who is the best lane harasser/babysitter?

[banready]

consider

1. range of auto
2. how much damage
3. utility, cooldown and manacost of spells

[Vulpes]

If you're just talking about Harass-Ability, Slither is #1, Hellbringer close 2nd.
However, both are generally too item dependant to run hardsitter roles and are better off solo themselves.
:glac: :deme: :plag: are all at around the same babysitting level. Choose whoever benefits your lineup the best.

[FreestyleZ]

nymph more foor her heals as her auto is complete ****. also vj babysits well also, a good auto + stuns and heals.

[Decayed]

lol one word vindi

[Tzaa]

Depends on who you are laning with really. If you have a laning partner with kill potential, say a :pand: it will ofcourse benefit to have a stun or disable and decent attack-range...

And as said above, whatever benefits the line-up.

[papwned]

:hell: mad dmg, mad attack range, mad attack animation, can afford to be extra aggressive due to life void

:glac: mad attack range mad attack animation, a slow, a ministun/grasp

:plag: mad move speed, a slow

:deme: mad attack range, mad attack animation, a heal, another heal, a slow, decently awesome move speed

:vood: mad dmg, mad attack range, a stun, a heal

[insert empath pic] mad attack range, mad attack animation, can afford to be extra aggressive due to w/e her 1st skill is called, wall is also great

:scou: looks scary

EDIT: slither is a **** house harasser and should never be run in a passive lane unless your playing ar

[daroach1414]

slither is best harasser, by far.

[NakedMouse]

Dsham is awesome, especially since he makes good use of an early ring of the teacher (built later into nomes). After that, voodoo is probably a close second.

Plague can be nice, but babysitting nerfs him a bit since he is pretty scary with a solo level advantage. Also, if you are against an aggressive lane with nice stuns and/or nukes, they might be able to ignore you and just rape your baby since he has no real stun or heal.

If you want to babysit a ranged carry or semi-carry, like maybe corrupted or FA, you might consider accursed (or even jereziah). They take care of harassment while you heal and shield them to negate counter harassment.

[DarkAgonizer]

:myrm:

[`Abstract]

Plague, Slither and Mym are the best imo. WS too.

[QKO]

If you're just talking about Harass-Ability, Slither is #1, Hellbringer close 2nd.
However, both are generally too item dependant to run hardsitter roles and are better off solo themselves.

I'm almost 100% sure I'm feeding a troll here but lets make sure everyone else is on the same page: NEITHER NEED FARM. Both of them make excellent babysitters because they don't need any items.

Hellbringer's core costs 500(RoT)+500(Marchers)+540(PSupply)+510(Bracer) = 2050 gold after that you can get a barbed armor(2200) and you're done for the remainder of the match; you got everything you need to stay relevant. Most other heroes pay that for just 1 item. And if your team is winning you're getting bags of gold that you won't even be able to spend.

Slither is a similar story, plated greaves, powersupply and nome's wisdom and you're basically done. Yes you can get additional items like spellshards, sotm, geometers, etc but you don't need too.

[Vulpes]

You're terrible. Thanks.

[`shook]

Yea what the hell was he thinking, if you don't play every hero like hes played in competetive tournaments you are a retard.

[QKO]

Yea what the hell was he thinking, if you don't play every hero like hes played in competetive tournaments you are a retard.
It's goes even further, if the competitive players aren't using those heroes to babysit, they are simply retarded.

[FreestyleZ]

I don't get why people aren't considering nymph as a good baby sitter, especially in a lane with madman for example who can keep up a constant spam of his abilities due to nymphs mana regen

[Okuu]

Definately Slither and Hellbringer
The first one for obvious reasons
The second for his awesome attack animation, death boil and free double tap he gives to his carry at lvl 6

[Mankrik]

You're terrible. Thanks.

Pretty sure this was directed at Angrytrooper.

Maybe the op.

[QKO]

Pretty sure this was directed at Angrytrooper.

Maybe the op.
He knows.


I don't get why people aren't considering nymph as a good baby sitter, especially in a lane with madman for example who can keep up a constant spam of his abilities due to nymphs mana regen
Well, her heal got nerfed, but before that and now for the most part as well, she makes better use as a ganker. Zeal+Heal+few autoattacks is sure to kill nearly anyone. It's the relatively new pebbles combo.

[sk1llz4]

Slither, Hellbringer, Demented Shaman and Voodoo Jester.

[Dredrick]

Hellbringer is a much better babysitter than slither. The problem is Slither's attack range, if I'm against a slither with a 600 range hero, I can bait out his auto attacks, force him to push the lane trying to hit me, and take shots at him when he wont be able to hit back. In a 1v1 situation Slither wins, but trying to fight for farm for the carry, Hellbringer is better.

My personal favorite babysitter is Demented Shaman, but Voodoo and Hellbringer are better harassers. When Empath first came out she was imba as **** for a while with her Lifelink harass.

[Chinekafon]

if u want a killing lane i should say:
:pupp::slit:
lvl 2 its a sure kill, puppet now can carry so damn hard. but is what is really nice in this lane is that once puppet got wispering helm he goes to jungle and gank time to time and slither can solo for a few minutes(a competent slither)...

[scoutTier]

Slither > Hb as a babysitter , better free harass and more likely to get kills

Hb is not item dependent, but he is level dependent

[Ogrim]

just cause no one is saying it, tort is a great babysitter when paired with the right lane partner... however he is more of a ganker than a babysitter. I simply mean he can stack and not take farm if you don't try to play him as a semi carry (which i personally do not like to do), while throwing down great harrass or and ganking.

[Anakha]

Slither/Venomancer is hardly farm-dependant, Vulpes.

[Vulpes]

He's too farm dependant for a Hardsitter Role. I've tried Roaming him and you notice the lack of Items VERY easily.
Yes, it works to a certain extend (particulary if you hardfarm for some minutes after laning phase), thats why I wrote "generally".

[Mankrik]

Slither can benefit from farm at certain thresholds (phase boots, vanguard, geos) and goes from a walking ult/warder to a large contributor to teamfights. And fortunately he doesn't need to get these items with any particular form of haste because he's not actually trying to carry.

Hellbringer either does best with almost no farm (barbed/boots, astrolabe or glowstone if you get good assist gold) or fairly significant amounts (cheesy barbed/harkons or a more solid frostwolf/nullstone or resto stone). I would agree with the assertion that slither is generally more item-dependent than most babysitters and that hellbringer can produce more impact out of farm than voodoo, ds, plague, glacius, or witch.

[Stokkolm]

I tend to think the whole reason why slither is run solo is because he needs levels. Item-wise he could do fine with just boots, RotT and some hp.

Also, vindicator with lore.

[Farosarg]

Slither benefits from farm to almost same extent as Soul Reaper does. I do often end up playing Slither as roamer or a pure support/babysitter but the lack of items does show. Having your face blown off before you can get anything useful off in a teamfight limits the hero a lot. He can however prevent opponents from touching your carry if played correctly.

[Kleech]

Plague Rider if facing a lane with 0-1 stuns.
:plag::madm:
:plag::mage:
:plag::chro:

Witch Slayer otherwise.
:witc::glad:
:witc::dark:
:witc::chro:

[WindRaven]

Slither is probably has the most powerful harass, just out of the nature of his skills, his free orb, his slow, his wards... just so guud.

Arachna's orbwalking and high damage is actually really tough to deal with, for a similar reason to slither, except arach has 600 range.

Aluna has a massive damage and super long range line nuke that's fairly easy to hit, she also has 600 range and one of the most damaging lvl 1 autoattacks.

Those are probably my top 3.

[SCM]

When I am playing slither and I know I'm going to be supporting, often times I'll ignore poison wards except for maybe a point at level 5, but I try and max toxicity for harassing.

2-1-2-3-2-5-2

15dmg/sec at early stages is pretty beast for continuous attacks.

[Murgatroyd]

Empath is really really annoying to lane against