4 months old you can't say much about the UI. The article says the UI looks different now.

But we can see the graphics...

Graphics look like they fall somewhere between LoL and HoN.

as i was saying:
http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

[Suda]

http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-leaked-screenshots

they're not really leaked as someone else mentioned...

kk there

Go post in offtopic so i can read sum

[LadyGaga]

I like the Graphics.


Hit just the right spot between not looking to cartoony, but not looking akward for trying to look too realistic...

[Sillyboy]

When we first saw D3 gameplay footage.

QQ RAINBOWS, WAHHHH ITS TOO BRIGHT AND CARTOONY.

Yup
This will fade.
people will get used to it or stop caring enough to cry.

[kirbyruled]

DotA 2 thread ;p

[Sillyboy]

Well aware.
But it deserves its own thread, because its also about diablo 3? :O

[MA121]

really, there's already 2 good games out

sure DoTA will have a huge influx at the beginning, give it a month, and then you will know whether or not it has lasting appeal

I'm still unsure of Valve, they aren't MoBA devs, they are FPS devs and a corporate company with vision on the grand scale of amassing new players

They can't make the learning curve too big
oh i wasnt aware S2 (the only game they made before HoN was a strategical TPS) and Riot were MOBA devs.

but in reality, S2 is the least experienced out of MOBA creators.

IceFrog has his own team at Valve.. he is making the game. Valve is only supplying him the team to code it and market it. So right there is a better understanding of MOBAs than S2.

[Kudas]

Looks ok, I will wait on Dota 3.

[Grim]

4 months old.
probably not set on high video options since it's for testing.
Those screenshots made me even more hyped.

[K1R1S]

http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-leaked-screenshots

they're not really leaked as someone else mentioned...

They are indeed leaked. You do realize that dota-two.com is a FAN site right? Not official.

[Suda]

They are indeed leaked. You do realize that dota-two.com is a FAN site right? Not official.

It's the best we got son go post your's then.

[LadyGaga]

More pics here

http://5z8.info/gruesome-gunshot-wounds_l0i7xr_nakedgrandmas.jpg
Try hiding your url next time. It helps when we don't see "aked grandmas."

[R2L3372]

oh i wasnt aware S2 (the only game they made before HoN was a strategical TPS) and Riot were MOBA devs.

but in reality, S2 is the least experienced out of MOBA creators.

IceFrog has his own team at Valve.. he is making the game. Valve is only supplying him the team to code it and market it. So right there is a better understanding of MOBAs than S2.

true

S2 isn't as big as Valve and has less need to adhere to their friendly image

[Luka]

oh i wasnt aware S2 (the only game they made before HoN was a strategical TPS) and Riot were MOBA devs.

but in reality, S2 is the least experienced out of MOBA creators.

IceFrog has his own team at Valve.. he is making the game. Valve is only supplying him the team to code it. So right there is a better understanding of MOBAs than S2.

You are aware that Icefrog did not make Dota, he merely continued it. About half of the heroes were introduced during his reign, but almost everythign else was already introduced into the game beforehand including the basic mechanics like hero kill streaks and such.

Icefrog Isn't the rainman that people make him out to be.

[Suda]

Try hiding your url next time. It helps when we don't see "aked grandmas."

LETS HAVE SUM FUN THIS BEAT IS SICK I WANNA .. dnawljdnwkajndawlndma

This song is gona be stuck in my head for the rest of the day ffs THANK YOU/.awd



You are aware that Icefrog did not make Dota, he merely continued it. About half of the heroes were introduced during his reign, but almost everythign else was already introduced into the game beforehand including the basic mechanics like hero kill streaks and such.

Icefrog Isn't the rainman that people make him out to be.
Harry potter chick is right yo.

[Ezzik]

http://i.imgur.com/yg5za.gif

grrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooooouunnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ScotchEgg]

Try hiding your url next time. It helps when we don't see "aked grandmas."

Almost clicked it anyway, I'd look at some gruesome gunshot wounds...

[ScotchEgg]

Icefrog Isn't the rainman that people make him out to be.

Doesn't need to be.

Name 1 other person that could potentially design a better sequel to Dota.

[Ezzik]

awwww man i just got roll ricked

[MA121]

You are aware that Icefrog did not make Dota, he merely continued it. About half of the heroes were introduced during his reign, but almost everythign else was already introduced into the game beforehand including the basic mechanics like hero kill streaks and such.

Icefrog Isn't the rainman that people make him out to be.
Can't find the relevance here.

You act like you're educating me but really you seem uneducated on the subject yourself. IceFrog has done a lot more for DotA than you probably think and has balanced and added on to the game in amazing ways. His improvements and additions onto the game more than qualify him for everything I said in my post, so that's why I don't see the relevance of your post.

[Vredezbyrd]

Dota 2 = Valve / Icefraud
HoN = Neither of those things.

I know what I'll be playing.

[S2Jesse]

Looks pretty awesome to me. This is just the icing on the cake when it comes to inspiration for stepping up our game. We haven't really been pushed much over the past few years, on the art side of things, so I know we welcome the competition. It can only make hon better.

Jesse

[Hax]

i guess u never played wtf mode in dota :D
it's all about getting BKB(shurnken head) :p (Also Kelen's Dagger(PK) is huge fun)

Wasn't wtf infinite mana, no cooldowns?

That's not wild mode.

[haschisch]

If those are non-fake screenshots I kind of feel a bit sorry for the people that want to emigrate.

Also: No damage spread? WTF?

[MA121]

Dota 2 = Valve / Icefraud
HoN = Neither of those things.

I know what I'll be playing.
Why do people call him IceFraud?

Because of that fishy blog post that had no evidential backings at all aside from the stuff we already knew (him working with then leaving S2)?

[Atrim3ntus]

At the moment I like HoN graphics better and its UI is by far the best of them all. I can get used to LoL and dota 2 graphics but their UI is just puke

[ScotchEgg]

We haven't really been pushed much over the past few years, on the art side of things, so I know we welcome the competition.

...unless you consider churning out 100 alternate models for heroes for F2P cash flow else your game completely dies a "push"

[Luka]

Can't find the relevance here.

You act like you're educating me but really you seem uneducated on the subject yourself. IceFrog has done a lot more for DotA than you probably think and has balanced and added on to the game in amazing ways. His improvements and additions onto the game more than qualify him for everything I said in my post, so that's why I don't see the relevance of your post.

Well your ignorance is showing, you obviously didn't play Dota in RoC, or FT pre Icefrog.

If you want a REAL Dota genre creator, try EOTA or TOB. They were excellent, and balanced well. Throwing money at a game title like Dota 2 wont make the game any better, other than visual appeal.

Imo Dota 2 looks alot like Bloodline champions
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bloodline-champions-screenshots-2.jpg

Dota 2:
http://www.dota-two.com/img/articles/dota2-leaked-screenshot-sf.jpg

[Kzod]

what are you talking about diablo 3's graphics are ****ing amazing

[MA121]

Well your ignorance is showing, you obviously didn't play Dota in RoC, or FT pre Icefrog.

If you want a REAL Dota genre creator, try EOTA or TOB. They were excellent, and balanced well. Throwing money at a game title like Dota 2 wont make the game any better, other than visual appeal.

Imo Dota 2 looks alot like Bloodline champions
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bloodline-champions-screenshots-2.jpg

Dota 2:
http://www.dota-two.com/img/articles/dota2-leaked-screenshot-sf.jpg
Do you know how long IceFrog has been making DotA for? To try to belittle his experience and backings on the genre is the only thing ignorant here. It honestly seems like you have no idea about DotA and just heard that IceFrog wasn't the original creator so that's your only argument.

I don't get how you can claim I'm being ignorant. It doesn't make any sense at all. I've been playing DotA since RoC and I know how the game has evolved with each passing developer.

Also.. visuals.. again.. relevance?

[Vredezbyrd]

Why do people call him IceFraud?

Because of that fishy blog post that had no evidential backings at all aside from the stuff we already knew (him working with then leaving S2)?

Plenty of ''evidence'' floating about those blog posts.

Half the reason his called IceFraud is the fact he lied about working at S2 (150% proven point) when pitching the Dota2 idea to Valve.

[Kzod]

People who are haters will understand the graphics when they see the game in action. There is an absence of clutter and tons of worthless detail for a reason. You can tell that valve is trying to put emphasis on the heroes over the environment. Just look at the love they gave doom bringer. Also I think there are some unexpected treats in store that a lot of people may have forgotten. In the announcement interview they said heroes would talk to each other. I am hoping for some nice interactive animations, similar to TF2's.

Haters gonna hate, they won't be after Gamescon though. And if they still are hating after that then when DotA 2 comes out they will have no one to play with in HoN. LOL!
This guy has seen 2 screenshots, and he already has big Gaben's **** stuck deep in his throat

[Devonrex]

dota 3 will fix it.

[Mashisuh]

dude... that looks exactly like LoL.... GIGA SIGH...

[Maulrat]

Plenty of ''evidence'' floating about those blog posts.

Half the reason his called IceFraud is the fact he lied about working at S2 (150% proven point) when pitching the Dota2 idea to Valve.

Pro move by Icefrog or what? You use what you got to win... this is the real world mate not some fairy tale.

[Atrim3ntus]

This guy has seen 2 screenshots, and he already has big Gaben's **** stuck deep in his throat
I literally just LMAO IRL

[Terribad]

It looks very nice. The people who say it looks bad most likely fall under one of these points

1) Looked at a small resolution screenshot and didn't notice all of the small details. (look at the full doom bringer one)

2) Are the type of people who always react to everything new negatively.

3) Need to get their eyes checked or are simply stupid. (It doesn't look like LoL at all)

If someone genuinely thinks it looks bad I'd love to classify them under "stupid" too, but some people just have shitty taste.

[Ryuusan]

Hero List Pic:

http://i.imgur.com/Prxu6.png

[seke]

So many int heroes.

[Pro]

http://www.dota-two.com/img/articles/Valve-Invitation-to-Tournament.jpg

[Pro]

anyone who thinks these screens are final is a moron, beta hasn't even started. Do you remember what HoN looked like in beta?

Mainmenu
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/k6b6l0j3/shot0000.jpg

Blind team SD-Pick
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/40wgcpa3/shot0006.jpg

Aftermatch-stats
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/fc26jjk4/shot0008.jpg

Game-lobby
http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/h55u1bh4/shot0009.jpg

Unfortunately I don't have old screens of the spec UI before replays were even introduced but it looked horrible.

And yes I started playing long time before there was even replays.

[rCore]

anyone who thinks these screens are final is a moron, beta hasn't even started. Do you remember what HoN looked like in beta?

Mainmenu
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/k6b6l0j3/shot0000.jpg

Blind team SD-Pick
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/40wgcpa3/shot0006.jpg

Aftermatch-stats
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/fc26jjk4/shot0008.jpg

Game-lobby
http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/h55u1bh4/shot0009.jpg

Unfortunately I don't have old screens of the spec UI before replays were even introduced but it looked horrible.

And yes I started playing long time before there was even replays.


Apples and oranges, S2 is an indie company and they were limited by their budget, which only started increasing once they started selling the game, allowing them to improve their User interface.

If I need a design and I have 200$ at first, I will go with an amateur designer, and once I earn money out of my website I will improve it with a professional one.

Valve has the money for the professional right away.

Not saying valve won't change it though, I have experience in UI designing and I think one of the most recurring things in a game like dota is checking your gold. It should be way more centered on the screen.

[Uomoz]

Best guessings

http://i.imgur.com/Prxu6.png
http://i52.tinypic.com/1sk4k9.jpg

[Z3ROCOOL22]

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb401/z3rocool22/Tobi-Wan-Kenobi-Chat.jpg

[HonchCrow]

Best guessings


http://i.imgur.com/vHDGp.jpg

You had a few wrong, this one is right.

[RUSty_]

http://i.imgur.com/vHDGp.jpg

You had a few wrong, this one is right.
WRONG, top right is NS and its not axe, its CK.;)

[HonchCrow]

WRONG, top right is NS and its not axe, its CK.;)
No
4char

[MA121]

WRONG, top right is NS and its not axe, its CK.;)
uhh....

[Pro]

Apples and oranges, S2 is an indie company and they were limited by their budget, which only started increasing once they started selling the game, allowing them to improve their User interface.

If I need a design and I have 200$ at first, I will go with an amateur designer, and once I earn money out of my website I will improve it with a professional one.

Valve has the money for the professional right away.

Not saying valve won't change it though, I have experience in UI designing and I think one of the most recurring things in a game like dota is checking your gold. It should be way more centered on the screen.

Totally disagree. I don't see how such huge flaws like being able to see teammates Draws would cost any mentionable money to implement. They simply didn't think about it.

There was much much more that they implemented after many players suggested "mhh wouldn't it be cool if...." UI-wise. That's why S2 has implemented many features from Modders into the game itself. They simply didn't think about it. As players test and play you find (sometimes very obvious) improvements.

But we will see wednesday. The UI will have changed for sure. Those screens are like what? 6 months old? Placeholders for the alphastage.

We will see wednesday how kickass it is.

Can't wait *drool*

[rCore]

Totally disagree. I don't see how such huge flaws like being able to see teammates Draws would cost any mentionable money to implement. They simply didn't think about it.

There was much much more that they implemented after many players suggested "mhh wouldn't it be cool if...." UI-wise. That's why S2 has implemented many features from Modders into the game itself. They simply didn't think about it. As players test and play you find (sometimes very obvious) improvements.

But we will see wednesday. The UI will have changed for sure. Those screens are like what? 6 months old? Placeholders for the alphastage.

We will see wednesday how kickass it is.

Can't wait *drool*

I think people are putting way too much weight on the fact that those screenshots might be old.

What if nothing has changed? I think someone by now would have said so clearly. it seems like some people want to convince themselves this can't be real, yet i don't see what's wrong with it. To me it seems pretty solid and I honestly expected something quite similar to what has been shown, but that's probably because I did the effort of thinking how it could be given the current trends (blizzard sets them, and they went with a similar formula for diablo 3) given the engine, the artists working on the project and the techincal limitations, what we're seeing now could perfectly be what we'll see the release day, and I already like it.

And yeah, they didnt think about it because they were amateurish UI designers. A good UI designer would have thought of ways to improve things instead of just copying what Dota had, with its limitations.

[Marsholade]

http://i.imgur.com/vHDGp.jpg

You had a few wrong, this one is right.


Well that's obviously not all the heroes because...

:O :O

Where's Jugg? So I'm guessing this is decently old.

[man_guy]

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb401/z3rocool22/Tobi-Wan-Kenobi-Chat.jpg
guy: Do you mind if I post this publicly?
Tobi: yes
guy: (posts anyway)

[Anchovies]

I'm a bit disappointed by the art style of these hero icons - they just seem very generic and cartoony, almost pokemon-like. Hope the game-play makes up for it. On second thought, may be that's why they have a $1m tournament - there might be a lot to compensate for.

[kerespup]

Looks pretty awesome to me. This is just the icing on the cake when it comes to inspiration for stepping up our game. We haven't really been pushed much over the past few years, on the art side of things, so I know we welcome the competition. It can only make hon better.

Jesse

Nice to see that the Art Team is very pumped and willing to step their game up :)

[patricken]

wtf have they done with nevermore, he looks so ugly compared to dota

[rCore]

Btw, im loving the look of Sven, color combination and the robotic feel is amazing, reminds me of some DMC4 creature.

[Dawnbringer]

holy **** hon gets faster leaks than the dota 2 fan site and the dota 2 forums lmao

but damn i kinda expected more on graphics but hey its all about gameplay, it better be as fast paced as hon right? i mean its icefrog balancing the game so that means no more op heros and ****

gotta admit hon graphics > dota 2 ill give s2 that
Have you PLAYED 6.7? Have you SEEN tuskarr?

With Icefrog it generally takes 2-3 patches to balance a hero.

1st release: Grossly OP/UP
1st Patch: Gets sent to other end of spectrum (OP -> UP, UP -> OP)
2nd Patch: Roughly balanced.

What I am wondering is why that vengeful spirit only has 29 creep kills, 1 creep deny and somehow has 8 hero kills and 16 assists :/.

[xollen]

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z418/ixray89/sadasdas.png

[Dyzfunkshun]

What I am wondering is why that vengeful spirit only has 29 creep kills, 1 creep deny and somehow has 8 hero kills and 16 assists :/.
Given that VS is a hardcore support hero that is focused very much on ganking and fighting with her team, it's not remotely surprising that she has far more in the way of hero kills than creep kills.

[Skyve]

God, what the hell did they do to Furion's face? :(

Same for Storm Spirit.

Now I'm a sad panda. Because he isn't a panda anymore.

[Dawnbringer]

Given that VS is a hardcore support hero that is focused very much on ganking and fighting with her team, it's not remotely surprising that she has far more in the way of hero kills than creep kills.
What i'm saying is that she should have less kills, more assists and more denies :(

Also she is lvl 15 and somehow has 1700 hp :O (I'm kinda curious what the item in the 3rd slot is, I assume 1st is urn of shadows, 2nd is magic wand, boots is one of the bottom 2 but I don't know what the 3rd slot is :/.

EDIT: Boots 5th, TP 6th and she has +27 str, +13 int and +13 agi so I believe she may have power treads and the final item is Aghanims in 3rd slot.

:) That would explain the 1700 hp :P

EDIT: Actually not sure if it is Aghanims or not since her ult appears to have a 22 sec cooldown. That said she may have just bought it. Could be Janggo of Endurance?

[Machiavelli`]

They have Pharaoh already, I'm moving

[decayed`cell]

I think I will not sleep the next 2 days,I'm way too hyped,read all articles I could find,analised every screenshoot for like 5 mins,I'm going crazy :)

[_Wolf_]

now they are starting to quarantine Dota 2 threads XD

AAaaaa I think someone is getting butt hurt >.>

Jk, its because so many ppl are talkin about Dota 2 and its causing arguments *shrug*

[colondee]

ugly awful game with disbalanced mechanics... imagine that nobody ever played hon before they released it... it would be madness... engineer, fayde, etc. MADNESS of inbalance

[Phakkz]

Game looks really nice, and the fact that they'll have :wret::glad::tort::devo: makes me horny.


Bye S2

[RYYYYY]

inb4 real leak:

http://i.imgur.com/pDSSw.jpg

[_Wolf_]

holy **** hon gets faster leaks than the dota 2 fan site and the dota 2 forums lmao

but damn i kinda expected more on graphics but hey its all about gameplay, it better be as fast paced as hon right? i mean its icefrog balancing the game so that means no more op heros and ****

gotta admit hon graphics > dota 2 ill give s2 that


You sir are abit of a moron. Screenshots do no justice to a game :-p

Save the bashing till AFTER YOU have played it or seen it in action. Valve's engine is more advanced and more powerful then S2's. That has been proven.

[colondee]

You sir are abit of a moron. Screenshots do no justice to a game :-p

Save the bashing till AFTER YOU have played it or seen it in action. Valve's engine is more advanced and more powerful then S2's. That has been proven.

PROVEN 100% that the moron is you, not him

[IceFrogisGod]

Strong jokes coming from the people saying HoN looks better or that Dota 2 looks like garbage. Open your eyes.

[Naib]

Strong jokes coming from the people saying HoN looks better or that Dota 2 looks like garbage. Open your eyes.

Its their opinion and they are entitled to it

[_Wolf_]

PROVEN 100% that the moron is you, not him

then provide evidence? I can show you a tech demo of Source on its first show case then a mod that brings sources true powers out. What can you prove in defense? Savage? Savage 2? Same engine, just updated.

[Lasagna]

The last option on the poll would be in the lead if they didn't close it.

[_Wolf_]

Strong jokes coming from the people saying HoN looks better or that Dota 2 looks like garbage. Open your eyes.

As the mod said, their opinion.

And mine is they are HoN fanboys :-p They'll defend HoN even while the servers are taken down. I mean, Look at the recent Star Wars Galaxies thing....pretty much what FanBoys do.

[Ashlan]

2 days and we can see how the game really look like, and how it work, just wait.

[DasStefan]

i simply cant wait for it, since s2 ruined their own game

[ESLFavion]

I love what they did with the map, it looks fantastic.

[IceFrogisGod]

Its their opinion and they are entitled to it

Their opinion is deluded and erroneous.

[Pomff]

Hate to have to pay twice for very similar games, but between paying S2 more money than the $30 retail I paid or paying for DotA 2 I'd rather just go for DotA 2 and pray they don't dick me the same.

[Malaevalos]

As the mod said, their opinion.

And mine is they are HoN fanboys :-p They'll defend HoN even while the servers are taken down. I mean, Look at the recent Star Wars Galaxies thing....pretty much what FanBoys do.

lawl stop saying ''fanboy''

[Naib]

Their opinion is deluded and erroneous.

But the thing is from their point of view your opinion is deluded and erroneous.
Thats the thing about opinions we all have them.
The problem that is going on here is you have people claiming that dota2 will kill hon and people claiming dota2 won't kill hon

but the fact is dota2 isn't out yet so from the dota2 camp it is pure speculation

so I will say it again, it is their opinion. Either counter their opinion with facts or drop it.

might have to start going militant in this thread if people can't play well with each other

[Nightstrife]

You sir are abit of a moron. Screenshots do no justice to a game :-p

Save the bashing till AFTER YOU have played it or seen it in action. Valve's engine is more advanced and more powerful then S2's. That has been proven.

umm im not bashing just stating my preference in graphics and i like s2's better but dota will be sick by the looks of it

[IceFrogisGod]

but the fact is dota2 isn't out yet so from the dota2 camp it is pure speculation

It's not speculation as we have just received leaked screenshots and anyone with eyes can see that Dota 2 is cleaner, more aesthetically pleasing and far more stylish than Heroes of Newerth.

And please, for the love of god, don't go militant O Ye Powerful Mod. PLEASE, SPARE US.

[Anchovies]

Dota 2 is stylish.. If u like pokemon.

[Naib]

It's not speculation as we have just received leaked screenshots and anyone with eyes can see that Dota 2 is cleaner, more aesthetically pleasing and far more stylish than Heroes of Newerth.

And please, for the love of god, don't go militant O Ye Powerful Mod. PLEASE, SPARE US.

But thats just screenshot and the artistic style people perfer is downto their preference. Some people actually like the LoL artstyle, I personally don't.
The screenshots for dota2 do look nice, but that doesn't change the fact I personally think hon looks nice so I could equally play them from a graphics point of view


HOWEVER all that is avaliable is screenshots of dota2. NOTHING todo with game mechanics, how fluid, what has changed (and things will have changed)


come wednesday well thats different but right now it is pure speculation and hope, hope that is vergining on religious zealotism. But come wednesday i would expect dota2 discussion to leave hon forums and goto dota2 forums.

Do you think Microsoft would put up with apple selling their wares in MS shops? I don't think so

[Skyve]

It's not speculation as we have just received leaked screenshots and anyone with eyes can see that Dota 2 is cleaner, more aesthetically pleasing and far more stylish than Heroes of Newerth.

Aesthetically pleasing to some. It's an opinion, don't try to state it as a fact.

[The_Torch]

S2 mad that the game will die so they bury a dota 2 thread in off topic with a horrible and biased poll. S2 stop trolling your playerbase.

[Ripoff]

I was quite hopefull for DoTa 2, being a former DoTa player.

But.. Those screenshots was rather dissapointing. I must say I like HoNs graphics better. And the tree's are gone from the fountain, why?=/

It looks like a crossover from LoL and HoN tbh. Cartoony like LoL, but darker and better graphics.

I was a dota 2 fanboy, gimme Darkseer<-, but now? Meh, I will still buy it, but I do believe I will play HoN more then dota 2. (btw, vengefull spirit looks like crap)

[ZabatieL]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3201-Graphics-vs-Aesthetics

[Skyve]

(btw, vengefull spirit looks like crap)

Yeah, she just doesn't have the aestethics Andro has.

[Naib]

S2 mad that the game will die so they bury a dota 2 thread in off topic with a horrible and biased poll. S2 stop trolling your playerbase.

Why don't you take dota2 discussions to dota2 forums rather than on HoN forums

[cg_drawchat0]

I was quite hopefull for DoTa 2, being a former DoTa player.

But.. Those screenshots was rather dissapointing. I must say I like HoNs graphics better. And the tree's are gone from the fountain, why?=/

It looks like a crossover from LoL and HoN tbh. Cartoony like LoL, but darker and better graphics.

I was a dota 2 fanboy, gimme Darkseer<-, but now? Meh, I will still buy it, but I do believe I will play HoN more then dota 2. (btw, vengefull spirit looks like crap)

I played DotA not for the graphics. I only quit DotA after 7 years to join HoN due to a more flowing engine. I gonna switch to Dota2, even when the graphics would be like Wc3 or D2 again. Many ppl think the same way and im sure you are no real former DotA player. You may played it once a day or so...

[Nomzy]

all those screens are 3 months old..

[XxSasorixX]

Just saw a picture of the Roster, before the thread in GD got deleted. Is there only going to be a limited hero pool in the first release?

[Skyve]

It's still a while till the release of the game, but we will see how many heroes are already added in 2 days.

[Exile4eva]

i will only move to dota2 if HoN's playerbase takes a big knock. a lot of people seem upset with s2 and i wonder how/if that will affect player numbers.

[Nightstrife]

soz LoL sees Dota2's 1 million and has raised it to 5 mlllion...
Dota2 better raise their tourney prize pool to 10 million to beat LoL's

xD

[Kenpachi1337]

alm0st time 2 leave H0N i see

[``QQ]

At the end of the day the community keeps a game alive. And well, the HoN community... I just say "Russia&Eastern Europe FTW!"...

[IceFrogisGod]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3201-Graphics-vs-Aesthetics

I can only hope that mod watches this video.

[Yukki]

Just saw a picture of the Roster, before the thread in GD got deleted. Is there only going to be a limited hero pool in the first release?
Well kind of, but there will be more than it was on that picture, heck it will probably be some more heroes at Gamescom. Yurnero isn't even on the list (if it's him on the fan-art) to name only one thing. (He's :swif: )

[Naib]

I can only hope that mod watches this video.

that mod has and it still doesn't change the fact it is a personal opinion as to what you like compared to what someone else likes.
And an opinion is NOT fact.

do you understand? because this is exactly what I was talking about when I was talking about going all militant on this thread

[iruul]

The UI takes up way too much space. Hope they have mods and I can get a mini UI replacement.

[Jareth]

soz LoL sees Dota2's 1 million and has raised it to 5 mlllion...
Dota2 better raise their tourney prize pool to 10 million to beat LoL's

xD

5 million spread over a whole season (lasts at least a year) vs 1 million 1st place prize money for a single tournament.

Not taking sides but just wanted to point out the difference to you. :)

[Uomoz]

@HonchCrow

featured XD

http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-leaked-screenshots#disqus_thread

[Ripoff]

I played DotA not for the graphics. I only quit DotA after 7 years to join HoN due to a more flowing engine. I gonna switch to Dota2, even when the graphics would be like Wc3 or D2 again. Many ppl think the same way and im sure you are no real former DotA player. You may played it once a day or so...

Have your opinion mate, but dont draw conclusion like that. I've played ALOT of dota (and still do). Got hundreds of screenshots in my wc3 map folder from DotA.

[IceFrogisGod]

that mod has and it still doesn't change the fact it is a personal opinion as to what you like compared to what someone else likes

do you understand

Yes, ultimately some players will enjoy Heroes of Newerth's Medal of Honor-esque horridly boring, bland palette compared to a more TF2-esque Dota 2 palette, but a majority of players are going to enjoy the latter. We've already witnessed how players respond to vibrant vs. dull in multiple titles (given multiple examples in the video) and will undoubtedly see it again in HoN v. Dota 2. HoN's aesthetics are forgettable, Dota 2 "pops".

[Ishmeister]

But come wednesday i would expect dota2 discussion to leave hon forums and goto dota2 forums.

Do you think Microsoft would put up with apple selling their wares in MS shops? I don't think so

WAIT, what?! Are you serious or is this just your personal wishing? This is the OFF TOPIC forum where OFF TOPIC matters, non related to HoN are discussed.

Seriously now, it is statements like these that make me worry. If S2 enforces this I would be ashamed. Furthermore, if this is enforced, I want the same treatment with all other games.

Without sounding offensive, but Naib, get real.

Jesse: It's cool to see someone from S2 appreciating the art. At first I was taken aback, but as of lately it has grown on me. Reminds me when I first started playing HoN. It felt so odd, but it grew on me as well. I hope it turns out as good as I expect it to :) Are you gonna give it a try?

[Corpsy]

Can anyone post the link of the site where the tournament will happen?

[decayed`cell]

twitch.tv probably

[ssj3]

www.joindota.com will cast english stream

[Naib]

Yes, ultimately some players will enjoy Heroes of Newerth's Medal of Honor-esque horridly boring, bland palette compared to a more TF2-esque Dota 2 palette, but a majority of players are going to enjoy the latter. We've already witnessed how players respond to vibrant vs. dull in multiple titles (given multiple examples in the video) and will undoubtedly see it again in HoN v. Dota 2. HoN's aesthetics are forgettable, Dota 2 "pops".

See again that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[Naib]

WAIT, what?! Are you serious or is this just your personal wishing? This is the OFF TOPIC forum where OFF TOPIC matters, non related to HoN are discussed.

Seriously now, it is statements like these that make me worry. If S2 enforces this I would be ashamed. Furthermore, if this is enforced, I want the same treatment with all other games.

Without sounding offensive, but Naib, get real.

Jesse: It's cool to see someone from S2 appreciating the art. At first I was taken aback, but as of lately it has grown on me. Reminds me when I first started playing HoN. It felt so odd, but it grew on me as well. I hope it turns out as good as I expect it to :) Are you gonna give it a try?


You need to calm down, read what I wrote and stop trying to cause drama.

I would expect dota2 discussion to goto a dota2 forum by wednesday simply because this is essencially their debut so valve should have a section up.
Why not discuss dota2 things on the dota2 forums? I fail to see why you wouldn't want to

sure carry on posting in this dumping ground of a thread if you so wish BUT there is zero cohearsion in this thread as all the other threads get merged into here

but fine feel free to carry on using this thread while the real dota2 fans goto a forum

[RocKai]

Without saying anything constructive at all, I'd say that the pie of S2 and Riot will have its older cousin coming back to the seat and definitely his fat ass is going all Nom Nom on this pie. (The player base will be shared between the threes + oldies coming back for all new Dota 2).

Personally, I like to play in a game where all my retarded friends who play LoL can come together and play Dota 2 (so I could own their asses having play HoN), and still play HoN with my clan and friends (Because of kick ass "aesthetics" and gameplay).

Down with Micropayment system :scou:

[Exci]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3201-Graphics-vs-Aesthetics

Since when is a flat, dead background "aesthetic" ?

[Skyve]

Since when is a flat, dead background "aesthetic" ?

You didn't really understand what he was trying to say, did you?

[Juuto]

I dunno why people compare LoL and Dota like they're in the same league tbh. LoL vs HoN was always about which is the better game, but in the end, LoL and HoN have very, very different audiences and LoL will survive a few people moving on over to Dota 2 and LoL.

I don't see HoN surviving though. It's basically what Dota 2 will be, but without gimmicky heroes being released every 2 weeks who are stupidly overpowered to the point where you know S2 doesn't give a damn about the "SBT". Why play HoN when Dota 2 will be the same kind of experience on a higher level? There is no reason.