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Idejder
07-07-2011, 06:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gvr7l.png


Download links:
Windows: http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/HoNClient-2.0.38.exe
Version 2.0.38
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- Fixed hitting S or H while connecting to a server causing the game to never load
- Updated text when disconnecting from Matchmaking to be more clear
- Fixed players respawning attached to projectiles when Gore Taunted when "no respawn timers" is set
- Fixed custom account icons counting as modified files for the purposes of Tournament Rules
- Fixed exploit with Rampage and Blood Hunter reveal gadgets
- Fixes to Emerald Warden bugs with Nullstone and Magic Immunity
- Nullstone effects tweaked

- Added new Alt Avatar: Phantom Defiler

- Added new Alt Courier: Rat Courier

== Items ==

- :AlchemistBones: Alchemist's Bones cooldown/timer increased by 20 seconds

- :Astrolabe: Astrolabe
* Reworked Components
* Fortified Bracer (510)
* Refreshing Ornament (603)
* Astrolabe Recipe (600)
* Total Cost: 1713
* Effects
* +8 Strength, +5 Agility, +5 Intelligence
* +3 Health Regen aura
* On use: Heals nearby allies for 200 Health. 100 Mana cost, 45 second cd
* A hero/unit can still only be healed once every 25 seconds

- :goldenshield: Energizer
* Components
* Soulscream Ring (460)
* Major Totem (540)
* Energizer Recipe (700)
* Total Cost: 1700
* Effects
* +7 Strength, +10 Agility, +7 Intelligence
* On use: Nearby allies gain 50 Movement Speed and Unitwalking for 5 seconds. 100 Mana cost, 45 second cd

- :RingOfSorcery: Ring of Sorcery
* Reworked Components
* Amulet of Exile (485)
* Pickled Brain (900)
* Auto combines
* Total Cost: 1385
* Effects
* +300 Mana, +3 Strength, +3 Agility, +6 Intelligence
* On use: Nearby allies gain 135 Mana. 25 Mana cost, 33 second cd

- :Shieldbreaker: Shieldbreaker
* Rework
* Warhammer (1600)
* Shieldbreaker Recipe (900)
* Total Cost: 2500 / 3400 / 4300
* Effects
* +30 / 45 / 60 Damage
* -2 / -4 / -6 Armor debuff on target

Thank you to the mods for coloring and Sye for picture!

RoterBaron
07-08-2011, 09:01 AM
Cooool ;D PHANTOM :D

EaD
07-08-2011, 09:01 AM
**** you guys are fast. :D

MfG EaD

Shimigani
07-08-2011, 09:02 AM
4char epic rework

See_Ya
07-08-2011, 09:02 AM
whose face is this at the starting of the thread????????

Kvx
07-08-2011, 09:02 AM
Haven't read them yet

TDA101
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
Shieldbreaker~!

Broodje
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
Hello!

Yukari
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
There goes all the "first"

Also phantom defiler is awesome.

SkillBlade
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
funfunfunfun

Valran
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
Yay for Shieldbreaker. Awesum.

_Scars_
07-08-2011, 09:03 AM
new item?

first page

Mentlegen93
07-08-2011, 09:04 AM
Awesome! And awesome new item!

Zpredator
07-08-2011, 09:04 AM
You forgot to patch in the EW alt again!

Dacko
07-08-2011, 09:04 AM
Wtf! I was first the they deleted my post!

Repugnance
07-08-2011, 09:04 AM
energizer bunny

sqnk
07-08-2011, 09:05 AM
-Energizer !!

Octavia
07-08-2011, 09:05 AM
Interesting, though I'm a bit weary of the "Energizer"

qazqazqaz
07-08-2011, 09:05 AM
Omg preorder item! Golden shield!

Targuil
07-08-2011, 09:05 AM
Dat shieldbreaker.

SmackTrick
07-08-2011, 09:05 AM
I hate the new astrolabe without armor : (

Birdiebird
07-08-2011, 09:06 AM
Nice; too bad you forgot to add the alt avatar to the store, though.

Mazinkaiser
07-08-2011, 09:06 AM
:eek: :eek: NEW ITEM :eek: :eek:

Kasumi
07-08-2011, 09:07 AM
OMG nice changes on itens, this boost ALOT heros now XD

Elewa`
07-08-2011, 09:07 AM
cant see defiler on the shop ??????????

`Age
07-08-2011, 09:07 AM
wheres my defiler

Toad
07-08-2011, 09:08 AM
Interesting new item though i cant see it being too useful or even picked up much at all..

Fraggy
07-08-2011, 09:08 AM
second

Dacko
07-08-2011, 09:08 AM
That's a nerf on Shieldbreaker... 200g more.

It's not like Savage was already the better choice in every situation.

Seven111
07-08-2011, 09:08 AM
Finally bracers build into something :D

Ripoff
07-08-2011, 09:09 AM
Nice, items.. =))) <3

Accolades`
07-08-2011, 09:10 AM
That's a nerf on Shieldbreaker... 200g more.

It's not like Savage was already the better choice in every situation.

isn't it 100g less? i coulda sworn shieldbreaker was 4400 before

LoveBigButts
07-08-2011, 09:11 AM
That's a nerf on Shieldbreaker... 200g more.

It's not like Savage was already the better choice in every situation.

Its 100g cheaper

NaNNy`
07-08-2011, 09:11 AM
I can't see alt avatar in the store neither the new items in the shop

Work4TheMan
07-08-2011, 09:12 AM
Great patch.

no new announcer.
sad :pand:

stat1ck_
07-08-2011, 09:12 AM
errors with the shop , no new courier , no new avatar.

Zwan
07-08-2011, 09:13 AM
Looks awesome! nice rework and nice with a new item!!!

Pebbles
07-08-2011, 09:14 AM
fu retard was editing it... stupid ****

EDIT:
DIE TO CANCER FAG
Someone begs for an infraction, like three times!

Great patch, made me smile! :D

Reldnahc
07-08-2011, 09:15 AM
Omg a support item for agi heroes :andr::slit:

Gothicer
07-08-2011, 09:16 AM
Not too sure about the Energizer thing. Sounds like something that's going to be -really- annoying. The rest seems pretty nice, though.

Also lol at people getting butt mad over having their first posts removed.

Puff
07-08-2011, 09:17 AM
Energizer on Andromeda FTW

Haunting
07-08-2011, 09:17 AM
past 3 patches have required me to manually download the new client, before that it updated completely fine and now I get regular K2 errors. Over a year without problems now this. **** sucks yo.

Arch3type
07-08-2011, 09:18 AM
gj removing first post **** also nice patch.

Seven111
07-08-2011, 09:19 AM
So energizer is like a team ghost marchers?

Skyve
07-08-2011, 09:20 AM
Awesome!

Now if you please could also give Void Talisman some love, like I suggested in the thread here:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=294643

I'd be incredibly happy!

BrighTide
07-08-2011, 09:20 AM
Epic Stuff, love the stat item integrations

Sheil
07-08-2011, 09:21 AM
past 3 patches have required me to manually download the new client, before that it updated completely fine and now I get regular K2 errors. Over a year without problems now this. **** sucks yo.
Start game in Windows 95 capability mode.
Patch it and then log off and start again in normal mode.


About patch, i still cant find defiler alt, whats going on?

TehPwnr
07-08-2011, 09:21 AM
Am I the only one who noticed "Arcane Ring?"

Mom_Slayer
07-08-2011, 09:21 AM
guys wtf rong with hon... i cant get new patch,when i try to download it crash comes out..!! ><! what to doo?

DreadLocks
07-08-2011, 09:22 AM
Cool. like the reworks.
Assuming the new alt avatar is pretty beast.

Ashlan
07-08-2011, 09:22 AM
the patch look great but i cant download the ****ing patch and i am just getting mad now, everytime there is a new patch i need to wait and download it manually again and again i am getting tired of this....

BelladHoNna
07-08-2011, 09:24 AM
Where's my Emerald Warden symbol? Ò_Ó

Haunting
07-08-2011, 09:25 AM
Start game in Windows 95 capability mode.
Patch it and then log off and start again in normal mode.


About patch, i still cant find defiler alt, whats going on?

Thanks. Worked.

Yinn
07-08-2011, 09:25 AM
Nice idea for the basic stat items to be more viable now.

Energizer sounds pretty strong

DGen
07-08-2011, 09:26 AM
Arcane Ring? Isn't it Ring of Sorcery? :S It is listed after Energizer as well... Must be a blunder :p

Arch3type
07-08-2011, 09:28 AM
why the **** cant i use shop anymore ,??

Yinn
07-08-2011, 09:30 AM
btw can please someone post a pic of the alt skin defiler??

it's some time till i get home today :-/

IsaacPEWton
07-08-2011, 09:31 AM
New item yay!

DrFappo
07-08-2011, 09:32 AM
Where's the rat alt courier?

Ragels
07-08-2011, 09:32 AM
Awesome! Uses for Ring/Amulet/Bracer, and Shieldbreaker potentially being an actual alternative to Savage Mace.

NubbyMcNub
07-08-2011, 09:34 AM
ZOMG you mean I actually have to talk to my team now?

SoGuH
07-08-2011, 09:34 AM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2952/crashreport.jpg

What the ****? I can't update! O.O

Mendrane
07-08-2011, 09:34 AM
Arcane Ring trolololol S2. This is not DotA. This is HoN. Know your own game maybe? It is called Ring of Sorcery :P

Minhq604
07-08-2011, 09:36 AM
vigilante vindi alt avatar? where

HatParty
07-08-2011, 09:37 AM
W00t phantom defiler costs silver coins!
this is awesome :D just gonna wait for someone to buy it so i can check it ingame :O

zkyz`
07-08-2011, 09:38 AM
can i have a refund please. This defiler is the worst thing i've ever seen.:defi:

Dordanov
07-08-2011, 09:39 AM
Awesome going mods! Please keep deleting the posts by retarded people that only want to exclaim first. And no, posting bullshit first and then editing it doesn't make you cool, so I'm glad mods are deleting that filth from the forums.

Having said that, time to get back ontopic.
Pretty cool to see some item additions and changes. Although there are still some heroes that need the nerfbat (*cough* Amun-Ra *cough*) or some loving, like Balphagore and Dampeer, I'm sure those changes will eventually be made.

But i'm not totally sure what exactly got changed to Astrolabe for example. Would it be possible to list the old stats as well, so we could easily see what numbers are changed/removed?

dreta
07-08-2011, 09:39 AM
yay, can u now make codex recipe same as dagon

`Caesar`
07-08-2011, 09:39 AM
im crashing in the middle of the update .... help

travel
07-08-2011, 09:40 AM
massive item buffs for casuals? Checkmate

Nuvis
07-08-2011, 09:44 AM
Where is the new avatar? ... Bug?

StrikePro
07-08-2011, 09:46 AM
The new patch made me so i cant get up the shop or press H and Q W E R and some more.. help me..

BoBo
07-08-2011, 09:49 AM
nice patch but i cant use the hotkeys for the shop and spell after this patch

SeriousCat
07-08-2011, 09:54 AM
Interesting Shieldbreaker rework...

Mr_Rogers
07-08-2011, 09:54 AM
lets count our blessings, at least we didn't get another hero "engineered", hopefully this starts a new trend of s2

mowlworph
07-08-2011, 09:57 AM
gj i cant play any games.. all the time i got : no response !! and i´m the only one who got this.. thanks 4 this patch ..

GhettoJesus
07-08-2011, 09:59 AM
haha awesome changes. Actually allowing the stat bracers being used for reciepe's a good one.


Also now idiots won't cuss when I rush astrolobe on ra.

Skyve
07-08-2011, 10:04 AM
gj i cant play any games.. all the time i got : no response !! and i´m the only one who got this.. thanks 4 this patch ..

Actually, you are not alone - I was just in a game, and everybody horribly lagged, most of them couldn't even write anything.

gravestorm
07-08-2011, 10:04 AM
new item feels like weaker copy of dota drums. and that sucks(
astro ring and shieldbraker rework is damn good

martenspus
07-08-2011, 10:05 AM
Is it only me, or did melee carries get a significant change in overall usability due to the removal of astrolabe's HUGE armor? The shieldbreaker rework seems to further extend this buff.

Uthere
07-08-2011, 10:07 AM
Nice, I love you S2 for making Savage 2 !

Testingrani
07-08-2011, 10:08 AM
Hope S2 helps in easing the learning curve of HoN by not adding too many items and removing redundant ones.

Shad0wCutter
07-08-2011, 10:10 AM
past 3 patches have required me to manually download the new client, before that it updated completely fine and now I get regular K2 errors. Over a year without problems now this. **** sucks yo.
This

RaViJ
07-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Interesting new item though i cant see it being too useful or even picked up much at all..

:balp:

Tommo
07-08-2011, 10:16 AM
Already bought the defiler skin xD.

mufasa
07-08-2011, 10:20 AM
Bought the rat courier but couldn't use it in game. It said it was purchased and all that but skin wasn't changed when I pressed it.

And yes it was my courier and not locked.

mowlworph
07-08-2011, 10:23 AM
where i can download ONLY the new patch.. it do not work....

Noktok
07-08-2011, 10:25 AM
Good job. Since 2.0.20 I believe, I havn't been able to patch. Everytime I want to patch, I need to uninstall HoN and install HoN again from HoN website (since the new patch is included).

I've tried the Windows 95 backdoor (it has only worked once. Gj), I've tried Hon_update.exe (doesn't work either). I'm getting tired of this.

And the important thing - I'm not lonely about this problem.

So good job, making a patch, which you can't update too.

PS.
And to all of you who can update, congratulations.
DS.

GLun
07-08-2011, 10:35 AM
inb4 Energizer op

Wolffmother
07-08-2011, 10:36 AM
noob question...can't remember what the old armor debuff was for shiledbreaker before this patch, is it any different now? Thanks

Suntax
07-08-2011, 10:37 AM
Im getting an error when im trying to install patch that says :

Error updating file: ./k2.dll

Any adice?

Theburned
07-08-2011, 10:42 AM
Energizer on Andromeda FTW

the sad thing is that tablet of command overshadows it.
Utility usefulness, and well 2 less agi won't kill you

Otherwise great changed to astrolabe, can see this as a quite huge buff to soulreaper.

Theburned
07-08-2011, 10:46 AM
Im getting an error when im trying to install patch that says :

Error updating file: ./k2.dll

Any adice?

reinstalling

Theburned
07-08-2011, 10:47 AM
noob question...can't remember what the old armor debuff was for shiledbreaker before this patch, is it any different now? Thanks

the lvl 3 shield breaker is the same as the old one, just that it scales better from when you start getting the item

Squallz
07-08-2011, 10:51 AM
...gg
now there is no reason to ever build shield of five

i would always build it vs dw/arma early on and turn it into astro later on but now .....

RollTheDice
07-08-2011, 10:56 AM
energizer stacked with ghost marchers? Holy fastness!

Suntax
07-08-2011, 11:02 AM
reinstalling

im trying now, but now i cant even install that file.

SoulBroker
07-08-2011, 11:03 AM
alt vidi show cost 420
but when i purchased i lost 560
:(

NINJ4P4ND4
07-08-2011, 11:10 AM
Patch will not install on my computer either.

OMGfriedbacn
07-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Nullstone effects tweaked

what does this actually mean? pls some1 explain this, english isnt my motherlanguage

Stitches
07-08-2011, 11:17 AM
thx kingraven 4 bones fix

smeski
07-08-2011, 11:21 AM
Why change shieldbreaker, and who the **** plays defiler anyway.

Becajin
07-08-2011, 11:27 AM
what does this actually mean? pls some1 explain this, english isnt my motherlanguage
It means the graphical effect of the nullstone is different, means you can see a blue aura around the hero if its not on cooldown.


Im not so keen on the itemchanges, it pretty much means armor is harder to get now. the only early armor items left are plated greaves and ring of the teacher... maybe they should introduce a new armoritem as well..
otherwise good stuff.

TheVeronicas
07-08-2011, 11:30 AM
what does this actually mean? pls some1 explain this, english isnt my motherlanguage

tweak=change, fix

KingReaper
07-08-2011, 11:31 AM
inb4 imba ophelia

Wolffmother
07-08-2011, 11:36 AM
the lvl 3 shield breaker is the same as the old one, just that it scales better from when you start getting the item


kk that's what I was thinking but wasn't sure, thanks!!

Hoee
07-08-2011, 11:40 AM
Hi, please have someone same problems? I tryed instal new patch in game, but it didn't started game after isntall and when i started it manualy it was again on earlier patch.. I tryed to download full client with this new patch and when i installed it and tryed start it, i saw just some error and nothing happend. That error is smthn about bad configuration... Thx for any response..

`Gorre
07-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Phantom defiler not premium only?
Somebody is getting fired as we speak..

MABManZ
07-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Sweet, upgradeable shieldbreaker!

CrashBashL
07-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Haven't read them yet

EPIC !!

PepeChok
07-08-2011, 11:52 AM
amazing patch guys !! really great

Skyve
07-08-2011, 11:52 AM
Hm... I kinda wish Ring of Sorcery and Astrolabe would have their ToEx and Bracers swapped.

odieshyu
07-08-2011, 12:00 PM
Greetingssss I come in peace! Violence is no longer in my nature.. But if you want it, you got it sister!

Guardian_
07-08-2011, 12:10 PM
upgradeable shieldbreaker , Thats nice but, i cant use shop.And q w e r Too . What should i do ?

xJoe
07-08-2011, 12:16 PM
Could you PLSSSS make Corrupted Disciple alt skin next?
something like the Lightning Reverant if alowed <3 :corr:

Nakeddan
07-08-2011, 12:16 PM
S2 WTF Dudes! Everytime a new patch comes out now I have to reinstall in the game cause the patch crashes everytime i download and install it? I mean really what is the problem?

Haunting
07-08-2011, 12:29 PM
S2 WTF Dudes! Everytime a new patch comes out now I have to reinstall in the game cause the patch crashes everytime i download and install it? I mean really what is the problem?

I had this problem, somebody suggested earlier in the thread to launch the game with windows 95 compatibility to update the game and it worked. However games were taking a long time to load and it'd lag every time I opened the shop. I uninstalled the game and now I'm unable to re-install it for some reason, keep getting error messages.

Anybody help?

TheBigBig
07-08-2011, 12:32 PM
I approve of this patch. Absolutely love the item changes

Diablo``
07-08-2011, 12:33 PM
energizer looks shitty, tablet >>>>>>>>>>>
better stats, 2.5 times lower cd, less mana costs and quite better active (especially cause of disrupting channelings)
and costs only 300 gold more

little buff to shieldbreaker but imo it still won't get bought often

ring of sorcery ****ed up imo, more expensive and worse stats

astrolabe a little bit buffed (even though the missing armor hurts), especially because hard supports can get it some minutes earlier since it's 600 gold cheaper now

alch nerf is good aswell

supah
07-08-2011, 12:49 PM
whats up with my shop? I downloaded this new patch, and i cant open shop. gj s2

inairgesture
07-08-2011, 12:50 PM
Where are the patches for OS X and Linux? On OS X, the game asks if I want it to patch itself, but then nothing happens after I approve. The first posting in this thread only links to a Windows binary which leads me to believe you didn't publish the patch for all platforms yet? If so, why not just wait with the Windows patch until all are finished?

Thanks.

Irsic
07-08-2011, 12:56 PM
100 mana cost on Energizer. Yeeeeeah.

Guardian_
07-08-2011, 12:59 PM
Why i cant use shop ? Anybody help ? god sake.

bloodfighter
07-08-2011, 01:00 PM
i have not see they new on this game, but i think its cool.:-)

Yurixy
07-08-2011, 01:01 PM
interesting changes

Okaboka
07-08-2011, 01:23 PM
i really dont like astrolabe change... shield of the five is now a useless item unless you build plated greaves.

EnjoiDank
07-08-2011, 01:35 PM
buff to the pushing team? as well as cool defiler alt (pushing hero) and a rat(goes with defiler).
seems lk this patch was planned out nicely

Epidemilk
07-08-2011, 01:41 PM
gasp, 3/3/6 items no longer completely useless!

Cord
07-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Could you PLSSSS make Corrupted Disciple alt skin next?
something like the Lightning Reverant if alowed <3 :corr:

It'll be allowed with boobs.

it
07-08-2011, 01:52 PM
Awesome how the shop is now broken. Can't even open it by clicking the shop, or by pressing B.

man_guy
07-08-2011, 01:57 PM
Ew @ those recipe changes. Couldn't you just make new intro level support items instead?

Rikomi
07-08-2011, 01:59 PM
ring of sorcery is so easy to get now.. excellent.

Aterian
07-08-2011, 02:06 PM
I like having a use for the crown+stat items, but don't like removing +armor from astrolabe. Maybe add a new item of similar cost that uses shield of the five, so there's once again an early armor item besides plated greaves?

TheKnight
07-08-2011, 02:12 PM
For god sake show some professional effort and update the items page

Nspire
07-08-2011, 02:18 PM
stop using mods if you want the shop to work

CHRONOS_LOL
07-08-2011, 02:20 PM
I really think Energizer should work more like steamboots, meaning that you should be able to buy Fortified Bracer or Amulet of Exile also, instead of just Soulscream Ring. Would make it more viable on support/semi-carrys that are not agi

TwinTech
07-08-2011, 02:45 PM
I want to start off with some positive stuff:
Alt avatars

Negative:
Everything else

Stop ruining a perfectly nice game by making it easier/ more retarded.

Yours sincerely :blac:

akalestos
07-08-2011, 03:05 PM
every time a new patch after 2.36 i get crash repport and i must download all the exe(500+mb) from the start!..wtf..fix it pls im not the only one!

ChimeraTX
07-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Btw, the new courier only shows up in the shop's front page, not in the couriers section.

Chaos0
07-08-2011, 03:16 PM
They removed armor from two common support items... interesting.

skixO
07-08-2011, 03:18 PM
Just after some clarity;

Why do you suggest " Vigilante Vindicator" on your front page as a new alt avatar? Has something changed with him?

Tried to paste image, but you use sprites, annoying ;P

ChimeraTX
07-08-2011, 03:30 PM
Just after some clarity;

Why do you suggest " Vigilante Vindicator" on your front page as a new alt avatar? Has something changed with him?

Tried to paste image, but you use sprites, annoying ;P

He's 25% off. Yeah, the front page picture should be more precise.

Sordak
07-08-2011, 03:41 PM
shieldbreaker! pesti aproves!

Decency
07-08-2011, 04:14 PM
Solid patch guys, gj. =)

I'm curious if the math was done between Riftshards and Shieldbreaker, I can't see any way that the latter could win unless huge amounts of ally damage is taken into account.

Also, Energizer should disjoint, people have been asking for an item with that functionality forever. 0.1 seconds of invulnerability would be pretty awesome, too. =D

gambler
07-08-2011, 04:20 PM
shieldbreaker! pesti aproves!

Why anyone would get a shieldbreaker on pest. This new change was to get Shieldbreaker earlier; Pest needs pk and bkb before anything else.

Mulberry
07-08-2011, 04:42 PM
Phantom Defiler is AMAZING. Nice work S2! FREAKING LOVE MY Lucksmith and new defiler!

Omega
07-08-2011, 04:59 PM
That's a nerf on Shieldbreaker... 200g more.

It's not like Savage was already the better choice in every situation.

It is not.

Old one:

Warhammer x 2 = 3200
Recipe = 1200

3200 + 1200 = 4400

New one:

Warhammer = 1600
Recipe = 900/900/900

1600 + 2700 = 4300

100 Cheaper. Additionally, significantly better buildup.

KeepStay
07-08-2011, 05:05 PM
how to fix no-shop issue?

BoBar
07-08-2011, 05:15 PM
how to fix no-shop issue?
Its probably happening because of your mods, so disable/update/reapply them. :)

Cord
07-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Why anyone would get a shieldbreaker on pest. This new change was to get Shieldbreaker earlier; Pest needs pk and bkb before anything else.

Well...you could always get it later, I suppose.

Really, though, I hope this turns out to be a stealth panda buff.

tobiaslv
07-08-2011, 05:35 PM
awesome rework ,still hope to see other not relesed country flags.

mrcool211
07-08-2011, 05:46 PM
Something is wrong with my HoN when the match has started, I cant take up my shop// plz help me :)

valkirian_18
07-08-2011, 06:09 PM
In what concerns the patch, I whink I'll enjoy these changes! =)
Good Job S2!

Now, I'm having the same problem as you [uNub]mrcool211 (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/member.php?u=3248053)!
Even in practice mode!

In fact, my problem seems to be a bit worst than yours, cause i can't even use my keyboard shortcuts to cast my habilities!

BTW, Im playing on a macbook (nevertheless i have always played fine, until now)

Best regards,

`Lucky``
07-08-2011, 06:37 PM
excellent shield breaker rework , there should be more damage items that can be built like this.

iScratch
07-08-2011, 06:46 PM
Last two patches I've had the 'K2 Exception' crashes without any details... Not sure why the in-game auto patcher isn't working and have to download a 550MB file each time.... I've seen many others bring up the same issue as well. Maybe this could be looked into please?

Tucker_
07-08-2011, 07:21 PM
Energizer will either be really really good, where every team will have to get one for team fights. Or really bad and never picked up.

MacroHard
07-08-2011, 07:28 PM
They removed armor from two common support items... interesting.

Ya. Hardcore supporters are going to be even more paper now, especially if shieldbreaker becomes more common with its new smooth buildup.

Astrolabe: +5 armor + 50 AOE heal + AOE armor > +3 str + 593 gold
RoS: +2 armor + 90 gold > +3 str

Both nerfs in my opinion.

Armor is one of the most underrated parts of HoN. I suspect fewer than 5% of players fully understand EHP.

MacroHard
07-08-2011, 07:41 PM
Energizer will either be really really good, where every team will have to get one for team fights. Or really bad and never picked up.

Wow. Really sticking your neck out, going out on a limb, and taking a hard stance aren't we?

I think that it will be purchased very frequently at low levels at first because of the novelty, then drop off in usage entirely because:

1240 gold (beyond SSR) - agi heroes generally cannot waste 1240 gold on 4 stats and a crap ability
100 mana - ridiculous
45 sec cooldown - ridiculous
50 movespeed for 5 seconds - THIS IS ONLY A 250 DISTANCE BOOST

Energizer = boost over 5 seconds every 45 seconds for 100 mana that requires pathing that also helps nearby allies
Tablet of Command = boost instantly every 16 seconds for 25 mana that can also jump uphills and be used on distant allies or enemies as well as disjoint and cancel spells

This item is outstripped by ToC in every aspect.

Sancti
07-08-2011, 07:41 PM
I see what you did there!

http://www7.pic-upload.de/09.07.11/zhjmqg5vcpjj.gif

Safhir
07-08-2011, 07:46 PM
Love it

Gondar
07-08-2011, 08:03 PM
Wow. Really sticking your neck out, going out on a limb, and taking a hard stance aren't we?

I think that it will be purchased very frequently at low levels at first because of the novelty, then drop off in usage entirely because:

1240 gold (beyond SSR) - agi heroes generally cannot waste 1240 gold on 4 stats and a crap ability
100 mana - ridiculous
45 sec cooldown - ridiculous
50 movespeed for 5 seconds - THIS IS ONLY A 250 DISTANCE BOOST

Energizer = boost over 5 seconds every 45 seconds for 100 mana that requires pathing that also helps nearby allies
Tablet of Command = boost instantly every 16 seconds for 25 mana that can also jump uphills and be used on distant allies or enemies as well as disjoint and cancel spells

This item is outstripped by ToC in every aspect.

Well one will boost the whole team, the other 1 player

sexconker
07-08-2011, 08:06 PM
Energizer looks useless.
And y u gotta nerf my astrolabe? ****.

Mlcloud
07-08-2011, 08:13 PM
Early armor for supports just got hard to get.

IGaNkNuBz
07-08-2011, 08:20 PM
Wow. Really sticking your neck out, going out on a limb, and taking a hard stance aren't we?

I think that it will be purchased very frequently at low levels at first because of the novelty, then drop off in usage entirely because:

1240 gold (beyond SSR) - agi heroes generally cannot waste 1240 gold on 4 stats and a crap ability
100 mana - ridiculous
45 sec cooldown - ridiculous
50 movespeed for 5 seconds - THIS IS ONLY A 250 DISTANCE BOOST

Energizer = boost over 5 seconds every 45 seconds for 100 mana that requires pathing that also helps nearby allies
Tablet of Command = boost instantly every 16 seconds for 25 mana that can also jump uphills and be used on distant allies or enemies as well as disjoint and cancel spells

This item is outstripped by ToC in every aspect.

i totaly agree with you seems like a useless item BUT ....... CORE:ramp::ramp: hehe

purpleprince
07-08-2011, 08:38 PM
New patches. New patches everywhere. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FhJjzhAZEIw/TBl3gRRsoKI/AAAAAAAAB_c/HSd8dIZummA/s1600/toy_story_original_cine.png

Fors4keN
07-08-2011, 08:39 PM
leprecaun bs doesnt have a voice...... :(

YouNube
07-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Did they nerf OP new heroes or should i just keep staying away for a while???

haven't played this game since a long time...

Acinod
07-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Unless you have minions or have a dedicated team, Energizer seems to be a poor choice when you can get Ghost Marchers or Tablet of Command.

colondee
07-08-2011, 09:48 PM
Can you please change the categories where items are placed?
What is 'relics' supposed to mean anyway?

SkOgLuNd_
07-08-2011, 09:49 PM
Were can i talk to s2 sucking gaming!?!

SkOgLuNd_
07-08-2011, 09:49 PM
Remove that ****ing kiick thing people kickign for no reason stat manipulation and u never bann peopple

SkOgLuNd_
07-08-2011, 09:50 PM
CAN YOU JUST DO somethying about this game? we are actually paying for it
suckier gms u ahve to look for
DAMn

SkOgLuNd_
07-08-2011, 09:53 PM
removing my text? god just bann me forever and go do something u can do! s2 HHAHAHH what a joke

blank1
07-08-2011, 09:56 PM
every time i dl the patch it dl's all the way game starts the white dl bar then stops and says i crash...help?

Dark_Kratos
07-08-2011, 10:28 PM
wheres the new announcer :madm: ?

downz
07-08-2011, 10:39 PM
every time i dl the patch it dl's all the way game starts the white dl bar then stops and says i crash...help?

Yea im getting the same thing with patch 2.0.37 and now patch 2.0.38 can any help?

Fancy_Pantz
07-08-2011, 11:22 PM
Shield of Five no longer an useful item.

MaichinhT
07-09-2011, 02:08 AM
He's 25% off. Yeah, the front page picture should be more precise.

Are you ****ing kidding me? I bought him the day before the patch

/wrist

Vicx
07-09-2011, 03:33 AM
Yea im getting the same thing with patch 2.0.37 and now patch 2.0.38 can any help?
This, this, oh a thousand times this.

frenky85
07-09-2011, 04:24 AM
i nedd help i can download pach

frenky85
07-09-2011, 05:07 AM
k2expansion is a problem wat im too doing

TuGoCaN
07-09-2011, 05:30 AM
I have a new computer and when i installed HON 2.0.38 client it crashes after the S2Games screen

I tried every possible way but no result always creashes

I have Asus N53S Pc with W7 x86

Please help to solve this

Thank you

mrljudin
07-09-2011, 05:42 AM
every time you make a new patch, i have to reinstall game... how lovely.

ReadySetGo
07-09-2011, 05:59 AM
I thought that Energizer was a decent buff to melee carries. Pop it in teamfights, melee carry activates shrunken and can stay on target better with 50extra ms? Harder to kite someone with +50ms, and possibly ghost marchers activated as well.

Thou this might only seem good in theory, any thoughts?

SeriousCat
07-09-2011, 06:21 AM
i totaly agree with you seems like a useless item BUT ....... CORE:ramp::ramp: hehe

Rampage's mana pool is ridiculously low for this item.

bonquva1
07-09-2011, 07:08 AM
taught it was a new hero xD

letsgonow
07-09-2011, 07:48 AM
I have had crashes since the last patch. I re-downloaded HON and I have a new computer, too. Please help and fix this S2!

FaTaLbLaSt
07-09-2011, 08:24 AM
errors with the shop , no new courier , no new avatar.

And keeps crashing while updating.

FaTaLbLaSt
07-09-2011, 08:27 AM
Please fix the crash problems, it is kind of annoying to redownload the game for 10 MB patch and have to wait an hour.

Skyve
07-09-2011, 08:57 AM
Awesome how the shop is now broken. Can't even open it by clicking the shop, or by pressing B.

For all that I know, it has something to do with your addons, and not with HoN/S2.

hulcior
07-09-2011, 09:03 AM
I don't have any addons installed and I can't open shop too. :]

NFakeGodz
07-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Can't Download it When I Login In The Bottom Appear

Update Avaible
From 2.0.37 to 2.0.38
The I Press YES
Then I Wait....
Wait.....
Wait.....
Wait.....
Wait.....
THE DOWNLOAD NEVER START :warb::warb::warb::warb:
Please Some one Make A manual Patch
Coz I Ver LAZY To Download The Client :pand::pand::pand:
PLEASE HELP ME
:engi::engi::engi::engi:

MetaBrain
07-09-2011, 09:59 AM
I have a new computer and when i installed HON 2.0.38 client it crashes after the S2Games screen

I tried every possible way but no result always creashes

I have Asus N53S Pc with W7 x86

Please help to solve this

Thank you

I have the exact same PC and it's working fine.

Lucian01
07-09-2011, 10:19 AM
Good, we finally got the long awaited 'Manfiler' that we've been after.

QeNasiiC
07-09-2011, 12:24 PM
You say Nullstone's effects is tweaked, why and how? (No hate included)

Truemas
07-09-2011, 12:59 PM
Really good patch. I like how it works for supports to get an starting item like Fortified/Talisman/Soulscream and then upgrade it to an valuable teamfight item. It would maybe be great if i could do an energizer or Ring of Sorcery out of a Fortified as well, cause as an int you mostly want that extra HP as long as you carry the basicitem.

Emin3m
07-09-2011, 02:49 PM
Yay to Energizer : my new favorite items as a ganker :). Good rework on ShieldBreaker

MangoMoo
07-09-2011, 06:19 PM
my shop is completely gone ingame :/.... any help?

GrindMyLife
07-09-2011, 07:55 PM
im on a mac n when i try to instal the update it starts then goes black where is the manual install for the new patch in os x?:pebb::pebb::pebb: v 2.0.38

DashRandom
07-09-2011, 08:57 PM
Hey played 5 games with energizer and for 1700 gold having a aoe 50% ms increase is alright and if you get a slow on you its useless, so i think it should take off ms debuff when activated.... and u might be well thats op... having 50% ms incrase for 5 secs with a cd of 35 secs is crap when you get a debuff that screws it up. decrease the cd or give that item a ms debuff remover otherwise no one will pay 1700 for shitty support item

MasterPiss
07-09-2011, 10:16 PM
Interesting new item though i cant see it being too useful or even picked up much at all..

It's a Import from DOTA, an item called drums of war.
it's actually one of the core items in competition play lol.

Syaoran
07-10-2011, 08:28 AM
do you think support char will still go for astrolabe without the shield now?

Elm`o
07-10-2011, 08:30 AM
It's a Import from DOTA, an item called drums of war.
it's actually one of the core items in competition play lol.


Except the Jango is wayyyyyy better than this.

Anelya
07-10-2011, 09:45 AM
Le nice stuff!

VersionTwo
07-10-2011, 12:01 PM
WHY i cant BUY Items ?

strikermodel
07-10-2011, 12:28 PM
Interesting new item though i cant see it being too useful or even picked up much at all..
I'm pretty sure they're support items, as supports are usually the ones who pick up bracers anyway. (not sure about the soul scream ring item or the talisman one though). they basically made the ring of sorcery and astrolabe easier to build up on supports. the speed boost can be useful, but only in really organized teams.

samZzonite
07-10-2011, 04:54 PM
WHEN WILL I SEE A ELECTRICIAN AVATAR :elec:

Mustekala
07-10-2011, 05:17 PM
Server unable to authorize account
Fixed when?

philo
07-11-2011, 10:01 AM
can we pls get legendaryvalk again?

colondee
07-11-2011, 11:54 AM
nice, getting both astrolabe and plated greaves now makes sense
thinking of reworking my tremble guide
please rework energizer icon though

Belmondo
07-13-2011, 09:17 AM
are plated greaves even worth getting on anyone other than Balpha and Ophelia (two least played heroes lol)

Jankalor
07-13-2011, 09:20 AM
Nvm - Wrong Post

general_tao
07-13-2011, 06:13 PM
If you compare energiser with ancient jangoo of endurance in DotA, jangoo is WAY WAY better.

ENERGIZER

costs 1700

gives +7 to all stats, +3 agi

activation gives 50 ms and unitwalking
for 5 sec, 45 sec cd, 100 manacost

ANCIENT JANGOO OF ENDURANCE

costs 1750

gives +9 to all stats, + 10 dmg

activation gives 10%ms AND 10%AS
for 6 sec, 30 sec cd, no manacost, 4 charges

has a passive 5% ms and as aura



At least give energizer a passive movespeed aura effect. It is way to weak as it is right now. It definately needs a buff, but the idea is nice.

Fleder
07-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Ive got a problem here.

I want to Patch form 2.0.36 to 2.0.38. HoN is downloading the patch, but if it starts the patching process, HoN crashes. Everytime.

Can someone help me here?

iScratch
07-15-2011, 06:47 PM
Actually Ffleder, a lot of us have the exact same issue with no response in this thread if I am not mistaken... Maybe they made a thread specifically for it? Or they don't want to target this issue ?... New patch today.... same issue, crashes while trying to update. Fail, seriously, fail.

irishfro69
07-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Hey Does anyone know what the rework or the tweak to null stone was or what S2 did to it???

Misha_83
07-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Give the energizer a 3.5 outta 5. Needs more int for it to be viable. Right now, I get 93 exta mana from it - and it costs 100. Not worth it. You also need a slow to be able to make it work effecticvley.

GiGidy
07-17-2011, 07:30 AM
Tons of Bugs, laggy, cant join the server.
Pls fix it.

GiGidy
07-17-2011, 08:27 AM
delete the post huh?
the game is seriously lag n i cant rejoin the game.
and now my psr got fck.

Responsibility?

tired of this

inairgesture
07-17-2011, 03:51 PM
Where are the patches for OS X and Linux? On OS X, the game asks if I want it to patch itself, but then nothing happens after I approve. The first posting in this thread only links to a Windows binary which leads me to believe you didn't publish the patch for all platforms yet? If so, why not just wait with the Windows patch until all are finished?

Thanks.

Sorry, my fault. I was running HoN from a bad backup that I had previously created, in which the permissions were ****ed up, so the updater wasn't allowed to write into the App's directory. A quick `sudo chown -R myuser HoNFolder` fixed it.

That said, there should be some kind of popup or notification if the update can't be written to disk.

q`LiMAx
07-19-2011, 07:20 AM
hihi '-'

Mr_Endurance
07-19-2011, 07:29 AM
Hey do u know exactly what clock the hon tech guys are going by?? When is this maintenance thing going to be over...:@

SEVAR
07-19-2011, 07:48 AM
is it still 10$ for the account?

SEVAR
07-19-2011, 07:50 AM
plz extend account sales period...plz :) :D <3

Sti90
07-19-2011, 08:51 AM
Is it normal today, that if i try to log in allways a "Connection Error" appears?
Yesterday everything was allright. :S

Mr_Endurance
07-19-2011, 09:10 AM
yehh i know wtf is going onn...i just wanna play. I mean i played this morning and everything was sweet.went out for a bit came back and all this mumbo jumbo connection error **** starts going down..:@ when exactly will we play hon again?

MarkiiCr7
07-19-2011, 09:11 AM
this is ****king bull **** man im so bored my girlfriend wont put out all i have is this game please s2 ffs

JCD
07-19-2011, 10:06 AM
when update finish pliz?

Vanq
07-19-2011, 10:26 AM
İs it done ? İ still cant login ? An admin must inform us please.

GiGidy
07-19-2011, 10:33 AM
me too...its gonna be 20/7/11 already.
But nvm, hope the new patch fix it all.

Cheers..!!

GiGidy
07-19-2011, 10:36 AM
lol
my clock is 10:30 pm.
sorry tho.
anyway, hope its finish soon.

oXider
07-19-2011, 10:42 AM
Error, Error, Error! :-D Whn this is going to be fixed?

cravel
07-19-2011, 10:47 AM
My clock is 16:45 and i still dosent work? please inform us s2!

Slytt
07-19-2011, 10:48 AM
Srlsy you really do owe to atleast give us some information.... Im **** bored...

LittleCookie
07-19-2011, 10:56 AM
ETA 5 hours? Yea right, its just gone like 8-10 hours now, but hey! Its 5 hours

B0brian
07-19-2011, 10:57 AM
i need hon!!!

spookzii
07-19-2011, 10:57 AM
This is a joke....

spookzii
07-19-2011, 10:59 AM
Just thought as i was awake id enjoy a nice few hours of HoN before a busy night shift...

B0brian
07-19-2011, 10:59 AM
(am a DIVA!!!!!)

B0brian
07-19-2011, 11:01 AM
(am i DIVA!!!)

spookzii
07-19-2011, 11:04 AM
Feels i should yell "Chocolate Rain" .... lol

spookzii
07-19-2011, 11:06 AM
i know im gonna ask a stupid question 'n all but saw the emerald warden alt skin the other day... what was that about? did i miss a limited edition release?... gutted

GiGidy
07-19-2011, 01:27 PM
LOL
from my clock,
I've finish my work at 06:00pm 19/7/11
Now its 00:14am 20/7/11...
6 hour straight without any "information"
and that is a real pain

Trollin or not, but i think we had a right to know
what is going on

I came to this page by google, cant come directly from Hon site
or maybe u guys got a major problems?

Not that im going to yell at S2 sayin **** you
no im not
I...no, its "WE" really need to know sometin
better know that i cant play for today than wait all day

Pls guys
Just tell us that u got **** then im sure that all the players would cheer u up

i'll be back for tomorrow, gotta sleep now.

Cheers, Keep on fighting and Never give up!!

S2!!!

GiGidy
07-19-2011, 01:35 PM
i know im gonna ask a stupid question 'n all but saw the emerald warden alt skin the other day... what was that about? did i miss a limited edition release?... gutted

No man, u aint missin anything
EW new alt will come out soon when it got "Fixed"...for some reason i donno
keep ur gold for that :)

Saluuran
07-19-2011, 02:59 PM
Did anyone notice a rollback?? I mean i bought the game for 2 friends. It worked fine for them but we could not play because of the maintenance so we loged off. I got 1000 gold for refering them. Now after a relog they can't log in the game because its says the pass or username combination is not good and i lose my 1000 gold.

irishfro69
07-19-2011, 02:59 PM
i'm agreeing with gigidy a few weeks ago on the double coins weekend. HoN was down from DDoS or w/e the entire weekend and instead of S2 saying that HoN would be down for a day they said, they are "working on the problem and will keep the HoN community informed on progress". I checked 9 hours later and that same post was up. How can 9 hours go by and still no update on the progress or the nature of the problem itself. Wasted my entire weekend. cant wait till dota2

GiGidy
07-19-2011, 11:50 PM
The site is back to work!!
n a 2.0.39 patch!!

yeah S2.

but lol, im now at my office.
cant wait to get back home n...take my girl out for dinner!?!
oh well, i just wanna play Hon.
geez...

CoLOs4L
07-20-2011, 12:58 AM
The site is back to work!!
n a 2.0.39 patch!!

yeah S2.

but lol, im now at my office.
cant wait to get back home n...take my girl out for dinner!?!
oh well, i just wanna play Hon.
geez...

............ :O !!!

GiGidy
07-20-2011, 07:50 AM
............ :O !!!

Yeah...
I will be a corpse if I dont take her out...
this is when u had a Girlfriend.

ME FIRST!! HON LATER!!

lol...T-T

SebbeXZick
07-21-2011, 04:09 AM
ok now fix so u can play the actuall game Okeeey