Anyone else feel dirty after playing well with the new scout?

[Tsang]

Well the title says it all.... Everytime I do well with scout I feel so dirty, like I just did something wrong.... Lol

[Drasha]

Thou shall not play scout.

Jesus kills a kitten every time a player picks scout.

[iblameCOCO]

Thou shall not play scout.

Jesus kills a kitten every time a player picks scout.

true story

[PvtPublic]

It's like S2 wanted to make up for the time that people thought that their beloved Savage 2 scout was useless so they made him incredibly broken.

[Drasha]

It's like S2 wanted to make up for the time that people thought that their beloved Savage 2 scout was useless so they made him incredibly broken.
He only feels broken because we are so used to him being ignorable and worthless. Now he is worth the 125 gold for dust to kill him. He is how ever not worth the 200g for wards to kill him.

[ForumTroll]

I've not played a SINGLE GAME where someone has not chosen Scout since the patch, and I've played a LOT x10 of games since scout was beefed up.

Personally haven't played him, as he disgusts me.

[Zoneseek]

I've never actually played the scout, ever. He's one of those chars that seems like a 1 note pony to me, never surprising always played the same way when im against him. Never really felt the need to learn how to play him as I don't believe it will really change how I fight against him. Eventually ill random to him I guess...

[Valor2002]

I havent play Scout yet and I wont do it in the future!

[vontrev]

Thou shall not play scout.

Jesus kills a kitten every time a player picks scout.
this

[Tsang]

I have been accomplice to many a kitten murder then :(

[Tempered]

Picking scout is fine. 4 in vanish, 4 in disarm, 3 in mark shot and 10 in attribute points make me punch babies though.


(For the dumb theres 0 points in the aoe silence, stealth revealing wards)

[Trazgo]

Picking scout is fine. 4 in vanish, 4 in disarm, 3 in mark shot and 10 in attribute points make me punch babies though.


(For the dumb theres 0 points in the aoe silence, stealth revealing wards)


Wardless Scouts go right next to Booboo-less Wildsouls in this special place in my heart that's reserved for blind, passionate hate.

[Babycakes]

I feel naughty.

I'm used to getting spanked as scout, so it may be conditioned.

[lolsroyce]

I'll admit that when I have no PSR at stake, I pick scout just because its fun to run around the map at warp speed.

[_s1m_]

bound eye wards scout go bye bye

[CheshireKat]

I actually really enjoy the new scout. He seems like the quick agi type hero I play in most games. assassin type characters, but with a price. speed over surviveability and he has that.

He offers map control. (helps with runes) can setup great teamfights (with his silence) has great melee potential now. He's alot of fun, people need to get used to the new scout, he's a whole new bag of tricks.

But I agree, shoot any scout who doesn't get electric eyes first. I always try to keep my team aware of runes and even ping them when they spawn.

[Isin]

I always kick ass with the new scout... even in srsbsns games... o____o


bound eye wards scout go bye bye

Electric Eye, wards go bye bye.

Silence, disarm, ZOMGWTFBURSTDAMAGE, eye goes bye bye.

[PoopyDesires]

bound eye wards scout go bye bye

Yeah because if Scout is seen he automatically dies not like stealth gives him max movespeed and unitwalking and 4 instant attacks and he's stilla beastly DPS with amazing scalability and the ability to completely disable any carry as well as having total map control and a silence that can be used while disabled or anything.

Good thing those aren't in effect or Scout would be an above par hero!

o wate

[Megan_Fox]

Yeah because if Scout is seen he automatically dies not like stealth gives him max movespeed and unitwalking and 4 instant attacks and he's stilla beastly DPS with amazing scalability and the ability to completely disable any carry as well as having total map control and a silence that can be used while disabled or anything.

Good thing those aren't in effect or Scout would be an above par hero!

o wate



BAD:eek:

[PieExplosion]

inc 5v5 Scout only

[arcainic]

has anyone played a 5v5 game with scouts only?

[lolsroyce]

That'd be sweet if you unstealthed to do a little farming then all of a sudden you got hit with 5 arrows like you were getting executed by a firing squad.

[Dio]

the worst part is that the level 3 arrow will take of 30% of your hp so 4 arrows is inta gibbed^^

[Capoeira1]

i played 4v4 against 4 scouts

I was Arachna with wards... it got ugly

[vaccine]

Wardless Scouts go right next to Booboo-less Wildsouls in this special place in my heart that's reserved for blind, passionate hate.

I played with one on my team last night. We actually somehow won due to us holding them off 4v5 for 1 hour until some ungodly uber farmed scout came in and genocided their team, but it was annoying that he didn't use a single eye all fight despite us playing Behmoth/Tempest combo with portal keys.

Then again I have to admit the time I played with Wildsoul I got so fed up of the bear I stopped using it late game :(

[spzmt]

I played with one on my team last night. We actually somehow won due to us holding them off 4v5 for 1 hour until some ungodly uber farmed scout came in and genocided their team, but it was annoying that he didn't use a single eye all fight despite us playing Behmoth/Tempest combo with portal keys.

Then again I have to admit the time I played with Wildsoul I got so fed up of the bear I stopped using it late game :(

seriously, if scout gets dps items and a bkb he's basically a death machine.

[Ass_Fister]

yep just farm hellflower for soloing + dps and then a shieldbreaker and later smth for stun and you'll just own ... take care not to play against nh and pest or tb = sure death or kick by your team ...

[Mephs]

He's good now, still incredibly squishy but a lot better. Its like saying Arachna is OP 1v1 and fed. Almost any agi will perform great if they're fed though.

[CptJesus]

Thou shall not play scout.

Jesus kills a kitten every time a player picks scout.

Yes I do.

[PoopyDesires]

BAD:eek:


If you're going to try to insult me like this, you're really just insulting yourself more by clearly acknowledging your own stupidity ;]

[Tempered]

yep just farm hellflower for soloing + dps and then a shieldbreaker and later smth for stun and you'll just own ... take care not to play against nh and pest or tb = sure death or kick by your team ...

scout wards counter nighthound, esp now that you can have 5 up at a time. Also hellflower? thats 5k gold. Youd be better off saving another 1k gold and getting a wingbow or buying a shieldbreaker before that. not like scout has major mana problems and he has wards for his silence..

[Laster]

i think scout now is a little op, cause every time i played with him a made more or less 15/6:D and before that i just get 10/x:rolleyes: (depend on enemy team), it's just so easy, there is no fun if i got scout.... but if i dont i lose the game -.-'
i vote for a nerf on scout!

[laycast]

delete scout

[Tboy]

Scout was made for dominating EM games--you know, for those too concerned about their uber KDRs and PSRs.

Sniper was a noob favorite (easy ult ks), while Gondar though great if played correctly, is a situational hero. They gave this illegitimate child his own EotF with silence and a broken passive that easily comes on top of all morph attacks. What have you done?

I say bring down the percentage of the passive interrupt and reduce the "stun duration." It's unstoppable right after Scout breaks invis because it will always trigger after flurry--and you won't be able to react cuz you're already dead.

[Zoneseek]

my buddy decided to try the new scout after the patch and all he got was a bunch of ridicule from both teams

i guess that's another unwritten rule that was left out of the patch notes - you are not allowed to try the scout!

[KSteal4Lols]

He only feels broken because we are so used to him being ignorable and worthless. Now he is worth the 125 gold for dust to kill him. He is how ever not worth the 200g for wards to kill him.

I think he's a bit strong, however that is amplified by the fact that NOBODY in pubs wants to spend money on things that don't directly benefit their stats.

I'm sure if dust had a buff that gave +1 str every time it's used on a hero with stealth people would be buying it left and right and fighting over who gets to use it.

However that's not the case, so scout will remain insanely op unless s2 decides to debuff him so he's not op without dust and thus making scout worthless.

[Lee_K]

u naughty boy

[KnightDavion]

He prolly will get nerfed but not in the ways you thinks. Right now his images can disarm. If thats intended well gl beating a scout + manta with any other agi or str hero.

[Kossuranta]

Usually now when scout is in team he just camp and ks as much as possible. Then he will get way higher lvl than anyone else and start soloing. Last game scout allways waited for 10% left -> ks -> vanish and away. We wanted to kick him from our team cause that was not fun, but someone allways didnt pass. After some time scout was lvl 20 and everyone else 12-15 and he just simply went stealth and killed enemys with 5 hits or tanks 5hits and bow. If someone try to help when scout is soloing he just runs away and stealths -> without arachna you cant do a thing he just runs away like maniac.

I think scout should be deleted cause noobs allways use it for ks and ffs I hate that specially when he starts whining "Why you noobs are so low lvl and don't have kills". We try to kick and whole our team pass, but one enemy won't accept and we are stuck with that noob.

[CHR0N0S]

I think scout should be deleted cause noobs allways use it for ks and ffs I hate that specially when he starts whining "Why you noobs are so low lvl and don't have kills". We try to kick and whole our team pass, but one enemy won't accept and we are stuck with that noob.

Whisper the enemy support, tell him to buy dust and whisper when he has to activate it ---> dead scout.


... wow... sattisfying good anti noob idea




... really it's sattisfying when you see a noob loudmouth die so often =D, if the match is lost, have fun anyway, kill a noob !

[Obi2k4]

He needs to have his mana regen turned off while in stealth.

[Thaeron]

I like playing Scout, and i'm new to the game. But i like his play-style, i love being able to run at that speed, arrive at a fight in a couple of seconds or being able to gank just s fast, but i still have to learn how to properly use it's Wards during fights. But i follow some rules:

- I'm not that kind of Scout player that's frenetically clicking his portrait as soon as i get to the Hero picking screen. I wait until the last moment to pick him, so i'm sure there's no easy counter for him. Like i said, i'm still a noob, i still don't know how to properly counter counters so if there's something like Pest on the other team i'll just stick with something less squishy.
- First and Fourth Skill Point: Electric Eye. I don't know how other Scout players feel about it, but i read this in some Scout guides and i found it really important. One ward in each rune site, this way i'm aware of runes AND the most common early game gank path. I think it helps a lot myself and my team. The extra Ward i save for silences.
- If a big fight is abotu to start i position myself far from it, unstealth and Ult the most dangerous target of the other team. It'll take around 40% of his HP and slow him making a lot easir for my team to kill him. Also the the first target that should die will probably be an Initiator/Disabler, like Tempest, and taking an arrow will scare him enough for him to back up even a little bit. That'll most of the time break their formation and delay their strike, giving my group the opportunity to start the fight themselves unleashing THEIR initiators first and more precisely. Uncloaking first THEN using the Ult makes my Cloak CD to end sooner after i let the arrow loose, allowing me to join the fight faster. Just make sure you uncloak far enough from the other team and that there's little to no possibility of a enemy hero seeing you first. Also, depending on how the fight goes, maybe i'll have my Ult up again to finish some runner.

Even tough Bound Eye isn't Scouts bane it does make him a lot easier to kill. Most Scouts are too overconfident to buy Shrunken Head, any defensive gear or actually CHECK if anyone from the other team got pissed enough to buy an Eye. The team should just walk together, he'll run around you thinking no one is seeing him, you just disable him and gang-bang him. Noob Scouts won't have a clue what to do after that and will avoid ganking you at all.

Like i said, i'm still a new player, don't know if those little strategies i use are really that correct, but they work for me in pubs.

[`Cherry`]

new scout ? He didn't change in the last patch, did he ?

[JimmyD]

Ironically, I played Scout before they buffed him. Like, the day before they did it. After the buff, I just, couldn't play him anymore. They made me their primary everytime :(