The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread

[sco0t]

Legacy playerbase will leave for DotA 2 which is why S2 made HoN f2p so that they can create a new playerbase before DotA 2 comes along. Legacy players nerdrage a lot whilst maliken sits back and ahs everything according to plan. Obvious much?
Speak for yourself. I'm not moving to DOTA 2.

[dmae]

Y are an IDIOT. Dota 2 will crush everything. DOTA community is millions not thousands like HON or LOL. 99% of us are from DOTA no reason staying here.

S2 is a HUGE fail.

LoL has 15 million accounts
HoN has 4 million accounts

So I wouldn't call it 'thousands'

:mart:

[DoctorSpoon]

The amount of stupidity in this thread is shocking.

You guys hail graphics as a crucial part of the game as if you were all a bunch of 10 year old ****ing Call of Duty players, graphics mean ****, I turn mine down all the way for more FPS you scrubs

I'de rather have one well thought out and balanced hero every month or two months instead of one slopped onto a conveyor line that is probably a bunch of random ported skills (myrmadon).


I swear a bunch of ****ing 12 year olds player this game I can't even stand it anymore, go play lousy consoles

[Steffen]

Although it hasn't been confirmed I'm 99% sure it will be.

I think you can use the ingame-steam-stuff-interface with EVERY game you start through the steam-shortcut (when you added it to the steam library)

It's only buggy on some (especially old) games, as far as I remember, and heavily heavily doubt that will be the case on a valve game...

[Belmondo]

why discuss something you havent seen
makes no sense

[IMMvp]

Play the better game when it comes out?

???

Profitz

[m_or]

Last year: "Why don't you release more heroes S2! Sick of waiting a month or two for every new hero ;_;"

Today: "OMG sick and tired of imba S2 heroes! They suck, i want techies/furion/phantom lancer, stop releasing them plz! ;_;


Good luck with d2, when valve starts raping the game as soon as they see their profit margins dwindle, go look up tf2s development history, s2 are saints compared to that **** mp company

(i will still play dota2, but i expect to stop playing it after a year - year and a half when valve starts its turd making process)

[Radiohead]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/dota2b.jpg/

edit: now im not really sure because it looks like s2 sotis..

It doesn't look like the guy on the left is playing SC2. Unit portrait on the left + Huge healthbars + 4 icons that are probably skills? Interesting. :pyro:

[fungee]

why discuss something you havent seen
makes no sense

You make no sense. On the other hand $1.6 million DotA 2 tournament (First Public Showing at Gamescom) before the game is even published doesn't make much sense to me either. At least it makes everyone interested (me included) super hyped.

[MA121]

HoN
- S2Games
This one seals the deal.

DotA 2 here I come!

[Sournips]

It's being made by Valve.....nuff said.

[GhettoJesus]

gotta agree that valve aren't reliable, the last few TF2 weapons(tomislav/cowmangler) were released then majorly nerfed into the ground 1 week after.

Some luid scheme to generate more money. CM5k was very much intentionally designed this way.

[MA121]

gotta agree that valve aren't reliable, the last few TF2 weapons(tomislav/cowmangler) were released then majorly nerfed into the ground 1 week after.

Some luid scheme to generate more money. CM5k was very much intentionally designed this way.
Good thing IceFrog has complete creative control.

[Rodah]

Maybe. Because
- You pay $30-40 again to play DotA Heroes (also in HoN)
- Same Graphics
- Same Server Location
- Same system
- Same Mechanics
- Same retards/trolls

But

DotA
- Wait 2-3 months for 2 new heroes
- IceFraud
- No more Scout, Too bad! It's me Blacksmith

HoN
- Wait 2 weeks for 1 heroes
- S2Games

So you want new heroes every 2 weeks? Real scrub.

[Valdyz]

I really hope that the majority of this community of raging kids and dota fans which scream over every S2 action, will move to DotA2, so I can continue playing HoN with a much friendlier community.

[Feroci0us]

99% of us are from DOTA no reason staying here.


That´s purely your way of thinking and is not by any means true.

I see a lot of reason to play still play HoN but I wont even bother to list them since everyone already knows how great game HoN is and Dota 2 will most likely turn out to be a disappointment.

[TENGILTROSA]

diablo3 will fail cause they will have microtransactions...no offline play...and an auction house...which means trading items that you find with other playes will be possible only with real money

WoW has Micro Transactions, wow doesn't have offline play, wow has an auction house with in-game currency (which d3 will have too) but d3 ALSO has one for real-life currency.

[BlooDByte]

i will play HoN only for scout <3

[Syncz]

Really dont think Dota 2 will be a fail. See alot of arguments that Dota 2 wont get new heroes as often as HoN, but the thing is... They dont need new heroes that often. Dota has loads of fun heroes. Think many of HoN players only play HoN cos its lagfree (mostly) and will revert back to Dota 2 when they fix servers and such ^^ (and a good leave system)

[TheOtherOne]

A lot of you guys really have a twisted perspective on this game. Do you even realize how far DotA came considering that it was basically ran by volunteers? Pendragon, Guinsoo, Icefrog were random kids building a custom map on Blizzard's Warcraft engine, not video game production companies. The fact that DotA is such a popular, advanced, independent custom map while having no input whatsoever from Blizzard, is amazing.

S2 came along and gained their own little fanboy following by taking the game and literally copying every single important aspect of it. HoN required zero imagination whatsoever because the map, the core heroes, the skills, the items, even details as obscure as maximum movespeed was spoonfed to them. All they had to do was build their own game engine with reconnect, antileaver, and matchmaking functionality and they had a ****ing business model.

With the existence of HoN's engine with those important functionalities and some others, DotA became unplayable for me and many others. But the only reason those were limitations in DotA is because they didn't have their own engine. Those convenience features are going to be the FIRST things ported to DotA 2 and instantly there will be no more reason to play HoN.

On a brand new engine they will make from scratch, everything will be completely customizable. Everything that makes HoN better, DotA 2 will have.

EDIT: I would love it if DotA 2 ported a couple of the best S2 heroes. I think it would be funny to see if S2 tries to put up a fight about it.

[iLikeRain]

A lot of you guys really have a twisted perspective on this game. Do you even realize how far DotA came considering that it was basically ran by volunteers? Pendragon, Guinsoo, Icefrog were random kids building a custom map on Blizzard's Warcraft engine, not video game production companies. The fact that DotA is such a popular, advanced, independent custom map while having no input whatsoever from Blizzard, is amazing.

S2 came along and gained their own little fanboy following by taking the game and literally copying every single important aspect of it. HoN required zero imagination whatsoever because the map, the core heroes, the skills, the items, even details as obscure as maximum movespeed was spoonfed to them. All they had to do was build their own game engine with reconnect, antileaver, and matchmaking functionality and they had a ****ing business model.

With the existence of HoN's engine with those important functionalities and some others, DotA became unplayable for me and many others. But the only reason those were limitations in DotA is because they didn't have their own engine. Those convenience features are going to be the FIRST things ported to DotA 2 and instantly there will be no more reason to play HoN.

On a brand new engine they will make from scratch, everything will be completely customizable. Everything that makes HoN better, DotA 2 will have.^

No more :silh::damp: ****.

[baho]

Brand new engine made from scratch? Ever heard of Source? It's as old as your grandma.

[Serasboy]

OMfg why cant u just play both, u can only play one game???...

Oh i see u got an hardisk of 1gb free only

the other 1.5 terabytes are full with porn sorry u are right what was i thinking...

[KevinCorp]

People seem to be forgetting that there is a good chance dota 2 will be ftp as well. Since the interview with Steam developers regarding ftp and their statement that they would be releasing new ftp games that roughly coincide with dota 2's release, there is a good chance dota 2 will also be ftp. Thus, meaning it will be expensive to own every hero as it is in LoL and now HoN.

[_Wolf_]

then you obviously know nothing about Valve OP. Dota 2 will gain pretty much the entire moab community. why? because its dota and valve.

[lazyfarmer]

Player27 has it.

My hopes in S2 dissapeared when they implemented striders and blood chalice. After that it just got ALOT worse implementing heroes like myrmadon (the skillset of this int hero is a laugh) and deciding too add one hero every 2 weeks without putting any thought behind them (like what they would achive in the current meta game).

awesome items awesome hero.
My god sop much whine.
Old tard who cant accept anything new
dota sucked, and still sucks and willl still suck the next time i will play it, and thats about never.

[W1nch3st35]

when is people going to realize that it is just dota with a better engine.

its still a game where you need to buy valk ulti to gank someone :>

[ShiZz`]

You have to remember, most of the original hon player base consists of dota players who left dota for two main reasons:

Disconnects
Lag

These people went to hon so that they could essentially play dota with more stability and smoother gameplay. Since dota2 won't have these kinds of problems almost all of these people are going back to dota. After months of retail and recently going f2p, hon barely manages to get 40k people on at a time. I'd say about half of the people who are frequently on are going back to dota(2). The only people who will stay in HoN are those who either never played dota or are competitive players. Both of those groups are fairly small and will also have a portion of them switch.

HoN's business model depended SOLELY on the fact that dota would never be able to fix it's major flaws. Now that this is no longer a problem they have nothing to fall back on. I believe the announcement of dota2 is forcing S2 to take bolder moves in separating itself from dota as much as possible. There is NO reason for them to copy dota anymore.

[`Wish]

lol i love how this convo jsut got that stupid of a thread LOL Dota@ is amazing the engine is better than hon graphics the quality of players everything its great only problem now is they gotta fix this server crap lol it keeps going down for beta but i mean id rather have that instea od this garbage verified unverfied legacy crap

[Gredival]

OMfg why cant u just play both, u can only play one game???...

Oh i see u got an hardisk of 1gb free only

the other 1.5 terabytes are full with porn sorry u are right what was i thinking...

The question is why you would want to. With the exception of heroes that are mutually exclusive, the gameplay is pretty much the same. It's not like when you go on a binge and get sick of one game and play another for a change of pace.

As I said, I have problems with how HoN has been run since matchmaking. I don't like how matchmaking has taken away my freedom to shape my own games ahead of time as a host, or leave a game before it starts, when I know it's going to be a terrible game.

Therefore I am fairly certain I will enjoy DotA 2 more in that respect because I trust that its matchmaking system will be superior. That belief is grounded in a strong tradition of user control in DotA due to its community run history, the lengthy involvement and influence TDA had with the game before and after the conflicts with the map development, and the emphasis the community placed on using programs like banlist to shape the game.

HoN's advantages over DotA were supposed to be all the improvement on DotA could never get because wasn't possible while designing it as a custom map in the WC3 engine.

But in my opinion HoN has regressed to a state worse than that due to the matchmaking/store business model. Even when it took DotA 5 minute to in the pre-5.5~ build days, at least I could designate what language the players were going to communicate in and use a community banlist to remove trolls from my game.

[`Wish]

i also love how all these comments are SPECULATIONS of what you think dota2 will be like lol and most are just plain wrong the games great only problem now is servers going down for maint its hard to keep them up on steam trust me but the games amazing so far even better than HoN was during beta testing phase i know i was there for hon i am thre for dota =]

[Serasboy]

The question is why you would want to. With the exception of heroes that are mutually exclusive, the gameplay is pretty much the same. It's not like when you go on a binge and get sick of one game and play another for a change of pace.

As I said, I have problems with how HoN has been run since matchmaking. I don't like how matchmaking has taken away my freedom to shape my own games ahead of time as a host, or leave a game before it starts, when I know it's going to be a terrible game.

Therefore I am fairly certain I will enjoy DotA 2 more in that respect because I trust that its matchmaking system will be superior. That belief is grounded in a strong tradition of user control in DotA due to its community run history, the lengthy involvement and influence TDA had with the game before and after the conflicts with the map development, and the emphasis the community placed on using programs like banlist to shape the game.

maybe u r right, maybe u r not, well see.

For the others ones, dont expect too much of dota2 that u will repent later.

[A_L_D_I]

bad troll 0/10
HON is already fckn dead.....milk da dead Cow S2!

[Sombras]

it's kinda stupid IMO to defend and put hands on fire for a game that hasn't come out yet... feels like HoN community is full of teenagers :S (we've seen 36474748 times on games history that new versions of a certain game are not necessarily better than the previous one. Sometimes are even worse)
I'll give my opinions only once i try DOTA 2, before it it's just ridiculous.
And objectively, HoN is a good game, there are more and more people playing it, and stay playing it, even though the terrible community... only few haters that make a lot of noise here on the forum make it appear as if HoN was the most hated and worse game ever which is, obviously, not true.
I see a lot of emotional comments around here that are really funny. HoN is a game and you just have to enjoy it, and if you dont like it, just leave it... it's as simple as that.
It's fine to create topics about complaining, but i really dont understand those users that dont even play the game anymore and are still around here commenting crap and crap... it's just pathetic.

[SteelNuts]

On a brand new engine they will make from scratch, everything will be completely customizable. Everything that makes HoN better, DotA 2 will have.
.

Well that's the thing. I mean, lets look at why HoN is better than DotA:

-Reconnection
-Stat Tracking
-Better Graphics
-Match Making
-Replay interface
-Etc etc.

The core essentials are there. If DotA 2 is just going to add those as well, how does it make it better than HoN?

For me, I don't really see what DotA 2 will add that will be better and make me want to migrate to it. The essentials are there, anything else they add will just be a random gimmick that won't alter the experience much.

I don't want to move and relearn heroes all over again, I'm happy with my familiarity of HoN and see no reason to move to another game because a lot of people think it'll be better with no valid argument.

Seriously, I haven't seen 1 compelling reason to move to DotA 2. Everyone just speculates things and clings onto nostalgia, assuming that because "back in the day DotA was great" that DotA 2 will be better than HoN.

None of you make any sense to me.

[Serasboy]

it's kinda stupid IMO to defend and put hands on fire for a game that hasn't come out yet... feels like HoN community is full of teenagers :S (we've seen 36474748 times on games history that new versions of a certain game are not necessarily better than the previous one. Sometimes are even worse)
I'll give my opinions only once i try DOTA 2, before it it's just ridiculous.
And objectively, HoN is a good game, there are more and more people playing it, and stay playing it, even though the terrible community... only few haters that make a lot of noise here on the forum make it appear as if HoN was the most hated and worse game ever which is, obviously, not true.
I see a lot of emotional comments around here that are really funny. HoN is a game and you just have to enjoy it, and if you dont like it, just leave it... it's as simple as that.
It's fine to create topics about complaining, but i really dont understand those users that dont even play the game anymore and are still around here commenting crap and crap... it's just pathetic.

OMFG 1 guy with brains pls dont leave hon u need u right here(not trolling)

[Serasboy]

Well that's the thing. I mean, lets look at why HoN is better than DotA:

-Reconnection
-Stat Tracking
-Better Graphics
-Match Making
-Replay interface
-Etc etc.

The core essentials are there. If DotA 2 is just going to add those as well, how does it make it better than HoN?

For me, I don't really see what DotA 2 will add that will be better and make me want to migrate to it. The essentials are there, anything else they add will just be a random gimmick that won't alter the experience much.

I don't want to move and relearn heroes all over again, I'm happy with my familiarity of HoN and see no reason to move to another game because a lot of people think it'll be better with no valid argument.

Seriously, I haven't seen 1 compelling reason to move to DotA 2. Everyone just speculates things and clings onto nostalgia, assuming that because "back in the day DotA was great" that DotA 2 will be better than HoN.

None of you make any sense to me.

omfg i must be dreaming another one saying to not discuss a game that even isnt out yet.

<3 u bro

[Kenpachi1337]

Maybe. Because
- You pay $30-40 again to play DotA Heroes (also in HoN)
- Same Graphics
- Same Server Location
- Same system
- Same Mechanics
- Same retards/trolls

But

DotA
- Wait 2-3 months for 2 new heroes
- IceFraud
- No more Scout, Too bad! It's me Blacksmith

HoN
- Wait 2 weeks for 1 heroes
- S2Games

id pay 30-40$ just 2 play the D0tA her0es again

[Lightdud]

Can't wait for DotA2 to fail because of one reason: People's expectations.

[Gredival]

The core essentials are there. If DotA 2 is just going to add those as well, how does it make it better than HoN?

An environment more influenced by the active community. We still haven't gotten a sticky about the stats issues from the games lost on Friday/Saturday last week when the game went F2P.

Banlists where people could get blackballed for being trolls. Ability to kick people that can't communicate with you. Ability to make it so that MMRs are within in a certain band instead of balancing two 1500's vs a 2000 and a 1000.


I don't want to move and relearn heroes all over again, I'm happy with my familiarity of HoN and see no reason to move to another game because a lot of people think it'll be better with no valid argument.

And why do you think S2 stopped porting DotA heroes. They are trying to differentiate the game. But a bunch of DotA players, myself included, are just fine losing all new heroes in exchange for the cache of heroes still not ported.

In fact, to me, the sheer amount of new heroes S2 is bringing in is part of the reason I want to move. I hate new heroes, because there is an inevitable process of rebalancing and tweaking that results before the game restabilizes. I look at the ideal more like Starcraft 1; you balance the game and then once the game is balanced, new content is unnecessary.

[MaichinhT]

well it will be better in some aspects and sure it will be not as good as HON in some points.

The Point is it doesent matter the fanboys will only see the good things in Dota2 and remember only the bad things of HON in the future. Thats the way this whole MOBA Community work.

In the CS Community there was is still a big war that some say the only E-Soprt is CS 1.6 and the newer better looking one CSS is for noobs and has a bad gameplay. Well this could also happen with Dota and Dota2. I dont say it will be like this but it can.

I hate hiping games like this in general. Look at Blizzard they get hiped by every AddOn or Game and it doesent matter how bad they are. Look at WoW the Game was best in 1st and 2nd AddOn then it goes more casual and with every AddOn there is less love inside you feel it when you play it ^^ In the end the only goal for Blizz is making money now but the Fanboys dont care no matter how bad the game is goin.


With all that said HON is a great game for the price ive paid. And i will still playing it when Dota2 is there but i will for sure have Dota2 also. I see absolutly no problem playing both. I mean its the same game in general so when i train map awarness, micro, teamplay i learn for both games the same things to be better.

i dont understand all this hate arround this topic i think the hate is only a try to feel better when things goin wrong in life or in HON for most ppl :glac:

tl;dr

also, work on your spelling and grammar

OT: DotA will trump HoN. I mean, most of us came here from DotA, and the main reason why is because of the features that DotA does not have were in HoN. But now, it's a different story because DotA 2 will have those features. Not to mention the awesome heroes DotA has

[Testingrani]

If you don't think Dota 2 exists, here:

http://i.imgur.com/I5PLn.jpg (http://dota2updates.blogspot.com/2011/08/dota-2-boot-camp-update-mith-trust.html)

source: Dota2Updates
(http://dota2updates.blogspot.com/)

[Testingrani]

Looks very similar to that other Dota mode that Icefrog implemented some time ago to me

Dota's Capture point suffered from bad implementation.
League of Legends' version looks quite interesting.

TF2 players would get a kick out of this.

[MadeMad]

[QUOTE=Gredival;14075988
In fact, to me, the sheer amount of new heroes S2 is bringing in is part of the reason I want to move. I hate new heroes, because there is an inevitable process of rebalancing and tweaking that results before the game restabilizes. I look at the ideal more like Starcraft 1; you balance the game and then once the game is balanced, new content is unnecessary.[/QUOTE]

This is what I been thinking too. Why add a new hero every week? How could it be possible to have a profession match on hon when there is so many changes. I think and hope that Valve will create the game with x heroes and dont add more until an anual expansion or something. New content every week is bad.

[Lungs]

S2 is garbage. They fell from what they once were. I used to hold S2 above all other developers. VALVe hasn't failed me yet.

[Ignatius256]

TF2 players would get a kick out of this.

What, I play TF2 and this looks terrible. I'd imagine it's about as bad as DotA's capture point mode, which is awful.

[Ignatius256]

This is what I been thinking too. Why add a new hero every week? How could it be possible to have a profession match on hon when there is so many changes. I think and hope that Valve will create the game with x heroes and dont add more until an anual expansion or something. New content every week is bad.

DotA adds new heroes when they get something that'll bring something new to the pool. And that's how it should be, if you have an idea and it's good, it should go in.

That said, nobody knows ****all about DotA 2 except those in the beta. We'll get to see it at the tournament next week, and hopefully can learn something about how good/bad/mediocre the game will be from that.

[Trolloc]

DotA adds new heroes when they get something that'll bring something new to the pool. And that's how it should be, if you have an idea and it's good, it should go in.

That said, nobody knows ****all about DotA 2 except those in the beta. We'll get to see it at the tournament next week, and hopefully can learn something about how good/bad/mediocre the game will be from that.


Pretty much. It is Valve so I have high expectation, but, we know nothing.

[gamergamer]

The full roster of heroes from Allstars is being brought over, along with items, upgrade paths, and skills. The migration to the Source engine means graphical upgrades and added voice chat.

Source: http://www.techspot.com/news/44930-valve-announces-dota-2-public-unveiling-during-1-million-tournament.html

K2 is way better then Source engine,
Source engine is like so 2004?

[facedown]

I guess you are unable to find off-topic.

[Weasel_Boy]

The only thing the source engine has going for it is physics. I want to see how DotA looks if it had source engine physics, which apparently I am getting.

But, yes, the source engine is old. It is still good.

[Vredezbyrd]

They seriously using source engine?!

[RUSty_]

The best comparison to what DotA2 will be like in terms of graphics, etc, is alien swarm.
There is a thread in oftopic about DotA2, post there

[gamergamer]

I guess you are unable to find off-topic.

Facepalm*
I am talking about the k2 engine here also, You are unable to read.

[Kild]

K2 engine fail?

K2 engine is from 2003!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_Engine

[facedown]

Facepalm*
I am talking about the k2 engine here also, You are unable to read.

I see you mentioned K2 but this thread is about DotA 2. By your logic I could talk about anything as long as I put K2 at the bottom of my post.

BTW, the source engine gets updated, modified or improved every couple months. I think Valve knows what they are doing but you might call them and tell them your concerns.

[gamergamer]

K2 engine fail?

K2 engine is from 2003!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_Engine

K2 is from Savage,
I am talking about the HoN's engine, It's new

[Shaddox]

K2 is from Savage,
I am talking about the HoN's engine, It's new
if by new you mean they locked out the first person view then yeah, I agree

[zyg]

The Source engine is originally an FPS engine. It's way more detailed than the HoN Engine which was designed with MOBA in mind. I'm wondering how they'll manage to keep the system requirements from being ridiculous with Source running a MOBA Game.

[JeremyP]

K2 engine fail?

K2 engine is from 2003!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_Engine

Thanks for that wiki link... I will now take this thread off topic.


In 2003, S2 Games released Savage: The Battle for Newerth, their first commercial game.
In 2004, three former S2 Games employees left the company to form Offset Software.
In 2006, S2 Games re-released Savage: The Battle for Newerth, as freeware.
In 2008, S2 Games released Savage 2: A Tortured Soul.
In 2009, S2 Games re-released Savage 2: A Tortured Soul as freeware.
In 2010, S2 Games released Heroes of Newerth.
In 2011, S2 Games re-released Heroes of Newerth as freeware.


Everyone complaining just doesn't know how to spot patterns. :P LMAO

[teamofone]

I don't think dota2 will disappoint me. Nice try though.

[SESnut]

they actually update the source engine with things like multicore support

what did they add to the k2 engine?

random ****ing crashes

op is an idiot s2 fanboy like mazinkaizer

[Metalelf]

I see you mentioned K2 but this thread is about DotA 2. By your logic I could talk about anything as long as I put K2 at the bottom of my post.

BTW, the source engine gets updated, modified or improved every couple months. I think Valve knows what they are doing but you might call them and tell them your concerns.

I don't like you.

[facedown]

I don't like you.

Oh god, now my day is ruined. I am going to go curl up in the fetal position for a few hours and cry.

[`Fluttershy]

they actually update the source engine with things like multicore support

what did they add to the k2 engine?

random ****ing crashes

op is an idiot s2 fanboy like mazinkaizer
oh god i lol'd.

i'm sure dota2 will be as good if not better than hon in terms of engine.

[K4D0]

vindictus uses source engine, right?

[apm120]

source engine is fantastic

have you played alien swarm?

[airplane]

tbh every single person that has used the word 'engine' their posts so far has displayed bare mininum knowledge of what an engine does

[RUSty_]

I personally never liked valve and thought they were using DotA2 as a cashcow, but now that their advertising this 1 mil tourney (which I'm certain is just marketing money) shows me that they may actually want to start getting on the esport bandwagon and maybe improve their other games in terms of its place in epsorts (like cs.)
With that being said i doubt they'll let their engine be worse than HoN or it might be embarrassing for them at gamescom.

[cybertag]

Can't wait for the "shitty reg" comments in DotA2.

[Gorescream]

tbh every single person that has used the word 'engine' their posts so far has displayed bare mininum knowledge of what an engine does
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:corr:

[VinceOffer]

Can't wait for the "shitty reg" comments in DotA2.

Oh god I forgot about the shitty reg lmao

[Xuconnie]

Have you ever played Alien Swam?

If Valve can do anything like how that looked. It will be pretty cool.

[kOikOi]

HoN's is built from Savage 2's K2 engine (using it's codebase), if I'm not mistaken.

[edit]

[Testingrani]

Source is constantly updated.

Dota 2 will do just fine.

[MrBojangl3s]

The Source engine is originally an FPS engine. It's way more detailed than the HoN Engine which was designed with MOBA in mind. I'm wondering how they'll manage to keep the system requirements from being ridiculous with Source running a MOBA Game.

If this game (http://www.empiresmod.com/drupal/node/21) can work with 32v32 in an RTS FOV, anything is possible.

[luckyclam]

Thanks for that wiki link... I will now take this thread off topic.


In 2003, S2 Games released Savage: The Battle for Newerth, their first commercial game.
In 2004, three former S2 Games employees left the company to form Offset Software.
In 2006, S2 Games re-released Savage: The Battle for Newerth, as freeware.
In 2008, S2 Games released Savage 2: A Tortured Soul.
In 2009, S2 Games re-released Savage 2: A Tortured Soul as freeware.
In 2010, S2 Games released Heroes of Newerth.
In 2011, S2 Games re-released Heroes of Newerth as freeware.


Everyone complaining just doesn't know how to spot patterns. :P LMAO

oh wow :o

[Bainshie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NSnR3-rYI

ANd that was a free game they didn't put that much effort into, and it still runs better then HoN.

[Akeerah]

The full roster of heroes from Allstars is being brought over, along with items, upgrade paths, and skills. The migration to the Source engine means graphical upgrades and added voice chat.

Source: http://www.techspot.com/news/44930-valve-announces-dota-2-public-unveiling-during-1-million-tournament.html

K2 is way better then Source engine,
Source engine is like so 2004?

i loled :)

[Yunak]

Unreal engine is from '98.

[Aizen`]

Vindictus runs on Modified Source Engine.

DotA 2 will probably do the same.. Run on an modified Source Engine.

[Slut]

DotA2 will look worse than HoN if you like HoN's dark style of graphics :)

[gamergamer]

http://webpic.sgamer.com/Albums/0/426/2FE64.jpg

first one is to eat 300 trees,
IDK others

[Slut]

The only thing that bothers me with HoN is that either
a): S2 thinks it's good for the game to release 2 heroes every week.
b): They only think about money.
c): They think it's good for the game and they only think about money.

Honestly it's just ruining a good game making convoy belt heroes; some S2 heroes are fun, and many really suck.
Please don't make anymore jungle heroes, it's not that fun playing alone in the jungle, is it?

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And Riot and Valve don't think about money right ? Looks to me like Riot made way more money than S2 and they still think about the money just as much as S2, if not more.

[decayed`cell]

When I read topic title I went to the author,when I read gamergamer I was thinking:
"Oh my god this retard is trying to troll again"
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8fBvX7PTdoQ/THTsurxeStI/AAAAAAAAAbM/Fbwf6S1bCa0/s1600/double-facepalm.jpg

[Mondok94]

I really hope it doesn't have achievements. The last thing we need is retards focusing on achievement hunting than actually trying to win.

Unless the achievements are all "Get 100 wins" "get 200 wins" bla ba.

[MeneerKrabs]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd377/Rolin_1/swingagaingif.gif

[izRlyBad]

DotA2 will look worse than HoN if you like HoN's dark style of graphics :)

i lol'd, Hon is a fking candyland

[Suda]

This thread is for any thing related to dota2. Please keep all hands and feet inside the thread at all times and resist the urge to throw your fellow passengers out of the tram.

Lol this mod got style.

[Grotesco]

International championship + Dota 2 first public apearance.

1 million dolars prize.

I can`t wait!

[RoterBaron]

http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/en/gamescom/home/index.php learn 2 read... 18th is the opening for everyone

[Zahnfleisch]

I'll be there but I fear Skyrim is much more interesting than Dota2.

[Steffen]

I really hope it doesn't have achievements. The last thing we need is retards focusing on achievement hunting than actually trying to win.

Unless the achievements are all "Get 100 wins" "get 200 wins" bla ba.

The Big Silence - Successfully silence 85 different players with the use of Silencer's ultimate.

Not-so-stone-thrower - Throw 30 allies upon enemy heroes with Tiny's Toss.

ALL MY HATE, VALVE

Source (http://store.steampowered.com/app/240/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1)

[WetMistress]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

[Loli]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

****ing.
Perfect.

[ShammySham]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

Lol'd.

__________
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_485YA3c9vf0/TQvD6u0ysEI/AAAAAAAADtM/t8f40T8qYbs/s1600/panty-and-stocking-with-garterbelt-12.jpg

[Vashie]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

Best thing on reddit today.

[Lethe]

god bless u wetmistress

[ZabatieL]

Found a dotard in gosugamers:

[/U];14091494]That points makes dota better then each clone.. Thats why i love it, the buggy things making a big part of this game, manabars for example are seen as cheat in dota. Most things u pointed out i dont want, if they get into dota 2 i highly doubt i will switch from dota. Sure i would test it anyways but i dont think i would stay in it.
Lol he don't want ''mana bar'' and ''timer in game'' for DOTA2.

[PandaSucks]

http://www.dota2-blog.com/virus-france-replaces-lgd-china-on-the-international.htm
+ more dotaaaaa2 stuff cuz you all want it.
http://www.dota2-blog.com/leaked-dota-2-screenshots-from-mith-trust-thailand.htm

Soooo.. Another european team.. Jelly amerifags are jelly.

[ZabatieL]

Yeah, it a shame, the new LGD will give a good fight for in this tournament.

This virus doesn't even compare with LGD, but even then the tournament continues with four strong chinese teams CCM(iG),Tyloo,EHOME and nirvana.cn.

I'm hoping for a underdog win the first place (MyM or Navi).

[HurricaneLi]

rofl EHOME is history

[ZabatieL]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif
EPIC!!

[Hax]

Yeah, it a shame, the new LGD will give a good fight for in this tournament.

This virus doesn't even compare with LGD, but even then the tournament continues with four strong chinese teams CCM(iG),Tyloo,EHOME and nirvana.cn.

I'm hoping for a underdog win the first place (MyM or Navi).

Are you seriously calling mym an underdog?

[sharpcat]

MYM have been very dominant recently.

[Dyzfunkshun]

I'm hoping for a underdog win the first place (MyM or Navi).
So...the two finalists from the most recent Farm 4 Fame tournament are deemed underdogs? While it's true a couple of Chinese teams are generally considered the favourites, MYM and Na'vi are two of the top EU contenders, and I would not be at all surprised if either one took the first place spot out.

[PizdecEbashy]

**** yeah, now M5 won't take last spot

G
G
G
G

[BiGFaTE]

pretty disappointing if none of the chinese teams can go

[PandaSucks]

pretty disappointing if none of the chinese teams can go

Its only LGD that isnt able to come? ;o

gogo na`vi

[ItsBehindYou]

Go Na`vi

[ZabatieL]

Kebap will play for GG net, nice.
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/features/2770
The only ex-hon player in this tournament.

[tumtum100]

http://i.imgur.com/Yg5za.gif

Haha facking nice!

[Namine`]

So...the two finalists from the most recent Farm 4 Fame tournament are deemed underdogs? While it's true a couple of Chinese teams are generally considered the favourites, MYM and Na'vi are two of the top EU contenders, and I would not be at all surprised if either one took the first place spot out.

Winning F4F doesn't really change the fact that they are underdogs in this tournament. MYM won F4F dominantly a few years ago before going to SMM and failing to make the group stages, its not like the top asian teams enter the F4F league.

[Hat_Truck]

I threw it on the ground!

[Skybound]

Winning F4F doesn't really change the fact that they are underdogs in this tournament. MYM won F4F dominantly a few years ago before going to SMM and failing to make the group stages, its not like the top asian teams enter the F4F league.

Comparing the mym from a few years ago to todays mym is ridiculous. They've gotten extremely strong players like Demon and Playmate, and solo lanes have always been mym's bane. Also, Maelk's strategic mind has clearly developed, and they've built themselves a prime position in todays EU scene. They're NOT an underdog for this tournament, rofl. They've been deemed top contesters ever since the tournament was announced, falling short only to the 2-3 best Chinese teams, and perhaps Na'vi. That's not what's considered an underdog.

Still guessing Na'vi has a good shot at winning this though, with their bold playstyle and perfect execution they definitely deserve it.

[ZabatieL]

Another :
http://2ch.so/vg/src/1312897273513.gif

[the_champ]

IMO, anyone considering any european dota team as "not a underdog" is favoritism. Trust me when I say, chinese dota is at another level. Deep down, some of you guys probably know this.

[MA121]

Comparing the mym from a few years ago to todays mym is ridiculous. They've gotten extremely strong players like Demon and Playmate, and solo lanes have always been mym's bane. Also, Maelk's strategic mind has clearly developed, and they've built themselves a prime position in todays EU scene. They're NOT an underdog for this tournament, rofl. They've been deemed top contesters ever since the tournament was announced, falling short only to the 2-3 best Chinese teams, and perhaps Na'vi. That's not what's considered an underdog.

Still guessing Na'vi has a good shot at winning this though, with their bold playstyle and perfect execution they definitely deserve it.
That's like trying to declare a European StarCraft player as one of the best because he dominates in the European scene (LOL).

[oliquido]

i dont follow dota much but it seems like euro teams always get stomped when they play chinese teams

[Nani`]

iG (ex-CCM) just lost 2 players, we'll have to see if they're even gonna be able to and if they do, if they'll be able to compete (new roster and all).

That pretty much leaves TyLoo and OK.Nirvana.cn, who also lost one player each to the "new" LGD, lead by zsmj.

Looks brighter and brighter every day for MYM and Na'Vi, with the chinese continueing to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Hax]

i dont follow dota much but it seems like euro teams always get stomped when they play chinese teams

The Chinese teams almost never play the euro teams. The last time MyM played one of the chinese teams that are participating in the tournament, MyM won.

[Ar7style]

Go Natus Vincere

Best drafter ever!

[Kzod]

Its only LGD that isnt able to come? ;o
They will, under Invictus Gaming, which now has 9 players (CCM and LGD without ZSMJ) don't know if there have been any roster changes since they were bought by iG though
ZSMJ's new LGD didn't get invited and instead they invited some frenchies with no chance to win.

[tumtum100]

Another :
http://2ch.so/vg/src/1312897273513.gif

Haha cool

[`Fluttershy]

These euro teams are just filler. They're trash and the chinese will **** on them.

[Grim]

at least Dota 2 is gonna run well on 1920x1080 as it seems, unlike other games, supports 1920x1080 but taller/wider than the original >.>

[Grim]

Another :
http://2ch.so/vg/src/1312897273513.gif

lol n1

[Naib]

at least Dota 2 is gonna run well on 1920x1080 as it seems, unlike other games, supports 1920x1080 but taller/wider than the original >.>

HoN runs nicely on my 1920x1080, get a better OS and better gpu+drivers

[Nani`]

They will, under Invictus Gaming, which now has 9 players (CCM and LGD without ZSMJ) don't know if there have been any roster changes since they were bought by iG though
ZSMJ's new LGD didn't get invited and instead they invited some frenchies with no chance to win.
iG lost 2 members : http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16462-xiao8-and-ddc-moves-to-lgd

LGD officially replaced by the french team Virus: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16456-virus-replace-lgd-at-the-international

[man_guy]

http://www.dota2-blog.com/leaked-dota-2-screenshots-from-mith-trust-thailand.htmI like that their manager is barricading their front door with a computer desk. :)

[Grim]

HoN runs nicely on my 1920x1080, get a better OS and better gpu+drivers

it supports 1920x1080 and runs smoothly with it, but the height and width are different from SD screens, width > height by a lot, which cause a really stupid view.

my pc is more than enough to run this.. game.

[song_tinh]

http://mithesports.com/wp-content/gallery/mith-trust-boot-camp-for-dota-2/mith-bootcamp-0018.jpg

From MITH Bootcamp. Do you think it looks like Legion base?

[Chime]

Hello.

We all know this one: "DotA 2 will fix it", or "DotA 2 will kill HoN". Honestly, i am not a fan of S2 anymore after the new changes to sig, EA, etc. But i want to talk about DotA 2.

What is DotA 2? In many eyes it is reflected as a killer. A killer that is going to kill HoN, DotA and LoL. Every known Moba. Why is it going to kill them? Well, i honestly think nobody knows.

Is DotA going to be that "great" game? Nobody has seen any content of that game yet, and it is even unknown when to come out. (correct me if i am wrong.)

So to sum it all up:

DotA 2 will kill every other Moba game, but noone knows what it is.

Is something wrong here? I guess yes. No game can kill another game without any content shown yet so close to their release.

[Skyve]

WAR is coming!

That's what I always have to think of when people say how great DotA2 is...

Edit: Isn't it Dota/DOTA2, because Valve didn't get the rights to use "Defense of the Ancients", and can't use "DotA"? Just curious.

[scott3h]

Hmm you may be on to something.

[Necrosado]

Dota2 is like a scout that farmed jungle for 45 minutes and went 11/0/1

HoN and LoL are like an Ophelia with striders and a mana battery, a wolf leashed and 0/11/0

Can you see the winner?

[Flow3rs]

Why did I have to read an entire paragraph when you could have just said, "No one knows any info about Dota 2 to conclude that it will beat everyone". Honestly thats something that everyone already knows. The reason everyone (even though knowingly having no evidence to base their conclusion off of) believes Dota 2 will kill HoN and LoL is because Ice Frog is the lead developer with Valve as his ATM. Not to mention the rest of the Valve team has created one of the best games for communities such as this. GG

[orca_]

WINTER IS COMING!

(If you know where I quoted that be happy to have seen an awesome series )))

[xMKNx]

rly?

dota 2 will will be better because they have valve backing it.(money)

Running off a new engine(modded source engine), with newer updated graphics /concept ideas.

[xMKNx]

WINTER IS COMING!

(If you know where I quoted that be happy to have seen an awesome series )))

double post bcuz

Game of Thrones is awesome!

[Chime]

Hmm you may be on to something.

Many have noticed this. But i just want to bring this to the light. People are simply stupid if they think DotA 2 will kill other games. Just plain stupid. Any great game that lives up to great expections and does not show any content is clearly a bluff. Iw will never survive unless people are stupid enough to buy it.

[TekGR]

dota 2 is like lion
hon is like cat
lol is like worm..

[IPeonPeons]

WINTER IS COMING!

(If you know where I quoted that be happy to have seen an awesome series )))
Don't go too close to the wall. :glac:

But on topic, DotA 2 will have the same griefers/ragers/leavers just as any other game of this genre. Most likely it will also use the same marketing strategies (F2P with microtransactions) as that's what seems to work for this.

It's just a hope, let it be. :p

[Necrosado]

rly?

dota 2 will will be better because they have valve backing it.(money)

Running off a new engine(modded source engine), with newer updated graphics /concept ideas.

And I'm pretty sure if they start P2P, they will remain P2P or F2P they will remain F2P, not changing on the middle of the way and upsetting 10 mil users.

[KurtKatze]

Well, dota 2 will not kill lol because it is different enough form dota 2 with summoner spells, uniq energy concepts and so on.
But i alos think that, if dota 2 is well executed it will kill HoN. The Hon community is too small the only thing hon has going for it atm is it's competitive scene and valve put up a 1 Million $ price for the dota 2 tournament... if they get a running competitive scene with high price pools, there is no reason at all for any competitive player to stay at hon. And this will most likely be the end.

On another note: EU servers dont record MM-stats atm very annoying! And i couldnt post this in the general section so yeah... gj there -.-'

[Chime]

rly?

dota 2 will will be better because they have valve backing it.(money)

Running off a new engine(modded source engine), with newer updated graphics /concept ideas.

People who can play Guild Wars with better graphics and everything like to play runescape instead. See the difference?

[W1nch3st35]

Dota 2 is copy paste dota with a new engine that is what we know.

If HoN will die is completely up to S2 imo, if they keep ****ing up they might lose more people then they need to, cause most of HoN players came from dota and loved HoN for what it is a faster pace dota and dota 2 wont change that more than the changes already made to dota and i dont think most people playing HoN currently would like that.

But if S2 doesent get more stable the damage might be to suvere for any recovery to be made after dota 2 launch.

[Nugralsa1]

Dota is still the most loved Moba game of this genre...DOTA 2,probably,will be a perfect copy of DOTA with better graphic so...99% of the player of DotA will go to DOTA 2 (the competitive scene already done it seems) and 50% of Hon and LoL player probably change too so...y,DOTA 2 will kill all XD

[ZabatieL]

http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110806/M3VKK5S4.jpg



FAKE, haha, I trololol you guys, this picture is from starcraft II.
No pictures until 17th august.

[Flawless]

dota 2 is like lion
hon is like cat
lol is like worm..
dota2 is like tapeworm medicine
hon is like a cat
lol is like a bunch of tapeworms infesting a cat untreated.

[Salac]

The problem is that every MOBA has players that hate the other moba's players, LoL players will say that HoN suck and HoN players will say that LoL suck, meanwhile dota forums filled with rage for HoN etc.

Valve did a great marketing job by hiring icefrog, not for how great a designer he is or whatever but for what his name would represent to many of this genre's players, because people fond memories of how nice it was playing dota and how great of a game it is/was and that will create expectations for this game, while also creating sense of continuity playing the "same" game you already played and loved, softening the hatred for that other title that is so common on this genre.

Even inflaction rates follow expectations, if you manage to create expectations (and they did, people expect it to kill every other title) that your game will be huge it will certainly attract a huge playerbase.

td;lr: DOTA2 content doesn't matter because Valve knows how to do marketing.

[Pixologic]

DOTA 2 pics!!!! (http://www.dota2-blog.com/leaked-dota-2-screenshots-from-mith-trust-thailand.htm)

[IPeonPeons]

dota2 is like tapeworm medicine
hon is like a cat
lol is like a bunch of tapeworms infesting a cat untreated.
So you're saying that...
LoL players are inside of us...?
:empa:?

[orca_]

CHECK THIS!!!! (http://www.dota2-blog.com/leaked-dota-2-screenshots-from-mith-trust-thailand.htm)

Awesome graphics.
So blurry!

[orca_]

Don't go too close to the wall. :glac:

NP. John got this )

[Mulberry]

HoN won't die. People who say that only think that so that they can sleep at night.

Even if it is good I can play both HoN and DOTA2

[AlexElder]

its simple why dota 2 will be best...its because they change NOTHING. they just keep dota as it is and improve it by reconnection, voice-chat, better engine etc.

but even if its best ill keep playing HON for some variety, coz u get mad if u keep playing the same game all the time

[xollen]

http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110806/M3VKK5S4.jpg


Looks little like HoN if this real i love it!

[`fAntom]

Snipers ultimate sound will be the AWP sound from counterstrike

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16442-scythe-hyhy-interviewed-by-gosugamers

dota 2 ftw

[Meruem]

Hello.

We all know this one: "DotA 2 will fix it", or "DotA 2 will kill HoN". Honestly, i am not a fan of S2 anymore after the new changes to sig, EA, etc. But i want to talk about DotA 2.

What is DotA 2? In many eyes it is reflected as a killer. A killer that is going to kill HoN, DotA and LoL. Every known Moba. Why is it going to kill them? Well, i honestly think nobody knows.

Is DotA going to be that "great" game? Nobody has seen any content of that game yet, and it is even unknown when to come out. (correct me if i am wrong.)

So to sum it all up:

DotA 2 will kill every other Moba game, but noone knows what it is.

Is something wrong here? I guess yes. No game can kill another game without any content shown yet so close to their release.


? what do u mean material? its dota not limited to the wc3 engine
thats more than enough reason

dota is a lot more balanced than hon ever was or will be - i dont care much about how the game will look - icefrog pretty much knows what hes doing i believe and that game will indeed rape

[Loli]

Because Valve is a professional company with one of the best QA teams around that consistently makes good games when not rushed (ex: L4D2 :[ ).

They have a great engine, great developers, and just overall are a great company.

You compare this to fledgling companies like S2 and Riot and you'll see why everyone is looking forward to a DotA by Valve. Saying its going to suck or that it won't be good is a pretty idiotic statement. They'd have to **** up really hard to mess thing up, seeing as they're just improving the hell out of an already created and grounded game.

[SoulCrusher]

It's still a Starcraft2 Screenshot shopped onto the screen.

[JackSparrow`]

thats sc2.

[Talesavo]

You're living in some kind of dreamland if you think DotA 2 beta will not be the end of HoN. The majority of HoN's playerbase(my 8 friends and I included) came to HoN simply due to the archaic engine dota was restricted to. I'm so confident HoN will not be able to maintain more than 30 000 players after DotA 2's release, that I'll put $100 up for anyone who disagrees.

[MisterNasty]

Can't wait, s2 will fail.

[YuumeiRei]

Ahh. The IceFrog fanboys vs the S2 fanboys. How fun!

My opinion: Dota 2 is so hyped, that when it comes out, people are going to be disappointed as hell.

That.

Ppl tend to expect too much from some game titles.
Games like Starcraft II suffered from this a little, other games like Final Fantasy XIII suffered from this a hell lot... but it doesn't make these games bad.
I truly believe that DotA 2 is being overrated at the moment, and this 1kk prize tournament just made things "worse". Im sure it'll be a decent game, to say the least. Howhever, I don't think it'll rule over HoN nor LoL (even though I think LoL is quite inferior to both HoN and DotA 1).
Wait and see... that's all we are supposed to do. You can't get frustrated if you don't hold expectations.

[Anchovies]

Interesting interview from one of the players training for the 1kk invite tourney.


How have preparations for The International been like?
"Basically just playing and adapting to the game, but it has been difficult as the game is still in beta and naturally unstable, with occasional crashes. Another problem for few of us is the system requirements for DotA 2, as we have teammates running on 1.0 ghz processors or something. We can't play at all till they get an upgrade."

Do you have any strategies/tactics specially prepared for this event? How about studying (the replays) or training to counter any particular team(s)?
"I don't think I'm allowed to go into details, so I'll leave it at that. No, we haven't prepared strategies yet. I'm still mistaking Shadowfiend for Doombringer, etc. Like i said, teamplay and strategies will come later."

So it's currently a buggy beta game with new graphics that seasoned dota players need time to adjust to. Doesn't sound too different from HoN :P Hope they iron out all the bugs before the tourney kicks off. Would be rather embarrasing to have the 1kk prize decided because of a crash. Having such a big tournament on a beta is risky, but it's probably worth the hype.

http://www.gosugamers.net/general/news/16442-scythe-hyhy-interviewed-ahead-of-gamescom

[ZabatieL]

How have preparations for The International been like?

''Basically just playing and adapting to the game, but it has been difficult as the game is still in beta and naturally unstable, with occasional crashes. Another problem for few of us is the system requirements for DotA 2, as we have teammates running on 1.0 ghz processors or something. We can't play at all till they get an upgrade."Cool,we can expect two things of this:

1- Great graphics like HoN.

2- No, pinoy kids with their ''pentium 4'' playing DOTA 2.

[Grim]

FACT: your opinion means **** to the people who enjoy Counter-Strike:Source / HL and can't wait for Dota 2.

[Grim]

graphics waaaay better than HoN imo, just from looking at that screenshot
I'm getting a new pc the day i get my damn paycheck

[Faceman]

...who will most likely conquer the DotA 2 competitive scene? HoN or DotA players, who are more skilled?

[Sporkington]

there is already a 1.7 million dollar tournament with 16 INVITE only teams. All of witch are ONLY from Dota.

[KleinAberOho]

DotA players
As much as I'd like it to be otherwise, all the teams that switched to HoN's competetive scene were mediocre if not irrelevant in DotA's.

[Homeboy`]

DotA players, easily

[Old_Gregg_]

Assuming the heroes are the same as in DotA. I dont see how the HoN players woudl stand a chance. They wouldnt know half the heroes, where as the DotA players have mastered them

[Complaint]

...who will most likely conquer the DotA 2 competitive scene? HoN or DotA players, who are more skilled?

HoN players ARE DotA players.

[MrNailbrain]

Witch Slayer will own in DotA, after he is removed from HoN...

To answer your question: DotA2 players will conquer DotA2

[Zedzo]

Learning new heroes isnt that big of a deal for the top teams, so I doubt that will make any difference except for like the first 2 weeks.

[Bamsemums]

Have a feeling some teams still will stay at Dota, but it all depends on the prize pools on the next turneys.

And HoN players/teams will be dominated against Dota players/teams. MSI got nothing against MYM and OK.Nirvana :P.

Edit: So will HoN teams move over to DOTA 2, or will they stay at HoN where they at least got a chance? What do you think?

[polynom]

HoN teams didn't even have the chance to be in the tournament.

[pMd_]

dota pros got beta keys, hon pros didn't. dota pros get a headstart so it's gonna be tough for the hon pros to keep up. we might see some make it into strong teams within half a year i guess.

[Malaevalos]

well when dota 2 is out hon players will be lol players not dota

[Serasboy]

Witch Slayer will own in DotA, after he is removed from HoN...

omfg nome trolled u like a king ahah

[ZabatieL]

DOTA2 will not have all DOTA1 available for gamescon.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16461-mi-julz-asus-interviewed-by-gosugamers

[Dacko]

DotA players for sure.

[Dacko]

DOTA2 will not have all DOTA1 available for gamescon.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16461-mi-julz-asus-interviewed-by-gosugamers

lol @ picture

[Ryuukun]

http://www.worldmapfinder.com/Images/FlagImages/China.gif

[GLun]

HoN Players.. DotA original map is slow and obsolete now.

[MrNailbrain]

omfg nome trolled u like a king ahah
No, you just didn't get the joke, my bad :(

[Meruem]

hon players wont stand a chance against dota players

[MojoSpirit]

there is already a 1.7 million dollar tournament with 16 INVITE only teams. All of witch are ONLY from Dota.

I see the prize go up on a daily basis. It will hit 1 billion soon enough. Dota2 fanboys will sell off a limb. Whateva it takes. First 1 million then some dude said 1.3, 1.5 now 1.7.

[The_VOLGA]

DOTA players go by the golden rule that Gameplay>Graphic.

They are true nerds and pros. HON pros are nothing compared to DOTA players. They like chicken feed in other words.

DOTA players are the true MOBA pros. Infact they so good that they don't even care to switch over to HON.

[MichaelBurge]

DOTA players are the true MOBA pros. Infact they so good that they don't even care to switch over to HON.

League of Legends players are so good they don't even care to switch over to HoN. :thun:

[ZabatieL]

Why HON fail to sucess DOTA, despite being better gameplay than DOTA1 or LOL :

1- S2 don't have icefrog blessing, this is very important, if icefrog put an advertisement in the loading of the DOTA WC3 map, with only that, will be the best publicity ever made.Every DOTA player will only follow icefrog,this is the true.

2- S2 games is a little unknown company compare to valve,bliizard and even riot games. Riot invested river of money invested in advertising, and I've never seen an advertisement of HoN.

DOTA2 will have the two keys items:

VALVE one of the best known, big and rich gaming PC company.
Only the name of VALVE will attract thousands of players.
VALVE can spend much money on advertising (only steam is huge advertising is DOTA2).

ICEFROG: the true radical DOTARDS of DOTA, will only follow ICEFROG, many DOTA players refuse even try HoN because of this.

[AlexElder]

guys guys guys...just got the latest news from valve!!!! i heard in dota 2 there are recorded stats!

[Eishun]

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news/dota-2-price-leaked-and-more-news-regarding-valve-upcoming-title/

idk if this true, but it's better be

[ShammySham]

Must be the 0.20 kg packaging. HEUHEUHEHEU

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_485YA3c9vf0/TQvD6u0ysEI/AAAAAAAADtM/t8f40T8qYbs/s1600/panty-and-stocking-with-garterbelt-12.jpg

[C00LBeans]

I don't know anyone who would pay more than 50 bucks if even 50 bucks for a game that will end up being exactly like HoN.

[XxSasorixX]

This is what I would have expected. A Steam Discount would be nice though!

[Corpsy]

I don't know anyone who would pay more than 50 bucks if even 50 bucks for a game that will end up being exactly like HoN.

<- Now you know one.

[Grim]

50-60 is what I was hoping for.

[Grim]

I don't know anyone who would pay more than 50 bucks if even 50 bucks for a game that will end up being exactly like HoN.


..... whaaaaaaat?

[Tyrando]

the real question is, what will the micro transactions supply, power or cosmetics :O

[Tarishimo]

if its 50-60 **** that. So overpriced

[irishfro69]

rahter pay 50 -60 bucks than play this trash/dumpster/POS game that HoN turned into with Monkey king and now f2p and with OP heros being allowed to be boughten because rest of us legacy players that alrdy paid 30 bucks dont feel like paying more $$.....

and if that was NOT ENOUGH more DDoS attacks and stats are still not recording for a THIRD TIME.

Dota 2 will most certainly not be like this because Valve is a way better company than S2 and can afford half decent servers.

[Marand]

S2 is ding dong food..fu*** them,,.they made it f2p? ff lol...

[Grim]

the real question is, what will the micro transactions supply, power or cosmetics :O

no in-game store was confirmed, but the exact opposite, it was rumored from a reliable source that there will be no micro transactions.

[Grim]

I see the prize go up on a daily basis. It will hit 1 billion soon enough. Dota2 fanboys will sell off a limb. Whateva it takes. First 1 million then some dude said 1.3, 1.5 now 1.7.

get your head straight

$1million for the winning team
$600.000 split to the second, third etc..

[iFEED]

Thailand's DotA-team, MiTH-Trust, attending the DotA 2 championship tournament for 1 million USD accidentally released a couple of screenshots of the team practising where you can clearly see DotA 2 running on one of the guy's display. The non-blurredimages were almost instantly gone from the team's site: Valve appears to be rather strict when it comes to images of unreleased games.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2623/ownedcoredota2leak550x3.jpg


Original image of MiTH-Trust players practicing that was taken down very quickly.
Can't see it? Check the next zoomed image!

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2623/ownedcoredota2leak550x3.jpg

Here we can see the DotA 2 UI (interface) and some other interesting things such as the cool shadow rendering as it looks like.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2623/ownedcoredota2leak550x3.jpg

This image was taken down also very quickly, it is the official DotA 2 logo.

Thx to: www.ownedcore.com (http://www.ownedcore.com)

[`lorko]

This logo looks great.w8ing another 2 weeks tho =(

[sakujo]

5 days, 5 hours until dota 2 premiere ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[tumtum100]

New interview:
A brief chat with Valve's Erik Johnson on the in-development Defense of the Ancients sequel.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/dota-2010/1187567p1.html

[pablofsi]

Discuss.

[magicaltux]

well... sure, if by that you mean, killing dota and turning it into a casual game, sure it'll win.

[ZabatieL]

Mineski Infinity:

Facing certainly more well-known opponents and more experienced players from all over the world, do you think your team has a chance of winning? Do you have any specific strategy in mind? How about studying (the replays) or training to counter any particular team(s)?

Dota 2, has a very different gameplay as compared to DotA. There are some heroes that are very strong, due to the fact that the traditional counters to them have not been released yet. We are still observing and experimenting with some imba heroes. As for the other teams that we have played with, I can say they are all pretty strong and talented as individuals.


Erik Johnson: DOTA 2 is a competitive game that borrows elements from action games, role-playing games, and real-time strategy games. The gameplay is very fast-paced, but rewards players for anticipating their teammates' and opponent's decisions, rather than rewarding twitch reflexes. Over the course of each match, which generally lasts less than an hour, you get a full RPG experience where your character starts with very little resources and skills -- but over time, becomes orders of magnitude more powerful. And while it has the camera position of a traditional RTS, you only (generally) control a single unit and don't have any base construction tasks to worry about.

Uhn nice, fast gameplay like HoN.

Source: http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/dota-2010/1187567p1.html

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2

[xmangosx]

The game will make a great screensaver!

[somonels]

I need to find some eggs to turn then into pancakes.

[Excyis]

Well..that's just like your opinion man.

[EnconHUN]

So. You say DotA 2 will come in that day, but what if not dota 2 will be?:scou:
I'm just telling how they said strategy game not exactly dota 2
It would be the best trolling in the game history

[Feroci0us]

What are you saying?

I dont understand

[HatTrick]

http://dota2.com/public/images/header.jpg

Just gonna leave this here...

[ZabatieL]

Uhn,that guy look like VENON from spider-man, awesome art concepts.
Source or fake?

[HatTrick]

http://portal.aecorp.in/2011/08/new-dota-2-image-leaked-out/

[OgerAffe]

These models look pretty boring/bad imo.

[ShutUpMeg]

Step 1. Open Steam
Step 2. Open the store
Step 3. Type in "Dota 2" in the search
Step 4. Click on the game when it pops up in the list
Step 5. Click "Add To Wishlist" on the right
Step 6. Profit¿¿¿



This is legit, I can't reveal my sources tho, believe it or don't, not my concern.


*Tip* make sure your steam email is current.

[Landrick]

thanks

[Nymity]

TY!! doing it nao.

[haDro]

Doesn't belong in the GD, refrain from posting meaningless threads, reported.

[QtheMuse]

Shut up meg

[Sir_Demos]

When's the beta starting?

[THE_SPOOKY]

Doesn't belong in the GD, refrain from posting meaningless threads, reported.

this is the kind of fanboy that will be left high and dry when no one plays this game any more

[Landrick]

Doesn't belong in the GD, refrain from posting meaningless threads, reported.
in light of the recent patch i dont see this thread as meaningless

[ltranCel]

Doesn't belong in the GD, refrain from posting meaningless threads, reported.

Pretty sure he isn' t trolling. Reporting for reporting unnecessarily.

[TehPenGu]

Ty meg.

[ShutUpMeg]

When's the beta starting?

We don't know for sure.

[Sepherie1]

IMO he's is trolling. If not, this thread should be reported.

[BlazingNoob]

fuk u bic boooi!

[GhsCrysis]

It's legit, though why he'd tell people is beyond me because the more people the sign up the less his chances are of getting in.

[ShutUpMeg]

It's legit, though why he'd tell people is beyond me because the more people the sign up the less his chances are of getting in.


Im nice

[sakujo]

These models look pretty boring/bad imo.

i disagree. i think they all look awesome, especially nevermore and crixalis.

[Fomalhaut]

HoN had a 1 year open beta. Hope Dota2 does as well.

[McLovin]

http://i.imgur.com/GvT4I.png

[iLikeRain]

These models look pretty boring/bad imo.

You're taking the piss? Compared to the HoN versions, these are godly.

[VestasRage]

http://i.imgur.com/Kgy8F.jpg

from left --> right:
The one with bow is Drow Ranger? =D
Morph
Tiny
Juggernault
Pugde (finaly a real butcher!! ;D)
the black dude is Nevermore i think
And last is Sandking :D

[Corpsy]

Let's see.

hon dev>fat guy

d2 magmus> hon magmus

d2 soulstealer > hon soulstealer

d2 pebbles > hon pebbles

water guy has no equal.

can't tell which the archer is.

if it's sb then it's better than hon's sb.

To sum it up, everyone except devourer is worse in hon, now only the graphics and animations and sounds are left to see.

[Cuddles]

Their models remind me of Borderlands.

Especially Juggernaut.

[Rogash`]

lol editing a failure post

[SolarFlare22]

You missed one.

Top left there's somebody flying, you can see their legs. Not sure who it is, but maybe Lina?

[Huere_Gigu]

i think the one on the right is venomancer