I like Accursed, but I dont

[Corbie1]

So ive been playing Accursed recently and I really like him...for most of the match.

The issue I have with him is that once you hit the late game he becomes a big teddy bear. His heal/nuke is weak, his fire shield only absorbs a single auto-hit, his slow is still nice but not exactly uber.. and his ult..while still good, it only allows you to live a little bit longer before getting pwned..thanks to the amount of CC and damage being thrown around.

But the early and mid game are a blast.. being able to soak up tons of damage... leading the charge in fights.. he is great.

So now what im trying to figure out is if there are any other heroes I should consider that can achieve that same level of early/mid game tank dominance...while still being effective in the late game.

Jera comes to mind.. but im hoping there might be other options.

Im not looking to carry or be an offensive threat..i like tanking and I like support.. im only averaging a couple kills with Accursed..but i always have double digit assists and thats how I like it.

Any advice is welcome.

[ClownFoot]

hmmm... jeraziah is a pretty much the closest to what you want. theres also armadon, but with the recent inclusion on the mana battery he's extremely weak.

something that is a little off-beat that you might want to consider. devourer is an amazing tank/support. you are also one of the strongest early game heroes. early game consists of you ganking like a mofo and inspiring terror, late game you are one of the beefiest tanks.

i havent played much since the most recent patch though, but im assuming the changes make playing a tank rather suicidal

[Corbie1]

Well early and mid game with Accursed it was great... hell a friend of mine when Jera and together we were able to end one match on a single push up the mid. They just couldnt stop us.

Im really not a big fan of Jeraziah... dunno why.. just dont care for his look or his ability selection. I may just have to suck it up and learn to like him if im gonna be an effective tank though.

Anyway.. in regards to the first reply.. my build late game usually involves Abyssal Skull, Boots, 1-2 fortified bracelets, and then either Behemoth Heart, or maybe barbed armor and a shamans headdress.

[dune]

Accursed is played best as a support. Therefore he will get less effective in the late game. However, if you think about it, you can give your carry 500 HP easily with two abilities and if you have an Astrolabe you can make that total 750. Not a value to be snubbed at any stage in the game!

[LordSkeletor]

You might like legionnaire. He's got good tanking ability, helps damage with spin and draws fire from teammates with taunt. Taunt is also fast enough to interrupt magmus' stun > ult combo. He may not have a heal but I think he brings a lot to the fight.

[Cornballer]

Yeah legionnaire is pretty good as a tank at almost every stage of the game. (at least in pub) He can make people attack him, and then he does even more damage while he's getting attacked. This also allows your teammates to get off some damage without being targeted, while you don't die because of your insane armor and hp regen. Not to mention that he practically has a 600 damage nuke to finish off the runners.

[evotech]

Midgame -> lategame, start building up some damage

[guppy]

with accursed, I usually get lots of tanking items, late game you should have farmed up enough to change the tanking to dps easily enough. Usually symbol of rage, 2x doom bringers 1 flayer and boots is enough to take out a team, add a runed axe if you like or a demonic breastplate/wingbow (I personally get a totem)

early/mid game I get a
astrolabe
Barrier Idol
Whispering Helm
Post haste

and this along with your shield and good last hitting will allow you to farm up the doombringer\s & or symbol of rage

with you dealing 400 damage a hit and you being a tank you should be able to kill 1-2 people easily and still not be scared of their team.

This is all presuming though that this is easy mode.

I was in a 70 minute non easymode game and I got these end game items but accursed is retardedly broken when farmed.

[KARTlK]

Stop playing em.

[`Entice]

Electrician is an excellent tank, and at any point in the game a 4.75 sec stun is ridiculous. :)

[Shadowcamsy]

The idea of accursed is to push mid game and win before you enemy late game heroes get items. He's typically seen in pusher teams like hellbringer + defiler + tempest. If he gets astrolobe he has 3 effective heals which is unrivalled amongst support heroes, not only that, but the only item he needs is astrolobe and boots, leaving your defiler to get sac stone early, and hellbringer to get refresher early, along with tempest having his portal key means you win.

[Toryama]

You should try out Kraken. My favorite all time hero in which he's strong all game and a great initiator.

[Sheapy1]

Devourer comes to mind if you're pretty good. Once you get a SotM you will just rape ass.
Shamans Headress, Marchers, SotM. Your ult will take off around 750 damage at level 16, combine that with rot and hook and you can easily pick off agi/int heroes at that portion of the game as that damage is all magical (not sure about hook). You're still a tank, but you can dish out pretty heavy damage. With SotM you also get back 100% of the damage you deal. With a relatively low CD, you can hook someone to initiate, charge in with rot and just devour someone couple of seconds later to regen all the HP you lost from attacks.

[_Archangel_]

With Accursed, if you go items like Astrolabe and Ring of Sorcery you can own early-mid, and support your teammates hard. Act as a walking, tanking fountain for them, and let them do the damage.

[CronoDroid]

Anyway.. in regards to the first reply.. my build late game usually involves Abyssal Skull, Boots, 1-2 fortified bracelets, and then either Behemoth Heart, or maybe barbed armor and a shamans headdress.

Abyssal Skull is a fairly mediocre item, you can get it if you want but you shouldn't need it.

"Maybe" Shaman's Headdress should be "Definitely" Shaman's Headdress, it is the ideal tank item for every tank hero. Make this into a Barriel Idol.

Then like people have said, Astrolabe is another useful item.

If you find you're making lots of money or just end up having a lot and don't know what to spend it on, Frostfield Plate is another item that increases survivability and has a nice slow on it which is nice with your passive slow (Sear).

Behemoth's Heart is also a lot weaker now, I would get Symbol of Rage instead, but as a luxury only.

Finally, Shruken Head will negate all magic damage and most spells, if you're REALLY lacking survivability there is probably no better item, it protects against stuns, slows, nukes and everything in between.

I don't believe you should ever aim to be a DPS'er like some people have said. Your job is not to DPS, if it is late game and you don't have a DPS'er you failed during mid game to end it before the enemy got too powerful. Accursed is plenty good as a tank, especially with Flame Consumption. It's your job to get focused because it means your carries can do the damage. Otherwise, end it earlier.

[Glorify1]

Axe is strong all the way up to ~60 minutes.

[Llama]

Accursed does really drop off lategame, when the heals are pathetic, the shield is only good for removing debuffs, so the only thing to do after using your heals/disables is grab a brutaliser and run up to their caster/carry and try smack them silly

Nymph makes a much better early pusher, albeit she is squishy as heck

[ImpBloody]

I dont know if you would like my build because you said that you dont like offensive but everyone who plays with me seems to like it. I build my accursed like this.

I buy boots with runes of blight before i get anything then 1 lvl of searing blade. This provides for a good speed boost and helps you take advantage early game of your opponents. after you get to lvl 2 you can be alittle more agressive because you have a lvl of flame shield. I typically wait on his nuke because in reality im more of a person who rushes into battle rather then one who likes to nuke. so all the way up to lvl 9 ill finish searing blade and fire shield. By this point i have my wispering helm to go with phase boots and the helm portion of insanitarius. The reason i go this way instead of what the suggestions say are because with the increased speed of your attack from searing blade and damage when you get insanitarius you will almost be doing 220 a hit at a pretty insane attack speed. By level 11 you should have insanitarius finished, you can go one of two ways you can get hack and slash, or go for symbol or rage. I go for hack and slash because people say its kinda weak but it does give you extra movespeed and hp with the ability to slow them, and when you are attacking fast enough, you notice it procs quite a bit. Once your done with hack and slash finish the symbol of rage and you dont die alot really anymore. If they have alot of stuns and magic, i usually wait on hack and slash and get a shrunken head, but this way works really well against players like night hound and magebane. Make sure to activate insanitarius dont worry wispering helm will lifesteal enough that the insanitarius wont even make a difference in your life. The last item i tend to go for is daemonic breastplate, with the negitive armor buff, its quite good and will give you all the attack speed you need, if you are at this point, you should have been pushing and have either lost or already won, because i usually only get to the hack and have won or lost.

But i find this is the best build for me because you dont really need astrolube if you can life steal it back, and this hero is insane if played correctly, but you can play however you want :)

[kuru1]

Finally, Shruken Head will negate all magic damage and most spells, if you're REALLY lacking survivability there is probably no better item, it protects against stuns, slows, nukes and everything in between.



Shrunken Head is about the worst item you can get on a tank. You WANT to be nuked, stunned, slowed, and everything in between so those spells aren't being used on your carries/casters.

[Shadowcamsy]

Sorry to nitpick, but....




I buy boots with runes of blight before i get anything then 1 lvl of searing blade.


Never ever buy boots as a first item on any hero (except swiftblade and only if you're paired with the right heroes) it is a waste of starting gold which you need for lane control.




i usually wait on hack and slash and get a shrunken head, but this way works really well against players like night hound and magebane.


Shrunken head is not a good item for a tank, you want the enemy to use their cooldowns on you rather than your carry heroes.




But i find this is the best build for me because you dont really need astrolube if you can life steal it back


Astrolobe is to heal everyone around you and not just yourself the 250 heal + armor + aoe health regen is extremely good for pushing, it effectively nullifies one of your enemies aoe spells, if you get barrier idol as well you're nullifying 3 of your opponents spells.

Accursed isn't played as a carry in high level games because there are a lot better carrys out there, like madman/predator/valkyrie who all scale better with dps items than accursed.

[Puggles]

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[Netivee]

Accursed, ftw. All there is to say.

[Bobdoyle]

Get Abyssul Skull, Ring of Socery, and Astrolabe you'll be fine

[Suttungr]

If you like supporting rather than killing, Accursed is your option, if you want to kill Impblood's build is good. If you want to be a good support you should forget about late game, at late its time for carriers to shine, if you did a good job they will win the match.

Support Accursed:
. Max Shield and Heal spell, getting in lvl 6 your ult. then searing blade (which you should use it for the slow and the buff on allied carriers when attacking your target)
. Items:
- Stg steamboots for survival o switch to INt for spells.
- Get Cyclone staff (WHAT?) Because it gives you a disable which will help in team fights or will save your carriers. Also it gives you more MS and all the mana regen you will need.
-Astroblade for more health replenish because your heal spell turns to be a little useless with every passing minute.

Then, the match should be ending, you can go for Behemoths hearth or better: Demonic breastplate or even better: Shiva's Guard (dont remember its name) IF you plan to go for shiva's you should skip Ciclone stick and go directly for astroblade.

PD: That item which gets charges when an enemy casts an spell is a MUST here.

When supporting your main goal is to help survive your carriers and teammates, if someone is going down ITS YOU.

the main reason for not getting many HP items its because accursed tends to be ignored in team fights because it doesnt have very damaging spells or something like that and because of its ulti when you ult CAST HEAL OR DMG like crazy because it will heal you, besides think of manual trigger your ult when tanking a tower just for the heal.

Im making a support guide, so if you like supporting, stay tuned. =D happy supporting