So enlighten me "pros" how to win ALONE

[d4bidden]

I lost 200 mmr due to retards on my team, but some morons go around claiming "its only your fault you suck". So tell me pros, what can you do against stuff like this.


1700 mmr is easy to break, i managed to do it and i am by no means a good player.
Alucard solo-queued to 2000 iiirc - stop blaming team for your inability to win games.


I love these kind of texts. "I rape, my mates sucks." You can't tell that you played well just by saying that you buy a ton of wards and didnt steal your carries creep. Yes is a part of it, but maybe about 15% of what you should do. The MMR system is working, so if you keep playing with bad team-mates, then maybe you are bad?


Ok lets see Traswh how pro you are.

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42249464 <- Zepher chosen last second and uber fail with him

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42245760 <- Uber feeder Arachna

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42238801 <- SS goes mid and feeds only

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42233593 <- Feeder Hammerstorm and Bomber solo all match

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42231499 <- 2 Leavers 1 AFK

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42224258 <- Fail carrying and team refused to end fast despite I raped early game with Pebbles

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42220857 <- Biggest Feeder Pyro

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42215929 <- Jera was griefing Early game, and Hag goes AFK for 10 minutes

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42211320 <- Tremble goes Mid follows by feeding then AFK

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42181783 <- Leaver Hammerstorm, Pebbles was the worst ever possible

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42178193 <- Feeder Thundra Ruins game

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42171478 <- Legion decided to creep skip leaving me and poly at level 1 while he feeds nomand early game

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42143785 <- 150 GPM Nomand (Blue) Fails to carry despite he had free farm only

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42120891 <- Griefer Jeraziah

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42107907 <- Pebbles ruin game single handedly

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42106058 <- Leaver at Level 1, Amun Ra Feeder

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42064209 <- Despite my warnings to end fast due to WS, my team felt like "farming kills"

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42059824 <- 3 Feeders on my team



List goes on. Tell me how it is my fault.

[Cataclysma]

Your best way to win solo is to pick a dominant mid hero, grab the game by the balls and refuse to let go.

Soulstealer, Wretched Hag, Devourer, pick your poison. If you need more in-depth advice, hit me up. I can go through anything you want with any hero, item builds, skill builds, what you should be doing and most importantly, when.

Also, obligatory comment: the best way to win games is to not get mad. If your teammates are raging, just say to them "look guys, i know you're angry at each other but let's just chill out, have fun, and win the game". If you're calm, you play better.

Good luck.

[The_Karcher]

I dunno, i soloed to 1800.

[Mittsies]

Story of my life.

I can dominate mid, (or my lane with a friend), get numerous kills, do my best to prevent their carry(s) from getting farmed and EVEN BUY WARDS because Glacius obviously needs his riftshards.

But I always lose when I have to deal with:
AFKers
Leavers
People who rage for no reason and grief the game
People who feed 0-10 while screaming "i got stuk with bad team"
Hard Carry on the enemy team who got spoon-fed kills by my morons/griefers

etc.

I try my best to try and get my teams to coordinate and stop yelling at each other, but nothing can stop the raging hormones of a 13-year old kid or a Brazilian who hates his life.

[fredster]

1k games 48% win and below 1600 mmr, still you blame your teammates.

[tbarr1991]

150 gpm with freefarm?

WHAT?

[DemKy]

pick RA...

Seriously this hero is perfect, i was 1100mmr, after 10 game with RA -> 9 win... i'm soon 1300...

This is the perfect hero.

[DarenMoon]

Learn to play.
whatever you're doing,
Raging in game, not raping middle, etc
Change it.
Like the dude said, grab it by the ****ing balls and beat that **** till you win.

[SF3]

1k games 48% win and below 1600 mmr, still you blame your teammates.

H...He..Here we go!

[Juuto]

Your picks are terrible. You're not winning going to solo your way with Keeper, Jera, or any of that bullshit. Don't kid yourself.

I'm going through the same thing, but I know the reason I'm losing MMR and not being able to solo **** is because I click that ****ing random button too much.

[d4bidden]

look anotehr match

leaver MQ and opponents don't remake

[beiberfan420]

in almost all of those games you had really low ck, it might not be completely your fault but you're not doing anything above average in those games

[Repugnance]

i soloed to 1930 and i'm awful

all i did was go devourer, pebbles, panda, or moraxus mid

[Calcifer]

I feel your pain dude. Its the problem of stats - if there were no permanent stats in this game people wouldn't rage so much and it wouldn't mean that you look bad because your random teammates were ****. Best advice I can give is find a group of friends to play with cos thats the best way to win games and have a bit more fun.

[Blueflash]

Not this thread again.

[Nymity]

Solo queue in CM MM (faster coins) Auto Pick Ra, Lane w/ Myrm = win.

Don't **** up and you will have your mock by 20 mins.

[jorge69696]

I have the same problem... I should be at least 1500 but I'm 1100. I rage when I see players with more psr than me but play worse.

Also, lets say I want to go mid to "secure the game" but someone else picks SS, devourer, etc and says he is going mid. Should I let him mid? or should I go mid? What if he says that he is going to feed if he can't have mid? Hell I gave him mid and he feed nonstop anyways. What can I do in this situation?

[d4bidden]

Your picks are terrible. You're not winning going to solo your way with Keeper, Jera, or any of that bullshit. Don't kid yourself.

I'm going through the same thing, but I know the reason I'm losing MMR and not being able to solo **** is because I click that ****ing random button too much.


I play support with them


Oh look Trash are stating l2p. I wish to see you win 2 vs 5 Trash.

[D`Wizzle]

Solo'd to 1885. U Jelly?

[Mustace]

The place it went wrong for you is when you started flashing a 23/4 silhouette on forums with 701.5 xp/m and 523.6 gpm.

If when playing in 15xx brackets you take pride in getting those amounts of farm, you're simply doing it wrong. Get better, learn your mechanics. Learn how to farm. Stop whining on forums.

Just take the game by the balls and play better than your enemies. gank the enemy team. Try to play a specific role till you actually have a clue about what youre doing.

One of the biggest thing trash tier players can do is to carry a ****ing tp with them at all times.

Learn about fog of war. That **** is just op.

Not even going to bother watching any of your games cause you could've turned them for sure.

[Luxis]

If you get a terrible feeder one game, the opposing team will get one the other game. In the end your performerance is the factor determining your MMR. Not saying that you will not have your ups and downs, but your average MMR is decided by personal performerance, nothing else.

[Juuto]

I have the same problem... I should be at least 1500 but I'm 1100. I rage when I see players with more psr than me but play worse.

Also, lets say I want to go mid to "secure the game" but someone else picks SS, devourer, etc and says he is going mid. Should I let him mid? or should I go mid? What if he says that he is going to feed if he can't have mid? Hell I gave him mid and he feed nonstop anyways. What can I do in this situation?

Pick hero.

Say mid or feed. Press the Up arrow key in the chatbox and spam enter every time, multiple times. Go mid. Dual mid? Do it. Do whatever it takes to be mid because that douchebag deserves the loss.

Be a dick. Have fun with the rage. Etc. Etc.

[ScreenShotx]

Soloing to 1700, is 190% possible.
I'm a shitty player still got to 1700 soloing.....

Sure some games you will have a really bad played who feeds like hell...you can't win every game...

But the way to win games by playing solo, is to take a strong mid hero, and DONT RAGE!
act like a leader, and if someone does something stupid, instead of raging at them and making them throw the game, try to be nice and polite and explain what he did wrong....

Use the ingame voice chat instead of typing, this way you wont miss some creep kills and etc...and it's easier for the team to listen to people talking, instead of checking the chat....like in team fights...use the mic....writing someone to do this and that in a team fight wont work...since they are too focused.

I'm by no means a awesome HoN player, and i havent played a HoN game for almost 2 months now (Sice my computer died) , but this is basically how to solo.....

If ur angry/in a bad mood .... playing HoN wont help alot...since you will lose most of the games, cuz ur gonna focus on raging instead of winning.

[Granta]

Some games are beyond salvation for just about anyone and while you could have played MUCH better in all of those games it's not certain to make a difference under those particular circumstances. You have however played close to a thousand MM games and you are still sitting at 48% win. About as many wins will have come from unfortunate circumstances on the other team as losses will have come from unfortunate circumstances on your own team so that point is not a very good one to make.

48% Win with almost 1k games played means that i with confidence can say that you will need to improve or you will most likely keep losing 52% of your games. Admitting that one can do much better under just about any circumstance will let one improve much more easily. If you're blind to your own mistakes you're bound to repeat them endlessly.

Some games will always be lost to you, that you just have to accept. It's the other games you should concentrate on winning which can be achieved by simply playing better.

[TaroEld]

Someone go trough his games and point at the obvious flaws. I'm too lazy.

[D`Wizzle]

Don't mind the OP, he sounds like one of those guys that are like "GG CONCEDE AT 15" when its 4-2

[MooseMoose]

Gg concede at 15

[aesthetiQ]

I lose 60-100 MM rating a day on this account cause I play with friends that are learning not only HoN but DoTA... So I try to solo back up to at least reach the 1400-1500 range only to have the process repeat... Meanwhile, my sub account has been doing nothing but climbing when I play solo. That being said what's worked for me has been strange.

I pick what the team needs and play that role the best I can.

If it's support, babysitting is cool but ganking mid/the other lanes is sometimes the best option I've learned, as the guy you're babysitting will usually be too afraid to do anything.

If it's a mid hero, well that's self explanatory. Just make sure you're not picking SS and going against Devo (or some other combination that really hurts come 10 minutes in).

Sidelane carry? No problem... Make sure you pick ranged so you don't have to depend on your support player to protect you, AND you don't depend on the close lane as someone else will pick up magebane (or some other melee carry with high hopes) and expect it.

That being said, sometimes there's nothing you can do.

[chuphelia]

It's pretty hard to play 1k games and lose that much and blame it on your teammates..

but then again lots of hon players in general are delusional

[Syllab]

I never understood how people could say they're stuck in a bracket, up until 3 days ago. I dropped about 100 MMR due to leavers / intentional feeders / plain bads atm. I think my win ratio dropped 3%.

[too`smithie]

Pick heroes that don’t lose games, win mid, get farm easily and quickly. e.g Dr Repulser, Soul Stealer, Fayde

Noobs don’t know how to counter these heroes let alone any of the above 3.

Bloodhunter may I add is another stomper from 1500-1600.

This is my sub account, my main was at 1,750 when I bought it. Bought it to practice heroes I never played (mentioned above) pretty much had Ss and Dr on lock after 3 attempts and now it's mmr up.

:dark:

[TruffleS]

Herp2thederp
Is my alt, and yes im mostly playing with a friend, but if i can go blink night hound with no ulti and still win a game, I'm pretty sure it isn't my team that's the problem. And atleast until you reach 1800+ it doesn't even matter if your team loses both the other lanes. people are so bad they don't know what to do with the farm so you can just face rape them solo anyway...

[documents]

Solo'd to 1900 easy.

If you can't influence the game by yourself, you're not a great player. Just average or worse. Make your enemy try and hold you down, not the other way around.

[r1g0]

in almost all of those games you had really low ck, it might not be completely your fault but you're not doing anything above average in those games
that goes along with focus on yourself, not the others, and rape mid, arachna is a good one too

[Maniac_]

I have the same problem... I should be at least 1500 but I'm 1100. I rage when I see players with more psr than me but play worse.



if you are 1100 then your belong there cause MM is working.....there is nothing like i should have been 1500 but the others fail.
even if someone else goes mid u can dominate game...i recently droped down to lower 1600s and at this rating i can win games single handed given a hero like hag/ss/mm(my favourite hero :>) even if u go sidelane..as long as u can play your hero really well and pick a hero which is gr8 all game long you should rise in mmr..... as for 1100 bracket if you cant win games alone you belong there :P just my 2 cents though and not meant as a flame so dont be offended.

PS: sry for wall of text its late and i dont care
PPS: not saying im a gr8 player by any means, a little above average at best :P

[Hugsforpeace]

I'm going through the same thing, but I know the reason I'm losing MMR and not being able to solo **** is because I click that ****ing random button too much.

Welcome to the club, random is alot like good blow, once you hit it you just want more and more all night.

Thats why I switched to adderal, no bad come down.

[AliasRaegiru]

Not this thread again.

Yes, this thread again. Shut up and crawl back into your hole, stupid elitist fanboy troll.

[Nathrilka]

Like People say: Pick Deadwood, Pebbles, Pyro, Bubbles, WH, Chipper......claim Mid and Ding at least 1700 or you are not good enough for 1700 to play a carry. Its much harder if you play suport or a realy Babysitter/Wardthing ;). Even with only solo mm i come over 1700 as pure Supporter, i think 1800 i will only reach if im not playing alone.

[Sektumsempra]

solo queued to 1900 sup?

-crying about nooblets/leavers in your team is not a reason, it happens other way around as often and then your the one getting a freewin.

[d4bidden]

don't you love trash talking without knowing what they are talking about?

I had high MMR before having worst week ever.

[romana]

OP i played u just a few seconds ago and u were :devo: it was a 4v5 with hellbringer leaving at the very start and me screwing up quite a bit. Silho vs devo midlane should be an easy win for Silho but hey im not really good. What i did notice is that we could gank u very easily because of u overplaying really bad. also u should spent less time talking trash to the other team and just get over with it. U were calling Silho OP all the time. Well guess what u had RA on ur team so stfu already.

[chuphelia]

don't you love trash talking without knowing what they are talking about?

I had high MMR before having worst week ever.

Funny thing is you probably had your "best week ever" before having this little downswing and you're wondering why you can't stay at your peak psr

[d4bidden]

Funny thing is you probably had your "best week ever" before having this little downswing and you're wondering why you can't stay at your peak psr


Don't you love trash thinking he can win 2vs5 and with 3 feeders on his team

I wish to see you "pro". Bet you're one of those elitist prick players whom when I see them playing I get brain damage by how noob they are.


Like I had a 1.8k mmr talking smack and he followed feeding all match making us ruin the game, or another 1.9k mmr flint who goes elder parasite + frostburn.

[jewz]

Dude, if you have a 10 game losing streak you still play forward? by that time i'd probably thrown out my computer out the window already? And i looked your stats in these games, they weren't very good either.


I actually think OP is something like this

OP heropool in SD - Chronos - Glacius - Behemoth (right click Chronos)
RandomPlayer heropool in SD - Madman, Repulsor, Pandamonium (right click Madman)

OP: Gtfo kid dont pick madman
RP: Dude i don't have anything better, can you play glacius and babysit me? Chronos isn't a very good carry due to his luck % and no scaling skills
OP: gtfo cc at 15

[d4bidden]

OP i played u just a few seconds ago and u were :devo: it was a 4v5 with hellbringer leaving at the very start and me screwing up quite a bit. Silho vs devo midlane should be an easy win for Silho but hey im not really good. What i did notice is that we could gank u very easily because of u overplaying really bad. also u should spent less time talking trash to the other team and just get over with it. U were calling Silho OP all the time. Well guess what u had RA on ur team so stfu already.


Nice try but I don't even play devo

[dkiearth0]

the guy made a post that asking few advices how it will get better not only for him but for other people that want to learn the game and they need few advices...and few people that they are actually know how to play the game they help him/us ...

and then were the classic guys that they dont know how to play or probably they babysit them to their curent MMR like the above ones...


Solo'd to 1885. U Jelly?
I dunno, i soloed to 1800.

that they only tried to fail convice us that they know how to play by trying to show off their mmr,which they didint reach it by them selfs,and not offering any contructive comment.

[chuphelia]

Don't you love trash thinking he can win 2vs5 and with 3 feeders on his team

I wish to see you "pro". Bet you're one of those elitist prick players whom when I see them playing I get brain damage by how noob they are.


Like I had a 1.8k mmr talking smack and he followed feeding all match making us ruin the game, or another 1.9k mmr flint who goes elder parasite + frostburn.

Deal with it, bad teammates are part of the game. I never said I was good.

But delusional players tilt the **** out of me, if you've played that many games and you're stuck at that mmr that's probably where you should be.

You had a good win streak and then you got brought back to ground, it happens

[d4bidden]

Deal with it, bad teammates are part of the game. I never said I was good.

But delusional players tilt the **** out of me, if you've played that many games and you're stuck at that mmr that's probably where you should be.

You had a good win streak and then you got brought back to ground, it happens

normally I'm sitting at 1.7k sometimes go up to 1.8k trash


Think before you think, no one could won those matches, NO ONE

[beiberfan420]

don't you love trash talking without knowing what they are talking about?

I had high MMR before having worst week ever.

http://hon.rychlis.cz/d4bidden/#graph

your rating jumps around alot, looks like your average is somwhere around 1550

you were probably on a winning streak and thats why your losing alot recently

[jewz]

N0tail would do it.

[Omgopolis]

It sounds like you're approaching the game the wrong way bro. You never play the game "ALONE" unless you're doing some lame ass 1v1 stuff. You have a team; bro up and win together.

[Hontourage]

lol op 1k games 1500 get back in the dumpster yuo're trash

[chuphelia]

http://hon.rychlis.cz/d4bidden/#graph

your rating jumps around alot, looks like your average is somwhere around 1550

you were probably on a winning streak and thats why your losing alot recently

exactly what I'm saying but he is too delusional to get it

[romana]

Nice try but I don't even play devo

oh w8 a ****ing second

U WERE THE ****ING Hellbringer leaver. GG bro we could have easily won that game. no wonder u lose mmr

/thread

[ZoRoXo]

Either pick a ranged carry and farm alchemist bones and proceed to outfarm everyone in the game, or play someone with good ganking abillities early on and take over the game.

Even if you end up being forced to play something like an andromeda if you have a good solo hero you can sit behind the opposing mid player and ruin his entire earlygame.

And also very important to remember you can't win them all, sometimes everything just goes wrong and instead of getting mad and whine, it's better to concede early than waste 40+ min

[d4bidden]

Funny how trash think they are talking.

I NEVER lost 1 legit match, always due to feeders and general morons.


Look another loss due to leaver MQ at start of game, and trash like you did not remake. We did quite good for the game 4 v 5 but they finished before Predator could carry.


Keep thinking you know what you are talking about. I bet you're just noobs who get carried and I'm better player then you can ever be.

[Sirenfal]

Funny how trash think they are talking.

I NEVER lost 1 legit match, always due to feeders and general morons.


Look another loss due to leaver MQ at start of game, and trash like you did not remake. We did quite good for the game 4 v 5 but they finished before Predator could carry.


Keep thinking you know what you are talking about. I bet you're just noobs who get carried and I'm better player then you can ever be.

You were given a lot of good advice in this thread. Follow it and quit raging at people who are helping you.

[Zhveck]

If you've only lost due to feeders and morons, then I daresay that you've only won when the feeders and morons were on the other team.

[SAFAD]

solo'd to 1700 and still going on

[ahchamna]

not that hard to get into 1700.. If you choose to blame it on your team, then learn to play 15 min concede heroes and go mid with :dead: :bloo: :doct: :wret: :pebb: :tort: :souls:. If you cant win mid with these heroes, you don't belong in the higher brackets. If you were once there in the bracket, you were carried there. Stop crying and blaming others. Yes, there is a chance you will be stuck with AFK, Brazil, or griefers, but thats like 1 in 10 games. I find it hard to believe you enter every game with one of the three. If someone takes mid from you, take a ricing hero and get atleast 400gpm, from there you can just carry your team that you think is worthless and 1v5 the enemy team. Not that hard. I solo qued to 1750 playing solo mid or support. MMR WORKING AS INTENDED.

[Juztice314]

To get a high PSR solo you need to play "dominate" heroes? I love this because several situations always occur:

"I'M MID!" You will ALWAYS get some guy claiming he is mid and will refuse to move even if you dual mid, ruining the lane and game.

Look, I know some people got to 1800-2000 solo and I would call these exceptional players. This forum is full of people who just want to flex Epeen and call others bad but really if you play solo you still have 4 other players who could mess the game up for you even if you dominated mid.

I'm not amazing, I wouldn't even say i'm good but even I can see games can easily be lost if your team mates are bad, afk, dc etc. Your not going to win 5 v 1 and in some games that is what it is like.

Also I feel it's rather boring to play the same heroes over and over just to get a higher MMR, you must always play the same role just to prove you can hit a high rating, whats the point. I'd rather be shite but having fun in the lower brackets, atleast then I can play different roles.

[Sorcery]

i know you're bad because you boast about 23-4-10 silhouette.......

[Ifixxx]

you can win the game solo pretty easily assuming both other lane's arent feeding,obviously if you have a 70 gpm scout an hour into the game it's different ( i had that on my sub,it's one of my 3 losses with 20 wins atm solo nearly 1700)

[Omgopolis]

This thread should probably be quarantined. You seem pretty dense and full of rage, and you're trolling folks who are trying to help you. Plus you're calling folks "trash" while you're not even rated 2000+, lol. This thread makes me sad now.

FYI, if your rating does get inflated (like yours was) it's really really hard to lose it. You end up at +/- 5 rating each game at best, with many games where only a couple of points are on the line. You have to be pretty bad to lose 200 rating when you're rated highly, playing as the blue/pink guy. I assume this is the case, since you're 1500 ish now, and you're complaining about baddies. If you lost 200 rating like you claim you have, you would have been at 1700+. I'm at 1700 ish and I'm blue/pink nearly every game. I don't play too well, but I still can't really drop down to 1600 or 1500 because I lose very little rating from losses (and I get it back when I win games, because I'm not super bad and can win games). I assume it would be similar for you, which means you must have played pretty badly to drop 200 rating down to the 1500s.

[d4bidden]

oh look

Lost due to MQ Leaver, and another loss due to SW leaver before match start, and morons don't remake.



Teach me how to be so pro like you to win with so many leavers and griefers please

[Ifixxx]

The place it went wrong for you is when you started flashing a 23/4 silhouette on forums with 701.5 xp/m and 523.6 gpm.

If when playing in 15xx brackets you take pride in getting those amounts of farm, you're simply doing it wrong. Get better, learn your mechanics. Learn how to farm. Stop whining on forums.

Just take the game by the balls and play better than your enemies. gank the enemy team. Try to play a specific role till you actually have a clue about what youre doing.

One of the biggest thing trash tier players can do is to carry a ****ing tp with them at all times.

Learn about fog of war. That **** is just op.

Not even going to bother watching any of your games cause you could've turned them for sure.
he's right about the sig btw,i had a 24-0 sil with 700 xp/m and 700 gpm yesterday,does that mean i should boast about it 28 min game btw

edit NORMAL MODE

[d4bidden]

You were given a lot of good advice in this thread. Follow it and quit raging at people who are helping you.


No one gave me advice how to win 2 vs 5 and how not to get leavers in 20 matches in a row

[DaPPa]

pick RA...

Seriously this hero is perfect, i was 1100mmr, after 10 game with RA -> 9 win... i'm soon 1300...

This is the perfect hero.


Sheet son, 1300? good luck man, keep us informed on how it goes.

Also maybe put up a stream? the games must be intense.

[d4bidden]

he's right about the sig btw,i had a 24-0 sil with 700 xp/m and 700 gpm yesterday,does that mean i should boast about it 28 min game btw

edit NORMAL MODE


Oh my that is normal mode not mid wards and it was at start when people where saying "sil sucks"

[Ucross]

It's hard to realize how bad you are in HoN because it's one of those games where it's very easy to NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DON"T KNOW.

Think about it, and understand. It's the reason when most people are x they can't understand why they aren't x+200.

[d4bidden]

It's hard to realize how bad you are in HoN because it's one of those games where it's very easy to NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DON"T KNOW.

Think about it, and understand. It's the reason when most people are x they can't understand why they aren't x+200.


Enlighten me how to win with leavers and feeders on your team pro


Elitist pricks will stay pricks when they only got carried to their rating.

[SeriousCat]

I feel your pain dude. Its the problem of stats - if there were no permanent stats in this game people wouldn't rage so much and it wouldn't mean that you look bad because your random teammates were ****. Best advice I can give is find a group of friends to play with cos thats the best way to win games and have a bit more fun.

My opinion is exactly the same as yours. This stats system destroys the gameplay and contributes to make this community even worse.

[Alliterator]

Pasting a post of mine from another thread.

What it boils down to is that this is a team game, and regardless of how good you are, you are largely dependent on your team.

This is why when you play with friends, whom are reliable or predictable in their level of skill and listen, you tend to have a better gaming experience.

If you're playing solo, the best things you can do to maximize your chances of winning are play your role to the fullest (which you are allegedly doing), but also serve as a vocal leader of your team. If you can convey your map awareness to your allies and thus rally ganks and pushes, or save an ally by conveying enemy tactics/strats/location, your team will have a better chance of winning. An important part of this is, however, is learning to communicate with some people who often times act as though they don't care to listen.

TLDR: Without a group of friends there is more to leading a team to victory than playing your individual character properly.

[Slothenly]

I've been playing this game for about 2 months. I never played Dota, I have some LoL experience (nothing other than the basic concept is really useful in hon) When I first started people raged at me, my mmr dropped down to the 1100's everything seemed bleak. After a some games and some more learning I worked my way up to the 1500's. Today I'm sitting at the 1630's. All I play is solo queue mm normal mode.
So my conclusion is: if I can work my way up from 1100's solo and im a noob. its you.

[BoostN]

Enlighten me how to win with leavers and feeders on your team pro


Elitist pricks will stay pricks when they only got carried to their rating.

you're a ****ing idiot


someone please qft

[MooseMoose]

Funny how trash think they are talking.

I NEVER lost 1 legit match, always due to feeders and general morons.


Look another loss due to leaver MQ at start of game, and trash like you did not remake. We did quite good for the game 4 v 5 but they finished before Predator could carry.


Keep thinking you know what you are talking about. I bet you're just noobs who get carried and I'm better player then you can ever be.

d4bidden
Clan: N/A Rank: N/A MMR: 1576
Player's Level

25
Wins
476 Losses
511 Win %
48%
Matches Played:987
Disconnects:34
Leave Percentage:3%
Kills:5,452
Deaths:4,392
Assists:7,473
K:D Ratio:1.2:1


Ya your amazing LMFAO. At that bracket I can afk for first 5mins come back win lane and then carry while solo queing.

[Turibur]

Enlighten me how to win with leavers and feeders on your team pro


Elitist pricks will stay pricks when they only got carried to their rating.

You really work hard at telling yourself that its not your fault that your mmr is low. I really doubt you lost 450 games due to leavers and griefers.

Here is a fun fact for you, we ALL get griefers/leavers/idiots in our team sometimes. The only way to make up for them is your own skill. Cant do it? Then you probably arent as good as you think you are.

[Rayleigh]

If you solo MM you basicly need to have a lot of luck to get decent teammates. You can do a lot but not win a game by yourself no matter which lane or hero you choose.
Once you got to the 1700-1800 bracket you more often get decent teammates...but around the 1500 bracket..hallelujah...

[Alliterator]

I will add:

I'm going to make a perhaps inaccurate assumption based on your tone in this thread and venture you speak like this in game. This probably has a significant effect on having teammates leave and/or ignore you. No one likes when people rage.

[d4bidden]

You really work hard at telling yourself that its not your fault that your mmr is low. I really doubt you lost 450 games due to leavers and griefers.

Here is a fun fact for you, we ALL get griefers/leavers/idiots in our team sometimes. The only way to make up for them is your own skill. Cant do it? Then you probably arent as good as you think you are.


did you ever get 30 matches in a row of griefers/leavers/idiot?

[TaySwiftblad]

well in first place you should probably stop putting **** like this
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/C_W/silohetenotcarry.png
in your signature. This shows how much of a beginner you are. Good players, those who win games ALONE do this in a regular basis and dont need to brag about it.

Also, 90 apm.

[MiniDon]

I was 1769, lost about 80 mmr in a row, until i was 1680 ish........ the funny thing was, i played mid gankers, like hag, pebbles etc etc. whats also funny is most of those games where i played mid heroes i went 7-0, whats also funny is that our carry was always 1-9 :DD

So how could i carry them? i couldnt unless i played hard carries, solo mm is really dodgey, you get 1700s who do not deserve it but you get 1600s who can beat 1800s..

Also saying solo mm and not winning = you being bad is bullshit, i went 7-0 earlygame vs soulstealers mid, 1900 psr players as hag and stomped them, however that didnt matter when your carry on the team is feeding, and ended like 10-7 which was so frustrating, i had 57 % win, turned into 52% when i got so unlucky i got crappy teams so many times :( when i played with a group of friends i went scores like 21-2, completely raping, that just goes to show how much teammates are worth, early game its pretty much the same when you play solo mid, wether your with friends or not, what comes after the earlygame is what changes so much.. the late game and the teamfights change so much when playing with a group of friends than when playing with random pubs.

You have to be really really good to be able to win alone, or you need to rape with a carry, not a ganker, someone like ss, valk, cd, sil can carry a game in a solo pub but a hero like pebs, hag etc cant :(
and those are the type of heroes i played.... MM is way 2 random but ohh well :(

[Graviton]

I soloed to 1800+ as well. Basically what I did was go middle as much as possible 90%+. You dont necessarily need a "mid" hero, you just want to out level side lanes and gank when you kill their mid hero or get a good ganking rune. In other words mid is the best lane for controlling the game.After I reached 1750ish where other people are competent or better than you, I started playing the roles that team needed to win.

I could probably solo my way to 1900 but 1800 is very boring unless you have a team which is mostly why I play my smurf account to play with my buddies who cant get past 1600s lolz.

[Turibur]

did you ever get 30 matches in a row of griefers/leavers/idiot?

Sure i have, there is loads of idiots on the internet. I still won about half of those games though because most of the time the opponents also have an idiot or two.

[Alliterator]

I was 1769, lost about 80 mmr in a row, until i was 1680 ish........ the funny thing was, i played mid gankers, like hag, pebbles etc etc. whats also funny is most of those games where i played mid heroes i went 7-0, whats also funny is that our carry was always 1-9 :DD

So how could i carry them? i couldnt unless i played hard carries, solo mm is really dodgey, you get 1700s who do not deserve it but you get 1600s who can beat 1800s..

Also saying solo mm and not winning = you being bad is bullshit, i went 7-0 earlygame vs soulstealers mid, 1900 psr players as hag and stomped them, however that didnt matter when your carry on the team is feeding, and ended like 10-7 which was so frustrating, i had 57 % win, turned into 52% when i got so unlucky i got crappy teams so many times :( when i played with a group of friends i went scores like 21-2, completely raping, that just goes to show how much teammates are worth, early game its pretty much the same when you play solo mid, wether your with friends or not, what comes after the earlygame is what changes so much.. the late game and the teamfights change so much when playing with a group of friends than when playing with random pubs.

You have to be really really good to be able to win alone, or you need to rape with a carry, not a ganker, someone like ss, valk, cd, sil can carry a game in a solo pub but a hero like pebs, hag etc cant :(
and those are the type of heroes i played.... MM is way 2 random but ohh well :(


Since when can you not carry a game with hag as well as valk, ss, cd or sil, if you're dominating in an analogous scenario?

[wondR]

Pick an important hero, win game.

[Tommoh]

did you ever get 30 matches in a row of griefers/leavers/idiot?
If you're gonna let bad luck bring you down, good luck in life!

Read the advices people have given you here and stop crying about your teammates being bad in "every single game" you join. Compensate for their lack of skill.

[SleepingJoey]

Don't play when you're mad or upset. ezpz

[playgu`]

Pick an important hero, win game.

this.

[me_so_horny]

good post

[Lassari]

well if you really wanna avoid retards than it's best just to find some friends that you know are good and group with them

[Octavia]

Well there's a few steps you gotta take.

Gotta not suck
Gotta get good

Looks like you're stuck at step 1.

[rayven]

I also soloed to 1800+, but I honestly feel you man.

[Rofl_Cake]

Well there's a few steps you gotta take.

Gotta not suck
Gotta get good

Looks like you're stuck at step 1.

Where.

Is.

Your Yugi sig? What is this new nonsense?

[d4bidden]

Well there's a few steps you gotta take.

Gotta not suck
Gotta get good

Looks like you're stuck at step 1.


Used to respect you, guess you are down to trash tier who don't know what you are talking about.

[Octavia]

Used to respect you, guess you are down to trash tier who don't know what you are talking about.
Oh dear lost respect from a guy whose best game ever was a 23-4 Silhouette.

[d4bidden]

Oh dear lost respect from a guy whose best game ever was a 23-4 Silhouette.


Like i said don't know what you are talking about.

Its not my best game, I posted that when people where QQing that Sil suck, I didn't update for ages.

[ajz]

this thundra hero, who is he? are you in some secret beta? 8)

[KEENGAMER]

Your sig is "I got 500 gpm once" You must be bad problem solved

[Skye]

http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Impossible-People

[d4bidden]

Your sig is "I got 500 gpm once" You must be bad problem solved


try 700 with zepher

[ArnoldRimmer]

Yeah I dont like Rodger's new sig

[KEENGAMER]

Also I just checked your stats, you have bad average ck and bad average hero kills these are reasons you lose. In trial account week I got out of 1500 in like 5 games multiple times, you've not managed that in 1000 games. It's not your teammates :S

[rayven]

Like i said don't know what you are talking about.

Its not my best game, I posted that when people where QQing that Sil suck, I didn't update for ages.
Hurr durrrr. Who on earth says that Sil sucks? Really? She is like the most OP hero S2 ever released :DDddddddddddddddddd derp

[Tsatseura]

I understand how frustrating it can be, being let down by other people. It happens a lot. On the flipside, no one can perform to the best of their ability every game. I feed some times, I make bad decisions, everyone does.
But in the end, the matchmaking system does work. If you keep playing, you get to where you belong. Whether that's where you think you belong is another matter. I consider myself a pretty bad player generally, usually sitting around the 1600 mark. Right now I'm around 1480 MMR because of a terrible streak (on my part also) but I'm working to improve and get back to where I THINK I belong. On the other hand, I got down here and I'm not exactly dominating most games.. so maybe I do belong down here..

[Newchap]

I suggest you take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Then take a look at yourself, and play another 1000 games.

Then come back here if the problem isn't solved yet.

[kvasimoto]

Bought this game like a week ago, STUGLING to get past 1620+ just because the matchmaking is so flaud.

I know i could get to the top tier EASILY, but there is no way to carry idiots with 1400 rating thru any game.

Only chance is to get a decent team for many matches in a row.

I know its your ****ing idiotic way to make ppl play more and get then hooked on the matchmaking system when you bounce up and down but really...

Game uninstalled bb S2 = one shitty company.

[Kolapz]

Bought this game like a week ago, STUGLING to get past 1620+ just because the matchmaking is so flaud.

I know i could get to the top tier EASILY, but there is no way to carry idiots with 1400 rating thru any game.

Only chance is to get a decent team for many matches in a row.

I know its your ****ing idiotic way to make ppl play more and get then hooked on the matchmaking system when you bounce up and down but really...

Game uninstalled bb S2 = one shitty company.

Bye.

Serious case of "mad cuz bad".

[bg]

True answer: play well, regardless of what you play. Sure, if you play certain roles (mid), if you truly are better at it than your MMR reflects, you'll speed things up. But either way, don't let losing streaks get to you (and conversely, don't let winning streaks inflate your ego and make you think you're better than you are), and over time you should hover roughly around where you should be.

[kingcools]

the hardest part of playing this game in a more serious manner is admitting that you have your flaws.
To start it:
I recently played deadwood and got pretty much destroyed because i played pretty stupid(even though i had to get a new courier and no wards but still, was my fault) and got ganked alot, even though this could have been easily avoided by better map awareness and an additional ward at another location(i could have bought it, but didnt -> mistake). Pretty stupid just like my first death. Im trying to avoid it the next time im playing. See, not so bad.
It is kids behaviour to try to flame others and make them admit their own weakness instead of taking advice and trying to improve.

[Skye]

normally I'm sitting at 1.7k sometimes go up to 1.8k trash


Think before you think, no one could won those matches, NO ONE

http://hon.rychlis.cz/d4bidden/#graph

This guy is really good at trolling.

If you say you are not d4bidden, you obviously can not face the facts.
Take a look at your own graph and tell me that you have not lied about your mmr.

You might actually be so delusional that you actually think you are good. That in itself is pretty funny.

The truth hurts doesn't it? Trash.

[Alliterator]

^ End thread. Thumbs up.

Sigh. Now I remember why I don't post here.

[KillBei]

OP is trolling hard -- he's never even broken 1700.

At 1500 I have literally won games almost alone. As in it's 5v5 but really I'm doing all the work 1v5. I go mid with chipper; it's generally good fun. Is it harder? Yeah, but in half the games at 1500 I'll get SOME help from my teammates anyways, and the other half I can just stomp their mid and proceed to stomp the rest of them. Even shitty carry players can outfarm the other carry if I am keeping him permanently at <150 gpm. Nobody gets better moaning about their misfortune.

[d4bidden]

that graph do not show all stats nooblet.

Also look, another 3 matches with LEAVERS ONLY


Teach me how to win with so many leavers before you say I'm bad ****tards.

[bobbysnobby]

just win the game you trashcan, its not hard.

soloed to 1800 +

[Sorcery]

that graph do not show all stats nooblet.

Also look, another 3 matches with LEAVERS ONLY


Teach me how to win with so many leavers before you say I'm bad ****tards.

as someone said before... "don't suck"

clearly, you suck

[Infamous23]

I'm far from a elitist but I know i can solo my mmr past 1700+ blindfolded. I don't know but taking a good mid hero and taking over the game is pretty easy in the lower brackets. Get rune control, kill mid or gank side lanes the carries or the ones that are getting fed early, do that over and over till they pass that 15 min concede! Oh yeah and if you want your support to ward, ask nicely, then if they don't just do it by yourself and don't whine about it, whining to your teamates gets nothing done at all, it's just very stupid, clouds your team in a losing environment the moment you start raging. Just play better and you won't have to whine about nothing.

The most OP thing you could do to get out of those brackets is always carry a tp, it's just overpowered carrying a TP at all times and making sure you have at least 2 of them if you wanna be really good. Map control escaping and counter-ganking/ ganking is what a tp provides.

Ganking mid all game when your on the side lanes is also pretty OP, if you try gank and you know they got wards up put a rev ward on that FLYING COURIER(gotta upgrade that asap) and counter ward their rune vision, then procede to gank.

If team gots a jungler like WS, Pred, WB, Legon get a good ganker mid like HAG , BH, DW, pebbles and put that bastard lockdown.

When your mid 2-3 ck nets you 1 ward to give you some rune control, stop being stingy and get it yourself.

At lower levels you gotta ping like a madman just for your teamates to listen, call miss at least 3 times over and over, they're simply not going to see if you type it once, if you type it once they will just get ganked and rage.

If your in the side lane put a ward in clever spots to avoid ganks for 6 minutes, there problem solved your not getting ganked by mid during the entire laning phase. Defensive ward/s during laning phase is 10x better than having having zero vision and hiding by your tower every time mid goes missing, your missing a ton of exp and ck by doing that.

Pick dev in the side lane burrow in the trees and hook them, this defiinetly net you a free kill on a squishy over and over during laning phase.

Get good with Kraken, he provides everything that any team would need in a variety of different line ups.

Can't blame your losses on your teamates, your never going to get better that way. You just gotta do what ever one else did to get some what decent is to play better and carry those feeders, your where you belong if your letting some feeders hold you back like that. I play with my dad in low level games sometimes and we win with him going like 0-14 LOL, he's really super bad!

[Skye]

that graph do not show all stats nooblet.

Also look, another 3 matches with LEAVERS ONLY


Teach me how to win with so many leavers before you say I'm bad ****tards.

Notice at the top of the graph. It says "Full history".

Let us reflect on what this means.

[Sentura]

nomand. that is all.

[MTING]

really as many times you lose because of bad teams you win cause of their team being bad
stop complaining on forums and get better so that your mmr stabilizes instead of you just getting carried up by other people
also stop blaming your team...when you lose its as much your fault as your team

[xZiGGY]

Your picks are terrible. You're not winning going to solo your way with Keeper, Jera, or any of that bullshit. Don't kid yourself.

I'm going through the same thing, but I know the reason I'm losing MMR and not being able to solo **** is because I click that ****ing random button too much.
sure Juuto, that's the reason

[KalurO]

List goes on. Tell me how it is my fault.

Bad communication from your side. Rather than helping out the feeders and giving them advice you decided to not communicate.

If the team is doing bad you have to step up and lead them. You have to show them how things are done and what you expect from them. Else they will jsut get demotivated and play even more badly.

You claim you're the best player on the team, show it by coördinating and assisting your team, individually too when needed.

[nizzle]

I think the big deal here is attitude. Might not get you 200 MMR, but it's a start.I know that sounds REALLY gay, but listen.
No matter what MMR, there are going to be trolls. Don't let them get to you. d4bidden I've read your responses to a few people saying you suck, and you just straight up rage back at them. You've gotta keep your cool, even when your team mates are screaming at you, or you are screaming at them. Too often people rage at their team mates for dying a couple times, instead of helping them. Good players help their team mates- not scream at them.
Atleast that's my take on it. I'm far from the best, heck, maybe even below average, but I don't think many people would object to my thought. It's atleast a place to start

[uNERDZ]

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/m...p?mid=42215929 (http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42215929) <- Jera was griefing Early game, and Hag goes AFK for 10 minutes


Its funny how Hag can be AFK for 10 min and still outlevel you.


Ive looked at alot of your replays posted and you're often just plain outpicked, have bad item choices and feeds alot. *****ing about Legionair feeding nomad, when he infact outfarmed and out leveled him, while you went something like 2-14.

You obviously dont play your role like you're suppose to. You probably have be awareness of whats happening on the map, you dont communicate properly, you dont make sure you get mapcontrol as support and you cant carry since your average CK isnt good enough. In this case it just seems like You, and probably people on your team aswell, fail alot. And thats why you wont solo to 1800.

[KalurO]

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42249464 <- Zepher chosen last second and uber fail with him

3-7-11 with 1,7 CKM and a mere 440 XPM is just horrible.



http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42245760 <- Uber feeder Arachna

1-3-7 with 2 CKM and <400 XPM is just horrible




http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42238801 <- SS goes mid and feeds only

2-2-5 okay, can do. 1,3 CKM?!? 218 XPM?! ..



http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42233593 <- Feeder Hammerstorm and Bomber solo all match

Now this is what I'd call an "average" statistic (Below average.) Here you equal a regular 1500 player's statistics but have done nothing to really show you dont belong in that bracket.



http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42231499 <- 2 Leavers 1 AFK

Stuff like this happens. Next time you'll have 2 AFKers and a quitter on the other team. Get over it. 50/50.



http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42224258 <- Fail carrying and team refused to end fast despite I raped early game with Pebbles

You had 14-3-8 yet you didnt pass >500XPM. This shows sloppy playstyle and not being able to stay ahead of the enemy team. That is your job as a ganker, to keep that edge on them so you can keep owning them.

This is also reflected back by your <300 GPM. Learn to last hit/farm more in lane and in between ganks. Right now you made yourself useless.
[/QUOTE]


etc.etc.

[S3LO]

400000th post on that subject, I have 2 account at 1900+. I both solo queued to 1900. ( Now I almost never play alone or its stomp for sure )

[Juuto]

sure Juuto, that's the reason

Nah, I'm just putting up a show tbh.

I play Support, don't ward, and get carried by smurfs and I only get depressed when I drop down to my real MMR levels.

I'm just trying to help.

[Mustekala]

4on5 can be easily win. Games with feeders can be easily win. Games with griefers are almost impossible to win. Trust me, I soloed to 1900+, best rating 1948 currently. I've seen lots of game throwing, griefing and 'we are afk, concede pls, kick blue pls he is not conceding' - sh1theads about every 4th time. You can't win those games but you got chance to win rest 75% of games.

[Dragoon`]

is this guy trollin or a retard

[Deceiver]

A good Jungle Hero such as Warbeast, or Ophelia can take over low psr games no problem. Pick your best hero and suggest your teammates get a good solo hero for the top lane, Valk, Bubbles, Torturer, Plague Rider, Aluna, or Even Deadwood/Devourer, and if they have to leave lane pop in and soak up the experience till they get back. Whenever mid leaves to gank, push mid lane tower down asap. You'll want to concentrate on getting your chalice, then steamboots, then pbox + Whispering Helm and Finally Shrunken Head. Make sure you Pull all the time into the top lane, and stack creeps as much as you can for maximum gold efficiency.

I have a few replays I'll link you so you can look at them :).

Edit: Apparently the match stats are down at the moment so I can't link them :(

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42200012 Just watch how I jungle etc. I think I randomed him in this game. Because of a DC.

Also, I can only post that one replay because the servers being so crappy lately its the only latest game I have :(

[Repugnance]

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/5238/thisishow.png

do the above and you win games

[Airmaqz]

Well I will play with you if you'd like.

[Omgopolis]

Well I will play with you if you'd like.
Why would you do that to yourself? Clearly this guy has issues and would not be fun to play with at all. It isn't hard to imagine all of those players leaving his team because of how unbearable playing with him is.

[Pyrogen]

i soloed to 1930 and i'm awful

all i did was go devourer, pebbles, panda, or moraxus mid

playing panda well is not that easy. You clearly are not awful.

[Souped]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger

"incompetent people will

tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve."

[Seethe]

Stop solo queueing, Get some friends MORON

[FuelCell]

I dunno I got 2 pure supports and 1 semi support account to 1700 Solo MMR, BUT I MUST BE LUCKY RIGHT? All of them have at least 4 ward avg

[Triston]

i find the best way to get a better psr is to be a better support,
try being a ward whore....always keep wards up in good places, carry tp's, etc...

another thing to do is to never rage, and always say supportive things...you CAN change a person's mental outlook, which is a big determining factor when playing...seriously, it only takes one very well defended team fight to turn the game around...if your teammates are *****in dont flame...it never helps...encouragement is always best...

we all get pissed but seriously, if you can avoid it, you'll not only improve your win %, but you'll enjoy the game soooo much better.....

your not gonna get the best players in solo, you will get noobs, you will get ragers, you will get afk and theres nothing you can do about it but go for the win and act like a champion....

[Blueflash]

Yes, this thread again. Shut up and crawl back into your hole, stupid elitist fanboy troll.

I'm Guessing you didn't check my mmr, a 1400 scrub like me is in no way an elitist, heck i suck so bad its shameful, what i meant was that i've seen this thread so many times in the last few weeks its ridiculous, i swear this must be the 34th one give or take.

Personal attacks on me matter about as much to me as Huge boobs, which is sadly not much (i think i have a problem)

[IntErlIdEr]

Who said you're not the retard?

~IntEr

[Rofl_Cake]

Winning low games is all about Responsibility Pie.

What is that? That's the amount of responsibility that must be eaten to ensure victory. In a team game, this pie is theoretically to be divided up into five parts.

However that is not the case. Some people are just too bad to handle their piece of the pie, so you have to eat it for them.

Here's an example of a responsibility pie:

:valk:
:witc::pand::legi:
:plag:

That's a five piece pie. Mmm mm, looks like a tasty win. But uh oh, we have a problem:

:pand:- This hero sucks. He cannot handle his piece.

:legi:- This hero needs 20 minutes in the jungle to be any good. He can't eat his piece yet.

:witc:- Slayer. Your allies cannot eat their pieces of the pie. It is now your responsibility to take their pieces of the pie and ensure victory.

TL;DR- You have to pull double and sometimes triple duty to bring yourself up in the ranks. It's stressful, and you have to carry bads, but that is how you win. Pick those heavies up and take a BIG piece of responsibility pie each game!

[Memnom]

How not to get 30 leavers in a row: Don't be insufferable.

[TheHammer3]

The short answer is you can't always win alone. We all lose some games because of a bad team. Nobody in this thread has found a way to win totally solo. /thread

[Juuto]

i find the best way to get a better psr is to be a better support,
try being a ward whore....always keep wards up in good places, carry tp's, etc...

another thing to do is to never rage, and always say supportive things...you CAN change a person's mental outlook, which is a big determining factor when playing...seriously, it only takes one very well defended team fight to turn the game around...if your teammates are *****in dont flame...it never helps...encouragement is always best...

we all get pissed but seriously, if you can avoid it, you'll not only improve your win %, but you'll enjoy the game soooo much better.....

your not gonna get the best players in solo, you will get noobs, you will get ragers, you will get afk and theres nothing you can do about it but go for the win and act like a champion....

No, honey. You're not gonna win with Thunder/Shroud FA by playing Ward *****.

[Decency]

My experiment with "MMR Hell" : http://hon.rychlis.cz/Pegged/

Watch the replays, take notes.

[Skye]

What the hell? People are still posting in this troll thread?
Please let it die.

We have gotten the same message from different players on every thread.

Play better.

[Stringer]

bad kid is bad

[uhmonster]

Mad bad just pick mid if you want to win, k? Doubt you will get out of the dumpster any time soon anyways.

[Fancy_Pantz]

I've noticed that there has been an increase of smurf accounts.

[Minaxter]

If your below the rating you should be at, you will eventually get back there. Dont give up or get mad about it. Just forget about rating for a while and enjoy the game, i guarentee the less you worry about it the less you will rage and the more game you will win

[Wallabo]

When you think about it even though this is a team game. if you are solo queuing you are correct in saying that there is not much you can do to control your teams performance despite how well you have done.

But... It is my honest opinion that if you were genuinely that good of a player you would still manage to succeed. All of the games pointed out you are blaming someone. If you cannot control your teams performance maybe you should try at improving your own EVEN MORE.

But other than that you have a pretty weak argument in terms of comments like "feeder pyro" You may be worth +50/100 MMR but there is a reason that you are losing.

1. Your failure to communicate (eg. "Feeder pyro please B to that tower")
2. Your failure to admit you are to blame

This extreme arrogance is what will make or break a team player in a team game such as HoN. I have a friend who is incredibly skill-full but sulks as soon as he dies. He always blames others and as a result he does not learn constructive skills.

He is about 1650 MMR but could easily be 1800 if he started to act a little more maturely and constructively.

I on the other hand communicate well with my team but I am simply terrible at some of this game's aspects e.g. Creeping, Not ramboing/feeding. But that is why I am a 1500 scrub. There is me admitting I am doing something wrong maybe you should try? I guarantee you will learn from it.

Your team MAY not be as good as you, so be a leader.
Good Luck!
If you had the skill you could carry yourself out of 1600 but I think you are on par with your game skill level and as mentioned above, could use help with your other skills.

[doppelstern]

Well you are part of the problem. Every time I fall too much in mmr I just start to pick dr/hag/valk, go mid and hopefully win. It has worked every time.

[NortproN]

i've watched about 200 games live of my friend who is solo 1900(!) MMR

He always picks mid or carry and people in his tier nearly always let him do it. if someone calls mid he doesn't make a fuss about it even if he would win the game if he got mid, and if there are 3-4 carrys he will still pick carry/mid as he is certain that if he picks a carry he is more likely to win.

He knows exactly which items to get depending on the matchup (most people know kinda what to get but only adjust in some obvious cases.)

and the main part is he is always in the right place at the right time and 95% of the time that's farming. genrally farms even though he knows his team is going to herpderp in 4on5s because he knows he can win it alone rather then also dying in that fight.

[cubethepube]

****ing man up, and learn to play

[endra]

just have a friend that is 1700 bracket and carried to 1600 like me lol

[Ladokz]

i've watched about 200 games live of my friend who is solo 1900(!) MMR

He always picks mid or carry and people in his tier nearly always let him do it. if someone calls mid he doesn't make a fuss about it even if he would win the game if he got mid, and if there are 3-4 carrys he will still pick carry/mid as he is certain that if he picks a carry he is more likely to win.

He knows exactly which items to get depending on the matchup (most people know kinda what to get but only adjust in some obvious cases.)

and the main part is he is always in the right place at the right time and 95% of the time that's farming. genrally farms even though he knows his team is going to herpderp in 4on5s because he knows he can win it alone rather then also dying in that fight.
ok ty for the lesson i shall now first pick scout and go farm for 40min in woods and then come out and bend over

[Wea53l]

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Signature made my day^^

[Ladokz]

Signature made my day^^
them teams..... they bads..... :P

[NortproN]

ok ty for the lesson i shall now first pick scout and go farm for 40min in woods and then come out and bend over

There's a difference between ignoring all fighting and instinctively thinking "3 of my team are getting ganked by 5 soon. they are dumb. Looking at factors x and y i'm deciding to help/not to help/to tell them to back"

[Ladokz]

There's a difference between ignoring all fighting and instinctively thinking "3 of my team are getting ganked by 5 soon. they are dumb. Looking at factors x and y i'm deciding to help/not to help/to tell them to back"
u mean i should stealth out of mah woods when ulti is off and snap a keel?

:scou:

[Felathar]

Add me bro. We can play together. I dont have to worry about me going afk or DC at least

[NortproN]

u mean i should stealth out of mah woods when ulti is off and snap a keel?

:scou:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8264/kekey.jpg

[DarthCidious]

Okay since ive got a 1600-1700 smurf i know what you are talking about, this bracket is simply about luck.
I cant get it out of this bracket no matter how hard i try.
getting the retards should be even, as i said SHOULD. too bad 90% of my games are over before it even starts yet sometimes i manage to convince my team to try after im going like 6:0 in mid and we end up winning.
the story of this bracket nowadays is simple, there will be 1! ward at max not warding the enemy teams pull since tahts not needed but usually they cry for a gank (with a pushed up lane due to the other team pulling) before i even hit level 4 in mid. a courier is usually common in about 50% of the games my team will get one.
now the real issue is ppl failing in their lanes, last game just as an example, i picked polly in sd and called mid. pink and brown saying they ll lane together being clan mates and what do they end up picking? behemoth maliken. as soon as the game started pink starts with insulting me the worst kind of insults ive heard in quite some time since suddenly i should babysit maliken. i said i wont and ill go mid -> results into behe saying he wont buy wards at all (same story for pharaoh so im buying my own wards for the rune) i start off something around 8:2 after quite some time due to getting ganked by 3 ppl twice without a mia call. by taht time behemoth sits in our fountain and insults me for losing their game etc (15 minutes in) while im at 450 gpm pushing their towers and raping teamfights.
at the 30 min mark the game was over i was down to 300 gpm died everytime a teamfight approached to their 3 blinks since it took pharaoh more than 3 seconds to counter initate after i told my team ill bait them behind the tower.

the game before that, ws neither buys a ward nor a courier, keeper goes bot with flint and buys a hatchet (flint had his frostburn 45 mins in while keeper had mock bones etc) we lost that game as well cuz of having no wards and no one except me (chipper) interrupted a single devo ulti in teamfights.
teamfights, another reason why so many of those 1600 games fail, supports thinking that their auto attack dps isnt even existant.
so often i see (e.g. said ws) going in STUNNING before the teamfight even started and stunning if they are lucky 1 hero, then hexing someone else and running back, staying out of the fight until the cd comes up again.

if the replay data base would be up id post a few examples, but for now i can only state what happened the past games
me being dw going 10:0:2 teamstats bein 13:16 game was lost as soon as teamfighting started since i was the only one doing anything
chipper being 4:1:3 mid ganking their lanes yet losing everyteamfight due to dev ulting me and no one caring about interrupting
polly with 450 gpm (as said above) game lost due to behe
going mid as slither vs devo preventing him from getting any cks the whole game he lands a lucky hook into his tower and manages to DENIE himself while i die 2 shots later to his tower (level 1 rot with 2 dots on him)
krakens reply "fu noob ill go mid you suck feeder", had no more lane to go in went to jungle a bit to at least get some cks -> got kicked after

:x
tl,dr: Pubbing is gambling, and since some stomp their way outta there there gotta be others only losing =)

[Ladokz]

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8264/kekey.jpg
nooo you found out

[flint88]

Also, obligatory comment: the best way to win games is to not get mad. If your teammates are raging, just say to them "look guys, i know you're angry at each other but let's just chill out, have fun, and win the game". If you're calm, you play better.

Good luck.

so damn true. i always play better when im playing just for fun. ofc im focused but when i try to hard and getting angry most of the times i loose.

[AYCARAMBA]

I just played against you on a smurf.

You're bad. There is no problem about being bad. The thing with you is moreso the attitude, you actually think you're good (or better than your team since you keep blaming them OR keep saying "wtf lucky" everytime).

If you think you're good you won't really become better at the game.