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mojakoy
10-09-2009, 03:50 AM
Will Shaman's Storm Cloud stack with Shieldbreaker? I'm currently exploring a battle shaman who can 1v1 any hero. :)

Desirable
10-09-2009, 03:51 AM
Yes it will. :)
Negative armor stacks.

mojakoy
10-09-2009, 04:04 AM
Perfect. Thanks! :)

Shield breaker isn't an attack modifier is it? Will frost stack with it?

mojakoy
10-09-2009, 04:08 AM
Checked the description, both are attack modifiers... too bad it won't stack.

Desirable
10-09-2009, 04:30 AM
Shield breaker isn't an attack modifier is it? Will frost stack with it?
Shieldbreaker and Frostwolf Skull are exclusive attack modifiers. They both would not stack with each other.

k1desu
10-09-2009, 06:01 AM
Checked the description, both are attack modifiers... too bad it won't stack.

well, as i experienced in some games now, its possible to use several attack modifiers.

you can roll a skadi on a magebane and still have mana combustion working.
add a brutalizer and youre fine

Desirable
10-09-2009, 06:18 AM
Shieldbreaker and Frostwolf Skull are exclusive attack modifiers. They both would not stack with each other.
For emphasis.

Frostwolf Skull/Shieldbreaker can stack with lifesteal and/or mana combustion modifiers though.

ChaosXan
10-09-2009, 07:11 AM
Don't forget it also stacks with Daemonic Breastplate aura for even more negative armor.

Zolfix
10-09-2009, 11:58 AM
Please do not get shieldbreaker on shaman unless it is very late game and you already have at least a hellflower for attack speed (plus support items of course).

DenyTheTruth
10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Please test in practice mode before you give out answers. This is a place for facts.

Also, play with a pestilence for additional armor reduction.

kuroYMT
10-09-2009, 01:42 PM
That's not the way to play him. You must play him as a babysitter, support to best utilize this hero's skillset. HoN is not a 1v1 game. Use your time more wisely.

Wafflesans
10-10-2009, 01:48 PM
Battle Shaman is quite an effective play style for the hero IF you know how to do it. I have carried plenty of games with Demented going shieldbreaker/Breastplate. I've nicknamed it the antichrist of armor build.

crayze
10-10-2009, 06:51 PM
Battle Shaman is quite an effective play style for the hero IF you know how to do it. I have carried plenty of games with Demented going shieldbreaker/Breastplate. I've nicknamed it the antichrist of armor build.

Perhaps, but it isn't as effective as going Kuldra + Hellflower first.

Shadowcamsy
10-11-2009, 03:19 AM
Pestilence/Demented Shaman/Panda/Armadon/Predator with Sb/Daemonic Breastplate = -15-30-8-6-12 -6-5 = -82 armor max. Wow that would hurt.

_Archangel_
10-11-2009, 03:36 AM
I prefer Astrolabe as a core item, then Kuldra. But Shieldbreaker works in pubs xD

rhave
10-11-2009, 03:41 AM
hellflower is good too

Nigma
10-11-2009, 09:39 AM
Don't forget that negative armor suffers diminishing returns :P

DenyTheTruth
10-11-2009, 10:22 AM
Don't forget that negative armor suffers diminishing returns :P

This has been discussed several times. Let's not discuss that here.

flphi
10-12-2009, 11:16 AM
Pestilence/Demented Shaman/Panda/Armadon/Predator with Sb/Daemonic Breastplate = -15-30-8-6-12 -6-5 = -82 armor max. Wow that would hurt.

shieldbreakers stack dont they?

IcyPhoenix
10-12-2009, 12:50 PM
Negative armor is capped somewhere around -30, even if you achieve -60 armor it wont due anything more than what it is capped at.