Tiny UI (Last Update: 24.10.09)

[FreshM]

This thread is no longer being updated.
Please download the mod here (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39852).


Tiny User Interface

This modification reduces the ingame interface by removing unnecessary textures and panels
while compressing useful information into less space to increase vision.

Every panel with a golden arrow can be toggled concerning appearance or sight.
Included two minimap sizes, toggle basic char information and 0,3 or 6 slot inventory visible.

It is a real interface mod, it doesnt add things, it replaces.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/fresh_morgoth/hon%20stuff/shot00322.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/fresh_morgoth/hon%20stuff/shot00323.jpg

Version:
1.14 (24.10.09)


Updated for HoN Version 0.1.50.1

1.13 (08.10.09)


Stats window improvements (transparent, click through, pop-up info only on picture mouse over

1.12 (08.10.09)


Added HP and MP bars below the skill buttons (toggle sight)
Added "tiny" character potrait in the bottom middle
Concentrated panels in bottom middle
Increased the brightness and color range of the on-portrait-lvl-up-effect
Enhanced some tool tips
Got rid of unnecessary code

1.11 (05.10.09)


Added proper button scaling with and without colorblind and quick command mod
Added automatical variable creation
Fixed missing Lifetime bar for summonings

1.10 (03.10.09)


Fixed most compability issues
Added custom sizable Minimap via slider (credits to barter for slider code)
Reworked toggle mechanics
Added save function for all sliders and toggle buttons

1.0 (29.09.09)


Initial Release


Modifies ui/game.interface

Known Issues:
- Incompatible with:


any game.interface modification (standalone)
Automatic Ability Learner (v1.0)

- Subskills destroy the proper position of the lvlup buttons


In Development:
- Subskill sensitivity
- Custom Minimap position
- Cosmetic Improvement


Commentary:
- atm I'm only updating the .honmod version; reasons:


I want to support the mod manager
everyone who wants to use this mod alone can also use the modman ( even if it is only for this one mod)
whoever wants to configure and combine this mod with others can access the code without problems from the .honmod file

- please post any suggestion you find notable in this thread, if I like it or many people support your idea I will implement it (if possible and without promising a certain deadline)


Download and Installation - Standalone Version (v1.10)
Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/liwiwnjmm0m/resources053.s2z)
To install, put the resources053.s2z file into the games folder game/ folder.

The default locations for these are:
Linux: /home/<username>/HoN/game/
Windows 7: C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\
Windows Vista: C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\
Windows XP: C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\
Mac:
1. Press Finder
2. Press Applications
3. Right click 'Heroes of Newerth', and press Show containing files
4. Open Game folder
5. Move file here


Download and Installation - Mod Manager Version (v1.14)
Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/lwm45ltwmzj/tinyui.honmod)
Mods (*.honmod files) go into the game\mods sub-directory of your HoN install (which will be created when you first launch the program). Any mod files in that directory that are compatible will automatically show up in the program.

The default locations for this directory are:
Windows: C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods
Linux: /home/<username>/HoN/game/mods
Mac:
1. Press Finder
2. Press Applications
3. Right click 'Heroes of Newerth', and press Show containing files
4. Open Game folder
5. Open mods folder
6. Move *.honmod files here
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This is the official modification 053 in the Modification Repository (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=7391) / Master Repository (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26059) !

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[FreshM]

you never know ...

[HEADHUNTERR]

no thanks =)

[Wha]

Looks great downloading now...Always wanted less clutter on the interface

[Elman1]

Seeing more through widescreen or UI mods is fine. Seeing more through bigger zoom level is not.

Yay!

[FreshM]

we will see if this is fine ^^
but keep in mind that reducin g the ui like i did means like ~cam distance 1670 instead of 1650 - big difference to 2000+ abuse

[Heliotic]

This looks awesome. it will be double plus awesome with a resizable minimap.

[Elman1]

we will see if this is fine ^^
but keep in mind that reducin g the ui like i did means like ~cam distance 1670 instead of 1650 - big difference to 2000+ abuse

2000+ abuse... Have you seen a comparison between widescreen and 4:3? And wth a mod like this Widescreen doesn't even have a tiny vertical disadvantage anymore.

Bah, but sorry, I'm derailing. Nice mod. I don't like minimalistic UIs myself, but many people do, and it looks nice :)

[FreshM]

i do understand your point.
and imho you are right, i am strongly against such a zoom lvl that was possible with the console commands.
well, but the only thing working with different resolutions would be letterbox mode or stretching and those are just ugly as hell
(anyway 4:3 monitors are dying - this is not a problem that will last ^^)

[twincannon]

Looks nice will try it when I get home.

How does the team UI and scoreboard look?

[FreshM]

for now scoreboard and team are the same
i figured there are enough good mods out there (battle of bard and barter :D) and they are already "toggleable" ^^

[Vadi]

Nice. Was thinking on making one myself for a couple of days now, will give this a try.

edit: your standalone one is really a honmod one. as much as that prog is nice, it's kinda crap under linux.

[Warchamp7]

Both links are to the honmod version

[FreshM]

ok dl link is fixed
game.interface is a bit messy in standalone but i marked edits with commentary - package structure is only existing in modman version

[spikernum1]

excellent for experienced players

[MaxGhost]

I'll change the mods that use the <interface> tag to place packages to use other packages which always stay in there instead.

Fixed Bard UI and Voip slider to work with this one now. I'll reupload them in a second.

[FreshM]

thx max ;)
i ll edit the issues ^^

[MaxGhost]

New bug: This doesn't work with automatic ability learner, because you change the ability button code.

Also will not work with Vadi's buff indicator mod, colorblind mod, and quickcommands mod.

[revanxp]

Love this mod but has a lot of incompatibility issues with other mods with hon mod manger. keep up the good work. I'll install it when it will be fixed

[Sonic_Boom]

hon modman links not workin

[FreshM]

@ sonic: works for me - plz check again

i will try to make as many mods compatible as possible for the next version on which i am working right now
we ll see how that goes ^^
but aal mod will be tricky to solve

[Sonic_Boom]

@ sonic: works for me - plz check again

i will try to make as many mods compatible as possible for the next version on which i am working right now
we ll see how that goes ^^
but aal mod will be tricky to solve

didnt work :(

[FreshM]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/y3u5k3unuld/tinyui.honmod

this is the url under which the mod is stored - common mediafire - i can download it and it is displayed in the server

have u tried another browser ? or perhaps you are using a download addon like e.g. flashgot that doesnt work with mediafire or malfunctions because of some wrong options entered ?

[Sonic_Boom]

ive downloaded everything from mediafire this is the error i get when i click the url

[GeForceFX]

This is one of the best mods EVER! Totally must have! But.. Can i remove the bottom right corner (the move,attack, etc box)?

[BlackICE]

move the yellow arrows to the edge of the screen and like GeForceFX said make the bottom right action box toggle-able also. If you (or anyone) could make a version that would integrate the buff-timers that would be amazing since the numeric timer is far superior to the ultra thin green border.

[ththu]

can you make it compatible with mod 016 - Colorblind Mod by Picklefish (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=159764) ?

i combined it but Tooltips not show? anyone help me? ><

[revanxp]

Didn't work. Getting this error:
http://i36.tinypic.com/rc3biq.png

[FreshM]

info box will be dealt with in the next version
colorblind, debuff, quick commands will be compatible (hopefully - i think i know how to work it)

[DoctorHellNo]

Really digging this UI, can't wait to see what other great features you are going to implement.

Keep up the good work!

[tef]

avatar on bottom of the screen is usefull to cast spell on your hero
can i swap minimap on right bottom corner?

[dankass]

Didn't work. Getting this error:
http://i36.tinypic.com/rc3biq.png

I also get this.

edit: i removed encyclopedia and i no longer get this error

[Sonic_Boom]

same

[Notausgang]

Are you using the latest version of the mod manager? There were some issue with break lines differences unix <-> windows.

[dankass]

yes I just downloaded it today

[Avi1231]

I'll try this mod when it works with VoIP Slider. Till then I'd rather have an easier time seeing who's talking.

[MaxGhost]

I'll try this mod when it works with VoIP Slider. Till then I'd rather have an easier time seeing who's talking.
They do work together. Colorblind, Buff mod, quick command, and aal don't work with it.

[Sonic_Boom]

it keeps saying voip slider doesnt so :| idk

[Avi1231]

it keeps saying voip slider doesnt so :| idk

Yeah, that's what I got aal, is the only one out of your list of four that I use and it didn't complain about that; just voip slider.

Perhaps you've done a new release of voip slider that I don't have MaxGhost? Checking now.

[MaxGhost]

Yeah I updated voip slider.

[Avi1231]

Yeah I updated voip slider.

Downloaded the latest version from the master repository and I try to enable and it says, "This mod is incompatible with "voipslider" v0.1.0. You cannot have both enabled at the same time." Is this not the latest version?

[MaxGhost]

You need to update tiny ui too then...

[Avi1231]

Okay, confirmed. If you want this mod to work in honmod format with voip slider you have to remove the incompatibility line and then it refuses to work with auto ablility leveler. The original modder is gonna have to rework it at some point if you want it to work with all your mods.

[HellishINC]

Yeah, removing that line does the trick.

[GeForceFX]

I think you can not deconstruct items with this mod. Am I the only one like that?

[FreshM]

next version is on its way
featuring:
- compability to colorblind and buff timer mod
- full scaleable mini map
- update of issue list and modman feature
- commandbox toggle

aiming still for saving feature and compability to aal - but prbly not in this version

[MaxGhost]

for aal compatibility, you can check one of the combo mods: someone figured out how to fix it.

I'd also like to see a version with minimap at the top left and unitframes at the bottom left (swapping option or something)

[FreshM]

@geforcefx:
looking into that atm ... can u deconstruct without the mod ?
i cant either way - even after clearing every modfile and cfg ... seems to be a game bug to me - we ll see

@maxghost:
will do - i guess combining them isnt a problem - but its way more difficult to write it accordingly for modman as we use similar lines in the game.interface
more options will come when every issue solution and my basic aimes are finished :D

[MaxGhost]

What you could do is make add-on versions of mods that aren't compatible so they can work directly with this mod.

[GeForceFX]

@geforcefx:
looking into that atm ... can u deconstruct without the mod ?
i cant either way - even after clearing every modfile and cfg ... seems to be a game bug to me - we ll see
Sorry. It was the game. After the .46 patch it's fixed. :)

[FreshM]

fixed most incompability issues
new links and changelog on page nr.1 ^^

[Tenshuu]

fixed most incompability issues
new links and changelog on page nr.1 ^^

I love the reduction of screen clutter, but I miss my HP/Mana bar on the bottom, if you could add a scalable pair of those that could be toggled and moved, that would be awesome. If you need help with moving the UI items around, take a look at Barter UI. Oh, and I kind of miss my gold being near bottom as well (Maybe another moveable UI element? Or a new element that pops into obvious position when buying stuff?)

The skill bar would be nice to toggle away as well, since it's almost as useful to me as the commands on the bottom right, after I skill a skill, i usually know my hotkeys.

Great work, I'm very impressed by this. =).

[Skunkjuice]

I love the mod but for some reason my mini-map disappears totally and I have no arrow to click on to show / hide it. It just isn't there - however if I or someone else pings where the mini-map would be it pings in the far bottom left corner.

Was this UI designed for wide-screen monitors only? I'm playing on a 22" flat panel.

Also, in-regards to what Tenshuu said, it would be great to have an HP/Mana bar under the skills pane. =)

[Tenshuu]

I love the mod but for some reason my mini-map disappears totally and I have no arrow to click on to show / hide it. It just isn't there - however if I or someone else pings where the mini-map would be it pings in the far bottom left corner.

Was this UI designed for wide-screen monitors only? I'm playing on a 22" flat panel.

Also, in-regards to what Tenshuu said, it would be great to have an HP/Mana bar under the skills pane. =)

I had same issue at one point, and then re-read the post. Click on the Sun/Moon wheel at top of screen, and it should pop back up.. click a few times if not.. Worked for me, and then I was able to scale it.

[opcon]

Good Job, although unfortunately it has incompatibilities with the Don't deselect mod:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=27622
You need to add an incompatibility reference.
Good mod though.

[MaxGhost]

The no deselect mod is a new one, not his fault for not knowing of it yet. He did have an incompatibility reference and still does, he'll probably add it/try to fix the incompatibility soon enough.

[Wha]

When I try to scale the minimap the button that toggles the colors or partners/enemy's dose not stay in the little circle where it should be, kinda sucks that part of top lane is covered by a circle

[FreshM]

most of the issues are mentioned in post nr.1 e.g.
Important: To create the variables this mod needs, click once on the Moon/Sun Wheel right under the game clock. This button can be used to reset your custom settings.
and
- Colorblind and Quick Command Mod Buttons may obtain adverse positions during scaling the Minimap
(This could be solved by the Mod's Creators by changing the Position Data to a relative Value e.g. in %)

for now it s like
functionality <--> compability
if those mods are changed the way i proposed in the near future - the problems will dissolve - otherwise i will start giving up compability and pick up maxghost's suggestion of combo mods (mostly for colorblind, because it is a noble mod imho)

€: damn those new mods ^^ yeah i ll have a look at the no deselect thing (although i think it might get disabled - working against game mechanics imho)

hmm and picklefish didnt convert the colorblind mod himself - i guess it may happen that i release a new tiny and a new colorblind .honmod to preserve compability and yet implement proper button scaling

[gwho1]

i love this so much... but it seems to have compatibility issues with other mods.

it won't work with the voice sliding tab mod,
nor the auto ability learning mod.

can anything be done about this?

here's one example of me having trying to activate auto ability learning and clicking save.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=451&pictureid=5631

[gwho1]

since most incompatibilities seem to be about a button not existing, perhaps a more broader solution to the incompatibility is to have all the undesired buttons and panels off-screen (to the top left, in case of widescreens) rather than gone. would this work?

[FreshM]

viop slider is working with tiny ui - try the newest viop slider version plz
aal is not working because it and tiny ui are using the same panels and both configure them so the search function will only bring one mod to its destination -> change it and thereby leave it unable to be found by the other mod
but as i said i will work on that, somehow aal will be compatible someday ^^

[MaxGhost]

FreshM if you can give me the correct position values for Colorblind and Quickcommands, I can fix them for you.

[Idejder]

Awesome. A+.

This is exactly the perfect reason we let you mod the interface. This is what I think we did way better then any other DotA-type game; We give the player control of the interface.

(to the author) Oh and you can use the SetSave command to save those cvars so you dont have to make people click the sun/moon dial.

Good job.

[Fuga]

post more pix pls?

[Ig0tyA]

When i try to apply mods with hon mod manager. Tiny UI makes a error "could not find string starting with "<!-- Mini map -->" as sought by game/mods/tinyui.honmod/mod.xml".

Would appreciate if any had a fix for this. Cause i like this addon!.

Regards

[MaxGhost]

Incompatible with Colorblind mod, quickcommands and AAL.

[FreshM]

the recent version is only incompatible with aal ! (at least i progged it this way and tested it sseveral times)
... and that other "persistant opponent hero information" thing as i heard

[gwho1]

woot woot congrats and kudos for working hard on the compatibility and aal the only issue =]

hmm, thats strange. i just redownloaded both tinyui and voip in in the modman version and they are still incompatible.

is the modman version not yet compatible or am i missing osmething?

[MaxGhost]

FreshM forgot to take out the incompatibility afaik.

[gwho1]

take out incompatibility? do you mean that the compatibility issue isn't actually fixed?

[NiGHTsC]

Awesome. A+.

This is exactly the perfect reason we let you mod the interface. This is what I think we did way better then any other DotA-type game; We give the player control of the interface.

(to the author) Oh and you can use the SetSave command to save those cvars so you dont have to make people click the sun/moon dial.

Good job.
@Idejder

Just wondering...
Is every piece of Interface customize-able, remove-able, scale-able and move-able?
like, can we remove everything to look like when we press F12?


Thank you :D

[gwho1]

there is also a conflict with vadi's buff/debuff mod.
the original buff icons are reallly small and don't take up a lot of space at all. there is no other way to tell your buff status in tiny UI (... is there?) maybe it is worth including the original buff icon instead of getting rid of them?

i love the partial scoreboard display. can you have it so that it remembers if u openned it partially? it's so that ppl who always use it in that way can have it open by default. good idea ? bad idea? i'm not quite sure myself.

[ugkbunb]

for some reason it won't show up in my hon mod manager list of mods... all the other mods show up and combine just fine... I am running it on linux under mono... dragging and dropping it onto the window states "tinyui.mod already exists" -- I have tried removing all the mods and just using this one and it stills doesn't show up on the list.

[gwho1]

i am posting so much on this thread b/c i love the tinyUI mod.

FreshM, idk how this would itneract with tinyui if a separate mod was made for it, but the idea is to display magical armor value as well as physical in that little black area.

please check out my idea #2 in this thread
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=382319#post382319
If it would be compatible with tiny UI if someone else made it, great. If not, maybe it would be cool to have it a direct part of tinyUI.


2) in the main area, it shows your attack, armor, movespeed and stats. But why does it only show physical armor rather and not show magical armor? b/c dota was restricted like that? HoN can and should move on. magical reduction is just as important as physical. a mod that takes black area that displays these four pieces of info, and adds the magical armor value as well.

options:
- display percentage reduction instead of armor and magical armor value.
- display all four values.

There may be an issue with fitting both in, but i'm sure it can be done since there is plenty of room to the right of the values in the black area i am talking about (with the 4 pieces of info)

Yes, there are other mods that display these info, but they become redundant and takes up more space on your screen.

I would especially love this in combination with the minimalist TinyUI by FreshM. It would be Ideal if HoN made magical armor standard UI. Even if they did tho, there would still be the need for a mod to allow for one to choose to dislpay percentage reduction rather than armor value.

[FreshM]

Awesome. A+.

This is exactly the perfect reason we let you mod the interface. This is what I think we did way better then any other DotA-type game; We give the player control of the interface.

(to the author) Oh and you can use the SetSave command to save those cvars so you dont have to make people click the sun/moon dial.

Good job.

thanks for the heads up ;)
i'm currently searching for a command similar to exist(variable) giving back 1 or 0 like i'm used to but haven't found it yet
by using the setsave command onload i would overwrite the values the variables already have if they exist and thereby users wouldn't be able to save their panel scaling and positioning (or can i create empty variables that won't override existing variable values ?) - well, i'm working on a possible solution, we'll see where it gets me


FreshM if you can give me the correct position values for Colorblind and Quickcommands, I can fix them for you.

already working on that myself - u'll receive a pm tomorrow with the updated versions so you can countercheck them and if everything fits - updat the repository


woot woot congrats and kudos for working hard on the compatibility and aal the only issue =]

hmm, thats strange. i just redownloaded both tinyui and voip in in the modman version and they are still incompatible.

is the modman version not yet compatible or am i missing osmething?

did you download the version 1.10 ? it's not updated yet in the repository afaik - the right link is in this thread within post nr.1


there is also a conflict with vadi's buff/debuff mod.
the original buff icons are reallly small and don't take up a lot of space at all. there is no other way to tell your buff status in tiny UI (... is there?) maybe it is worth including the original buff icon instead of getting rid of them?

i love the partial scoreboard display. can you have it so that it remembers if u openned it partially? it's so that ppl who always use it in that way can have it open by default. good idea ? bad idea? i'm not quite sure myself.

so what exactly is the issue here ?
vadi's mod should work with tiny concerning the buff icons on the mid bottom
if you are talking about the icons on the upper left - i removed those to get space for my additional bars

a save variable for partial scoreboard shouldn't be a problem
let me fix the major issues - then i'll browse this thread again for new ideas i can implement

[gwho1]

you do have a honmod version from your OP. many other mods only have the sz version link. sweet i'll dl and try it.

the issue was that in modmanager it says there is a conflict and wont' let me run both mods ( this is from using the version of tinyUI from the respository)

edit: i downloaded the new link and it is working excellently, i appreciate the work =].
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along with there not being any way currently with tinyUI to know your buff status,
there is someone that touched up your mod to allow indication of summoned units and dominated units and illusions.
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26975

*added a Label for the "lifetime" remaining for summons and other units with a definite lifetime in the Stats-panel.

[FreshM]

for some reason it won't show up in my hon mod manager list of mods... all the other mods show up and combine just fine... I am running it on linux under mono... dragging and dropping it onto the window states "tinyui.mod already exists" -- I have tried removing all the mods and just using this one and it stills doesn't show up on the list.

is modman and tiny ui up to date ? normally i get this error if i have a syntax mistake in mod.xml but at me (both newest version) i don't see a problem


i am posting so much on this thread b/c i love the tinyUI mod.

FreshM, idk how this would itneract with tinyui if a separate mod was made for it, but the idea is to display magical armor value as well as physical in that little black area.

please check out my idea #2 in this thread
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=382319#post382319
If it would be compatible with tiny UI if someone else made it, great. If not, maybe it would be cool to have it a direct part of tinyUI.


afaik u can display that with barters ui - but i'm supporting your point towards s2, it should be implemented in the default ui

[gwho1]

the only issue i have with bards buff display is that you can't "click through" them and give attack/move commands. all of barter's mod apps can be "clicked through"

but i guess that not having any display for your tinyUI isn't bad either, since you would want buff status display to be adjustable in position and size. someone that uses tinyUI mod would be familiar with using anther mod. in fact i think u are right in choosing to get rid of status altogether. good call.

i also agree with you agreeing with me that magical armor should be default =P. default would be the best way for compatibility issues with mods.

[multisync]

One thing I liked about the healthbars in the default version is when you hovered you could see your regen rate on both health/mana. No such way in this one as no bar shows it. Great mod though.

[gwho1]

what if the stuff on the bottom was put more closer together toward the center? the black box would be closer to the skills bar and same with the items bar. you could fit other apps in the resulting space that is wider, as well as expand the minimap larger without covering the black box.

[ASPD]

I tried the mod manager install, didn't work. Added it manually, and everything is fine, except.. I have no minimap. What am I doing wrong?

[dashPROEST]

I used the HoN ModMan and it works perfectly to get those three mods going together.

What I would love from Tiny UI:

A bar for health, mana, and xp just where the skill bar is. That would make the mod perfect.

[gwho1]

ahh the mod that deserves so much attention
i found some issues:

1) btw when the game started, the black box was about an inch off of the bottom of the screen.

2) it would also be good if the minimap appeared by default rather than disappear by default. it isn't apparent how to bring up the minimap, and also most ppl want an open minimap at all times than not.
- this seemed to be a one time thing only. it remembers my settings afterwards.

3) the minimap size adjusting bar needs to be placed where it doesnt allow you not to close it. at size 72@ the close button gets covered up.

4) there is no place where you can hold-click to follow your hero. have the top left unit profile picture allow for this, just like how hold-clicking the bottom right profile pic allows you to follow the target.

5) the minimap's "toggle unique player colors" button, and the "open/close resize" button do not move in the proper paths to remain in the right place relative to the minimap. changing slope values should fix this. and maybe even apply a change size to stay proportional to the minimap's resizing.







I tried the mod manager install, didn't work. Added it manually, and everything is fine, except.. I have no minimap. What am I doing wrong?

1) click the top middle to bring up the minimap.
2) you can adjust the size of the minimap when u click the up arrow in the center top of the minimap.
3) click the down arrow to close the size adjuster.

1) you can always use barter UI with an even bigger minimap that is positionable and sizeable and toggle-able with with the pressing of an assignable button.

[FreshM]

ahh the mod that deserves so much attention
i found some issues:

1) btw when the game started, the black box was about an inch off of the bottom of the screen.

2) it would also be good if the minimap appeared by default rather than disappear by default. it isn't apparent how to bring up the minimap, and also most ppl want an open minimap at all times than not.
- this seemed to be a one time thing only. it remembers my settings afterwards.

3) the minimap size adjusting bar needs to be placed where it doesnt allow you not to close it. at size 72@ the close button gets covered up.

4) there is no place where you can hold-click to follow your hero. have the top left unit profile picture allow for this, just like how hold-clicking the bottom right profile pic allows you to follow the target.

5) the minimap's "toggle unique player colors" button, and the "open/close resize" button do not move in the proper paths to remain in the right place relative to the minimap. changing slope values should fix this. and maybe even apply a change size to stay proportional to the minimap's resizing

1+2 this is because the variables arent created yet (hint: big red bold text in post nr.1 ^^) - they will be automatically created in the next version

3 could be - in the next version the button will be big enough to be clickable at any mm size -> no moving of the scale bar

4 working on that - we ll see ;) (i personally dont use it as there are the hotkeys "C" and "V" to do that

5 already listed in issues in post nr.1 - i have a solution for this but it requires 2 mods to be adjusted - i already modified them accordingly and as soon as they are in the repository i will release a new version including relative scaling

[Incogn1to]

As a few others have said:
What would make this mod even greater is a moveable minimap, XP bar and gold bar back near where they are in the original UI.
Great work so far! :)

[dashPROEST]

As a few others have said:
What would make this mod even greater is a moveable minimap, XP bar and gold bar back near where they are in the original UI.
Great work so far! :)

I did not realize that I NEVER look in the very top left of my screen until those bars were removed.

+1 for more bars at le bottom!

[gwho1]

great to hear it's underway, freshm.

whats your opinion about moving the black box and the items box closer to the center? instead of having a small gap in between each?


4 working on that - we ll see (i personally dont use it as there are the hotkeys "C" and "V" to do that
that's great to know. u have all thebases covered don't ya xp. nevertheless having it chaseable on the top left unit profile pic couldn't hurt right?


like kyrros said, minimal healths bars underneath the skill area could be good. my thought is that if it's small like the original then theres no point b/c ppl usually use mods that are adjustible for bigger helath bars. plus thers te unit fram at the top left.

[BlackICE]

SUGGESTION: since there is no picture of your own hero at the bottom to cast spells on you should make the small window that shows your attack damage and run speed click-able, simply make it have the same properties that the old picture of your own hero had, this way you can cast skills on yourself easier.

[gwho1]

top left is sort of... yeah far away.

my wish right now is that all the profile picture icons could be held to follow the hero.

[Skunkjuice]

next version is on its way
featuring:
- compability to colorblind and buff timer mod
- full scaleable mini map
- update of issue list and modman feature
- commandbox toggle

aiming still for saving feature and compability to aal - but prbly not in this version

Any chance you can make it an option to leave the hero information at the bottom of the screen under the spells / abilities panel?

I would really like to have at the very least HP && MP bars under the spells / ability panel.

[Terribad]

Please add hp and mp bars at the bottom, it's the only thing stopping me from using this great mod.

[gwho1]

i would also vote to have hp/mp bars below the skills

[MaxGhost]

I'd also like to see the moving/talking model thing from before in the top left: It'll give me more incentive to look up there, because there's some stuff moving. I also think that the black background for the little info panel thing (damage, armor, ms, stats) is extremely ugly. If it's possible to bring back the old look for that, I would appreciate it.

[FreshM]

new version available

be assured i will implement a way to display hp and mp bars in the bottom middle
and cosmetic changes will come after the functional partis done ^^

[gwho1]

he heareth our supplications! praise be to FreshM!

[BlackICE]

This guy made some of the changes people are asking for to your ui, so maybe you can take some of his code and modify it to your vision.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=26975

The giant scoreboard pop-out kind of ruins the whole idea of the tiny ui, but other than that his changes seem decent.

I think he may have made the small damage, armor, ms, stats window act like the old character portrait used to, so that you can click it to center the camera on your hero and cast spells on yourself. Either way I think you should do that.

If you can find a way to implement the better buff icons with the countdowns that would be amazing.

[Azurech]

i have no minimap :(

[Vadi]

This is exactly the perfect reason we let you mod the interface. This is what I think we did way better then any other DotA-type game; We give the player control of the interface.
Good job.

You kid, or you lie.

Or you just forgot about the all-powerful super testers.

In any way, what you said is not fully complete and thus false (logic fail before the edit).

[Incogn1to]

i have no minimap :(
You have to click the sun/moon icon at the top of your screen. I believe it's right above team deaths. (Or under? I can't remember..)

OP does say you'll need to click it to clear the interface, but I don't think it was very clear. I couldn't figure it out either at first. :p

Once you start getting more of the cosmetic changes done, I'll be even happier with this mod. (Only mod I use so the technical stuff isn't on my list of awesomeness. :()
Thanks again! :)

[FreshM]

i have no minimap :(

v1.10 and below
click the sun/moon wheel on top

v1.11
shouldnt happen anymore - if it does - again check your version if it rly is 1.11 - tell what mods you are using and i will have a look into it

[gwho1]

great job making the minimap buttons size and keep position!

lol at making the size bar button clickable at 72% and 71% it's BARELY enough and all is well! lol.

i heart this mod so much

<3 *heart*


_____________


now i see the purpose of not making the profile picture at the top left dragable. b/c that way you can click on picture to target attack or spell commands. and C and V like u said already has that base covered.

i wonder is it impossible to allow it to both be targeted and held?

i know the target profile picture at the bottom right is on drag rather than targettable.

perhaps if both profile pictures were targettable, and then either C or V could be changed to follow target. this way you could target and follow anyone.

[Sensator]

I'ma try this out.

[gwho1]

i just found that "dont deselect mod" is not compatible wiht this

[MaxGhost]

i just found that "dont deselect mod" is not compatible wiht this
Known.

[ugkbunb]

is modman and tiny ui up to date ? normally i get this error if i have a syntax mistake in mod.xml but at me (both newest version) i don't see a problem

Yes they both are... I have tired the tinui from the master repository thread as well as the one in this thread... and neither works.

[B4K4157]

The standalone version is fine, except I no longer have a minimap.

I thought it was a conflict, but I tried the same thing modless and it still appeared.

Also, the HonMod version doesnt compile, it comes up with the error:
could not find the string starting with <panel name="no_select_panel" color="invisible" visible="1" noclikc="1" height="50%" valign="bottom" watch="SelectedVisible0" ontrigger="SerVisible(!param);">" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui.honmod/mod.xml

hope you can help

Edit: Never mind, forgot I had mods in 2 places.
For those of you getting this error, disable the "dontdeselectmod" and all will be well

[gwho1]

v1.10 and below
click the sun/moon wheel on top

v1.11
shouldnt happen anymore - if it does - again check your version if it rly is 1.11 - tell what mods you are using and i will have a look into it

for your minimap problem.

the error when ur using honmod means there is another program that is conflicting with tiny UI. auto ability learner and dont deselect are the two mods that cannot work with tinyUI right now

[HeavySoul]

Great mod FreshM. Serious props for making things user-definable rather than fixed.

One piece of feedback: Because the level-up buttons are much smaller, I find them easier to overlook in the midst of mayhem and destruction. While I'm getting better at noticing them the more I use the UI, it would be nice if they could be made more noticable.

Thoughts:
1- Have them get much brighter when level-ups happen - fiery/glowing/etc.
2- Have them [hide] when no levels are available to skill up and *pop-up* just like the regular level-up buttons do when there are levels available.
3- Have them increase in size slightly (scalable?) when levels are available.

Thanks either way, keep it up!

[gwho1]

good ideas heavysoul. fully agree with #1

as long as #1 is brigth and glowy enough #2 wont' be necdessary. b/c mousing over it gives the popup info for each level which you dont get with just the big skill icons.

#3 is good too, altho i personlly dont find any problem wiht the current. (going from neutral to better is how i see #3)

[HeavySoul]

Good point on #2 gwho. They're small enough that they don't need to hide and then an extra button and step would be necessary to view the full skill info. Nvm on #2.

[Techies]

Quick thought - The XP bar on top left, any chance of showing exp remaining to level? Instead of how much exp you have.

[gwho1]

ooo yea the exp bar in the original UI was a real treat when i first made the switch to hon from dota

[DET`]

I really like the idea of a minimalistic user interface, but after trying it out I must say I really miss having my health bar under my spells, could this be an option to enable?

[MaxGhost]

I really like the idea of a minimalistic user interface, but after trying it out I must say I really miss having my health bar under my spells, could this be an option to enable?
He said it's coming soon.

[FreshM]

in fact it has already arrived ^^
I implemented some of your suggestions (directly or in an alternative version)

this update should satisfy many of you
the next one is not to come in the near future (unless there is some bugfixing to do)
as I want to work on some bigger ideas concerning the mod

it's gonna get tinier, more beautiful and more customizable - but depending on my free time and coding problems this can take a while

[gwho1]

as many great mods there are out there, i vote freshm's the most useful overall and most likeable overall =]

customizability would just blow my socks off

[MaxGhost]

Great! Updated repo with new link.

Feedback: I love the tiny little hero icon thingy. It's awesome. What I don't like however is the fact that the "damage, armor, ms, stats" panel still has a black background. That's ugly. Can you at least make it transparent/click-through if you can't add a fancy texture behind it?

[gwho1]

hand it to the man.

- the mini icon that is draggable (and looks nice) is positioned perfectly. it's like the shape of the skills bar was just asking for a profile icon at the top left of it.
- collapsible health bar at bottom is awesome.
- who doesnt like concentrated areas at bottom mid?


MG, i think it can't be click thru b/c things that have tooltips (mouseover -> info on the right) cannot be click throughable. like bard's buff icons and buff bars. they also show additional info upon mouseover

i dotn knwo if making it transparent is still possible tho.
i personally don't mind the black.

[MaxGhost]

onmouseover and onrightclick are two entirely seperate events, so I'm sure it's doable. Plus, transparency is do-able on everything.

Edit: I just made the changes myself and it works flawlessly.

http://i33.tinypic.com/afivjo.jpg

[Harkon]

The only thing I don't like is the looks of the inventory and stats parts. Other than that, it is brilliant.

[HugoStiglitz]

Would really like to give this mod a go but for some reason Hon Mod is giving a error that says "Unknown element 'incompatibility' in D:\Programs\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui.honmod/mod.xml"
I first tried it with some other mods installed that I didn't think it would be incompatible with, so I suspected I may have overlooked them and deleted them all, but it still doesn't work.

[MaxGhost]

Update your mod manager. Unknown element errors are usually due to old versions.

[gwho1]

onmouseover and onrightclick are two entirely seperate events, so I'm sure it's doable. Plus, transparency is do-able on everything.

Edit: I just made the changes myself and it works flawlessly.

http://i33.tinypic.com/afivjo.jpg


so you can take your hero, and give the attack command on that black box area with stats, and it won't negate your command? but mousing over would still show the tooltip pop up? thats awesome.

then i really relaly wish bard would make his UI's click-thru-able but also keep the mousover info.

[Hermann]

onmouseover and onrightclick are two entirely seperate events, so I'm sure it's doable. Plus, transparency is do-able on everything.

Edit: I just made the changes myself and it works flawlessly.

http://i33.tinypic.com/afivjo.jpg

Care to share, MaxGhost?
Thanks in advance :3

[Clyne]

amazing just what I was looking for. less border textures and a slightly bigger minimap! cheers!

[FreshM]

the comm gets what it wants
transparent stats window - clickthrough - stats pop up via mouseover on the icons
(tested around a little - mouseover + noclick = not possible)

[Slayn]

i gave it a try with hon mod manager but somehow tinyUI didnt work.. dunno whats wrong..
there was also a error when i clicked on "apply mods and start HoN"
by clicking just to "apply" everything was fine

error was like somethings missing in a .xml file

Edit:

here the screenshot:
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4237/tinyuierror.jpg

Edit2:
What the hell.. suddenly everythings working fine.. so nvm :D
strange..

[gwho1]

the comm gets what it wants
transparent stats window - clickthrough - stats pop up via mouseover on the icons
(tested around a little - mouseover + noclick = not possible)

MaxGhost?

[MaxGhost]

Here's the edited section of code in tinybot.package


<!-- Detail Stats -->
<panel name="tinystats" x="-25.0h" y="tinystats_pos" watch="MatchTime" ontrigger="SetY(tinystats_pos);" width="13h" height="15.65h" align="center" valign="bottom" color="invisible" float="bottom" padding="0h" noclick="1">
<!-- Damage -->
<panel y="0.9h" x="0.4h" height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" watch="ActiveDamage" ontrigger="SetVisible(param1 != 0);" onmouseover="ShowWidget('attack_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('attack_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/damage_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveDamage"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # Round(param0 + param2) # ' - ' # Round(param1 + param2));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Armor -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" onmouseover="ShowWidget('defense_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('defense_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/armor_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveArmor"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # FtoA(param1, 2));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Movement Speed -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" onmouseover="ShowWidget('movement_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('movement_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/move_speed_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveMoveSpeed"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # Round(param1));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Attributes -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" float="right" watch="ActiveHasAttributes" ontrigger="SetVisible(param);" onmouseover="ShowWidget('attribute_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('attribute_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/plus_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveAttributes"
ontrigger="
If(param3 == 0, SetText(' ^773' # Round(param0) # '^* ' # Round(param1) # ' ' # Round(param2)),
If(param3 == 1, SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ^773' # Round(param1) # '^* ' # Round(param2)),
If(param3 == 2, SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ' # Round(param1) # ' ^773' # Round(param2)),
SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ' # Round(param1) # ' ' # Round(param2)))));
"
/>
</panel>

@Sleyen, No Deselect mod isn't compatible with Tiny UI right now.

[Slayn]

@Sleyen, No Deselect mod isn't compatible with Tiny UI right now.

oh ok
i deselected it cause i didnt like it, and suddenly it worked, i didnt even notice that it was no deselect mod :)
thanks for info

[FreshM]

Here's the edited section of code in tinybot.package


<!-- Detail Stats -->
<panel name="tinystats" x="-25.0h" y="tinystats_pos" watch="MatchTime" ontrigger="SetY(tinystats_pos);" width="13h" height="15.65h" align="center" valign="bottom" color="invisible" float="bottom" padding="0h" noclick="1">
<!-- Damage -->
<panel y="0.9h" x="0.4h" height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" watch="ActiveDamage" ontrigger="SetVisible(param1 != 0);" onmouseover="ShowWidget('attack_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('attack_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/damage_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveDamage"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # Round(param0 + param2) # ' - ' # Round(param1 + param2));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Armor -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" onmouseover="ShowWidget('defense_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('defense_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/armor_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveArmor"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # FtoA(param1, 2));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Movement Speed -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" onmouseover="ShowWidget('movement_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('movement_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/move_speed_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" align="right" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveMoveSpeed"
ontrigger="SetText(' ' # Round(param1));"
/>
</panel>
<!-- Attributes -->
<panel height="2.0h" width="10.0h" color="0 0 0 0.75" float="right" watch="ActiveHasAttributes" ontrigger="SetVisible(param);" onmouseover="ShowWidget('attribute_tooltip');" onmouseout="HideWidget('attribute_tooltip');" passivechildren="true" noclick="1">
<image width="2.0h" height="2.0h" texture="/ui/legion/plus_icon.tga"/>
<label width="-2.0h" height="100%" font="dyn_9" color="white" shadow="1" textalign="left" textvalign="center"
watch="ActiveAttributes"
ontrigger="
If(param3 == 0, SetText(' ^773' # Round(param0) # '^* ' # Round(param1) # ' ' # Round(param2)),
If(param3 == 1, SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ^773' # Round(param1) # '^* ' # Round(param2)),
If(param3 == 2, SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ' # Round(param1) # ' ^773' # Round(param2)),
SetText(' ' # Round(param0) # ' ' # Round(param1) # ' ' # Round(param2)))));
"
/>
</panel>@Sleyen, No Deselect mod isn't compatible with Tiny UI right now.

are you sure this works flawlessly ?
damn - i could swear i tried it this way and it didn't

[MaxGhost]

are you sure this works flawlessly ?
damn - i could swear i tried it this way and it didn't

The screenshot shows it... I could click through.

[gwho1]

the awesomeness of MG knows no bounds. nice job

[FreshM]

ok got the chance now to try it - as i thought - no tooltips
that's why i kept the pictures on noclick 0
mouseover + noclick = not possible
to repeat myself ^^

[Oxrana]

[gRy]FreshM - good job! And I have a suggestion - can you add version (or option) to move minimap in right-bot corner instead left-bot ? I think it will be perfect place for minimap for both teams (Leg&Hel)

[byte1918]

I think latest version is incompatible with ColorBlind mode.

[FreshM]

are you sure ? i updated colorblind mod myself a few days ago to make them compatible
plz check ifyou got the newest version
i dont think that ive changed the concerned parts since then
(cant look myself atm - aint got hon with me)

[gwho1]

ahh having the icons of the black box be for mouseover, while the black portion of the box be click thru is just genius =D

benefits of both worlds covering up the clickable space is minimized.

[MaxGhost]

Bah. True... I probably missed that :P

[gwho1]

the new updated tinyUI seems to have a conflict with VOIP. is anyone else getting it?




i redownloaded VOIP from the OP.

okay, from the below screenshot, i turned off tinyUI and turned on VOIP. it great success. i switch, great success. i do both tinyUI and VOIP. error.

the incompatibility seems to be with the updated tinyUI, not this mod.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=451&pictureid=5849

[MaxGhost]

I don't have any incompatibility with TinyUI and VOIP...

[MaxGhost]

Bleh...

I don't like how you're using .honmods FreshM. I'm trying to convert the Minimap right-click toggle mod to honmod format, but you're using bits of code I need to change as reference points for replacing stuff. In other words, you can add it to you're incompatibilities list until you find a way to fix that.

[gwho1]

this time i disabled EVERY honmod except for tiny UI and voip and it conflicts.

since it says string starting with .... is not found, do u think maybe a core file was altered?

[MaxGhost]

this time i disabled EVERY honmod except for tiny UI and voip and it conflicts.
Then you might want to update the VOIP mod because I released an update for it about a week and a half ago to fix the incompatibility with TinyUI.

[gwho1]

i updated both voip and tinyui from the OP.

i also tried updating both voip and tinyui from the repository =(




edit:
yeah i remmber when u fixed the incompatibility. it was working and then today it stopped working togehter. maybe i shouldn't have updated.

how about u try updating both too?

[gwho1]

oops deleted

[byte1918]

are you sure ? i updated colorblind mod myself a few days ago to make them compatible
plz check ifyou got the newest version
i dont think that ive changed the concerned parts since then
(cant look myself atm - aint got hon with me)

I'm using latest HoNModMan, latest TinyUI which I have to say it's pretty awesome, and the latest ColorBlind mode (on website latest version is 2.4, but in HoNMan it shows as v3.0, maybe some bad string somewhere). Anyway I still get the error.

A suggestion I would like to give you.. to make the Tiny UI even tinier.

You can remove the Learning button from above the spells and make the spell button actually the learning button when you level up (who clicks on those buttons anyway ? and the fact that the Learning buttons are permanent it's kinda annoying and looks bad). Then make the skill buttons smaller, but not as small as the learning buttons, because most of us just need to check the cooldown from time to time.

Edit: also you could do the same with the inventory, because most of us use hotkeys.

smt like this
http://imgur.com/izFaq.jpg

sry for my epic mspaint editing.

[gwho1]

FRESHM i just found something. the little profile you have on the skills area. we already know you can click it and hold it and it will follow your hero right? well you can also target it with spellsand it will work. This means you can apply both functions to the top left profile picture too. chasecam + target spells- not just one.

edit: NVM keep it the way it is. actually after having thoguth about it, it would be better not to have chase cam on those. chase cam means even a regular click can focus on them, when you might not want that. it's mainly used for targetting spells so i guess it's good to keep it that way. the top left pictures still let you focus on that hero if u double click it so i guess it's all good.

great job on the mini picture tho. chase cam + targetable is really nice.










good suggestion, byte.

a few issues to clear up if the way u described is to be done.

1) mousing over the small icons gives you a different info than mousing over the skills - it has the per-level info.
solution -> take that per-level info and attach it to the resulting larger icons (per level info lets you know the effects and numbers for the current level anyway. we thus get rid of the level-specific mouseover that were attached to the large skill icons.

i'm completely down with clicking resulting in leveling up the skills. everyone uses the hotkeys to use the spells anyway.

2) when you press hotkeys. qwer, the large skill icon lights up as correlation. This aspect is useful. if it can be kept do so, but since we set clicking the icon to level up, this may no longer be possible, depending on the code.

I think the original UI of clicking the thing to make the menu come up, as well as the smsall little buttons above the large icons are ugly, unnecessary, and cumbersome. hotkeys are enough for using them, and you only need one clicking area.



PS btw the buff icons... which mod is that? better buff/debuff indicators mod? how did you move them over to the center?

are you using bards ui actually? for me bards uI doesnt display the countdown number on the icon, but rather it does so above the icon.

[ShizzleWiz]

I got a problem with this mod. It doesn't show me the minimap. It is sort of hidden below the screen in the corner and all the blinks and pinging are in 1 corner. I got a widescreen 1280x800

[gwho1]

shizzlewiz. downlaod the 1.3 version (.honmod)

if u are using s2z and insist on using s2z then click the sun/moon icon at the center top. after you do this, and it appears, it shouldn't disappear anymore

[byte1918]

FRESHM i just found something. the little profile you have on the skills area. we already know you can click it and hold it and it will follow your hero right? well you can also target it with spellsand it will work. This means you can apply both functions to the top left profile picture too. chasecam + target spells- not just one.

edit: NVM keep it the way it is. actually after having thoguth about it, it would be better not to have chase cam on those. chase cam means even a regular click can focus on them, when you might not want that. it's mainly used for targetting spells so i guess it's good to keep it that way. the top left pictures still let you focus on that hero if u double click it so i guess it's all good.

great job on the mini picture tho. chase cam + targetable is really nice.










good suggestion, byte.

a few issues to clear up if the way u described is to be done.

1) mousing over the small icons gives you a different info than mousing over the skills - it has the per-level info.
solution -> take that per-level info and attach it to the resulting larger icons (per level info lets you know the effects and numbers for the current level anyway. we thus get rid of the level-specific mouseover that were attached to the large skill icons.

i'm completely down with clicking resulting in leveling up the skills. everyone uses the hotkeys to use the spells anyway.

2) when you press hotkeys. qwer, the large skill icon lights up as correlation. This aspect is useful. if it can be kept do so, but since we set clicking the icon to level up, this may no longer be possible, unless S2 does something about it.

I think the original UI of clicking the thing to make the menu come up, as well as the smsall little buttons above the large icons are ugly, unnecessary, and cumbersome. hotkeys are enough for using them, and you only need one clicking area.



PS btw the buff icons... which mod is that? better buff/debuff indicators mod? how did you move them over to the center?

are you using bards ui actually? for me bards uI doesnt display the countdown number on the icon, but rather it does so above the icon.

I actually took the picture posted in the first post and edited.
I think he uses: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=11700

[Ruscour]

I'm getting an error running ModMan on Linux with Mono when I add TinyUI, it's saying something about 64pp and the image being the wrong size or something like that.

[gwho1]

I actually took the picture posted in the first post and edited.
I think he uses: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=11700

haha cheating! i thot u got one of the mods to behave that way.

btw better buff/debuff seems to get overridden by either bardsUI or tinyUI. (can't get icons postioined wihle at the same time display numbers on the icon itself.)

[mari_nicht1]

PS btw the buff icons... which mod is that? better buff/debuff indicators mod? how did you move them over to the center?

are you using bards ui actually? for me bards uI doesnt display the countdown number on the icon, but rather it does so above the icon.

the number in the buff icon is not the remaining time but the remaining charges of nature's vengeance...
i think there's no option in any mod atm to reposition the buffs/debuffs and show remaining time in the icon while using tiny ui.

[FreshM]

- its bard ui - he deletes the default buff icons and creates new ones that can be edited via his options; tiny ui doesnt affect them anymore (only deletes the small one in upper left corner)
- the skill and lvl up section as it is now will be reworked anyways but i'm sure there are people that click abilities that's why i kept both at first; on the other hand tiny ui is a mod that adresses more experiencend players - we will see to what solution i may come
- the pictures on the first page are taken with the version 1.0 - at that version i edited the buff icons but dropped it again to make tiny ui compatible with vadi buffs (and btw the 6 within the icon is "charges" not "time remaining")
- i will have a look at the minimap right click toggle, and yeah maxghost i know sometimes other mods just piss one off ^^ possessing the precious lines u want to use :D
- so viop slider ? hmm i think i'm using tiny and voip in the newest versions and don't get any errors ... gwho plz give me the exact line the error notification sends you

[FreshM]

the number in the buff icon is not the remaining time but the remaining charges of nature's vengeance...
i think there's no option in any mod atm to reposition the buffs/debuffs and show remaining time in the icon while using tiny ui.
doesn't have to do anything with tiny ui anymore
to show timers u can use:
vadi buffs -> automatic repositioning and size increase (edits default buff icons)
bard ui -> custom size and position (replaces buff icons)
barter ui -> just adds timers, no more no less

[gwho1]

gwho plz give me the exact line the error notification sends you
- in that picture, the exact error message is at the top middle. i'll link the same pic here for convenience.

- btw this same message comes up when i disable EVERY OTHER honmod and activate only tinyUI and VOIP.
- I tried redownloading both honmod files from OP and repository.
- i also tried disabling/testing other files, including s2z files to see if they were interfering, and could not solve it. maybe resource0, or resource 999, is interfering? those are the ones i didn't try moving out of the folder. or maybe a core file was corrupted. textures (the s2z file) is fine - i replaced it with a backed up one so it's fresh and pristine.


http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=451&pictureid=5849




also you could do the same with the inventory, because most of us use hotkeys.

nooooooooooooo~
- you can drop the item inventory to minimized and it will remember that setting.
- some ppl (like me) still use clicking, even tho i'm trying to swtich.
- PLUSSSS when you want to transfer items from stash to your hero/monkey, you need the inventory slots to do so.






_______________________________________

not as important of my comments:


(and btw the 6 within the icon is "charges" not "time remaining")

that is a freaken revelation to me lol^^
so the screenshot there is atcually ... bards icons? or vadis?


doesn't have to do anything with tiny ui anymore
to show timers u can use:
vadi buffs -> automatic repositioning and size increase (edits default buff icons)
bard ui -> custom size and position (replaces buff icons)
barter ui -> just adds timers, no more no less

i guess what i'm really asking for is for bard UI to allow the option of displaying the countdown on the icon itself, like vadi buffs. but thats for his thread not here. then it would have the ultimate utility over the others - movable, re-sizable, and numbers can go inside or above (below should be an option too)

[HeavySoul]

You can remove the Learning button from above the spells and make the spell button actually the learning button when you level up (who clicks on those buttons anyway ? and the fact that the Learning buttons are permanent it's kinda annoying and looks bad). Then make the skill buttons smaller, but not as small as the learning buttons, because most of us just need to check the cooldown from time to time.
.


^Please no. When you level up in the middle of a battle you want your spell hotkey or button to work, not just level up. Also, the small buttons have different information on their tooltips than the large spell button does.

[gwho1]

then again is removing those mini level up buttons really worth it compared to the downsides?
if those downsides can be negated or minmized, then maybe it is... but if it's interfering then the current way is just fine too

good suggestion regardless

[Sonic_Boom]

do the skill selections above the actual skills disappear after lvl25?

[Maximus`o_O]

- Awesome mod but i would like to have the moneys-bar and lvl-number at the bottom over the stats of my hero (and the exp-bar anywhere at the bottom if possible)
- I also agree with byte's suggestion up there as well.
- I will sleep with u if u get these things done! :D

[Volt]

By far favorite addon. I used this for a while, then played a game without it. I was amazed by how small my screen felt. It was so wierd! This addon is AMAZING mixed with Bard UI for the frames. Also good with some other ones, but the only problem is so few work with this addon! I love it so much I make sacrifices <3

[Gallien]

if u could put my hero's personal level, xp bar, and gold at the bottom, it would be flawless, or how would i go about changing it?

[Jayblah]

I agree with the above request. The gold should really be near the inventory slots. I had to stop using this otherwise fantastic addon because I could not get accustomed to having my gold in the upper-left corner where my portrait is.

[_HK]

i got this error today (10-12-2009)


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7250/errohon2.png

[Tulita]

i got this error today (10-12-2009)


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7250/errohon2.png

install the special version of the spell chanelling mod

[gwho1]

I agree with the above request. The gold should really be near the inventory slots. I had to stop using this otherwise fantastic addon because I could not get accustomed to having my gold in the upper-left corner where my portrait is.


yeah it was hard for me at first too.. even now i sometimes confuse my experience as my gold.

"1400 gold!? when did that happpeen? =] =] =] ... oh wait i only have 230."

it does makes sense that gold should be near items. that related things are close together. like family... lol

[Zaraki]

AMAZING MOD!! Couple things though:

1. Incompatible with the new Spell Channeling Mod. I know it's not your fault or anything, but wanted to make you aware of the new problem. Edit: Seems like the Spell Channeling Mod was edited, so no longer a problem!

2. Not a bug, but just a suggestion. Would be nice if you allowed for customization of ALL the different panels. Specifically, moving them around to different parts of the screen and possibly even allow scaling of each (kind of like BardUI).

Other than that, this is probably one of the best mods out there (Although Picklefish Stats and BardUI are pretty awesome too :-p).

[HeavySoul]

...this is probably one of the best mods out there (Although Picklefish Stats and BardUI are pretty awesome too :-p).

^ This, and all 3 work together!!!

[Zaraki]

yea, its pretty sweet. Trying to figure out how to make it work with the automatic ability learner and mini-map right click toggle mods. I know they are known issues, but I'm sure they can be made compatible somehow. Will try to figure it out.

[Sensator]

This mod is awesome however the compatibility issues has finally led me to deleting it.

[gwho1]

This mod is awesome however the compatibility issues has finally led me to deleting it.

same here, but i keep this one and not use the others :p

[Naliz]

This mod doesn't seem to work on my computer anymore. I'm using the honmod version and when i apply it for the game it says Great success. But the new interface isn't shown ingame.

I'm greatful for any response on how to solve this ASAP.

[Sephinator]

it doesn't work with "DontDeselect". :(

[Sonic_Boom]

yea, its pretty sweet. Trying to figure out how to make it work with the automatic ability learner and mini-map right click toggle mods. I know they are known issues, but I'm sure they can be made compatible somehow. Will try to figure it out.
here ill make ur life simpler (they all edit the same lines of coding lol thats y there incatibal) if you didnt already know that

[Zaraki]

here ill make ur life simpler (they all edit the same lines of coding lol thats y there incatibal) if you didnt already know that

Thanks, i figured it was something like that. I haven't actually looked at it yet, but hopefully I'll have some time soon. Or maybe I'll wait till a new version :-p

[Sonic_Boom]

np :D lol

[SoulEye]

I got this error today (10-17-2009). I installed modmanager today.


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7250/errohon2.png

So it's still incompatible with the channeling mod, or I have to find another version of the channeling mod.

[MaxGhost]

I got this error today (10-17-2009). I installed modmanager today.


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7250/errohon2.png

So it's still incompatible with the channeling mod, or I have to find another version of the channeling mod.
I think that's the incompatibility with minimap right-click mod.

[KnightDavion]

best ui ever. I wish i didnt have to disable so many things to get it to work but its worth it.

[Zaraki]

duuuuuude, MaxGhost said he's waiting for you to update this so that the incompatibility for minimap toggle can get fixed (maybe also AAL). Do it FreshM, Do it! :-p

[FixFax]

im also getting the error.. its not working proberly in hon mod manager when you got 25 other mods on :P

i tried turning both the no right-click minimap and channel bar mod off.. and still it didnt work,, so might not be does 2..

[Sephinator]

im also getting the error.. its not working proberly in hon mod manager when you got 25 other mods on :P

i tried turning both the no right-click minimap and channel bar mod off.. and still it didnt work,, so might not be does 2..

Channelbar v1.4 is fully compatible.

[Zaraki]

im also getting the error.. its not working proberly in hon mod manager when you got 25 other mods on :P

i tried turning both the no right-click minimap and channel bar mod off.. and still it didnt work,, so might not be does 2..

the Automatic Ability Learner mod is also incompatible with this mod, as well as the right-click minimap toggle mod. As far as I know, those are the only ones. Btw, this was answered earlier in the thread too :-p

[ASPD]

this doesnt seem to be working after the the .50 patch
cannot find string starting with <!--Health / Mana Bars--!> and stuff

[MaxGhost]

The list of incompatibilities with the new version is insanely long.

[Temragon]

http://www.mediafire.com/?mhnfhm2jjib

Honmod for 150. Don't blame me if it breaks.

[MaxGhost]

http://www.mediafire.com/?mhnfhm2jjib

Honmod for 150. Don't blame me if it breaks.
Lovely. I'll test it.

Edit: works here...

[GeForceFX]

Lovely. I'll test it.

Edit: works here...

Doesn't seem to work for me o.O. Even when i disabled every other mod

[FreshM]

Updated for current HoN release
they changed some lines concerning the hero portrait and the health and mana bars in the upper left
havent had a look at temragons solution but i assume he did pretty much what i did

and btw:
sry for the long time since the last update but i havent found the time to finalize it yet

[Mandos1]

Is it just me or does tinyui decrease the camera distance? The heroes atleast to me look larger.

[MaxGhost]

and btw:
sry for the long time since the last update but i havent found the time to finalize it yet
good to see you're still alive though.

There's a few new mods that are incompatible with TinyUI still, and I would like to see an update to make those work soon.

[Maximus`o_O]

And plz plz plz get the EXp-bar and moneys down too. I have waited a longggggggggg timeeeeeeeee for it !!! >_<

[Sephinator]

And please make more options. Options are great! :D

Suggestions:

• Change size on the Hero Portrait, much harder to target yourself now. :(
• Fix the incompatibility of "Automatic Ability Learning by Notausgang (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=24457)"

These are the reasons i don't use TinyUI now.

But thanks for the great Mod.

//Seph

[FreshM]

good to see you're still alive though.

There's a few new mods that are incompatible with TinyUI still, and I would like to see an update to make those work soon.

one thing is for sure - it will! come ^^
but i just reentered university and work so i cant estimate exactly when sry

[Ice_Phoenix]

Download and Installation - Mod Manager Version (v1.14)
Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/lwm45ltwmzj/tinyui.honmod)

The link works fine for me.

[gwho1]

And please make more options. Options are great! :D

Suggestions:

• Change size on the Hero Portrait, much harder to target yourself now. :(
• Fix the incompatibility of "Automatic Ability Learning by Notausgang (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=24457)"

These are the reasons i don't use TinyUI now.

But thanks for the great Mod.

//Seph

the portrait is used on the top left which si th eregular size. the small one on the bottom was added in from having nothing there. they each provide different functions.

the small one u can hold click and follow urself. ucant do that with the top left. can you target yourself with spells with the small one at the bottom? i haven't tried this yet.

[seppeel]

It doesnt work with Bards UI. :(

edit: sorry, it works, my honmod manager was outdated :)

[gwho1]

^ u made me think there was another version of the modman ^^. it's been 1.0 ever since i got it. was there a version prior to 1.0?

[Lolololage]

I just downlaoded the mod and started a practice game.

I could not seem to find the minimap, or any arrow to activate it.

Also, when i clicked "menu" hon crashed.

Are these known issues?

[Lolololage]

Bump?

I tried it in game and can still see no minimap.

Is there a way to activate it? Am i being silly?

I can see no little arrow.

[gwho1]

make sure ur using the latest version. also close honmod manager while ur updating or else it wont.

if u still have no minimap, click the sun/moon thing in the top middle and it will appear. After this, it will always remain. the minimap not being there is just for the first time when u download it.

(the new update was supposed to get rid of this problem, but either u dont truly have the newest version, or u can just do this method to make it appear and have it stay)

[Lolololage]

Thanks a lot. Bugs still there but as you say, clicking the moon/sun does it.

Not exactly obvious lol.

Another question, can i use this mod if i decide to downlaod other mods? (this is my first one) without difficulty?

[MaxGhost]

Thanks a lot. Bugs still there but as you say, clicking the moon/sun does it.

Not exactly obvious lol.

Another question, can i use this mod if i decide to downlaod other mods? (this is my first one) without difficulty?

If you use .honmods, yes, but this mod does have alot of incompatibility issues.

[gwho1]

it does have a lot of incompat issues, but they are relaly not that many
autoability learner doesnr work. which is the bigges thing. there are others that i cna't recall, but most others work if u use honmod. like 90% of them.

[MaxGhost]

Holy spelling fail batman.

[gwho1]

thats right i dont relaly care. u can read it just fine.

u keep saying u have such important things to do, yet u always go out of your way to gripe. go work on mods or sometihng or add dates. really we'd all appreciate that much more than ur constnat provoking.

at least i'm helping ppl without being an ass about redundancy. a person may read a few posts, but it relaly isn't worth reading the entire post thread filled with unrelated stuff. if they're redundant so waht?

either help the poor guy who wants to use the mod, or just don't post. really most of the time u just complain rather than being helpful, so theres really no point for u to reply so much. just go build mods, something u can do.

[MaxGhost]

I complain about you, mostly. I've probably posted at least one helpful post in almost every thread in this section.

[gwho1]

yeah i loved you with your unnecessarily sarcastic, condescending comments from the get go too. i kept try to make leeway, but u just insist on being a prick over and over again. i'm kind of done with you and not even trying anymore.

make ur mods (or don't), do ur thing, throw ur comments at me. i'll do my thing u do urs. if throwing an insult every now and then gives pleasure to this other life u tlak about so much, go ahead. im thru with ur hypocritical and oh-so-mighty attitude.

theres pretty much no need to tlak with u at all anyway. never asked for ur help specifically. your typical unhelpful and condescending replies had just got on my neves thats all.

[Dotatod]

I guess I'm the first to have this issue, or maybe I missed someone else posting it. However if I use this mod the moment I get into the game it begins to stutter then the display driver fails.

[gwho1]

wow thats a new one. it only happens when u use this mod? seems like a graphics card issue, but if not, that's a thinker. code expert would need to look

[Skunkjuice]

yeah i loved you with your unnecessarily sarcastic, condescending comments from the get go too. i kept try to make leeway, but u just insist on being a prick over and over again. i'm kind of done with you and not even trying anymore.

make ur mods (or don't), do ur thing, throw ur comments at me. i'll do my thing u do urs. if throwing an insult every now and then gives pleasure to this other life u tlak about so much, go ahead. im thru with ur hypocritical and oh-so-mighty attitude.

theres pretty much no need to tlak with u at all anyway. never asked for ur help specifically. your typical unhelpful and condescending replies had just got on my neves thats all.

Holy **** kid, read a book and go back to school

[Dotatod]

I guess I'm the first to have this issue, or maybe I missed someone else posting it. However if I use this mod the moment I get into the game it begins to stutter then the display driver fails.

Bumping since it is a real issue being over-run by forum drama, isn't maxghost a mod?

[MaxGhost]

Bumping since it is a real issue being over-run by forum drama, isn't maxghost a mod?

If you mean moderator, I wish. :(

As for his issue, I don't know much about graphics processing. I bet theli would be the one to ask.

[ugkbunb]

Broken for 1.51

[Frizzled]

I had some time to kill so I fixed it for 1.51 =)

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

[FreshM]

I guess I'm the first to have this issue, or maybe I missed someone else posting it. However if I use this mod the moment I get into the game it begins to stutter then the display driver fails.

can u tell which graphics card u are using ?
ah and the driver version plz

concerning 1.51:
i'll have a look at the new interface files later on

[GotB1unt]

I had some time to kill so I fixed it for 1.51 =)

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

awesome thanks

[BlackICE]

the tool-tip for allied hero info (top left shows cooldowns etc.) is no longer working.

[Raalus]

It says something about finding an internal clock or some and honmod manager wont let it work.

[MaxGhost]

It says something about finding an internal clock or some and honmod manager wont let it work.

Read up. A new version is temporarily out.

[Workdawg]

The new version (uploaded by Frizzled) seems to be incompatible with Smaller mini map, fyi.

[gwho1]

thx for the temporary fix.

btw, just curious. why does it say it's version 1.12? did u build all the current features from 1.12? damn.

[sohun]

hi, who does this addons without arachna autocast? or maker remove it thx ;)

[st3vo]

the "temporary" fix isnt working for me

"Tiny UI" caused a problem:
Could not find string starting with "<!--Clock-->" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui_151_fixed.honmod/mod.xml

[gwho1]

it's weird. i had that error come up when i first tried to use the temprorary fix. but now its working after i tried downloading it later. try this and see if it doenst claer it up:

1) clean out your cache (use Ccleaner)
2) restart your browser
3) completely delete all existing tiny UI files
4) when you download make sure hon, isn't running
5) make sure the modman isn't open

[st3vo]

it's weird. i had that error come up when i first tried to use the temprorary fix. but now its working after i tried downloading it later. try this and see if it doenst claer it up:

1) clean out your cache (use Ccleaner)
2) restart your browser
3) completely delete all existing tiny UI files
4) when you download make sure hon, isn't running
5) make sure the modman isn't open
Still is not working.

[gwho1]

oh, too bad.

i remember i got the same error message as you did. i was gonna post but i just decided not to. then after a while i redownloaded and it worked.

did u try downloading from the link in post #218?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=513862&postcount=218

as illogical as it sounds, downloading from a differnt link, even tho it's just a reproduction of the same link will solve things sometimes. it happened with another mod, and this one as well. the first time i downlaoded from post # 216, which gave me the error message. the 2nd time when it worked was from post #218.

if it still doesn't work, i'm out of advice. someone with technical knowledge can point out what the exact difference is.

[st3vo]

I have tried both... This is the Addon I want most too. Starting to irritate me.

[RufiO_o]

been trying to fidle with the mod manager and mods, most recently i tried so ui changing ones...
most added more options, not all worked, but they were still bulky.
tried to enable this one, but it kept giving me an error. i tried downloading the newest version, but... i replaced the old version and the manager still says that it is v1.12

anyone tell me how i might remedy this....really want to use this mod.

[RufiO_o]

also the error msg reads " Tiny UI caused a problem: Could not find string starting with " <!-- Health / Mana Bars -->" as sought by C:\Program Files (x86)\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui.honmod/mod.xml"

everything i have tried thus far, has failed to change the fact that it stays at version 1.12 even though i downloaded the newest one from the available like for .14

[Zaraki]

I don't know what the problem is, since I don't use this mod anymore, but remember this, TinyUI is incompatible with a number of mod, most importantly, Automatic Ability Learner and Right Click Mini Map Toggle. If you have either of these, or both, you will have to choose between those and TinyUI.

[Bulls_Eye]

Hey, i am stupid ass in HoN modding. I was able to get the standalone thing to work by just putting it in the correct folder, but i see that it is not updated. How do i get the .honmod file, which is 1.14, to work as the standalone file did?

[Notausgang]

Hey, i am stupid ass in HoN modding. I was able to get the standalone thing to work by just putting it in the correct folder, but i see that it is not updated. How do i get the .honmod file, which is 1.14, to work as the standalone file did?Use the mod manager (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=25883).

[hammered1]

the "temporary" fix isnt working for me

"Tiny UI" caused a problem:
Could not find string starting with "<!--Clock-->" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui_151_fixed.honmod/mod.xml


THIS.. love the mod.. using hon manager i get the same error.

[st3vo]

Mine just randomly started working... that makes no sense at all.

[st3vo]

Is there a way to move the frames around? i would really like to clean up a little more.

[MaxGhost]

Guys. The 1.12 version IS A TYPO in that version. It's actually the latest one and has all the latest features. Delete your other TinyUI mods in your mod folder, and it'll work.

[Goatmilk]

So anyone knows how to fix the clock issue? Just downloaded the mod and tried both the link in OP post and the one linked to above somewhere, also tried disabling all other mods meanwhile etc..

[Mueslio`]

Awesome! Will this work in 1.51?

[Biggy93]

May be read some page back :


I had some time to kill so I fixed it for 1.51 =)

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

[mari_nicht1]

also the error msg reads " Tiny UI caused a problem: Could not find string starting with " <!-- Health / Mana Bars -->" as sought by C:\Program Files (x86)\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui.honmod/mod.xml"


kinda strange but had the same thing,
solved it by:


enabling all mods i use except tinyui
starting a practice game
setting all variables (bard/barter can't remember which one)
console -> "reloadinterfaces"
quit hon
enable tinyui

maybe this will help someone ^^

[Bulls_Eye]

Use the mod manager (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=25883).

Doesn't work. Get error: Could not find string starting with "<!--Clock-->" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game

[MaxGhost]

Doesn't work. Get error: Could not find string starting with "<!--Clock-->" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game

For the 5th time people...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

[Grinning]

Hmmm.. for some reason the text from items in the stash overlaps the items, thus making them extremely hard to click. I don't know if it's because of the mod but it started after installing it and before 1.51.

[hammered1]

For the 5th time people...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

A new error is presented when trying this version.

Could not find string starting with "<panel color="invisible" x="0.35h" y="4.6h" height="2.1h" width="2.1h" name="team_color_switch" >" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game\mods\tinyui_151_fixed.honmod/mod.xlm

[Goatmilk]

For the 5th time people...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i4zdydqoyqm

As many people has said already, this one doesn't work ..

[__nyx__]

Doesn't work. Get error: Could not find string starting with "<!--Clock-->" as sought by C:\Program Files\Heroes of Newerth\game
I got the same error.
I downloaded Tiny UI and ModManager today. And I already disabled all other mods and I still got the error.

EDIT:
*blush* Now I downloaded the 1.51-fixed-version and it works. Even with RuneTimer.
But why is this newer version not linked on the first page?

EDIT2:
NO! It doesn't work. Only ModManager said "Great Success". But when I start a game it gets reeeeaaaaly sloooowww. When I move the mouse, the music stutters and the movements stop. And most of the time there's no interface at all. :(
I had to end the game with Ctrl+Alt+Del, because I was not able to reach the menu-button, because everything was so slow.
Then I only disabled TinyUI, opened a new game and everything worked.
I enabled TinyUI again and - again- I had to terminate the Program with Ctrl+Alt+Del.

I'm using: Windows XP Prof SP3, newest HoN, ModManager 1.0.3.0. and TinyUI 1.51-fixed,
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ 2.21 GHz, 2 GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 6600 GT.
Perhaps this helps finding the problem.

[RufiO_o]

never done a practice game or used console...so i am not 100percent sure on any of that.
however i think there might have been a time pre-hon_modmanager that used one of the other files u put in your game folder. that could also be effecting things, however i dont know which files were the original ones. so i can just delete any extras i may have put in there.
yet for now i am sorta ok with just using the other ui mods...still just a bit bulky.

[Luize]

Would be fun it would be compatible with the mod that automaticly learns abilities according to your queue.. pretty please :p ?