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Vodka
09-23-2009, 01:26 PM
1. Kraken ult + portal key
2. Tempest prepares a meteor and ults
3. Voodoo Jester lays down his damage amp + ult
4. Plague Rider Ults
5. Madman goes crazy.
6. ????
7. Profit!

Discuss.

Vadi
09-23-2009, 01:28 PM
Outpicked, and why were they group hugging to begin with.

Phireman
09-23-2009, 01:30 PM
worst thread ever. Nearly every team can wipe the other team,, but what happens if chronos, magmus, magebane, pyro and another random gets the ulti first?

I mean,, wtf lol thread.

Enreign
09-23-2009, 01:33 PM
A two man combo of

Tempest
+
Slither/Soulstealer/Magmus/Behemoth/Voodoo Jester/Plague Rider/Torturer

is pretty much all you need.

Extra AoE is frankly unnecessary.

dune
09-23-2009, 01:38 PM
5 Thunderbringers, all with Staff of the Master, Beast Heart, Sacrificial Stone (with 30 charges ldo) etc.

Guaranteed.

Extreme_Cake
09-23-2009, 01:38 PM
1. Pick Night Hound/Chronos/Scout/Magebane/Swiftblade (I mean as a team, not individually)
2. Farm all game
3. ???
4. Profit

Voulture
09-23-2009, 01:39 PM
The 5 thunderbringer combo is easily countered by 10 thunderbringers with 2x behe or with 10 red dragons.

dune
09-23-2009, 02:00 PM
The 5 thunderbringer combo is easily countered by 10 thunderbringers with 2x behe or with 10 red dragons.

Bugger, I completely forgot that.

Enreign
09-23-2009, 02:07 PM
a billion flying couriers with codex 5s

Servitor
09-23-2009, 02:09 PM
A tempest once grabbed all 5 of their team, I used my Vodoo's Cursed ground, and rape. Only 2 escaped curse, who I killed with my ultimate. (They were all of course getting damage from the temest's ult, stack is huge with curse)

hewke
09-23-2009, 03:19 PM
5 Thunderbringers, all with Staff of the Master, Beast Heart, Sacrificial Stone (with 30 charges ldo) etc.

Guaranteed.


I like your thinking.

Trazgo
09-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Shrunken Head, Headresses, or Idol Barriers > "Guaranteed Team Wipe" AoE-Strategies

The damage is gone, only Tempest's disable remains in the case of Shrunken head, or all disables in the case of Headresses and Idol Barriers.

bartmasta
09-23-2009, 06:31 PM
pick arachna obviously

elNiuBi
09-23-2009, 06:33 PM
Get laid. If you do, who cares if you win or lose...

dune
09-23-2009, 06:37 PM
Get laid. If you do, who cares if you win or lose...

More wins = bigger e-penis = more e-women

QED.

Geomancer
09-23-2009, 06:58 PM
Tempest + AoE is free genocide

Enreign
09-23-2009, 07:15 PM
Shrunken Head, Headresses, or Idol Barriers > "Guaranteed Team Wipe" AoE-Strategies

The damage is gone, only Tempest's disable remains in the case of Shrunken head, or all disables in the case of Headresses and Idol Barriers.
Replace with Hammerstorm and Jereziah

elevator13
09-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Tempest + AoE is free genocide
blankquot

Kietharr
09-23-2009, 07:24 PM
5 Thunderbringers, all with Staff of the Master, Beast Heart, Sacrificial Stone (with 30 charges ldo) etc.

Guaranteed.

Did this once, end score was like 100-13 or something. Except we got retarded items after staff because all we had to do was coordinate our ults and it was a genocide. I pioneered the thunderbringer thunderclaw strat that game, it rules.

ForumTroll
09-23-2009, 07:32 PM
Kraken + Post Haste.
Ulti and port to a creep in a wave of creeps the entire enemy team is about to clear (they won't kill that creep if they see a single person trying to port to it.
Pull entire enemy team to the back of your fountain. Where you're waiting with the rest of your team.






Only works once per game, make it count.

Vodka
09-24-2009, 03:02 AM
Kraken + Post Haste.
Ulti and port to a creep in a wave of creeps the entire enemy team is about to clear (they won't kill that creep if they see a single person trying to port to it.
Pull entire enemy team to the back of your fountain. Where you're waiting with the rest of your team.






Only works once per game, make it count.

That would actually be pretty effective, especially if you can get like only 2-3 of them, wipe them out, and push 5v3 or 5v2...

ForumTroll
09-24-2009, 03:46 AM
That would actually be pretty effective, especially if you can get like only 2-3 of them, wipe them out, and push 5v3 or 5v2...

Even if you get all 5, they get the magic damage from Kraken's ulti so they're all lower health than your team to begin with, they have the fountain tower shooting at them (which hurts like hell), all 5 of your team are being healed at a ridiculous rate, plus they have no idea WTF just happened so their coordination is a thing of the past. Plus if they want to retreat they have to run past 2-3 more towers in your base.

More than likely even if you pull all 5 of the enemy team, you wont suffer a single casualty and will genocide them with ease.


edit: ew I think they fixed it, doesnt seem to work anymore

Vodka
09-24-2009, 03:53 AM
Even if you get all 5, they get the magic damage from Kraken's ulti so they're all lower health than your team to begin with, they have the fountain tower shooting at them (which hurts like hell), all 5 of your team are being healed at a ridiculous rate, plus they have no idea WTF just happened so their coordination is a thing of the past. Plus if they want to retreat they have to run past 2-3 more towers in your base.

More than likely even if you pull all 5 of the enemy team, you wont suffer a single casualty and will genocide them with ease.



Unfortunately you need your ulti at level 1 and really fast reactions to pull it off.

The casting delay on his ult now goes up to 4/5/6 seconds, so you still get up to 3 seconds to position after teleporting.

Kraken can actually work very well for countering strong AoE teams with the likes of tempest and behemoth by separating them from the team if done correctly (saw this happen in a game today) and killing their most dangerous player(s). It won't work 100% of the time, but it's a good gamble when you don't have many answers to tempest's ult and want to get it out of the way.

ForumTroll
09-24-2009, 04:04 AM
I edited my post before you posted that :(

Larpstah
09-24-2009, 04:51 AM
I think the whole idea behind getting 'genocide' is to deal damage fast enough in a team fight and to not let enemy team react, since any half assed player will try to b when getting severely outnumbered.

Heroes that actually can pull this off could be:
- Tempest
- Voodoo Jester (dmg amp, wtf ward)
- Plague Rider (or what ever, lich port, his ulti coupled with aoe stun/tempest ulti can actually do some good dmg)
- Behemoth (corpse damage nerf on his ulti hurts a bit)
- Kraken (though i don't see him as a big player in this field, whirlpool isn't THAT good)
- Magebane (ulti can actually catch ppl pants down at mid game)
- Zeus (incredible AoE abilities due rod and ulti)
- Soul Reaper (heartstopper aura, spammable aoe with team heal, good at finishing heroes)
also, any sort of slow/chasing abilities help at killing survivors after the fight, these heroes could be:
- Pubhunter (silence, hemorrhage)
- Scout (yea why not, though his ulti is good for initiating ganks too)
- Blinking heroes such as Chronos and MB, though Chronos seems more superior with his stun/sphere
- Puppet Master (for hold, burst dmg via whiplash and ulti)
- SR again because of his ulti

Minimix
09-24-2009, 06:18 AM
You can do it with my new favorite legi build!
All you need to get is portal key, barbed armor and charged hammer.
Buff yourself with lightning, blink into enemy heroes, activate barbed armor and watch them kill themselves.

Sketch88
09-24-2009, 06:23 AM
no you need 5 thunderbringers all with restoration stone... genocide....wow rez time ugh...GENOCIDE, wait wut?

Tamachan
09-24-2009, 07:23 AM
Step 1. Do not be **** at HoN
Step 2. ??????
Step 3. Profit....

fdf_gekido
09-24-2009, 09:16 AM
had a game yesterday we had tempest, sandking and luna

GaIactic
09-24-2009, 02:24 PM
Tempest + Madman with lvl 3 ult, 5 runed axes and a wingbow.

^_-;