2.0.32 Patch Notes

[Idejder]

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Download links:
Windows: http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/HoNClient-2.0.32.exe

Version 2.0.32
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- Fixing the 0:00 Matchmaking interface
- Backend server improvements

Version 2.0.31
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- Fixing the auth issue this time. FOR REALZ.

Version 2.0.30.2
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- Trying to fix some auth issues
- Removing the 40$ Account offer

Version 2.0.30.1
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- Fixed Fayde being able to use items while in stealth
- Fixed the missing Account Icons
- Fixed Steamboots being able to toggle
- Fixed the Matchmaking interface

Version 2.0.30
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- 5 new icons

- Fixed recipes being able to combine using items from multiple players
- You can combine items properly using ownerless (i.e. dropped by a leaver) items now
- Fixed a crash during loading
- Touched up some of the Matchmaking UI
- Fixed Grimm's Crossing teleporters so that immobile gadgets can't use it to teleport
- Fixed lifesteal to not lifesteal on gadgets and chests. Also fixed lifesteal so it won't play a sound unless you validly lifesteal a unit. The following things are affected by this change:
* Dampeer's Bloodthirst
* Elder Parasite
* Hungry Spirit
* Symbol of Rage
* Whispering Helm

- Vulture Lord's Tornado now goes through trees and cliffs

== Items ==

:Astrolabe: Astrolabe
- Aura radius to 900
- Activation radius increased from 450 to 600

:BarrierIdol: Barrier Idol
- Radius from 500 to 600

:ElderParasite: Elder Parasite
- Damage taken reduced from 20% to 15%

:FrostfieldPlate: Frostfield Plate
- Aura radius from 1000 to 900

:LoggersHatchet: Logger's Hatchet
- Reworked slightly
* Activates to throw an axe at target enemy creep or neutral
* 600 Range, 30s cooldown
* Deals your attack damage to target on impact
* Can still target a tree to kill it and only has a 15 second cooldown if targeting a tree
- Retains passive

:Insanitarius: Insanitarius
- Now has a short 500ms cooldown when toggled on

:NomesWisdom: Nome's Wisdom
- Aura radius from 800 to 900

:NullfireBlade: Nullfire Blade
- Upgraded version has infinite charges
- Cooldown increased from 12 to 20 seconds

:PlatedGreaves: Plated Greaves
- Radius from 450 to 600

:HomecomingStone: Homecoming Stone
- Fixed a bug where you can infinitely disarm a tower with Post Haste

:Puzzlebox: Puzzlebox
-Added visual timer on the item so you don't have to select the minions to see their lifetimes

:RefreshingOrnament: Refreshing Ornament
- Aura radius to 900

:RestorationStone: Restoration Stone
- Mana cost reduced from 375 to 300

:RunedAxe: Runed Cleaver
- Now can be used to cut down trees

:ShieldOfTheFive: Shield of the Five
- Radius from 450 to 600

:Stormspirit: Stormspirit
- Made it unbind the target it's used on
* This stops it from causing derps or people flying all over the screen randomly
- Fixed Pebbles graphical bug

== Heroes ==

- New Intelligence Hero: Martyr
- New Gold Collection Alternate Avatar: :pebb: Golden Pebbles :pebb:
- Flux now sides with the Legion!

:accu: Accursed
- Sear is no longer an Attack modifier

:andr: Andromeda
- Mana cost of Comet from 95/110/125/140 to 110/120/130/140
- Aurora duration from 14/16/18/20 to 14 seconds
- Void Rip cooldown from 45/45/45 to 70/60/50

:arac: Arachna
- Mana cost of Harden Carapace from 90 to 50
- Harden Carapce Magic Armor from 5/10/18/35 to 8/16/24/32

:arma: Armadon
- Snot Storm armor reduction from 1/1/2/2 to 1/1.5/2/2.5

:balp: Balphagore
- Added a visual timer for Corpse Conversion minions

:behe: Behemoth
- Heavy Weight damage from 25/45/75/115 to 25/55/85/115
- Heavy Weight stun duration from 0.3/0.7/1.2/1.5 to 0.6/0.9/1.2/1.5
- Shockwave Magic damage for additional units from 35/45/65 to 35/45/55
- Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed

:bloo: Blood Hunter
- Fixed mod exploits with Blood Sense

:bubb: Bubbles
- Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5

:chip: Chipper
- Focus Buffer from 150/300/450/600 to 125/250/375/500

:chro: Chronos
- Time Leap movespeed slow from 10/20/30/40% to 22/28/34/40%

:corr: Corrupted Disciple
- Script cleanup for Electric Tide

:dark: The Dark Lady
- Taint Soul mana cost from 35/45/55/65 to static 35

:empa: Empath
- Illusory Veil duration from 2/3/4/5 to 3/4/5/6

:engi: Engineer
- Changed Spider Mines to not trigger on siege units

:fayd: Fayde
- Reworked
- Cull
* Now always manaburns
* Damage increased from 100/150/200/250 to 100/160/220/280
* Manaburn is now 7/14/21/28% on all targets hit, Fayde gains mana equal to half the mana burnt
- Burning Shadows
* Now always stuns
* Manacost lowered from 85/105/125/145 to 85/100/115/130
* Damage and stun are the same
- Scythe/Shadow Stance
* Removed
- New ability: Deep Shadows
* Target an area, summoning shadows there for 5 seconds
* Shadows slow enemies by 15/20/25/30% and increase Fayde's movespeed by 15/20/25/30% while they are inside of it
* Movespeed modifiers linger for 1 second
- Reflection
* Now has treewalking
* Now grants Fayde 1200 clearvision while stealthed by Reflection
* This sight lingers for 2 seconds after exiting stealth

:flux: Flux
- Optimized his Magnetic Surge and Discharge by removing superfluous checks & improved algorithms
- Tweaked Magnetic Surge & Discharge pushes to be more accurate
- Reduced the sound on his Polarity Swap modes by a factor of 4
- Made Discharge give assists
- Dampened Flux's & Steam Flux's walk and regular attack sounds
- Fixed tooltip on Release to show radius correctly
- Made Discharge unbind so it stops interacting with projectiles very (VERY) poorly

:fors: Forsaken Archer
- Call of the Damned Skeletons TP with FA
- Split Shot reworked to basically be ranged cleave
* Main target takes full, 2 additional targets take 14/21/28/35% damage

:gaun: Gauntlet
- Infernal Instability grants 40 Movespeed at all levels instead of 10/20/30/40
- Grapple slightly increased touch radius to 80 from 75
- Enfeeble is no longer an Attack Modifier
- Capped the charges on Enfeeble to prevent rollover
- Fixed a bug with Gauntlet Blast where it was waking people up incorrectly

:hell: Hellbringer
- Life Void damage healed from 10/20/30/40% to 15/20/25/30%
- Added visual timer to Summon Malphas

:jera: Jeraziah
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage
- Inner Light radius from 250 to 300

:legi: Legionnaire
- Tower attacks may now proc Whirling Blade

:magm: Magmus
- Fixed Eruption to play the animation correctly

:mora: Moraxus
- Matraxe now has a small cooldown after activation on it
- Quake stun duration from 1/1.5/2.0/2.5 to 1.75/2.0/2.25/2.5
- Fixed his attack animation not playing while he has Arcane Shield up (before absorbing a spell)

:noma: Nomad
- Fixed his Mirage Strike illusion from spamming attack commands
- Fixed the Mirage Strike illusion playing the "ZING!" charge initial sound twice if the unit is invulnerable before the illusion gets a chance to attack

:nymp: Nymphora
- Fixed Volatile Pod visual lasting for 1 second more than it should.

:pand: Pandamonium
- Cannonball stun duration from 0.75/1.25/1.75/2.25 to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25

:phar: Pharaoh
- Tormented Soul manacost increased from 50/50/50/50 to 50/55/60/65

:poll: Pollywog Priest
- Added visual timer to Voodoo Wards

:pupp: Puppet Master
- Cleaned up scripting for Puppet Show
- Fixed the Puppet Show's target from spamming attack commands every frame since it messes with pathing
- Voodoo Puppet health from 450/700/950 to 500/750/1000
- Voodoo Puppet decreased damage amp from 160/180/210 to 140/160/180
- Voodoo Puppet overkill damage is still transferred to target, but not amplified

:ramp: Rampage
- Fixed a mod exploit

:scou: Scout
- Vanish no longer loses 'Flurry' when Invisibility is manually disabled

:silh: Silhouette
- Fixed her Grapple from interacting badly with Bubbles's Take Cover

:slit: Slither
- Added a targetradius for the tooltip of Poison Spray
- Removed 10% movement slow from Toxicity
- Toxicity is no longer an attack modifer
- Toxicity's regen disable from 40/60/80/100% to 20/40/60/80%

:souls: Soulstealer
- Demon Hands manacost increased from 75 to 80

:succ: Succubus
- Mesmerize manacost reduced from 165 to 130/140/150/160

:thun: Thunderbringer
- Lightning Rod damage from 5/7/9/11% to 3/5/7/9%

:tort: Torturer
- Chain Reaction manacost increased from 100/125/140/165 to 120/135/150/165
- Impalement manacost increased from 95/120/135/155 to 115/130/145/160
- Agonizing bonds damage reduced from 80/145/205/265 to 80/140/200/260
- Agonizing Bonds targets lowered from 3/5/6/7 to 3/4/5/6
- Agonizing Bonds pull radius reduced from 650 to 600

:tund: Tundra
- Added a visual timer to Call of the Winter to check summon's lifetime
- Cold Shoulder is now always 600 range

:valk: Valkyrie
- Fixed a super duper rare long range Javelin of Light bug

:warb: War Beast
- Added visual timer for his Summon Hellhounds

:witc: Witchslayer
- Power Drain rescaled drain from 20/40/60/100 mana per second to 25/50/75/100

Thanks to Evil_Andrex for color

[Muxas]

something else , cool

[Lillekrolle]

2'th

[Bro]

Third


oh my god

fayde rework

i love you wholeheartedly

[balcomb]

NIOCE

[Pellikan]

Cool

[Kaee]

great patch

[TaggsvampisH]

Sweet stuff

[JustinLeaver]

I'm just a holy fool, oh baby he's so cruel. :mart:

[Ol`Yojimbo]

That's one hell of a patch ! Freaking best patch in ages as far as I'm concerned.

Test feedback :

Are Hatchet and Cleaver supposed to share the same cooldown ? 30 seconds if Hatchet used for a last hit on both.
Deep Shadows could use a radius indicator just like most AoE spells. Was expecting something more original. :(

[blackAngel]

nice fayde and fa change :>

[DemonW0lf]

/reserved

[ArtVandelay]

Long read, interesting ****.

[Sauron`]

Whoa these are awesome changes. and FINALLY FAYDE GOT FIXED, YESSS.

[Kudryavka]

All my love.

[D0ri]

Holy moly, awesome patch!

From my perspective, probably the best balance patch S2 have ever released. So many subtle yet really good changes.

Interested to see how Panda, DL and Chronos buffs turn out. FA split shot change so huge.

[Rapid]

nice stuff bro
Bubbles
- Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5
this
fuk u pk ;/

[bolonypony]

Oh damn, BIG changes!! :fayd:

[Rayleigh]

Ha!!! "runed axe" :p

[relic]

One awesome patch! Very well done and thank you for your efforts.

[Sauron`]

These changes are all really nice and legit. Can't wait to get home and play!
Thanks S2

[Nark0Punk]

BubbleS T..T no more take cove--> pk to safety T..T

[Frewbags]

So much nerf!

Sweet patch though... Few things made me sad, poor :bubb:


EDIT: jeez you're not wrong about the epic Mac patch 0_o

[Ritualst]

These are Huge changes!

Very nice patch that will change a lot in both pubs and competetive games.

[Angusiasty]

wow i'm going home in 10min D:D:D::D

[powerofbr]

great patch, fun fun fun fun fun funa ufnasu fnaxu nzuxn zuxfn uznxf zxlç

[RushZ]

Nerf to tort? That's amazingly lame.

[Lil_Helper]

The sacred soul stealer's demon hands have been defiled, let the dotards cry!

[BattleHungeR]

yessssssss!!!!!

[Rayleigh]

"- Harden Carapce Magic Armor from 5/10/18/35 to 8/16/24/32"

is "32" intended? oO

[_ArAchNo_]

Nice patch now game doesn't start lol

[Eschaton`]

S2, you're great! Giving us tons of new heroes for free, and now this! :D Thank you so much for the Fayde rework also, can't wait to start playing her again :) Great patch hopefully!!!!
Only thing I o_O'd at was...

- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

[ChaosXan]

Can't spawn alt avatars in Practice mode anymore.

[rumy]

It's totally amazing. I like changes of cleaver and hatchet :LoggersHatchet: Good work S2

[RazZe]

http://maide.ca/clap.gif

[Testingrani]

Thanks for the new patch, S2.

[lolsworth]

Wtf at Logger's buff

<3 Runed Axe buff

Good nerfs to many overused heroes, dunno if the buffs to underused heroes will make a difference but good nonetheless

[Astronomer]

Fayde looks fun now !

[ItsBehindYou]

Another garbage patch with illogical changes and none of the necessary ones. S2 seem to have just given up on trying to make the game playable, either that or they pick changes out of a hat.

[Transvestor]

Cool update. Never able to play Jeraziah again. Kthx.

[Sauron`]

Big question: Now that Faydes passive damage block is gone.....where do we lane her at? lol

[SF3]

Woot, cool patch

[W1nch3st35]

Awesome patch i approve :)

[DaPPa]

Cool patch, except the armadon buff was uncallled for, he's already pubrape.

[mind1337]

Thanks for the tremble nerf!
OH WAIT

[Lexoid]

Damn! Legion int hero roster is full! Wat do!!

[flibble]

Calling it now. Fayde is ridiculously OP

[PH34RST3R]

sweet patch :D

great changes imo

edit: wonder how the hatchet change will play out though o_o that has to change many things :O we'll see, still love the change :D

[Mollse]

Huge Bubbles, Torturer and Jera nerf :((

[Minaxter]

Nice patch, thanks S2

[EverSpring]

what did poor :bubb: did to you? not like he was a pubstomping superstar, he took skill :< farewell bubbles.

[BP_Oil]

LOL bubbles nerf. are you serious?

[wafflelegend]

YEA JERA NERFED TO THE GROUND LOL, TB NERFED TO THE GRRRRRROUND YEEEEEE. Ty :).

[Montis]

Why the torturer nerf?

[xmangosx]

Wow so much with this patch who knows where to start....nerfs and buffs galore... Is it still balanced around the comp scene or what?

[Miveal]

Is something wrong with my client or you can't anymore spwan alt heroes in practice game?

[Cousland]

Awesome patch after a while. Love every change
I just hope next time Keeper/BH gets reworked and/or Rampage and Engi get buffed

[AceSamael]

More nerfs on andro :(

[Sedridor]

>Look at patch notes expecting another week of trash

>Tons of radius-based balance changes
>Logger's hatchet buffed
>Runed axe now counter to keeper of the forest
>Bubbles take cover pkey bullshit nerfed

MAGNIFICENT

[Rikomi]

Now everyone can be MORAXUS if you own a LOG HATCHET!

[_para]

lots of goodstuff - but i dont like the andronerf. playing her in a game with randoms is already a pain in the ass. :(

[Sauron`]

Ya Im not really sure why Andro Needed a nerf?

[s4ms3milia]

Andro nerf is way too strong

[KaotiKx]

loggers hatchet change = basically smite in league of legends.

why nerf tort? prolly gonna be rare pick again.

so manynerfs also :/ fayde rework seems cool

[Reldnahc]

Now this is what a balance patch should look like. :fors:

[Purpley]

Looks like it, considering so many of those heroes are core picks;p

More impotantly slither can have an orb now!?!?!?

[IamJuDGe]

Woah, the attack modifier changes on certain heroes are quite a big deal.

Torturer overnerfed tho? ^_^

[Banorac]

if that bubbles change makes him lose the ability to TC -> PK safely, he will become poop.

[ravenxii]

Toxicity is no longer an attack modifer


OMG YES

[ToxicMonkey]

Amazing patch!!

Finally you bothered to fix :fayd:! About time, but good job fixing her none the less! Not sure of her balance now but the changes seem to be great so far.

Absolutely LOVING all the other changes as well..!

[SeriousCat]

Nice patch, you have my respects, S2.

Interesting changes, some buffs, some nerfs... Nullfire blade ultrabuff will be target of many discussions, I think.

And nice rework to Fayde. Time will tell if this rework will give her a bit of glory...

PD: Frostburn now core on Slither, I think.

[DemoniWaari]

Nice buffs and nerfs. Good that bubbles was nerfed, he was too good imo. Andro nerf seems okay, though she isn't much used in pubs. Tort nerf does seem over the top, but we'll see.

This logger change might make melee carries more useful! Cool... brb gonna sc00t soon.

[Loveleis]

I dislike bubbles nerf. The portal key take cover thing was what made him relevant lategame.

[Eldar]

No more alt. avatars spawn function in practice mod?

[Ritualst]

To all of the people complaining about the changes:

1) TB had to get nerfed. He will still do HUGE damage, but this little bit should help dealing with him
2) Bubbles nerf - well deserved. Please be honest - once you got PK on him you couldn't kill him unless you got him stunlocked to death or you had mock. Well deserved imho.
3) Tort - after buff to his stun that made it possible to land agains non-sleeping enemy he was way to strong.
4) Slith - nerfs well deserved as well.
5) Pharo - good nerf. Flare was way to powerfull early game.
6) Andro - c'mon how many times have you seen lvl 8 andro saving lvl 16+ cary every time it was needed. Her ult is very strong and longer CD at lower level will make her balanced.

All of those changes (along with the buffs) possibly will change competetive scene. Aren't you tired of seing same heroes like 90% of the time?

BTW, I want to check Axe change since it looks like really cool item for early-mid game.

[Filletter`]

nice patch :-)

[MrStitch]

Dont know if anyone noticed this or if s2 already saw this bug here's a little and small bug :

When you search on MM queue instead of seeing the current ETA you see :

" mm_queue_eta_body "


:)

- Moony_

[Vantec]

garbage patch, so many unbalanced and op now

fayde welcome to permaban

[`DeMeNt]

bye bye keeper of the forest,
bye bye torturer

[sheez]

nomad but more than that silhouette still broken as hell

[KeepSilence]

Now I don't play Bubbles much but I don't understand why so many people are crying about his Take Cover 'nerf'. Now you just PK in and Shell Surf out instead of the other way around. How is this a nerf ?

[Zpredator]

Love you

[gravestorm]

ty s2.
bubble nefr - cry cry no skilled players. this hero was imba highlender with pk(unkillable to any nomber of opponents). still strong.
tort nerf ( one of my fav heroes btw) - a bit sad but... not so much. fair mcost is good .
jere nerf - valid.
fayde - pure sex. a bit op i think, but fun to play though. mana efitiency up/ dmg up/ chace-run capability up/ ulty up.

[Batchman]

well played :)

but boosting arma? :D

[Gorb]

Wow so much with this patch who knows where to start....nerfs and buffs galore... Is it still balanced around the comp scene or what?
Says the 1480 player . . . OH WAIT IT'S A CLEVERLY DISGUISED ALT ACCOUNT.


garbage patch, so many unbalanced and op now

fayde welcome to permaban
Care to explain why, or are you satisfied with your garbage trolling?

[Nuraun]

I actually like alot of these changes, hopefully it'll turn into something valuable on the scene, GJ S2 :)!

[Vantec]

Says the 1480 player . . . OH WAIT IT'S A CLEVERLY DISGUISED ALT ACCOUNT.


Care to explain why, or are you satisfied with your garbage trolling?


Trolling? LOL

1200 range CLEARVISION from ult

that is a joke right there

[Saucery]

:mora: + :LoggersHatchet: ?

[Angusiasty]

:Astrolabe: Astrolabe
- Activation radius increased from 450 to 600 - This was so needed.

:NullfireBlade: Nullfire Blade
- Upgraded version has infinite charges - Can be op now ^^

:RunedAxe: Runed Cleaver
- Now can be used to cut down trees - FINALLY!

:accu: Accursed
- Sear is no longer an Attack modifier - Smurfing carryaccursed right nao!

:arac: Arachna
- Mana cost of Harden Carapace from 90 to 50 - <3

:behe: Behemoth
- Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed - Behemoth is sad... just listen to him :((

:fors: Forsaken Archer
- Call of the Damned Skeletons TP with FA - WEEEEE!!!

:hell: Hellbringer
- Life Void damage healed from 10/20/30/40% to 15/20/25/30% - But how I solo 5 now?

:jera: Jeraziah
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage - :(

:legi: Legionnaire
- Tower attacks may now proc Whirling Blade - ^^ poor supports

:scou: Scout
- Vanish no longer loses 'Flurry' when Invisibility is manually disabled - BIGGEST WIN OF THIS PATCH!!!!!

:slit: Slither
- Added a targetradius for the tooltip of Poison Spray
- Removed 10% movement slow from Toxicity
- Toxicity is no longer an attack modifer
- Toxicity's regen disable from 40/60/80/100% to 20/40/60/80%
Not sure if like :/

:succ: Succubus
- Mesmerize manacost reduced from 165 to 130/140/150/160 - 10/10


^ post inside :scou:

[TurtleBoats]

some of the changes like pharaohs small increase in manacost in tormented souls arent that bad.

but holy hell, huge nerfs to slither...he is chosen a lot because of his early game harass, and that 10% movement slow being removed is a huge nerf. how many times must slither be nerfed now?

some questionable nerfs to heroes like bubbles...


tort nerf WAS definitely needed, and if you deny it, you are a moron. I have tort as one of my most played heroes, because tort was TOO STRONG early game and could dominate. Any competent tort player could dominate solo mid and take down the tower fairly fast.

this tort nerf, although not that big imo, is still needed to help slow down the snowball effect of the hero in the early game.

jere "nerf" not really significant, you arent really using your heal for damage output. yes it is nice if it nets you kills during a teamfight, but its there to heal; first and foremost.

[xmangosx]

Says the 1480 player . . . OH WAIT IT'S A CLEVERLY DISGUISED ALT ACCOUNT.


Care to explain why, or are you satisfied with your garbage trolling?

OH look a garbage mod and yes I have other accounts and have a good time on them. I also know when a nerf or buff is needed and when they are not needed. Are YOU a 2000psr pro? Didn't think so stfu.

[RUSty_]

some good changes, lots of bad changes. Sticking to DotA still.

[HonStinks]

Why is Martys voice so incomprehensible? He sounds like he is talking in a giant, empty industrial hall while having his speech blast from speakers with a short delay.

In other words he sounds like an idiot with all the sound filters.


EDIT:

Also his spell effects are very underwhelming.

[rubenlegrand]

that will shut the crybabies up for at least a week or 2...

great patch!

[Naxemal]

Jizzed, well done S2!

[`DeMeNt]

"Nullfire Blade
- Upgraded version has infinite charges"
ok... Inb4 nullfire teams rape

":ElderParasite: Elder Parasite
- Damage taken reduced from 20% to 15%"
ok.. this is just NORMAL (this is now a 1:1 dota ported item)


farewell andomeda, a hero with already low stats

farewell behemoth, "Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed" it's already hell to farm with him until you get your ultimate up and participate in teamfights, now it's hell after that too.

- I assume that FA has a new skill too? "Split Shot reworked to basically be ranged cleave" because if it's a ranged cleave then definitely it's NOT a split shot anymore.
????

" Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage"
bye bye Jeraziah.

"Removed 10% movement slow from Toxicity"
then modify his range to be 600 or bye bye slither

:tort: Torturer
-nerf - nerf some more nerf -and... nerf..
BYE BYE tort

[Ostaskeri]

shiiii this means just one thing, :accu: carry build will tooootally rape

[MrCosgrove]

i love the changes, although it seems that fayde got overbuffed, but i will see this when i get the chance to play
other then that bubbles, tb, phara and slith nerfs are all great
nullfire and hatchet op now? :X

[KingReaper]

FAYDE OP now! :D

i came

[Navicat]

best patch ever

[Lefpom]

YEA JERA NERFED TO THE GROUND LOL, TB NERFED TO THE GRRRRRROUND YEEEEEE. Ty :).
TB is grounded, get it? :D GET IT?!? XD

[MrCosgrove]

"Nullfire Blade
- Upgraded version has infinite charges"
ok... Inb4 nullfire teams rape

":ElderParasite: Elder Parasite
- Damage taken reduced from 20% to 15%"
ok.. this is just NORMAL (this is now a 1:1 dota ported item)


farewell andomeda, a hero with already low stats

farewell behemoth, "Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed" it's already hell to farm with him until you get your ultimate up and participate in teamfights, now it's hell after that too.

- I assume that FA has a new skill too? "Split Shot reworked to basically be ranged cleave" because if it's a ranged cleave then definitely it's NOT a split shot anymore.
????

" Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage"
bye bye Jeraziah.

"Removed 10% movement slow from Toxicity"
then modify his range to be 600 or bye bye slither

:tort: Torturer
-nerf - nerf some more nerf -and... nerf..
BYE BYE tort



you know that the tort nerf was justified very much since his stun is a nobrainer nowadys and he is still better then before because of this?

[Tumultuous]

I like the fayde rework, nearly hate the slither nerf =( I almost cried upon seeing that

[Sauron`]

The only really surprising nerf was behemoth......I mean he took a long time to be really effective....

[TurtleBoats]

YEA JERA NERFED TO THE GROUND LOL, TB NERFED TO THE GRRRRRROUND YEEEEEE. Ty :).

how exactly is jere nerfed?

jere "nerf" not really significant, you arent really using your heal for damage output. yes it is nice if it nets you kills during a teamfight, but its there to heal; first and foremost.

the radius has now increased, so heroes you couldnt heal bomb before due to range, are now within radius.

so seems like an equal trade off to me.

[Vortex]

Balance patch! At last.

[Squeaky]

While i have to agree the heroes that needed to be toned down have been (:tort::slit::jera:) I am a bit concerned about the nerf to :behe:.. :(

[michA]

where r the 5 new icons? :(

[skyFire]

omfg imba patch! :D

omg this patch is much more better than the last update, didn't expect this. wp s2 wp

[Ol`Yojimbo]

Those attack modifier removals should hardly change anything actually. Anyone going for a carry Accursed is wasting its support potential.

Gotta agree on the fact Martyr could get some spell animation overhauls. Void Rip nerf would have been enough on Andro.

[`lol]

Those attack modifier removals should hardly change anything actually. Anyone going for a carry Accursed is wasting its support potential.

Gotta agree on the fact Martyr could get some spell animation overhauls. Void Rip nerf would have been enough on Andro.
Anyone playing support Accursed is wasting its carry potential.

[Shakma]

Meh :flux: still only applies his 70% movespeed reduce on pull mode with release only when standing in the target, which is only possible with 0 collision size....

[Crydasia]

thanks s2 for buffing everything i play and nerfing everything i hate to play against :3

<3

[IamJuDGe]

Anyone thinking Jere got a nerf is so tunnelvisioning the +50 range on his heal, meaning it can presumably hit multiple people in a teamfight, or become a more viable ability to use in a lane and hit again, multiple people and be agressive with more ease.

Incompetence has a new name, and it's called scrubs.

[Kalium]

Excellent patch. Finally some nice balance changes!

[`DeMeNt]

this patch would be interesting to test if it would work,
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[Gizzleby]

Disappointing read.

[Gorb]

OH look a garbage mod and yes I have other accounts and have a good time on them. I also know when a nerf or buff is needed and when they are not needed. Are YOU a 2000psr pro? Didn't think so stfu.
Are you a 2000 PSR "pro" (PS: Matchmaking is where it's at. That's MMR, not PSR).

No?

Okay then. Until you want to comment on balance notes sensibly, don't bother flaming me, yeah?

I couldn't care less if you were 1000 PSR and 500 MMR. If you're posting trash, you're posting trash.

[Slut]

What about that "overpowered" beast that is keeper of the forest, s2 ?

[integral]

Andromeda nerf ?
Yeah, like she was too imba...

[Ohman]

im also getting crash when trying to patch, any ideas? do i have to reinstall?

[Zahnfleisch]

People crying about slither nerf with toxicity not being an attack modifier anymore.

facepalm.jpg

[tbarr1991]

lol
toxicity
sear
and enfeeble

Just lol

[TurtleBoats]

People crying about slither nerf when toxicity isn't an attack modifier anymore.

facepalm.jpg

ITS FOR EARLY GAME HARASS.

god, you are a fukn idiot.

by the time you get an attack modifier on slither, you're early game harass potential has diminished. slither was one of the best harassers in the game.

[EK]

Pro:
Fayde
Succu
Tort
Behe
Forsaken
New Support Hero

Con:
Andro
Logger
Pebbles avatar
Empath life link still suck, atleast it can be good to level link and aura now, when you get like level 2 in wall at lv 1

[Ritualst]

What about that "overpowered" beast that is keeper of the forest, s2 ?

KotF is borring, anoying hero that was ported from DotA by mistake and should have no place in HoN....

[_para]

someone post a picture of golden pebbles

[Kokuyo]

:fayd: Fayde
- Reworked
My most loved is finally worth picking again.

[Hsssh]

Any hero still has inbuilt attack modifier? I think it`s a good thing that heroes aren`t limited anymore by their skills and more varied builds are possible now.

[Slut]

KotF is borring, anoying hero that was ported from DotA by mistake and should have no place in HoN....

Oh wow that makes sense I totally get it now.

DELETE IT!

[Ninaran]

Anybody checked Armadon (W) stacking? :scou:

[GGGGBBBB]

anyone getting connection errors? I was in a game and it dropped me, then i couldn't reconnect ._.

[Zahnfleisch]

ITS FOR EARLY GAME HARASS.

god, you are a fukn idiot.

by the time you get an attack modifier on slither, you're early game harass potential has diminished. slither was one of the best harassers in the game.

And he still is. Toxixity still deals magic damage.

I guess 100% regen-reduce was for early game, too? Slither is just as devastating late game.

Stop flaming and start thinking please.

[nickknife]

every fcking change is good except the hands of soulstealer, he lacks mana anyway....and im not just saying that because i tend to play him from time to time

[WindRaven]

Everything else kinda makes sense, but...

WTF bubbles got buttraped.

[TurtleBoats]

And he still is. Toxixity still deals magic damage.

I guess 100% regen-reduce was for early game, too? Slither is just as devastating late game.

Stop flaming and start thinking please.

the movement slow is what MADE him get extra attacks off. HERPADERP.

[showergel]

Oh man, we might stop seeing the same heroes all over the competitive games now. Which is nice.


And for those of us who suck at the game and play mid - low level matchmaking games, not much has changed.

[Monkeydude07]

Why the Behemoth nerf?

[Vortex]

Em, wait. Why cant I spawn alts in test mode. Are you srs, s2? What the ****?

[yug_modnar]

nice and courageous changes, quite nice
but cmon, another gold avatar so soon, stop milking us so had S2

[Naaiixx]

OMG b0NER AWDACZVSVSVSVSVSV

[TheOtherOne]

- Removed alt avatars from spawner in practice mode

****ers

[Valran]

Fayde still little too weak. Maybe skills damage buff? Oh... and this AoE slow could do some damage too.

Hatchet - AWESOME!

Other changes - Mostly Attack Mods no longer being Attack Mods... too bad no Vindi here. But still... Accu/Gaunt with new orb effects... nice.

Martyr's voice is... bad. Come on S2... you can do better than that...

[Clarry]

Andromeda nerf ?
Yeah, like she was too imba...

Being the arguably best support in the game doesn't require nerf.

[redeye998]

:behe: Behemoth
- Heavy Weight damage from 25/45/75/115 to 25/55/85/115
- Heavy Weight stun duration from 0.3/0.7/1.2/1.5 to 0.6/0.9/1.2/1.5
- Shockwave Magic damage for additional units from 35/45/65 to 35/45/55
- Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed


KID ME MORE

[Midnight__]

gj s2 it seems to me like you want to destroy the competitive scene.So many useless nerfs to andro,behe,tort,jere and especially slither since you nerfed his third skill already.I almost pissed myself when i saw the fayde rework it seems like a joke to me.Some of the changes are interesting but i totally dislike the hatchet rework.Accursed buff was never needed he was a fine support hero that was used in the competitive scene aswell and now its like you want him to play a carry role. I dont know why you nerfed andromeda he was a fine support.Poor behemoth as if it wasnt already hard to farm your pk now you mock him by nerfing the crap out of his ulti.Bubbles nerf was never needed you could easily lock him down him silence,dot damages etc.You buff legio even more probably the best hero to stomp with.In conclusion i've seen some good changes and some awfull one's the way things are heading i am praying for dota 2 to come out its like you drive your competitive scene to dota 2.

[man_guy]

-Soul Stealer and Bubbles actually touched. :O Can S2 man up and hit Flint?
-Item aura radii made consistent (finally).
-Hero skill attack modifiers all removed now with the exception of Magebane, Arachna, and Vindicator (Arachna is the only one it makes sense on anymore). Since Nullfire no longer propagates to illusions, it won't be imbalanced if the mana burn from Mana Combustion and Nullfire stacked on Magebane and would give him an alternate build path that isn't too inefficient.

[Aray]

left click to shop better be in there

[Utorrent]

oke, i found a bugg with hatchet already ;) now u can destroy trees from afar...... like 600 range from the tree......

FIX THIS S2!!

[Slut]

gj s2 it seems to me like you want to destroy the competitive scene.So many useless nerfs to andro,behe,
Nerfing heroes that are always picked = destroying the competitive scene...okay, back to kindergarten

[Slut]

oke, i found a bugg with hatchet already ;) now u can destroy trees from afar...... like 600 range from the tree......

FIX THIS S2!!

that's intended :)

[Kartalov]

1. The Fayde change is great.
2. The new hero looks awesome.
3. I don't like the bubbles change but it's probably more balanced because PK is core for bubbles.
4. The visual timers are also a great idea.
5. The aura radiuses.... no. Just no ...

[WastedMonkey]

nice patch
good job on the runed hatchet:RunedAxe:
and the new activation on loggers:LoggersHatchet:

[Frantz3n]

Gold avatar, Again?!

[puppapuppa]

now runed it's fantastic

[Sauron`]

1. The Fayde change is great.
2. The new hero looks awesome.
3. I don't like the bubbles change but it's probably more balanced because PK is core for bubbles.
4. The visual timers are also a great idea.
5. The aura radiuses.... no. Just no ...

No offense, but why would you complain about the Aura radius change?

[Wallabo]

Legionnaire
- Tower attacks may now proc Whirling Blade

This is a lie. Last patch I got killed by a lego's whirling blade when i was running away from him. NO CREEPS. Just my tower autoing him. I know i didnt right click him because i literally clicked on the pool because i didnt expect him to dive me. But i died.

[TruTs]

Hell yeah! A support hero that is willing to sacrifice himself to help others, I've created one at dream heroes with similar capability a while ago, but yours is much better. A f**ing priest, how didn't a think of that. Well, nice job, loved this one and also, the new fayde is pretty much rocking my heart too. Nice changes! There is only one thing that I didn't like on this patch, and it is the fact that I can not spawn alt avatars on the practice mode anymore, thats pretty lame, as I would test them out using the ingame zoom in/out feature to have a closer look at the models, test their animation when using skills or walking and comparing them with the original models.... well, well, nothing can be 100% perfect but u people are almost there! Go forthy to victory!

;D

[questarey]

great patch, love the nullfire change :)
fayde rework seems cool too.

don't really see why arma is buffed (altho it's almost nothing :P)

[TurtleBoats]

Hell yeah! A support hero that is willing to sacrifice himself to help others, I've created one at dream heroes with similar capability a while ago, but yours is much better. A f**ing priest, how didn't a think of that. Well, nice job, loved this one and also, the new fayde is pretty much rocking my heart too. Nice changes! There is only one thing that I didn't like on this patch, and it is the fact that I can not spawn alt avatars on the practice mode anymore, thats pretty lame, as I would test them out using the ingame zoom in/out feature to have a closer look at the models, test their animation when using skills or walking and comparing them with the original models.... well, well, nothing can be 100% perfect but u people are almost there! Go forthy to victory!

;D

1500 mmr congratulating that the changes are great.

shocking.

[Lolo]

hahaha awesome patch
cool Runed Axe...can't w8 to cut all the trees :D
cool fayde
cool FA
good work

[Midnight__]

if you cant see what i am saying you suck.we re not all from the us so our english cant be perfect

[KeY533]

finally something you can call a patch :D

good job S2

[Revenant]

faaayde :3

[Gangy]

Wtf guys why did you have to screw Jere :-/

Otherwise a great patch, I must say.

//Btw you need to start showing which account icons youve added when you add some, as finding them in shop is always a nightmare for everyone.

[X_Raider]

Think I dont like:

Behe nerf
Tort nerf
Fayde's new ability (kinda generic)
Slither toxicity no longer 100% no regen
Jera heal no longer true damage

Things I like:

Everything else!!!


Thanks for finally releasing a proper balance patch S2!

[Swip3r]

No sil nerf?
His harras is really way to strong.

[SSTHZero]

RIP
:slit:

[Launders]

I love s2 forever for the fayde rework.
GOOD RIDDANCE TO THOSE PIECE OF **** STANCES.

[Lethe]

ty S2, a lot of people have been waiting for a patch like this.

[r0xo]

Wow some people are just so damn stupid.

:behe::souls::phar::bubb::andr::slit::tort::pupp:: chip::thun:, all of them are perma pick/ban heroes, how does nerfing them destroy the competitive scene? Or how is nerfing them in any way a bad thing for the game? I keep having less and less faith in humanity each time I come to the forums because there is always some person who just doesnt think when he makes a comment.

This patch sounds great, love the changes and the amount of changes are really nice. Looks like you did a great job S2

Edit: To those who just said they dont like a change Im not saying your stupid, just referring to the people who act like its making the hero useless

[Nuguns]

dont ever screw with TB, he was perfect!

[tvdang7]

WHY change jer heal to magic damage? Now it will be useless against tanks damn.

[Ggrofl]

Why nerf the phro? :(

[Clarry]

1500 mmr congratulating that the changes are great.

shocking.

Being a total ass on the forums is okay for you why?

Anyway, the new hero is awesome, allmost as awesome as :sand::jera::dead::poll:

/applauds

[Vegetius]

VERY VERY VERY NICE PATCH.....of course the release is intended for keep freeplayers in hon also after 22may.... ;) .. very nice...


Alots of good stuff..... <3 also logger launch!
:D

[UffeK]

Holy **** awesome patch wtf d:

[ShiZzzz]

For those of you wondering about the andromeda changes, Andromeda is one of, if not THE, most picked/banned support in the game for a reason.

Also, I don't mind the torturer changes that much. You have to realize that his spells were quite spammable despite their ridiculous strength and versatility. Agonizing bonds was very strong (and still is) and was completely spammable. Due to this, torturer was practically unbeatable in a lane, be it trilane or solo. Any other hero was that strong a spell has 1/3 of his mana burned with each use.

Jere's changes weren't too bad. He got a range buff which is nice. Above all, it is a heal. Those of you looking for a first blood with a super strong aoe heal/nuke wont have the same dmg but youll have the range.

Slither is also one of the strongest laners in the game due to his harrasment with toxicity and such. The nerfs are welcome.

The bubbles change is somewhat strange but wont have too much of an effect. I think s2 should implement the puck change in the recent dota patch which makes his lvl1 silence duration 1 second instead of .1. Nonetheless, bubbles is still one of the strongest gankers/initiators in the game.

These changes help competitive scene in a sense that they encourage more unique team structures. You practically see the same heroes every other game. Those of you complaining that it "breaks" competitive play, all the patch helps to do is shake up the static nature of tournaments. You may feel safe and comfortable watching the same heroes in every match, but I for one invite clans to try different things, rather than rely on the same key picks to win games.

[aNyaQTpieLUV]

good patch overall but are there any news about fixing the mega-annoying 1sec lag/delay when opening shop/anything in it?

[Jobrieth]

Are you a 2000 PSR "pro" (PS: Matchmaking is where it's at. That's MMR, not PSR).

No?

Okay then. Until you want to comment on balance notes sensibly, don't bother flaming me, yeah?

I couldn't care less if you were 1000 PSR and 500 MMR. If you're posting trash, you're posting trash.

Moderators should not be trolling, isn't the point of moderating to keep things civil?

Need stricter rules with moderators s2.

[Hygao]

Long patch ;)

[nethergate]

Im completely disappointed with fayde... her 3rd ability is trash looking and doesnot fit the character, animation is just a fail, though she becomes a bit more useful as the game goes on she also becomes much weaker in early game especially her solo mid is broken for now - overall making her weaker with rework. you could buff it to be same damage block + some aura, no matter offensive or defensive type. Buff on ulti is unnecessary and retarded.

[Weasleface]

-Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

wow, wtf? thats really freaking gay...

****ing retarded. not Jera's heal late game is ****ing useless dmg wise...

And now a port key on bubbles is a terrible idea unless you have a storm spirit as well.

Dumb freaking idea, this sucks.

[Radiohead]

OH. MY. GOD. This is incredible!

[SOLSBLESSIN]

Jera nerf-- really?

[JilaX]

Terrible patch.
You claim to want to get the game to a more ganking/pushing focused metagame.
Yet you buff hard carries and nerf the heroes used in exciting strategies......
Makes perfect sense.
:arma:

[Pseudologic]

-Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

wow, wtf? thats really freaking gay...

****ing retarded. not Jera's heal late game is ****ing useless dmg wise...

And now a port key on bubbles is a terrible idea unless you have a storm spirit as well.

Dumb freaking idea, this sucks.

bubbles with PK was just accepted, doesn't mean it was balanced. It was so broken with shell surf take cover and pk. A good player is pretty much immortal with that.

(PK will still be core, you just have to take cover a fraction of seconds sooner to portal out)

[Dordanov]

Very good patch from the looks of it. I don't think there is a single in change in the patch that I don't understand balance-wise.

I'm only slightly disappointed there were no changes to Tremble, Nomad and Silhouette, but I guess that can be due to the fact they are still relatively new and you are still in the process of working out possible changes on the test servers.

At least you guys earned some of my respect back that was lost by the disappointing honiversary patch.

[ShiZzzz]

-Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

wow, wtf? thats really freaking gay...

****ing retarded. not Jera's heal late game is ****ing useless dmg wise...

And now a port key on bubbles is a terrible idea unless you have a storm spirit as well.

Dumb freaking idea, this sucks.

Jere is first and foremost a support/healer. His main role hasn't changed and he is still a strong hero. Besides, it got a slight range buff to compensate, which actually makes it a better heal than it was before, so I see it as a buff.

And no, the bubbles change does not make pk useless. TC may not synergize as well with pk but you have to remember that pk's main strength is that it gives bubbles godly initiating powers. pk in, combo, and shell out. This has not changed. Pk is still core.

[takuyaki]

mac still cant download it?

[Weasleface]

Jere is first and foremost a support/healer. His main role hasn't changed and he is still a strong hero. Besides, it got a slight range buff to compensate, which actually makes it a better heal than it was before, so I see it as a buff.

And no, the bubbles change does not make pk useless. TC may not synergize as well with pk but you have to remember that pk's main strength is that it gives bubbles godly initiating powers. pk in, combo, and shell out. This has not changed. Pk is still core.

LOL! 50 range is nothing... and the dmg will suck anyway when you do get that rare occation where 50 range really does make a difference.

[MO_okes]

Good job S2!

[Excil]

best patch notes ever, gotta play first tho.

[iWillAnHero]

ive got an issue.. the mm says the servers version doesnt match mine.. anyone else having this problem?

[Plasma491]

Spellshards jerry now.. Wooooo!

[mrmanth]

- 5 new icons


where are they?

[Supremenexo]

Says the 1480 player . . . OH WAIT IT'S A CLEVERLY DISGUISED ALT ACCOUNT.


Care to explain why, or are you satisfied with your garbage trolling?


This moderator, sigh...stop putting the community down, your a fking moderator.

On topic: best patch in a while

[dEph_]

Good patch, some needed changes. Fayde rework looks underwhelming on paper. I am still voting for her ult to give an illusion! Please!

[camaris]

Anyone already made out which hero is "Legionnaire of the week" ?

On topic: Good changes especially regarding Fayde (not yet tested), I'd like to see 90 mana on Soulstealer's hands.

[Gorb]

Moderators should not be trolling, isn't the point of moderating to keep things civil?

Need stricter rules with moderators s2.
Please state how I was trolling, bearing in mind I was responding to a trollish post on an alt account.

The point of moderators is to ensure that the rules are followed, as well as promote constructive discussion.

For example, this debate about the rules of the forum is more constructive than an alt account QQing about the balance changes.

[takuyaki]

mac still can't download it?

[plooop]

Thumb up!

[JilaX]

Also removed testing of Alt_Avatars in practise mode, so you can't test the product you want to buy before buying it.

Might want to add this in the patch notes.

[ShadowX7]

Shame :thun: got nerfed :(
Other than that, great patch

[barong]

help i cant update patch

[Tumultuous]

Shame :thun: got nerfed :(
Other than that, great patch

yeah...such a shame


*eyeroll*

[Ndo]

Finally a patch worthy to be called a patch. This should have been your anniversary patch BTW, with the addition of ARDM

[takuyaki]

mac still cant download it?

[MrPrism]

People saying that they don't like Slither's "nerf"

Now he can use attack modifiers. Frostburn going to be big on him now. That 10% really isn't that big of a deal and neither is the healing regen disable. Now you can put a Whispering Helm on him ;)

[takuyaki]

mac still cant download it???

[Vaez]

Ohh... And I was the one to buy TB and Bubbles skin yesterday. That's just GREAT -.-'

[FARP23]

READ RED
Version 2.0.30-------------
== Items ==

:Astrolabe: Astrolabe
- Aura radius to 900
- Activation radius increased from 450 to 600 NEEDED

:BarrierIdol: Barrier Idol
- Radius from 500 to 600 NICE

:ElderParasite: Elder Parasite
- Damage taken reduced from 20% to 15% NOOBS PRED AND CHRONOS WILL GET THAT ITEM OMG

:FrostfieldPlate: Frostfield Plate
- Aura radius from 1000 to 900 WHY THE NERF IS A EXPENSIVE ITEM :(

:LoggersHatchet: Logger's Hatchet
- Reworked slightly NICE CHANGE

:NullfireBlade: Nullfire Blade
- Upgraded version has infinite charges
- Cooldown increased from 12 to 20 seconds WOW :o

:PlatedGreaves: Plated Greaves
- Radius from 450 to 600 GOOD

:RestorationStone: Restoration Stone
- Mana cost reduced from 375 to 300 WAS NEEDED

:RunedAxe: Runed Cleaver
- Now can be used to cut down trees FUNNY :)

== Heroes ==

:accu: Accursed
- Sear is no longer an Attack modifier LIKE IT

:andr: Andromeda ONLY NERF?
- Mana cost of Comet from 95/110/125/140 to 110/120/130/140
- Aurora duration from 14/16/18/20 to 14 seconds
- Void Rip cooldown from 45/45/45 to 70/60/50

:arac: Arachna BUFFED...
- Mana cost of Harden Carapace from 90 to 50
- Harden Carapce Magic Armor from 5/10/18/35 to 8/16/24/32

:arma: Armadon BUFFED???
- Snot Storm armor reduction from 1/1/2/2 to 1/1.5/2/2.5

:behe: Behemoth
- Shockwave Magic damage for additional units from 35/45/65 to 35/45/55
- Shockwave Magic damage from corpses removed IF U DID THAT WHY CHANGE THE DAMAGE?

:bubb: Bubbles
- Take Cover duration reduced from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to .25/1/1.75/2.5, FINALLY BYE BYE PK

:chro: Chronos
- Time Leap movespeed slow from 10/20/30/40% to 22/28/34/40% THIS + ELDER... OVERPICKED BY NABS :s

:dark: The Dark Lady
- Taint Soul mana cost from 35/45/55/65 to static 35, NICE FARM :)

:empa: Empath
- Illusory Veil duration from 2/3/4/5 to 3/4/5/6, NICE CHANGE

:fayd: Fayde
- Reworked LIKED AND NEEDED

:fors: Forsaken Archer BEST CHANGE EVER
- Call of the Damned Skeletons TP with FA
- Split Shot reworked to basically be ranged cleave
* Main target takes full, 2 additional targets take 14/21/28/35% damage

:jera: Jeraziah WHYYYYYYYYYYYY, NO ONE WILL PICK THIS CRAPPY HERO NOW...(AND HE IS ONE OF THE LESS PICKED BTW)
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

:pand: Pandamonium BUFF? ARE U KIDDING RIGHT?...PANDA IS A **** CC HERO
- Cannonball stun duration from 0.75/1.25/1.75/2.25 to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25

:thun: Thunderbringer IM ****ING DISAGREE HE WAS A USELESS HERO LATE GAME, BUT NOW EARLY? NAH REVERT THIS PLZ
- Lightning Rod damage from 5/7/9/11% to 3/5/7/9%

:tort: Torturer NERF+NERF....
- Chain Reaction manacost increased from 100/125/140/165 to 120/135/150/165
- Impalement manacost increased from 95/120/135/155 to 115/130/145/160
- Agonizing bonds damage reduced from 80/145/205/265 to 80/140/200/260
- Agonizing Bonds targets lowered from 3/5/6/7 to 3/4/5/6
- Agonizing Bonds pull radius reduced from 650 to 600

:witc: Witchslayer NOOBS GOING POWER DRAIN BEFORE MINI SAD :(
- Power Drain rescaled drain from 20/40/60/100 mana per second to 25/50/75/100

[takuyaki]

mac still cant download it?

[Time2Play]

Lovely patch!

[MrPrism]

Just noticed the -10% on Life Void. That hurts O_O

[asarja]

:ElderParasite: Elder Parasite
- Damage taken reduced from 20% to 15%

I bet this change was made just for DivA's Kraken guide.

[Dantarios]

Electrician still showing 150 mana cost for Energy Absortion

[RCNcoldtea]

Please state how I was trolling, bearing in mind I was responding to a trollish post on an alt account.

The point of moderators is to ensure that the rules are followed, as well as promote constructive discussion.

For example, this debate about the rules of the forum is more constructive than an alt account QQing about the balance changes.

lol scrub

[Sordak]

love the changes on loggers and fayde

hating the changes on bubbles, jeraziah and Torturer i dont see any reason for this. I know the whole take cover + PK thing but still i dislike the change.
And the change on Jeraziahs inner light is horrible.

[Batchman]

wtf is with practice? u want us to buy avatars without knowing how they look?

[Sonnee]

Jeraziah :jera:
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

Ohhh yes..icum =]

[Scydow]

Amazing patch!

[Lyn`]

Continuously impressed with the balance changes, great patch!

[iLLiNiWeK]

So the new patch is crazy unstable on my mac. Tried to play a game and crashed 5-6 times within 30 seconds of reconnecting and finally gave up. What to do with my day now :(

[tuxator]

Due to a patching issue, the Mac and Linux patches will be much larger than normal. We apologize for this ahead of time.

uhm, some details please: just "wrong packaging"? Or did you fix something aside from the things mentioned in the log, only affecting linux/mac users?

[Corpsy]

I lol'd with Fayde remake, she was easy to pwn with even before this.

Rapes inc.

[Yurixy]

omg fayde!!!

[FARP23]

I like the patch...
except:

:thun:, :jera:

[Decatf]

S2 y u nerf Torturer again. QQ.

[_23Chxt]

that 10% slow on slither that was rip off was wrong :/

[K4D0]

what are the 5 new icons? i cant see them

[Sak]

I'm just posting to see my account icon/Chat Symbol/Signature trifecta. Cool.

[Onkelffs]

READ RED READ YELLOW
:jera: Jeraziah WHYYYYYYYYYYYY, NO ONE WILL PICK THIS CRAPPY HERO NOW...(AND HE IS ONE OF THE LESS PICKED BTW) He had the highest win percentage in the game and 1.2% picked, this doesn't affect competitive play much - since they use his magic shield http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/hero_use.php?sort=winpct
- Inner Light from True Damage to Magic Damage

:pand: Pandamonium BUFF? ARE U KIDDING RIGHT?...PANDA IS A **** CC HERO Biggest lost percentage and have been there a long time http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/hero_use.php?sort=losspct
- Cannonball stun duration from 0.75/1.25/1.75/2.25 to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25

:thun: Thunderbringer IM ****ING DISAGREE HE WAS A USELESS HERO LATE GAME, BUT NOW EARLY? NAH REVERT THIS PLZ He is permapicked/banned in competitive since with a little level advantage he is dominating throughout the whole game - nerf justifiable.
- Lightning Rod damage from 5/7/9/11% to 3/5/7/9%

4char

[BasedGod420]

Behemoth nerf made me qq irl

[Denis]

Behe, Slith and Pharaoh nerf. Me sad panda. :(

[takuyaki]

why i can't download the new patch?

[sog]

Kind of a huge nerf to slither.

Slither was already not a super powerful hero and now toxicity only lowers healing to 80%.

That means you can now port scroll back to base if you get ulted and dotted and the fountain will save you, whereas before if you got toxicity on you you would die since the fountain didn't heal until it was off.

[Jeffk1]

Now everyone can be MORAXUS if you own a LOG HATCHET!
LoL <3 I CANT FIND THE THUMBS UP BUTTON :mora:

[Minzy4Ever]

This patch looks absolutely amazing. Things like this are what keep me coming back to S2, great company, constant improvements.

[Mulaaks]

Seems to me like S2 just nerfed some of the most popular/strongest picks in the competitive scene ATM like :tort: :andr: :chip: and :phar:, by increasing their cooldowns/manacost on their spells. IMO this is the wrong way to do it, just buff the non-viable picks a bit, like you did with :fayd: (although I haven't seen her in action yet), and It'll all even out in the end.

[colondee]

Are you a 2000 PSR "pro" (PS: Matchmaking is where it's at. That's MMR, not PSR).

No?

Okay then. Until you want to comment on balance notes sensibly, don't bother flaming me, yeah?

I couldn't care less if you were 1000 PSR and 500 MMR. If you're posting trash, you're posting trash.

i wonder why s2 keep promoting such agressive, hostile and offensive "people" to moderators

Thank you s2 for a patch, hero picks were static for some time now

[Jeffk1]

poor, poor, keeper, ranged tree chop 15 sec cd. Tree sight 75 sec cd minimum. No wards for keeper since you can see his tree sight as enemy from about 600 radius away? Hopefully I'm wrong for listening to the one who said the tree chop was ranged.

[Puro]

OMFG FINALLY we get a fix for the old shop since the new one laggs and all that.
Oh wait..

gg

[Berethorn]

Cool patch, thanks s2 :)

[EchseKuhTor]

fayde - the new bloodhunter

[Kaishink]

Good work with fayde! =]

[Marmiteifa]

Behemot's nerf is really sad...

Plz, put him staff with damages with dead corpses plz

[FiNGERS]

****ing awesome patch S2, you've outdone yourselves.

[aceracerff]

:tort::

Before: No love from anyone hardly ever played.

Nerf TPs -> 1st picked all the time, extremely viable. Push strats ftw, :poll:+:tort:+Trilane was a sweet strategy for a little bit.

Nerf -> back to obscurity? We shall see...



Also, I'm suprised to see such a harsh nerf to :andr: and such a modest one to :hell:... and by modest I mean its a buff. This guy is PERMAbanned... and I guess if you guys are fine with that then leave him as is. The rest of the patch really seems like you guys had the competitive metagame in mind though, which is very very impressive and appreciated. Overall great patch.