Begin with Pyromancer...

[Rashef]

Hi, I'm very new to this game (and this game-kind). I really like it but I understand I gotta study and learn something more.

Thanks to some very helpful users (people, I say, there are only a few player giving suggestion and training... others only says "fu**ing noobz!") I understand some basics (and terms).

I like Pyromancer (but I guess I need to find an alternative too) and I grow up very quickly until 15th level (while my mates are at <13). Then I stop growing or I grow very slowly. I suppose it depends on my very low kill ratio... I often try to get closer to enemies and shot them but I'm slow and my (low) hp ends quickly (even if full). So I tends to remain back...

I usually starts with:


2 sets of runes
1 mana pot.
1 heal pot.
1 homecoming stone
2 minor totem

During the game I try to reach Staff of the Master and Enchante Marchers (for higher movement and attacking speed).

But since I go over 16th lvl it's hard to get something else...

P.S.: I asked for a Mentor, but I'd like to recive some suggestions from the gurus in the meanwhile! :)

[k1desu]

maybe start with a bottle and ask your mates if you can go to the middle lane solo.

try to check the rune spots in the river every 2 minutes, and bottle the runes as they provide good buffs to dominate and they fill your bottle to get a great supplie of health/ mana.

when youre level 6 go to support your mates in ganks, i'd suggest that you stay hidden until your mates initiate the attack, or you intitiate with your stun.

once 1 or 2 enemies are stunned you hit them 2-3 times with normal attacks and then use either Dragonfire or your ultimate blazing strike to finish both or 1 enemy off.

your items seem to be good, but here are a few more which support pyromancer great:
- sacrificial stone
- frostfield plate
- codex
- hellflower
- behemoth heart

[MrHaze]

Portal Key is the best item on Pyromancer ever.
As you've said - he's slow, and his stun has a huge tell&delay, so the best way to hit with it is to come in unseen.
As for health, ditch the Enhanced Marchers and go for STR Steamboots. They'll increase your survivability, the only thing you're really losing out on over Enhanced is the quick movespeed boost and the attack speed, and Fervor will take care of those if you need to autoattack once your nukes have been spent.

Find a target who thinks he's safe:
Blink right next to them. Dragonfire. Wave. Blazing. Autoattack if necessary. Dead.

Very few people expect a Pyromancer of all things to be blinking in next to them, afterall.

One thing to keep in mind about 'hanging back' as Pyro - You may be fragile, but you have an AOE stun and a high damaging wave. You need to be in the thick of it helping your team given how much raw damage your spells deal. Don't go in first, but don't be the guy standing way back at the tower who causes your team to lose the fight, you should do fine keeping up in levels.

Also try building a Totem of Kuldra before that Staff of the Master. Mana Regen+A Garanteed disable on an enemy hero works wonders and your teammates will love you for it.

[pilf]

Try not to solo with Pyromancer. He's insane on a dualstun-lane and meh as a solo.
Thunderbringer rapes you e.g. and DONT buy bottle first. Imagine you face Thunder who bought stat-items and youre running around with 400-500 hp. He will nuke you to death faster than you could ever imagine. You won't be able to grab any rune coz if you tried you would die.


Bottle first works only against noobs. Don't get used to do this or you might regret it.


Instead start with reg and stat items.
Get 2-3 Mana Potions, Runes of the Blight or Health potions.
1-2 Pretenders Crown
2x Minor totem.

So all you need can be: 1x Pretenders Crown, 2x mana potions, 2x minor totem, 1x runes, 1x health potion = 581 gold.

Get a bottle via teamcrow later.
And if you face an enemy with bottle first, just grab the runes and kill him if he tries to fight you at the runespot because you have 76 more hitpoints and 52 more mp.
That sounds not much, but it is.


and yep: Portal Key is a must have item on pyromancer.

[Damage]

You're crazy Haze...

So crazy it just might work. I'm going to try it next time I play pyro just for lolz.

[MrHaze]

You're crazy Haze...

So crazy it just might work. I'm going to try it next time I play pyro just for lolz.
Ecth told me to do it in an IH once. I did, and ever since I always get Portal Key on him. So yeah, it's crazy and works.

[sneakysob]

Sooooo much fail in this thread.

I usually start with 2x Minor Totems 2x Mana Pots 1x Tangoes and whatever Mantle of Intelligence is in this game.

Progression after this is Bottle, Marchers

then 2x talisman

then i usually build sac stone or kuldra

Edit: You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.

[junglebadger]

lol you LC ppl, portal key? i must try that sometime. anyway, directed to hte OP, your second core item (if not portal key :P) should be either a totem of kuldra if your team needs the disable, frostfield plate if you need the armor or a sacrificial stone if you're owning and you need lots of health. you have to judge how each individual game is going

[ReindeerMan]

Who whoa whoa.. All this nonsense with what to get People.. There is no need for mana pots or even Runes of Blight. of course, If you have the gold. why not.

Pyromancer, just like almost any hero, should start by increasing over all stats. Talisman of Exile. Its the second cheapest Intiation item. Personally, I play Pyro like this..

X1 Talisman of Exile at start, I pick up the AE stun.

I will bounce my skills from Fervor, and stun until ult, then get wave. You want to burn through all your mana early game with wave + Stun.. Fine. Blow your money on pots and runes, Place yourself in danger. Negative good sirs.

Stun, Auto attack 2 times back it up and creep kill.
Repeat
Repeat
By now.. your enemy is low on hp, out of stones, out of bottle charges, leaving lane and flustered. He cant get a hit on you. All the sudden.. Its Stun + Ult and you have a dead WHOEVER in your lane. 90% of the players here are greedy, and only 25% will admit that. Take your time.. take first blood when you can, its no race. As for late game pyro Item wise, Id build like this. .

X1 Talisman
at first return to base, X2 Talismans and Marchers.
At next back if possible, Marchers to STR Steamboots
At next back Staff of Master.
From this point, you should be doing an 1150 ult. Simple because I enjoy survivability, and depending on my teamies builds/abilities. Totem of Kuldra or Nullstone. As pyromancer, being stunned or ulted on is dangerous. Null stone helps with that.

The extra run speed you get from Enhanced Marchers is Null compared to the +10 str and the run speed from Steamboots. Just learn where to run, and you dont need enhanced.

-ReindeerMan

P.S. I know you are too lazy to fetch my stats Reader, So ill post them.

PSR: 1589
Total Games: 172
Wins: 91
Losses: 77
Win %: 54%

Disconnects: 4
Leaver: 2%

Kills: 914
Deaths: 298
Assists: 1000
Ratio: 3.1 : 1

AVERAGES
Game Length: 37M 23S
K 5.3 D 1.7 A 5.8
Creep Kills: 74
Creep Denies: 2
Total Exp: 18,223
Exp/Min: 487.4

[Dio]

The reason why people don't go a bracer, soulscream or talisman first is because you give up any form of regen and the money per stat is way higher. I don't know the exact calculations out of my head, but I don't advise going one of those first and rather get some cheap starting items.

[kslghost]

Portal Key is a good item for Lina in highly competitive games. If you're just starting out, focus on getting some stats and the Hex staff. It's a smart idea to be able to do something late in team battles and a hex on their carry can really change the game if you're unable to stay in battle very long. Plus, in a gank situation, you can combo and hex, get ahead and combo again.

[Vodka]

Reindeerman gets kills and doesn't win games against people who can't dodge pyro's stun or harrass him out of lane since he has no regen. Pro.

Seriously, you have to be soloing against the most incompetent people in the game if they can't harrass you out of lane.....

[pilf]

Sooooo much fail in this thread.

Edit: You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.


You failed.

Dagger and bottle are her only core items (except any kind of boots). The other items depend on her farm and the players choice.
Other items can be:

Steamboots or Post Haste (i'd prefer Post Haste but 203 Mana and 5 Armor for 1500 gold is a great deal anyway)
You can also stick with normal boots when you have the portal key. But then you need any source of mp.

Sacrificial Stone (not the best choice since the nerf but solves your mana issues and has a nice build-up. Start with boosters first (icon of goddess) and get Sustainer last)

Totem of Kuldra (mana mana mana AND damage. You can never have enough disables in your team)

Frostfield Plate

Hellflower (you might get this but you shouldnt. Hex >>> silence and youre not here for physical attacks anyway)


And don't get Staff of the Master. It just delays your other items and gives you nothing. That slight damage boost for your ult isnt worth the price.


And Reindeermans itemsbuild fails too.
Starting withou reg items? wtf?
Building up a quick Staff of the Master? double wft?
And if youre gettin Steamboots then grab those 203 free mana! Don't leave them on STR. Get bracers for the HP.
Seems like youre the typical "LET ME SOLO MID I WIN THIS" guy. Mediocre for yourself. Bad for your team.

And again: pyro = doublelane. Dont lane him solo if possible. (i know he can but he shouldnt. Especially if the enemy has a strong solo-mid on their side)

[Shadowcamsy]

There seems to be a lot of varied theories from people, so just to make you more confused I'll post my Pyro strat xD

If you have some dota experience I highly suggest downloading some 6.62b replays and watching some good Lina Inverse games. Other than that if you know anyone psr 1800+ you can ask them if they can make a game for you to watch them play Pyromancer.

Pyro isn't the easiest of heroes to play, as you probably know by now, his delayed stun is hard to land and he's very fragile, combined with the fact that you have to last hit with his attack animation to get his full effectiveness. It's because of this that I recommend you don't go mid to start off with, it is a much harder lane for so many reasons. Instead head bot for Legion, top for Hellbourne, and try and lane with a double nuker like Pebbles/Glacius/Valkyrie/Torturer. This makes your lane very comfortable to play in so you can practice last hitting when creeps are on low life and harassing when they're on full life. You should be aiming to wave 2 creeps so you kill them, with the wave hitting 1 or more of your opponents.

as soon as you're level 9 you can start farming creep waves, your first item should be bottle (buy stat items and regen with starting gold, thought I would clarify) and post-haste. This is because Pyro is a great farmer, he can use 2 spells on short cooldown to kill an entire creep wave. Make sure you auto attack every creep in the wave before you cast both your spells, otherwise you might miss a last hit. When your ultimate is off cooldown you should be watching the map to see if there are any targets to gank.

With Post-haste you should find it a lot easier to farm your totem (buy blessed orb first, then mana regen, then the staff, spending 2.7k gold on +25int makes you a viable target for your opponents because of your low health). After totem, depending on your team line-up you may want portal key, maybe bkb if the enemy has insane amount of nukes/disables, or maybe Geometer's bane if you want to remove a debuff from yourself and dish out some dps. If the game starts going past the 45 minute mark it's going to get progressively worse for you, so aim to finish the game early. Nonetheless if it does go up to that stage you will probably want to start focusing on team buff/debuff items like frostfiled plate and daemonic breastplate or restoration stone.

[rockchalk]

Buy a courier at the start.
Buy talisman of exile parts(forget the +3 intel name + pretenders crown, dont get recipe yet) and some mana pots/runes of the blight.

farm a bottle as quickly as possible and have the courier bring it to you so you don't miss out on xp/gold by leaving your lane.

if you are going to use spells to kill creeps as previously stated - do not spam them and hit an enemy hero with them.

I am not entirely sure about build order after the fervor change, but when I play pyro, my skill build looks something like this.

1. dragonfire - you need a disable to avoid getting killed when going for a rune
2. wave
3. wave
4. fervor
5. wave
6. ult
7. fervor
8.wave
9. fervor
10. fervor(I max fervor before dragonfire mainly because it makes the stun 10x easier to hit, and although the damage boost on dragonfire is good.. a more reliable stun will bring more to the table in a team fight.
11. ult
12-14. dragonfire
15.stats
16. ult
17-25. stats

Again, I am not sure of the ideal build since the fervor change, nor am i certain this was the ideal build before the change, but this is what I go.

When you gank, you should have marchers and a bottle. land a stun, wave, drink bottle, and ult. The bottle needs to be used almost simultaneously with the wave to ensure you are within range for an ult when you have the mana.

item build - steam boots on str
talisman of exile/fortified bracelets x2
totem of kuldra/staff of the master - if your team has many disables, I would suggest staff of the master, as it is now cheaper. If you find your team lacking disables, totem of kuldra is one of the best, as it also gives you very good mana regen.

edit - if you do not solo mid, some very good lane combos include magmus, hammerstorm, behemoth, really any double disable lane with melee/range is a decent lane.

[Verix]

You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.

...

Idiot.

[Benkle]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it appears as if a lot of the posters have missed what the OP was really asking. While the above discussion is valid, if his problems are at level 15, I doubt modifying his initial items is going to help a lot.

It sounds more like he is asking questions along the line of this thread:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26644

I am still more or less in this stage too so I cant give that much help, but what I would suggest:
Learn what other heroes can do (play RD/SD/AR games and try them all out). This should give you more confidence on when to go in/stay back.
Try and be near other heroes when they die. Exp is gained based on distance not damage done.
I am finding it helpful to follow these (assuming I am ganking and not farming as a carry) 3 questions. Is there a hero to kill? Is there a Lane to farm? Go neutral. Just so i spend less time standing around wondering wtf to do.

Good Luck.

[oSoM]

Edit: You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.

you obviously have never seen a good pyro with dagger.

[Kzanu]

Yeah... yesterday I saw my first good Pyro with Portal Key. I was Swift and I died in 2 secs(he had codex too). It was like blink-> waaaah-> swoosh-> ziiip-> spank-> dead -> "Son, I am dissapoint"

So yeah, it works.

[Enreign]

Blink is a 2000 gold distraction from Totem of Kuldra and Sacrificial Stone.

Any skilled Pyro can land her stuns fine without a Blink, and in any high level play, the enhanced farm of Sacrificial Stone and the essential disable of Totem are both much much much more important than a crutch for poor skills.

And if a Pyro blinked onto me as Swiftblade I'd just Frenzy his face into an Ult.

[ReindeerMan]

Reindeerman gets kills and doesn't win games against people who can't dodge pyro's stun or harrass him out of lane since he has no regen. Pro.

Seriously, you have to be soloing against the most incompetent people in the game if they can't harrass you out of lane.....

Not that I need to defend against this mild version of an insult, but truly, Pyro's stun is not hard to dodge, Nor is it to have a little foresight into your enemies moves. I guess people dont understand that your mana regen is based off of your total INT. Meaning, the more INT, the more Regen. So getting stats, gives you a Non item based form of increased regeneration. Not much, Of course not. Im only here to hold the lane, get exp until 6, then ult my opposition out of the lane. Nuff said.

And second, You must be from DoTA. HoN is a team game, 1 person does not win a game. Sure.. There was that game one time back in the past where you lead the team to victory.. Few and far between those games are young skywalker. Now quit making me berate you like Yoda would. I play a great pyromancer, and if late game, much like the OP is having trouble with, Pyro begins to fail, then its up to the rest of the team to fill their roles, and bring the game to a victory. I win 50% of my games, Thats entirely respectable, seeing as I picked up HoN and ran without any DotA exp.

There was another post down the line that someone mentioned my name, And ill disregard it. Because he lacked any true insight into my post. Anyone can say Fail, explain it and people will listen. Any of you are welcome to IM me and play me and mine.

And to the OP- At 15 + when your skills are lacking the punching power they did at the 25 minute mark, I suggest working with your teamies, and nuking the ones that are lower on life. 1 less hero can make all the difference on the field. Most people build for damage and regen, Just pay attention to the enemy heroes inventory. Find out who you can do the most to, and call it out.

IE. Moon Queen is doing 250 dmg, per hit. Has Staff of Master and is crushing everyone. But she is running with 1300 Life. And no magic armor. Stun, Ult. Good bye MQ.

[Mud`kip]

Who whoa whoa.. All this nonsense with what to get People.. There is no need for mana pots or even Runes of Blight. of course, If you have the gold. why not.


Noobs shouldn't try to help new players. Reindeerman obviously plays noob only games. If you don't play against absolute beginners they will harrass you and you won't be so lucky that you can rune whore every 2 minutes a regen rune, so what are you doing without reg items early on? Srsly learn to play and then give newbies some help.

[Hippie]

I'm just posting because Reindeer is hilarious.

There are two possible situations here:

1. He's a troll and knows he's a moron, which makes it hilarious that you guys are responding to him and freaking out so badly.

2. He really doesn't buy regen, meaning he'll be hilariously easy to outlane if I ever run into him in game. Also, he says that HoN is a team game and DotA wasn't. I'm confused.

So either way, hilarious.

[Czech0]

Reindeer = My hero and a great teacher.

Lesson of the day. Always check your opponents items. If they have no regen items then nuke their ass. They will QQ all the way back to the fountain.

Its important to always keep an eye on what they have. You don't want to waste your nukes on someone who has magic armor or under estimate somones range when they have port key.

[stX3]

reindeer you said you never played dota but started Hon.. so you as a NEWB are trying to help another rookie(note you beeing the newb he beeing the rookie)

stop arguing with ppl that clearly knows better than you and stop trying to teach other ppl stuff that are .. ye well ... CRAP builds

for the OP i havent realy got anything for you that havent been said before. after lvl 15-16(lategame) pyro like most other Int chars loose power and str / specialy Agi should have their farm to carry you rest of game if you support with stun+kuldra, thats why they are called carries

[Boves]

Sooooo much fail in this thread.

I usually start with 2x Minor Totems 2x Mana Pots 1x Tangoes and whatever Mantle of Intelligence is in this game.

Progression after this is Bottle, Marchers

then 2x talisman

then i usually build sac stone or kuldra

Edit: You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.

Sooooooooo much fail in this post.
Your builds are way off, look at other posts, this is a terrible build, especially for new players.
Edit: You're retarded if you don't know what game you're playing.

[Mud`kip]

Portal Key on Pyro is great. Period. Same as it is on Pebbles.

[Enreign]

but he's right.
Not getting dagger on Pyro is just stupid.


"Any skilled Pyro can land her stuns fine without a Blink"
Lolmyass.
What about that: "any skilled player can dodge Pyros stun"
And thats a fact. His casting animation is just too long so dagger is a must.

Take a look @ dota: Pros even buy Dagger on Lion. And his stun has much greater AOE and shorter cast-time than linas stun!

So EVERY good player can dodge your stupid Pyro-Stun if you don't have a dagger.


Just accept it: Portal Key on Pyro is core.
If you don't need it then youre obviously only playing against noobs.
I could not disagree more tbh.

Lina is not an initiator - she finishes. In proper teamplay you should have initiators that allow you to land your stun undisputed and keep them chainstunned/chaindisabled. Try blinking in during any teamfight without proper initiation and you'll find yourself quickly dead before having ever released your combo. Portal Key's (limited) use can only be found in ganking, where you can close distances to either get to the scene faster or finish off chases. You should be able to utilize fog of war to be able to pop out with the element of surprise and drop a stun.

Even if your animation is long, so what? With proper animation cancelling, you can utilize that animation to your advantage - ie, dropping a stun on an opponent's escape route, and cancelling when they double back to avoid it. You have now made your opponent stay in an unfavourable situation, while still having your powerful nuke at your disposal.

If we're going to be talking about noob play, I'd argue that 90% of all Portal Key Pyromancer kills come from noob hard carries ricing by themselves in a lane 20 minutes into a game.


Portal Key on Pyro is great. Period. Same as it is on Pebbles.
But I totally agree with Portal Key on Pebbles. He's a tank and an initiator.

Everything Pyromancer isn't.

[ReindeerMan]

I'm just posting because Reindeer is hilarious.

There are two possible situations here:

1. He's a troll and knows he's a moron, which makes it hilarious that you guys are responding to him and freaking out so badly.

2. He really doesn't buy regen, meaning he'll be hilariously easy to outlane if I ever run into him in game. Also, he says that HoN is a team game and DotA wasn't. I'm confused.

So either way, hilarious.

This doesnt deserve a heartfelt response. I suggest you re-read my posts. You clearly find it amusing.

Every game whether it be DoTA or HoN has veterans, asshats, trolls and know-it-alls. But the game also has a hundred opinions for every character build, item choice or strategy. I just popped my build into a pyro, with a few other items. 19-1 with 15 assists. All im saying is, My build is not horrid. You think you can outlane me, Well, your more than welcome to try. And with that, you can bash all the posts you want, but im in game waiting.

Im not on a pyromancer help post talking sh*t. :)

[feedtheid]

You advocated no regen or mana regen items. What do you expect?

[nakke]

i can totaly agree with the portal key, yes portal key not dagger. i never played dota, so i started playing noob games where it is easy to get a stun on cause they have no clue what you are doing. But any decent player will see your stun animation and dodge it.

[ReindeerMan]

You advocated no regen or mana regen items. What do you expect?

Define Regen? Seriously look..

Pyromancer starts with a .97 Base mana regen and a .79 base HP regen.

If I get a Talisman of Exile, I boost my Mana regen to 1.21. Im also gaining a small amount of armor and HP regen via the spread of stats.

So, You only have ~600 gold to start with, lets say I just wanted to go for a scarab ring for mana regen, that puts it up to a 1.46 mana regen. A whopping. .25 more mana regen. Then again, I have less life this way, less armor this way.

Ok, I could get a bottle. using a bottle allows you to stay in your lane. Sure, If your opposition is retarded and doesnt want to harass you knowing your USING A BOTTLE. You talk of playing against noobs.. Make him spam the bottle, its not hard. I have a solid, constant increased regneration compared to you. I guess what I want you to do, Is tell me how getting increased stats early is a bad thing. I am teaching several players this play style in the games I play. My win ratio is climbing, because players that I teach, are playing with me. And we are winning. Maybe I gotta be pro DoTA to understand where iM wrong. And if thats the case, so be it. See you on the field.

-ReindeerMan

[Disease1]

hehe, looks like reindeer knows what he is talking about. I'm going to try his build. Sounds smart. I always went with wave before. But how he puts it, sounds smart. But question, what if the person we are laning against is like polly and harrasses?

[Enreign]

hehe, looks like reindeer knows what he is talking about. I'm going to try his build. Sounds smart. I always went with wave before. But how he puts it, sounds smart. But question, what if the person we are laning against is like polly and harrasses?
Please don't.

I actually took a look at his posts to see what the fuss was about. This guy is bad and spreading bad advice.

1) Why would you get Talisman first and nothing else? For someone who is so concerned about boosting stats, don't you understand that you should not waste 150 of your valuable starting gold on a recipe that provides no stat bonuses whatsoever? Recipe items are so you can carry more with your limited six item slots. If you don't need to buy a recipe (so you can carry other items), then you shouldn't get a recipe! Even if you were going for a no regen build (which I don't advocate), why would you not go 2x Pretender's Crown and 1x Mark of the Novice, giving you +4/+4/+7 over a Talisman's +3/+3/+6?

2) Rushing Staff of the Master? For what? Pyromancer is one of the worst heroes to get Staff on. It costs 4300 for a 200 dmg boost - that's it. A Codex Level 1 costs 2850 and does 400 dmg. Do the math yourself. Never get a Staff of the Master on Pyromancer - it's useless.

3) Your entire idea of waiting it out until Level 6 to ulti your way into lane dominance is facile. Most solo mid heroes with regen can and will nuke you out of lane every time. If you're Pyromancer with nothing but a Talisman, I can guarantee any Thunderbringer will Blast Lightning your head off by level 3. Your ult+stun combo isn't even a good one - with no levels in Wave you might as well not bother. Level 6, you'll be doing 660 damage with a hard-to-land stun, which isn't enough to kill most heroes naked, much less carrying + stat items. A hero like Succubus just needs to left-click on you for a guaranteed Level 6 kill.

And finally, don't claim that you're not talking **** when you start your first post with

Who whoa whoa.. All this nonsense with what to get People
You really don't know what you're talking about and I feel bad for the people you're apparently "teaching".

[Benkle]

No one is arguing that the increase in stats is not good at the beginning ReindeerMan, the point that people are trying to get across is that by increasing the stats your way there is very little money left for consumables. To elaborate:
Talisman: 485
3x Minor Totem + Mark of the Novice: (53 x3 + 150) = 309
These give the exact same stats, except you save about 30% of your initial money allowing you to buy runes and mana potions to help you stay in lane longer.

[Kholat]

If you think Pyromancer without a blink dagger is bad, let me direct you to:

MATCH ID: 3180410 (26-2)

[dune]

Wow, necrothread.

[PerfectBlue]

Start with:
X2 minor totem, x1 Mana potion, x1 Rune, mark of the novice, and crushing claws (assuming courier was picked up)

then: Bottle->Boots->Post Haste->Portal Key-> Kuldra, game should be over by then



Go mid and Aim for 20 creep kills by 4 minutes, and 40 by 10 minutes

[Glorify1]

:RunesOfTheBlight::RunesOfTheBlight::ManaPotion::M anaPotion::MinorTotem::MinorTotem:

:WardOfSight: or :Courier:

[Dr`Delicious]

And if a Pyro blinked onto me as Swiftblade I'd just Frenzy his face into an Ult.

How about if you were Demented Shaman? Or Forsaken Archer? Or someone else who wasn't magic immune and easy mode?

Blink on Pyro isn't a good learning item, but its pretty strong once you've grasped his play style and skills. I'd go with:

Steamboots if they have nukes/AoE
Plated Greaves if they have physical/carries

Bottle

One or two Bracers

Storm Spirit (since its easier to farm until you have the grasp of it)

Totem of Kuldra, because its one of the best items in the game

If you can farm these without killstealing heroes or gimping out your carry, you're doing it right. Takes practice!

[Control`]

6xRunes, 1 manapot, 3 minor totems

courier/wards

boots, powersupply, bottle, steamboots, blink, blessed orb into kuldra/nullstone if you are dominating.

[Phogue]

You're retarded if you think Lina should get blink dagger.
This isnt dota.

[RogerDodger]

:RunesOfTheBlight: :RunesOfTheBlight: :ManaPotion: :ManaPotion: :MinorTotem: :MinorTotem:

:WardOfSight: or :Courier:
Anything else is stupid

[Typhus]

:RunesOfTheBlight::RunesOfTheBlight::ManaPotion::M anaPotion::MinorTotem::MinorTotem:

:WardOfSight: or :Courier:

This is the way to build pyro at lvl 1. Anything else is pretty dumb.

Then its on to bottle, power supply, talisman/bracelet x2 marchers.

I prefer steamboots for the survivability.

Also the guy saying portal key pyro is not for high level play is clearly clueless. In the vVv finals between between LOAD and 5 portal key pyro was used by each team in game each as far as i remember. Clearly it must only be good for bad pyromancers. Combined with wards its great for picking people off.

[Desodesto]

maybe start with a bottle and ask your mates if you can go to the middle lane solo.

Never start any char with a bottle, get a few stat improvement item and healing items. You can courier a bottle to you later if you are having mana issure.