The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread

[Jopher]

more 100% dota heroes
less S2 heroes
less of S2's semi dota ports

[OneFish]

-S2 starts to listen and actually implement changes as the playing community sees fit

-Stability of servers and matchmaking

-Development of core gameplay as opposed to making fancy shmancy new reskins

-DoTA2 never comes out (...oh wait...)

[Ashanomara]

if hon got a better community. (HAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHHAHAHAHAHHQHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH A):blac:

[IPwnedAIDS]

Godly single player/challenge mode (mass fun)/ map editor

[Flawless]

No maphackers. AKA every steam game is riddled with hackers, VAC secured or not. Ill probably try DotA2 depending on the business model but HoN will probably end up reigning supreme. Mainly because if you think valve is going to update DotA2 every 2 weeks you're a ****ing idiot.


I think most people fail to realize what a great service S2 provides with HoN even with some instability in the past few weeks. Name one game that even for $60 gets updated as much as HoN? ( You could say LoL but all they really do is new heroes / skins, never add new features.)

[Raptomex]

S2 has given up on this game. Nothing prevent me from leaving to dota 2. Sadly enough.

[ohhhhbeeee]

probably wouldn't buy it unless i could test it like in the open beta.

if it's better than hon than i'll probably buy it, if not i'll probably hold off and see what most of the community switches to.

[Whip]

I won't go to DOTA2 simply cuz it's DOTA2 and not DotA2.

[flint88]

In my case thes question would be:
How good DOTA2 has to be to keep me from staying?

It has to be better. Obviously I can't tell you in what points. If they are on a same level I will stay here. In other words. I am not going to change, just because it is "DOTA".

[angrychair]

If DotA 2 has hats I won't buy it. **** that.

Other than that, depends on pricing and how many of my friends pick it up.

[KingBane]

custom maps

[HIGHFLY]

Waiting for DotA2 :devo:

[I7aggoHok]

i don't care about dota2. after 5.xx its a trash. you think s2 heroes op? NO. Now dota have 25% balanced heroes, 25 % op heroes and 50% trash heroes

[ViXoZuDo]

give me back my old secret shop and i'll stay with HoN...

[Gizmo`Duck]

i don't care about dota2. after 5.xx its a trash. you think s2 heroes op? NO. Now dota have 25% balanced heroes, 25 % op heroes and 50% trash heroes


Hope u know , u r talking about DotA 1 not 2 dump.
Well nothing will be keep ma from switching to DotA2!
S2 just destroyng their game on each weak more and more ... hf with more gold Alt´s.

[_JiMz_]

LAN!!

[Yinn]

I will laugh so hard at everyone that instantly leaves to DOTA2 then crying there and coming back...

Always the same.. one game is like the Messias before it's release then it comes out and... the big disillusionment comes :)

[Belmondo]

I heard from one betatester that Dota2 has slower pace to appeal to more casual audience with 300ms reaction time

[I7aggoHok]

Hope u know , u r talking about DotA 1 not 2 dump.
Well nothing will be keep ma from switching to DotA2!
S2 just destroyng their game on each weak more and more ... hf with more gold Alt´s.

nothing different, dota its dota

[Ashur]

Hats, as in, the one who decided selling 30€ hats should be put to trial for ruining tf2

[Tom8a]

Riki face stabbing everyone

[AMildKreteK]

I have lotssssssss of friend playing hon, i am talking bout 50-100, n most stated that they are gonna try dota2. I will wait for when they decided whether dota2 is better than hon ^^

[Caracole]

+ Possible unique gameplay feature DotA wouldn't have.
+ HoN may end up having a better hero pool when DotA 2 is released. Especially waiting for GOOD hero reworks. Fayde/Engi were not. Tree's better.

[Cesious]

Meepo.

[toofast]

Fix leavers issue (and consquent remake issues), grading system for new players (to set their psr), and better handling of MM in terms of who is teamed with who. They would also need to take dota2's features, like ability to coach people (or any kind of realtime observer feature), have bots or similar skilled players subbing in for leavers, and have bots in general for new players. They should also stop releasing OP heros. I don't mind if they make them initially weak, and keep buffing until they become good, but stop releasing them OP, off the bat. Or atleast use your dev heros mode, and ban new heros from MM for a week. If S2 does all that, then they have a chance of beating dota2 (assuming both games are relatively equivalent in gameplay, which should be likely, since valve are good games company).

[sHanQ]

What would keep you from switching to DOTA2?http://imageshack.us/f/101/honlx.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/hon2.png/
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5440/honlx.png

and

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9923/hon2.png



any questions?

[_Slick]

the fact that DOTA2 does not exist

[Shabe]

Well the truth is that Valve operates on Dedicated Servers. That means there's no chance that all the servers fail at once, because there are so many companies providing these instead of just one server-base (like S2) which is UNRELIABLE AS HELL!!!
I mean which day in a row it is when the login server fails now?

[kumiorava]

Nothing

[Mordred314]

I will probably sell my HoN accounts away when D2 is released, and never return to it's God-Forsaken shitwhole.
Sorry, I may or may not sell my hon accounts (Edited)

[IceyWill]

Godly single player/challenge mode (mass fun)/ map editor

Cough Cough Map Editor been out sinec 2.0 where u been.

Something keep from switchign to Dota2 ahhhhh I dont think i would ever play Dota 2 They say its 5$ for a full account since its that cheap i highly doubt its that great soposely have almost all similar to hon Voice Chat Reconnection blah blah. I bet graphics might look a "little" better than LoL . I would be play Diablo 3 when it comes out hardly any time for anything else :)



I will laugh so hard at everyone that instantly leaves to DOTA2 then crying there and coming back...

Always the same.. one game is like the Messias before it's release then it comes out and... the big disillusionment comes :)

Ikr :) I alos heard DotA2 is Slow pace slow like LoL

[I7aggoHok]

http://imageshack.us/f/101/honlx.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/hon2.png/
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5440/honlx.png

and

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9923/hon2.png



any questions?

but you play:)

[zOle`]

Stable servers !

[Farosarg]

I will try DotA2. If it is a lot better I might switch over. If it's good I might play both. If it flops, I'll then stick with HoN. You play the game whichever is more fun to play, not the game that has more "community approval value".

[Sinney]

Nothing would stop me from going Dota, HoN is crashing. LoL is even going more popular than hon. But dota 2 is taking the big price i think.

[Miveal]

Diablo 3

[HonStinks]

Name one game that even for $60 gets updated as much as HoN? Team Fortress 2 comes to mind. But it costs 9€, as opposed to 30€ or 60€, and gets updated a lot more often than HoN, so I guess that doesn't count.

[Typhy]

Team Fortress 2 comes to mind. But it costs 9€, as opposed to 30€ or 60€, and gets updated a lot more often than HoN, so I guess that doesn't count.

TF2 only got updated once every month max about a year ago. then they added all these microtransactions and hats and crap and now the game sucks.

[Nitrous_]

My guess is that when dota 2 comes out s2 will never have any problems with anything. it will all be excellent. Its economics, when they have monopoly on something they can do whatever they like, but when a rival appears (dota 2) they will do their best to keep their customers!

[niwoa]

nothing.

[Sapheron]

My guess is that when dota 2 comes out s2 will never have any problems with anything. it will all be excellent. Its economics, when they have monopoly on something they can do whatever they like, but when a rival appears (dota 2) they will do their best to keep their customers!
Aren't a lot of people leaving for LoL? Thats what I've heard anyway

[SaintFace]

original heros that i would MISS! right now the only reason i want to go back to dota is for all those heros that i want to play. and to get away from all the heros i WONT MISS in hon. like dw, pred, mali, panda etc.

[i_am_da_pwn]

Nothing.

[Catastrophe]

Nothing could stop me. Hon has turned into an unbalanced cash cow.

[dmae]

Guild Wars 2

[Area11]

Godly single player/challenge mode (mass fun)/ map editor

Extremely nice idea, I propose this before the beta was closed too. They said they don't wanna do it so... :(

[Omgopolis]

The thread title seems poorly written; it seems to imply that I will be switching to Dota 2 unless something happens to stop me. That's not the case. I'm fairly certain the only thing that could get me to buy and play Dota 2 is HoN going down permanently. And it would require that Dota 2 comes out before Diablo 3 or Guild Wars 2 comes out, as I'll probably play those quite a bit when they come out, and play HoN quite a bit less as a result. And Dota 2 would also have to be at least as good as HoN. I don't feel comfortable assuming it's better when I haven't seen anything about it yet.

So yeah, if HoN is still being maintained (very likely), I'm not going to bother with Dota 2. Even if it did go down, I'd only bother with Dota 2 if it was out way before other interesting games came out. The only way I'd reconsider is if Dota 2 was significantly better, which I doubt will be true, especially since there will be plenty of time for HoN to improve before Dota 2 is out.

[Fettkeewl]

If dumb people that makes theese kinds of threads moved on to DOTA2 id definetly stay in HoN,
can't take mentally challanged people on theese forums, stop making these BS threads and support S2 instead.



or GTFO?

[AboveThis]

http://cdn.venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/valve_head_home.gif

This

[nGio]

I'll play HoN still, but LoL is the best choice for right now unfortunately. So I'll kinda play HoN/LoL for now until DoTA 2, and then uninstall all of and it when Diablo 3 comes :DD

[Vanguardian]

probably keep playing both games, unless DotA 2 ends up being a hat-fest like TF2 has become.

[Asator]

Did anyone say hats?

[Ranzo]

My alt avatars man, did noy buy all premium **** to then dimpmy start playinh a diffirent game!

[HonStinks]

TF2 only got updated once every month max about a year ago. then they added all these microtransactions and hats and crap and now the game sucks.http://www.tf2wiki.net/wiki/Patches

Ever since they have launched they've constantly fixed bugs, improved pre-existing features and added new ones.

Even without that wiki junk I would know that because whenever I play SC2 or check out some youtube vids or whatever, there are these lag spikes and lo and behold its always TF2 updating and it happens very, VERY often.

As for the microtransactions, theres an ingame store and... nothing else as far as I can tell. Whats the problem?

[Nasty``]

the fact that it doesnt exist

[maeckes]

The deserts power.

[FloppyTaint]

Custom maps

[ZzShadow]

I think I'll move over to DOTA2 as soon as it comes out. And I'll bet I'm not the only player either... and sorry to say but I don't have enough time to play HON then... not that it matters seeing as they are DDOS'd 24/7....

[MarineCorps]

Nothing can ever beat HoN. I'm still going to play HoN even when DOTA 2 comes out.. Becausee HoN was the first strategy game i played since beta (which was free at the time). Never played dota, and never will =p

[qwqtgwy]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk

[AceGom]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[ZzShadow]

Sigh please come soon...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/DotA2.jpg/250px-DotA2.jpg

[LuksCG]

i will leave too, cause they fu cked up with Amun-Ra alt avatar thar i bought for 600 golden coins, and i bought just an image

[Techies]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/DotA2.jpg/250px-DotA2.jpg
Make custom Icon?

[Disposition9]

So while HoN has been having it's ups and downs, I like many others have tried out LoL and figured I would post my thoughts here. :) I would also like to add DotA 2 in to my comparisons for a few reasons which I will go over later. :D


HoN

Pros:

-Amazing game engine.
-Amazing graphics for a Moba.
-Weekly updates.
-Constant communication with the community. (I'm talking respectable communication, not on the hourly communication requirements the 12 year olds on the forum demand because of the recent issues.)
-HoN team always on the forum posting in random threads.
-Amazing game mechanics.
-The best replay system I have seen to date.
-Many amazing updates from DotA.
-Many different modes to play based on preference.
-Many NEW heroes, although with a change in game play they are welcome in my books.
-DEDICATED SERVERS (which up until this month/last for the whole of Beta and actual release had 99.9% uptime.
-Patches don't turn the servers off.
-Leaver protection.
-RAP System.
-Game statistics.
-Delays are minor.
-IN GAME VOICE.
-Nice Gui both in game and at launch.

Cons:

-Completely immature & wildly raging teenagers. (Possibly adults who have no life and don't understand problems happen/life doesn't always go the way YOU want)
-This last month has been rather rough.
-Updates don't always reflect the general public and most changes are only because of 1700+ testing.



LoL

Pros:

-Easy mode, I'm not HoN pro but I can walk through a game of LoL and 9/10 times be 2-4:1
-Relaxing.
-Way better community.
-Different kind of game play, more like CM in HoN.
-Neat level up system, let's you customize more, I personally enjoy it.
-Noob friendly.

Cons:

-Easy mode is also a con. :D
-Terrain is bland.
-Level 18 Max.
-Can not play ranked games until level 30 which is around 3-4 games a day worth of play for a month.
-No replays.
-No stats until you can play in ranked games.
-Until you play ranked games you get qued with randoms of complete variety of skill in which means you can have an amazing personal score but still lose.
-No denies. (Takes away from game play in HUGE ways you won't understand unless you understand why the mechanic is in HoN.)
-No staff on forums EVER.
-Their GUI for the game is extremely slow, I have an amazing computer and LoL lags like a mofo in the GUI.
-Not as good competitively as HoN.
-Huge down times with patches.


DotA2

Pros:

- The next game in the "DotA" franchise.
- Nothing else.

Cons:

- The main developer is ICEFAG, I give the man "some" credit as to the SMALL contribution he has given to DotA but if anyone has done any real research on him, he's a face and nothing more. He's completely and utterly useless and he WILL burn DotA2 in to the ground.





So for now and in to the foreseeable future I will continue to play HoN while being serious and LoL while drinking for the LoL's. :D HoN is a very well polished all around game, has everything I could ask for in a MobA and regardless how long it may take me buy everything "cosmetic" over time, for me gameplay and mechanics destroy cosmetics and without all the extras HoN has it all.

Regards,

Dispo!

[SouthGarden]

your thread is totally unbiased at all, I am sure HoN's overwhelmingly advantages over these two utterly horrible games will implicate that HoN is already dominating the market. Too bad, Icefrog has way more followers worldwide, don't be jelly k?

[skeloperch]

100% agree with this.

[Disposition9]

your thread is totally unbiased at all, I am sure HoN's overwhelmingly advantages over these two utterly horrible games will implicate that HoN is already dominating the market. Too bad, Icefrog has way more followers worldwide, don't be jelly k?

It really is to bad that icefags followers don't know the truth about him, really.

Regards,

[Davehz]

Had a couple of good points, but the dota2 part just made me laugh.

[EmzyRogee]

OH please anyone that actually was involved with the dota community beyond a superficial level knew that IceFrog took a majority of his ideas from others. In fact guinsoo did the same thing, you know how guinsoo balanced dota? he got drunk on Solitas' vent played a few games and whatever heros kicked his ass he nerfed, true ****ing story. There were 4 versions where my beautiful Leshrac was ultra gimp because of what I did :(.
-Emzi.

Edit:Fixes!

[Ironfury]

This is not right. No, it isn't. I play LoL and HoN (jelly?) and I can say in confidence that your cons for LoL are about as imbalanced as when Xin Zhao was when he first came out.

#1: You say level a level cap of 18 is a con. Why is this bad, exactly? I don't see it drastically affecting gameplay. At all. Ever.

#2: I don't view the terrain as bland. You clearly haven't seen everything that Halloween Summoner's Rift has to offer.

#3: Wouldn't you want to play a few normal mode games first before your record is publically displayed on a worldwide scoreboard? Being forced to level 30 before ranked play isn't a con.

#4: The staff are on the forums most of the time. Really, it's clear you were just trying to find a way to bash LoL at this point.

#5: A lack of a denial mechanic is fine in LoL. Really, it is.

#6: Huge downtimes? I've got well over 300 or so games in LoL, and I can say that the downtimes aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be.

In short, your post is biased beyond belief. I can't agree with what you've put at all.

[Sabre070]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[EmzyRogee]

This is not right. No, it isn't. I play LoL and HoN (jelly?) and I can say in confidence that your cons for LoL are about as imbalanced as when Xin Zhao was when he first came out.

#1: You say level a level cap of 18 is a con. Why is this bad, exactly? I don't see it drastically affecting gameplay. At all. Ever.

#2: I don't view the terrain as bland. You clearly haven't seen everything that Halloween Summoner's Rift has to offer.

#3: Wouldn't you want to play a few normal mode games first before your record is publically displayed on a worldwide scoreboard? Being forced to level 30 before ranked play isn't a con.

#4: The staff are on the forums most of the time. Really, it's clear you were just trying to find a way to bash LoL at this point.

#5: A lack of a denial mechanic is fine in LoL. Really, it is.

#6: Huge downtimes? I've got well over 300 or so games in LoL, and I can say that the downtimes aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be.

In short, your post is biased beyond belief. I can't agree with what you've put at all.


You are a tard. A lower cap on levels means the guy raping the game gets less and less around mid instead of late, no denies means your sitting there doing NOTHING for a while, denies are in every RTS game for a reason, stopping your opponents from getting experience, gold, and other resources is usually the way to win a STRATEGY game.

[DrRisan]

[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]DotA2

Pros:

- The next game in the "DotA" franchise.
- Nothing else.

Cons:

- The main developer is ICEFAG, I give the man "some" credit as to the SMALL contribution he has given to DotA but if anyone has done any real research on him, he's a face and nothing more. He's completely and utterly useless and he WILL burn DotA2 in to the ground.





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Hmmm?

[Ironfury]

All are wrong. Your point on removal of denial is enough to show how dumb you are.

Stupidity is a matter of perspective.

I'm capable of naming several different parts of the brain. Your response demonstrates that years of HoN experience have shrunk your frontal lobes to the size of rasinets while your amygdala is working overtime.

Really. I'm not dumb. Your reponse is short and immature. Bring more :madm: next time.

[remembervhs]

rofl good thread man

[skeloperch]

Hmmm?


Nothing else. Really. DotA is imbalanced, and I bet DOTA2 will be as well.

[EmzyRogee]

Stupidity is a matter of perspective.

I'm capable of naming several different parts of the brain. Your response demonstrates that years of HoN experience have shrunk your frontal lobes to the size of rasinets while your amygdala is working overtime.

Really. I'm not dumb. Your reponse is short and immature. Bring more :madm: next time.

You don't have to be stupid for your opinion to be.

[Ironfury]

You are a tard. A lower cap on levels means the guy raping the game gets less and less around mid instead of late, no denies means your sitting there doing NOTHING for a while, denies are in every RTS game for a reason, stopping your opponents from getting experience, gold, and other resources is usually the way to win a STRATEGY game.

You do realize that you're using an unfortunate birth defect as an insult...right?

Get real. When I play LoL, I'm rarely sitting around doing NOTHING. Being free of denials allows me to focus on harassing the enemy team, gaining last hits, pushing the lane, and keeping my eyes and ears open for ganks.

No denial works for LoL, in the same way that denial works for HoN. Two different games. I just prefer one over the other.

[Ironfury]

You don't have to be stupid for your opinion to be.

Allow me to define opinion for you.

"A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

You're stating your opinion as if it were a fact, while stating mine as though it were a buch of horse poop. That shows a high degree of hostility and ignorance on your part. Lighten up.

[EmzyRogee]

Actually my statement is 100% true and fact, You in fact do not have to be stupid to have a stupid opinion. So in LoL when your ranged v ranged both playing smart, and the creep waves are at half what do you do? Oh that's right you auto-attack and sit there, LoL might as well be an Idevice game, it's essentially a flashy cartoon.

[livmew]

Nothing else. Really. DotA is imbalanced, and I bet DOTA2 will be as well.

DotA's balance hinges on a lot of heroes being autobanned. Looking forward to dota 2. =/

[Ironfury]

Actually my statement is 100% true and fact, You in fact do not have to be stupid to have a stupid opinion. So in LoL when your ranged v ranged both playing smart, and the creep waves are at half what do you do? Oh that's right you auto-attack and sit there, LoL might as well be an Idevice game, it's essentially a flashy cartoon.

At this point, your mind's made up. There is really no point left in trying to get you to see things from my perspective. You can hate on LoL all you'd like but that won't change a few things:

HoN has the forums where people make personal attacks on other players. At the same time, LoL has no threads starting about HoN on their forums. HoN players are always trying to put down LoL, and this speaks volumes about their fanbase.

Whatever. Have fun with HoN. I have, as I have with LoL.

[Tumultuous]

At this point, your mind's made up. There is really no point left in trying to get you to see things from my perspective. You can hate on LoL all you'd like but that won't change a few things:

HoN has the forums where people make personal attacks on other players. At the same time, LoL has no threads starting about HoN on their forums. HoN players are always trying to put down LoL, and this speaks volumes about their fanbase.

Whatever. Have fun with HoN. I have, as I have with LoL.

Pretty sure there are a few threads on the LoL forums about Hon. lol. gtfo.

[Ironfury]

Pretty sure there are a few threads on the LoL forums about Hon. lol. gtfo.

...You've told me to go twice now.

Yes, there are a few threads on LoL about HoN. They're not nearly as plentiful as they are here.

And by the bye, as far as 12-year-old trolls go in the community, you're "Exhibit A" dear chap.

[Ironfury]

No really. LoL players literally AUTO ATTACK creeps and try and kill the enemy's tower instead of trying to just lasthit

You most likely have less than 50 games of LoL under your belt if that's all that you can think of.

You and the'Wicked have turned this from a valid discussion to a series of personal attacks on my person. Keep up the good work, I'm sure that the critics will change their mind about HoN's forsaken community any day now.

[Ocpic]

you obviously havent played and LoL and just trying to make HON the best game.
howcome lvl 18 is a con? and howcome you decide that its easy mode?
and also it seems like you havent played any DotA as well. if you have ever played dota BEFORE HoN beta, you would not call ICEFROG as ICEFAG.
go **** your self.

and here is some more CON for HON:
you simply cannot play the game due the server issues/error
unstable servers
s2 is making balanced heroes op so some noobs can have more fun
really bad customer support

and also , you dont pay for LoL or dota, but they have much better support.
im sure ICEFROG will come up with the best game ever made.
also, i uninstalled the game last night because its not playable anymore. even when you play, theres a new bloodhunter. which is quite op. BH>all
so **** you s2, **** you hon, and hon lover, s2cocksuckers.

[Tumultuous]

...You've told me to go twice now.

Yes, there are a few threads on LoL about HoN. They're not nearly as plentiful as they are here.

And by the bye, as far as 12-year-old trolls go in the community, you're "Exhibit A" dear chap.

wasn't a troll, son. The things you say make no sense what so ever, like "pushing the lane"

Anyone that is even decent can tell you that you DO NOT want to push a lane when attempting to farm, unless you have a push heavy lane setup that WILL down the enemy tower against weaker enemy laners,

You also stated that there are NO threads on lol forums started about hon, and just now changed that to "a few" because someone called you out on it.

Go learn the definition of words before you attempt to use them in a sentence, i hear you might look less silly that way.

[Disposition9]

you dont pay for dota, but they have much better support.

By you saying this you have made me feel the rest of your post is invalid because sure "dota" as a mod is free but in order to play that mod legitimately you have to have WC3 bought and paid for, if you are one of the kids that steals games to play online then I feel sorry for your shallow pockets.

Regards,

[Okuu]

7 posts deleted in 2 pages..
Imb4 quarantine

I dislike insult-fests

[JxPAB]

1) New shopmenu ingame, as big as the ass of a bull, as inintuitive as having sex with your left hand. STILL NOT FIXED

2) New totally OP imb4 heroes each week. S2 balances the game by releasing imbalanced heroes. Meanwhile, geometers bane keep rotting and SW is just useless.

3) No more runes at 0:00. Of course, the early game fun with rune ganks was unskilled ? BIG JOKE

4) Removal of secret shop. Yes, we are S2 and we're copying Riot Games.

I play LoL now, at least I can feel like I'm playing a casual role playing MOBA. Even it's not.

S2, you had already killed your own game. But I didn't think you would gore its dead body month after month.

PS : I'm only here to check every 2-3 weeks if S2 are putting the old shop back and making some good improvements. Real joke !

[moktarr]

who cares? shitcunt

[pindakaas]

You are a whiny *****, that's why you left. More news at 11.

[DarkWarrior]

A++ thread, would recommend to others.

[JxPAB]

^ Haha, HoN became a n00b game so hard !

No wonder why all the pros left for LoL !

[SirpopsAlot]

As usual can't login.S2 plz stop lying to us when you say the problem is fixed.I think its funny when they "solve" a problem they feel the need to anooounce it in such a big way but when something goes wrong we dont hear jack **** from S2.All i can say is Dota2 FTW i am sure it won't have alll these problems.

[Dandy]

I can't login either..

[cocarin]

As usual can't login.S2 plz stop lying to us when you say the problem is fixed.I think its funny when they "solve" a problem they feel the need to anooounce it in such a big way but when something goes wrong we dont hear jack **** from S2.All i can say is Dota2 FTW i am sure it won't have alll these problems.

Complaining about servers being down because of a denial of service attack is like complaining to your bank that you can't make a deposit when it's in the process of being robbed.

[makeitjazzy]

http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec

obviously you guys shouldn't take a career in current affairs.
there's another group of hackers trying to take down the servers of multiple online games "for the lulz."

[makeitjazzy]

http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec

obviously you guys shouldn't take a career in current affairs.
there's another group of hackers trying to take down the servers of multiple online games "for the lulz."

[makeitjazzy]

lul double post.

[DUMB_]

I'm right there with u. The game is just too buggy and inconvenient as it is now. Main reason I play is because my friends and it's the best out of this genre but once dota2 comes out... OH BABY!

[MikeEasy]

i am because they ****ing suck.

this isnt spam. this is truth.

[Filletter`]

will test out DotA2
leave HoN?
never!

[DrRisan]

Why wait for DOTA 2, leave now!

[Murlox]

Hi I'm 12

[W00piii]

i am because they ****ing suck.

this isnt spam. this is truth.


Well good sir go and Delete your fking account!!
Instead of this stupid thread.

If you dont like HoN LEAVE why POST on FORUM?!

Its like: Look at me, i say i wanna leave..
Haah sure you are just sitting and waiting till HoN is up again.

Leave please

[DLG]

shizzle

[Gorgor]

i will immediately uninstall that shitgame (hon) when dota 2 is released

[Art_Vandalay]

before posting, did u even read about the ddos attacks currently? or how lulzsec is targetting hon? man u are one of those guys that lives under a rock and gets the message last it appears. Sorry to be you

[Sgt_Iggy]

no :madm:

[madnetiC]

i wonder why these ****ing chubby cunthead kinds still play HoN... This game is not for u go to ****ing garena play with u poor nerd friends so we get rid of noobs like u. be sure no one gives a **** if u leave or not.
get the **** out right away u dont have to announce.

[FrostPetal]

You may have a slight brain functioning problem mate. I mean, if you don't like the game then leave. That easy. Yes, it is annoying being a customer of the game and not being able to play. But, you also have to understand that it is not S2's fault by any means. Two DDoS attacks within a month period. That's brutal. No company could defend against that huge of a botnet. Especially DOTA2.

[Teesiyo]

dota2 fo sho )

[Wakawl]

Im gone.
S2 hope you go bankrupt.

[Mazinkaiser]

Remember, your only allowed to play ONE. Playing both is a federal crime up to 5 years in prison.

CHOOSE WISLEY :blac:

[Resin]

Lmfaoooo all you children who think Dota2 is going to better are dreaming, delete your accounts please.

[pampanelli]

yeah probably a lot of hon players will leave after dota2 is released.

mainly after this 2 weeks full of issues proving s2 cant fix their problems effectively


gogo drow ranger :arac:

[FetusKing]

dota 2 here we come
fuk s2 wannabe hardcore brahster and gangster community oh yes, and to those nerds tha tlike to type well over the inernet on a forum :D

[MikeEasy]

this game beats LoL out of the water and if i had another alternative to turn to that was decent I would be gone... in the mean time i guess ill play this garbage game (garbage team too). so for your S2 lovers..get off their tip and find a real company that makes real games. Not sure how many games S2 has made and they are not worth my effort of researching but my bet is that HoN is their only major title (which is a fail). So, yes I will leave when i find a better alternative. So this fail game must due. Fail fail fail. my bad forgot to say fail.

Edit: @ Resin: your telling me S2 beats valve? Im sure gabe is going to make sure valve makes s2 look like a *****.

@ whoever said DDOS attacks cant be defended blah blah, valve never fails. steam has never let anyone down.

[CookMySock]

lulz has hacked codemastes too

[LtCAllenWest]

Of course. This game survives only because there is no comparable choice. LoL is more balanced, but graphics are unappealing. DOTA2 will be balanced, incorperate all the improvements that HoN introduced (matchmaking, online community, leave penalties) and be more stable (based on their reputation). Their admins won't be raging racists either.

[EvilGau]

can someone point me to the Dota 2 site that's been a bit more updated than 1st Nov 2010?

[MrBloom]

So when you local store is burning down you don´t fetch a bucket but u throw some gasoline at the fire and state that you "just can´t wait until they open a 7/11 here. You know, they will totally be like, out of buissness then. And you know? I rly think they kinda snapped at me when i asked a question earlier. Well good riddance I say to them thank you very much."

Well you can cry wolf all you want but there aint no Dota2 and even if there were why would u whine about it here?

[Thooom]

Going straight for DotA 2. I can't take these remakes and leavers no more. It's rubbish really. S2 can fix it by doing one of the following:
* 2% leave max for matchmaking
* Give people leaves for leaving even though it was a remake
* 9/9 votes to make it a remake
* Concede available from 0:00
* Kicks only needed by teammates automatically as soon as they DC.

[Shin__]

Leaving for SSFIV AE.

Tired of loosing because of my team.

Tired of grinding in a pvp-game.

Tired of not been able to play every 2 days.

[RellikReyalp]

I almost hope that all people that say they are leaving HoN for dota 2, will have the same problems there and if they are leaving for the game just when its released i almost hope the game sucks.

With that said i certainly will try it but i wont change if the game is less fun.

[Chaosboom]

This is so stupid.
I'm going to leave HoN when Dota2 releases, but I still think HoN is a great game, and if Dota2 isn't as good, I will return. Not because S2 are cool, or because Valve are such dicks. But because on one side you have a fun game and one the other side you have the EXACT same game, just better. Which one will prove to be the best... only time will tell. But so "swear" loyalty to S2 (Don't wan't to mention names... ok W00piii) is not only far out, it's absurd.

TL;DR. Dota2 and HoN are the exact same game. One will better, that game will be favored

[Jakloom]

I'll give dota 2 many chances, however if it's bad I'll come back to hon or find a new genre.

[PoopsDeath]

I think I'll play both.

[Rahryx]

when dota 2 comes, all the noobs will leave hon and we can play hon again like in beta with good players :)

[MrBloom]

when dota 2 comes, all the noobs will leave hon and we can play hon again like in beta with good players :)

it´s not that they were good players. It´s just that you sucked so much more back then? :)

[musoraninn]

i'll try Dota 2 for sure,but i never leave HoN !!!

[buttersauce]

I will definitely try it.

[DesertPunk89]

Dota 2 ftw , hon r.i.p

[Chania]

Nope and noone cares if you will either. Stop making these threads.

[LoNeS]

Im gonna try LoL now... see ya S2;

[Styne]

0-9999

:scou:

[ProxxNL]

TROLL!

[DUMB_]

69 ... anything else and you'd be gay

[mexykanu]

1338

[dmak]

We have stable servers.

[_Wolf_]

servers are fine, recent attacks might still have a lingering effect. To quick to come to any negative conclusion.

Be more constructive please.

[Yup]

What do you mean fine..-.-?

IT takes a very long time to login, and you either get no respone from server or your account could not be auth..

try to login before u say it's fine.

[dmak]

servers are fine, recent attacks might still have a lingering effect. To quick to come to any negative conclusion.

Be more constructive please.



u mad? or :noma:?

[WhiskeyInJar]

Hon server just went down? or is it me

[_Wolf_]

neither, just enlightening the obvious dumb ppl that think game development and network/servers are easy to maintain and recover from.

u troll or just dumb?

[Keetsune]

neither, just enlightening the obvious dumb ppl that think game development and network/servers are easy to maintain and recover from.

u troll or just dumb?

U just talking sh`t

[WhiskeyInJar]

just plaayed 1 game, and now it cant autorize my account, log out, and cant login any more, its down.

[dmak]

neither, just enlightening the obvious dumb ppl that think game development and network/servers are easy to maintain and recover from.

u troll or just dumb?

And it should be fixed in a timely matter that doesn't take almost a month.

[SF3]

Take my money

[WhiskeyInJar]

dota 1 was never down, hon 8days a week is down :D

[WhiskeyInJar]

well, appoligize server is not down, its just login who take about 5 min, even worse.

[Redz]

S2 is trying hard.. thats the problem, they should just shut down the servers and fix the problem.

[Snicla]

Take my money

http://files.sharenator.com/Shut_up_and_take_my_money_RE_Gues_what_this_is-s500x313-149402-580.jpg

[Koi_Nekko]

neither, just enlightening the obvious dumb ppl that think game development and network/servers are easy to maintain and recover from.

u troll or just dumb?

Well.... to be fair flagship servers went down less and Hellgate: London crashed and burned. And I thought that game was great.

Just some food for thought. At least I didn't buy their life time subscription. ><

[pakoito]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/20/dota-2-f2p/

[Unclesoppa]

LoL terribads: Yup
rage: I don't think this needs to be answered
ingame advantages: If being fabulous counts as an advantage

[OUJEA]

ingame advantages: being able to play it, unlike this

[DatAsh`]

“microwave transactions”

Saw this.
Whole text suspicious to be faked :|

[Tripping]

LOL Valve, it won't get released for years, and then it will be good before it patches it and makes it really bad... like most other valve games

[Rofl_Cake]

DotA 2 might suck now that the LoL crowd will have its stinking peasant grips on it? Dear me, looks like us rambling madmen may have been right after all.

[cr0sis]

Saw this.
Whole text suspicious to be faked :|

-Woosh-

That's the sound of the joke the article tried to make going right over your head

:zeph:

[pakoito]

Saw this.
Whole text suspicious to be faked :|
It's RPS, they use this thing called "humor" that you don't have in Korea. Anyway as they said the article was google translated from a french site, but the news is also in PCGamer

[DatAsh`]

-Woosh-

That's the sound of the joke the article tried to make going right over your head

:zeph:

Who thinks that this pathetic try to be funny IS funny is kinda under age to know valve OR has a lower IQ then :arma:...

[chainest]

dont know what i have to think about it.

i love hon already but i will obviously give dota2 a try - i think i will play both.

[cr0sis]

It wasn't an attempt to be funny. It was an attempt to inform you that your suspicions were wrong.

The whole article is conjecture, nothing has been confirmed, this threads title is misleading.


But which game? Monsieur Lombardi wouldn’t say much more on the matter. DotA 2 seems to be as fair a guess as any

At least call out the information that appears to blatantly announce it might be false, rather than their attempt at humour which you failed to notice.

[Qwernakus]

Rofl. Microwave Transsactions.

[FtFF]

For God's sake, I hope they don't make it free. They can add all the shops they want, I just don't want to play a free game. One of the main reasons I chose HoN over LoL was due to the fact that LoL was free.

DotA seems to be the perfect game for the f2p model, though. It has lots of cosmetic **** you can sell and they will probably "ship" it with a Jew goblin shop be it free or not.

[Django]

If I have to pay for heroes (not models), I'm not gonna play Dota 2.

[EvilRebel]

Nobody has confirmed that DOTA 2 will be free. What has been confirmed is that S2 are considering to make HoN free.

[Bainshie]

Considering it's a Valve game I'd guess that because they'd want VAC to actually work.....

I dunno, I'm guessing a orange box priced game, with hats to make up the rest of the cost.

Also they are offically registered at Gamescon, in August, presumably the start/middle of a pre-launch advertising compaign, so I'd guess a winter/spring release.

[CrashBashL]

if they will have Micro Transaction, il never play it just cause all the in game advantages will cause just like LOL.

i mean i tried LOL with Dr. Mundo, and in the other team was another Dr Mundo that had 300 HP more than i did at lvl 1?????
**** you LOL !!!
but that is not an in game advantage, right? hahaha
or when a guy is putting all those CRIT runes on his char page then enters a game and onli crits from lvl 1.. that is not a in game advantage, right?? hahaha

[pakoito]

Who thinks that this pathetic try to be funny IS funny is kinda under age to know valve OR has a lower IQ then :arma:...
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/memes-why-because-youre-american.jpg

[Felathar]

Read


http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/20/valve-free-to-play-game-yes-its-being-worked-on/


Then


Comment.


I say is gonna be the death of HoN and LoL.

[Mizarus]

it wont kill either games, especially LoL that is much more friendly to new players then DotA, and their player base is HUGE.

HoN wont die either, but it will take a bigger hit, since it has less players, HoN might need to go free.

Also this is only speculation, Vavle F2P game could be Dota2/Tf2 or a brand new game, for all we know

[RickJamesB_]

U will be long gone how freaking awsome!

[haschisch]

If DOTA2 tries to jump onto the F2P-train it will be ran down by that train.

[RickJamesB_]

«Of course, the first question is ‘which game?’ Valve are known to currently be working on Dota 2, the sequel to Warcraft 3 mod Defence of the Ancients (http://www.playdota.com/). Dota has spawned many similar unofficial successors. One of these most notable of these is League of Legends (http://www.leagueoflegends.com/), which thrives on a free-to-play model bolstered by micro-transactions. Could Valve be planning something similar for Dota 2? We could find out more in August when Valve appear at Gamescom (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/17/valve-attending-gamescom-2011/).»

Now that's a serious article. many similar unofficial sucessors...LoL. Yeah DUDE u obviously knows what u talking about. LoL looks a lot more like Dota than HoN.

It's just a bad article from someone who doing publicity, and maybe licking nuts of Valve

[Felathar]

«Of course, the first question is ‘which game?’ Valve are known to currently be working on Dota 2, the sequel to Warcraft 3 mod Defence of the Ancients (http://www.playdota.com/). Dota has spawned many similar unofficial successors. One of these most notable of these is League of Legends (http://www.leagueoflegends.com/), which thrives on a free-to-play model bolstered by micro-transactions. Could Valve be planning something similar for Dota 2? We could find out more in August when Valve appear at Gamescom (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/17/valve-attending-gamescom-2011/).»

Now that's a serious article. many similar unofficial sucessors...LoL. Yeah DUDE u obviously knows what u talking about. LoL looks a lot more like Dota than HoN.

It's just a bad article from someone who doing publicity, and maybe licking nuts of Valve

Agreed. Someone mention TF2 but TF2 is already announced to go FT2. So it has to be DOTA2 ... I don't know what else could It be.

[Quinnal]

If it does go F2P then the community is not going to be as mature and will be riddled with the younger audience who like to try games. After a while when the new people get constantly stomped they will leave. The remaining players should be a bit more experienced but will have a steady supply of new players joining and leaving causing the games Avrg skill level to be on the lower side but will still have a good amount of players who know what their doing. If the better Dota players are not helpful or kind to the newer dudes then they will never get better and the game will be split in 2. HoN will keep a good steady amount of players who know what they are doing and don't mind paying 30 bucks for a more mature community. And LoL will stay the same forever.

[King3baid]

then it will get all "DotA-LoL-HoN" Players, would be awesome!

[GollyWowsers]

Counter Strike: Source was "supposed" to be amazingly superior to CS 1.6. Yet more people play 1.6 casually and competitively. Why? cause source sucked ass. Same fate lies with Dota 2.

By the time Valve butchers the game in attempts bring in more profit you guys will see what having a big time company in charge of a niche game will do.*

This same thing happened to a mmorpg called Vanguard. Beautiful concepts and was being made by the same creator as Ever-quest...Well due to budget constraints he had to sale out SoE to provide funding. Well, This move completely* ruined the game as SoE made him change many things to cater to profiteering.

Im sure this has happened many times in the past.

Enjoy your watered down piece of crap that Valve will produce. So nieve!

[Zaniir]

How exactly did Cs:s "suck ass"?

[Dacko]

If it sux, there is still HoN.

[MojoSoul]

Its will be full of rager kids.

[Felathar]

If we can play DOTA 2 it doesnt matter if it sucks. Meanwhile HoN will be under maintenance. Every single day.

[Mazinkaiser]

CS:S does suck, I don't know why people still play it. Even TF2 is getting dumpstered with all the imba **** and stupid hats they keep adding :(

[gew]

FACT: At least it will run without all the "scheduled maintenance time" bullshit that S2 manages to get away with.

[Typhoon]

For CSS people were only coming from 1.6
For Dota 2 people will be coming from HoN LoL and Dota

[Necroth]

FACT: im posting in your thread.

[Legionnaire]

Only reason why people still play CS:S is because its fun (as in requires no skillz). Take a deagle or AK, aim in general direction of head, HEAD SHOT!

[TheIronDuke]

Enjoy your watered down piece of crap that Valve will produce. So nieve!


So nieve!


nieve!

Okay

[RusheZ]

you sir are an idiot

[Anilusion]

CS:S "failed" because it wasn't IDENTICAL to CS 1.6. The CS 1.6 community has more kids and fanboys than any other game community. If all games that aren't IDENTICAL to their predecesor would fail, wouldn't HoN have failed a long time ago?

[Casshern]

CS:S takes skill? That's a laugh.

[GollyWowsers]

you sir are an idiot

Ya... cause Icefraud "the messiah" wouldn't ever sell out for a couple of bucks, right?

[Whip]

It's supposed to be DotA with better engine&graphics...

[GollyWowsers]

For CSS people were only coming from 1.6
For Dota 2 people will be coming from HoN LoL and Dota

So take a gander at which has the bigger population/consumers? ... What will be valves prime target for market share? LoL...

[SurfBoy85]

all DotA 2 gonna need is to be playable... since HoN is not mostly of the time.

[Lolita]

I will just play HoN, LoL & Dota 2 , and have fun in all of them.

Wow, what a shock!

[DatAsh`]

Any valve game takes skill?
I lol'd.

[GollyWowsers]

It's supposed to be DotA with better engine&graphics...

right...

you sir are gullible!

[Aswan]

Dota 2 will suck... if having steam is a prereq. for it...
Dota 2 won't suck... if you are not bound to that crappy platform

[AliasRaegiru]

OP is a genuine s2 troll fanboy dumbass, or an s2roll, as I like to call them.


Dota 2 will stomp over HoN, or at least I'm optimistic that it will.

It's less because I dislike s2's greedy tendencies and their cold-shoulder/blatant lies about genuine issues, but moreover because I absolutely disdain this community.

I've really never encountered a community as venomous as Hon's, and that's quite the notorious achievement. You either encounter the following groups of jerks:

brazilians that rudely talk in Portuguese when there are English-speaking members on the team, then proceed to suck or go off and do their own thing

elitist 17 year olds that hang out with their friends/clanmates and pick on teamates, go into lanes together in spite of stupid combinations, etc.

random trolls that just want to see the game ruined

VERY, VERY RARELY (like a secret rare yugioh card, forgive the droll analogy) a nice player



On a side note, I find icefrog's heroes MUCH more interesting and balanced than s2's.

If you can, in good conscience, say that a hero like flux or parasite is as balanced as a hero like ra, then you're either deluded or just stupid. You can argue different roles/stats, but at the end of the day the individual hero's ability to do what they need to do is effectively like a lacuna.

[TheSparky]

I will laugh @ Steam achievements which are "forcing" to play specific heroes/playstyles.

BLOODBATH! - Do over 2000 damage with :bloo: ulti.

[Whip]

right...

you sir are gullible!

You sir are ignorant.

[SinXL]

Good news. All the tards will migrate to dota2 and hon will be tardfree.
I've waited for this day for 2 years!!!

[DatAsh`]

You all know that Valve is even more greedy than S2, do you?

[ThorZalN]

dota is likely to be f2p. so, stop being such a negative ******* and try enjoying things

[tauliss]

I don't know if anyone here remembers anything, when cs:s first came out the competitive scene boomed. CS:S was played in every league and tournament. 'Til the downfall of the competitive scene in general when the recession came about cs:s was the #1 played game easily.

[Zurglmi]

HoN has been playable most of the time since beta. Real issues appeared only a few weeks ago.

[DARKPROKILLX]

This is quite an amusing statement, do you suggest that Battlefield 3 will suck aswell?

[DounJeimes]

move this thread to quarantine now !! oh wait

[GollyWowsers]

Cause Dota 2 will magically get a different community? Right...Sorry bro, your stuck with it.

[bradzilla]

I don't know if anyone here remembers anything, when cs:s first came out the competitive scene boomed. CS:S was played in every league and tournament. 'Til the downfall of the competitive scene in general when the recession came about cs:s was the #1 played game easily.

Uh.... False. 1.6 Had the highest peak in competitive play, and for the longest stretch. Still is more casually and competitively played than source. Professional teams moved to source for about 5 months when they were offered gaming contracts by television execs to play that league broadcasted on G4. They didn't have a choice, they had to follow the money.

Show got cancelled, nearly all professional teams moved right back to cs 1.6. There's a reason for that.

[FooFighter]

You sir are Russian!!!

[iggie]

How exactly did Cs:s "suck ass"?
It decimated the competitive scene. They made too many changes that pissed off the majority of players. For me it was crouching slowing down movement speed momentarily. **** that smell.

[Mazinkaiser]

You all know that Valve is even more greedy than S2, do you?

/thread

[xcz]

FACT: Valve has had half as many problems in all the years they have been running as s2 has had in the past two months.

FACT: You're a kiss ass. I don't care who calls me a whinny kid or tries to troll me, fact is there is always an excuse when it comes to S2. There have always been problems, and there are always new shitty things released that are created to make money. If they concentrated on stabilizing their servers or databases rather than creating new skins, avatars, announcers or what ever, they would have a lot more satisfied customers.. Just slayin'.

[LOLRAPEE]

By your logic, HoN and LoL are watered down pieces of crap from DotA. Get over yourself kid.

[FallenAngels]

Counter Strike: Source was "supposed" to be amazingly superior to CS 1.6. Yet more people play 1.6 casually and competitively. Why? cause source sucked ass. Same fate lies with Dota 2.

By the time Valve butchers the game in attempts bring in more profit you guys will see what having a big time company in charge of a niche game will do.*

This same thing happened to a mmorpg called Vanguard. Beautiful concepts and was being made by the same creator as Ever-quest...Well due to budget constraints he had to sale out SoE to provide funding. Well, This move completely* ruined the game as SoE made him change many things to cater to profiteering.

Im sure this has happened many times in the past.

Enjoy your watered down piece of crap that Valve will produce. So nieve!
Maybe, but at least it won't be affected by downtime 4 times a week.

P.S.: It's Naive, not nieve, that means snow in Spanish.

[Judderman_]

You must pick one game to play for the rest of your life and call every other game in that genre terrible .

Oh wait you dont have to do that.

[MrDouchebag]

It will be full of newbs cuz it will be on steam and people will wonder and click it and think ohh thats a cool game and buy it so the half of the players will be new so enjoy a game full of retards will take 6 months 'til it will be playable

[aeowulf]

Valve is completely overrated, but they float by on goodwill because they hire on people that make interesting game concepts.

Half-life is a generic shooter with good graphics and a boring twilight zone plot. Gordon Freeman is a mute, and headcrabs are more annoying than the mosquito monsters in the first level of Daikatana.

[m0ntyyy]

Css was nice wtf.. was a pro surfer :P

xdream forever <3

lewis if some1 remembers me hahaha.

[Aql]

I think we need more baseless facts in this concoction for the discussion to really work...

Valve has really given us nothing on dota2 and yet there are hundreds of these threads with people spewing random information :/

It will be awesome!
It will suck ass!

Gosh darnit

[eNdscape]

just saying, cs:s >>>> 1.6 in every aspect. Just because aiming is more realistic(thus, slightly easier) than the fkn tetris-shoot-through-1meterWalls 1.6 doesn't mean that every1 has pro aiming. Get your facts right. Now i'm gonna go play css and remind myself of the good-old pwning days since hon has a downtime.

[Koman]

What Blizzard game was a disappointment?

[Kazamy]

FACT: your post sucks

[Transfat]

Maybe, but at least it won't be affected by downtime 4 times a week.

P.S.: It's Naive, not nieve, that means snow in Spanish.

"So nieve"

That's awesome.

[MrBlack]

I think you're getting confused between fact and speculation.

[`vexxes]

You should learn what a fact is before attempting to make one.

[evotech]

The grass is always greener onthe other side of the fence. People will never be happy.

These are some facts of life

[NEMESIS379]

FACT: You are talking smack

[AliasRaegiru]

"So nieve"

That's awesome.

It's not awesome at all.

You're probably one of those weird 15 year old hipsters that accepts any weird-sounding slang term as "cool."

In fact you'd probably sound like a dumbass saying that outside of your little niche of prepubescent kids.

So please, if you're wrong take it like a man instead of frivolously throwing around words thinking that's cool, because it's not.

[APKRage]

I understand what OP was trying to say with the css 1.6 thing but saying that also means that HoN and LoL are failures aswell because people still play DotA.

[Destructere]

Css was nice wtf.. was a pro surfer :P

xdream forever <3

lewis if some1 remembers me hahaha.

Haha, lool! Think i remember you actually! ;-D

Used to play surf_greatriver ALOT! Ahh, those were great times! Owning noobs with my shotgun while surfing! :D

Think i was in a clan called Envy or something, but that is some years ago :P

[Vollidiot]

Don't know what you think, but I don't want to play such a game like HoN nowadays, when u never know, if your stats have been recorded or not... Most time my loses are recorded, but think that is just badluck.

I also think that DotA 2 will be better, because the servers nearly never crash and u have a chance to play the game, even if it is worse, it will be playable.

[MADDAFLENG]

Dude, you have no reason to believe dota 2 will suck.

Comparing with other games makes no sence.

L2P dota2 will be awesome compared to this piece of crap game

[Truemas]

Dota 2 just has one interesting thing: That they focus on keeping the game griever- and rager-free with some bonus point systems, which makes it more enjoyable for players without 2 years + of dota background ( like me ). But in the end i dont want to learn 100+ new heroes skills, i barely manage HoN right now. =P

[EndlessDark]

Hon was supposed to be fun, instead everyday we get kicked by s2.

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[SandMonkey]

how does everyone on this game manage to not take any blame and proceed to play guilt free best player ever regardless of psr

1300 psr tough guys with 1000+ games played are my fav

[TOOL`]

You all know that Valve is even more greedy than S2, do you?

who cares? they made half life 1 & 2.

THEY. ARE. GODS.

[SmashNess]

Fan boys gonna find excuses to convince people their hoN super game will prevail.

Just wait to see what's gonna happen, stop being little kids.

[stat1ck_]

How exactly did Cs:s "suck ass"?

Almost no one left counter-strike to play counter-strike:source. Personaly ME is a great example , never liked cs:s and will never play it.. CS for evah.

[Ranaki]

Dota2 will suck for several reasons:

1)
I heard it might become free. Whats wrong about free:

Lots of trolls, smurfs and the leaver protection will become a joke.
It will most likely have a cash shop, and be probably like LoL.

Free heroes to play this week: Lycan
Play exclusive Pudge for a month for just 10$

2)
Valve hasn't cared to make advertisement or anything else than announcing dota2. Which means that they probably don't put high recourses on it.

3)
Dota2 wont probably be updated every Friday like HoN.

4)
Dota2 will be exactly like dota. Means that dota2 most likely won't be as good as dota. Especially if it becomes free, it will be the exact same thing with better graphics and probably more bugs.

People are having too high expectations for it. It will be fun to see them crying all over the web how Valve ruined such a good game.

I will try the game, but I don't have any expectations for it at all. I believe it will become a pile of ****. Especially if it's f2p

[MrBlazeAlot]

you don't know that fo sho mate, plus s2 haven't done anything good recently either

[Skyve]

1)
I heard it might become free. Whats wrong about free:

Lots of trolls, smurfs and the leaver protection will become a joke.

And in HoN, there are no trolls?

[OGankster]

You sir don't know what ''Fact'' means.