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bartmasta
09-18-2009, 01:06 PM
I usually play meele classes and his hp regen from his skill is just too great

Skibbi
09-18-2009, 01:08 PM
bring his health down to zero

CassiveMock
09-18-2009, 01:08 PM
This isnt a 1v1 game.

Drasha
09-18-2009, 01:18 PM
Arachna get a frost wolfs skull and phase boots and kite his ass all over the map.

theqat
09-18-2009, 01:18 PM
Yep--don't fight him 1v1

r00kie
09-18-2009, 01:29 PM
1v1 melee you are pretty much screwed if it's late game..

Animist
09-18-2009, 01:30 PM
If you mean that you will play against someone who will most certainly pick Predator one on one then it's not too hard. Like someone else said, Arachna (and Viper in Dota are solid 1v1 choices... Great early game harass and scales well until late game.

At level 5 you can kill the dude already but if you're really good, you can chip away at level 3.

Predator's main strength though is 1 vs. 1... so you need to counter with another solid 1 vs. 1 hero. And always remember that homecoming stone is your friend... Once he leaps at you and goes stone hide and ulti and all just TP immediately if you can't take him 1 vs. 1. Let your team mates help you...

Oh wait, are you going to play just 1 vs. 1?

EnragedCamel
09-18-2009, 01:44 PM
You can own him easily if you're playing an agility carry. You will have low hitpoints, which means his built-in lifesteal will not drain too much life, and you will also have high armor which will mitigate his physical damage. With lifesteal items of your own, and high damage, you can kill him easily.

An example is Swiftblade.

r00kie
09-18-2009, 01:47 PM
You can own him easily if you're playing an agility carry. You will have low hitpoints, which means his built-in lifesteal will not drain too much life, and you will also have high armor which will mitigate his physical damage. With lifesteal items of your own, and high damage, you can kill him easily.

An example is Swiftblade.

Swiftblade ? I would not bank on that ! Any of your abilities will be countered by stone hide, you'll get raped if you try any of those.. I agree with your argument with the low health pool, but IMO predator will stack more life stealing based on damage, the only way you can beat a predator late game is to beat him before the game gets there ;)

PieExplosion
09-18-2009, 01:57 PM
Fights against Predator don't really start until you're at half health. If you happen to have a Nullfire, purge Terror off when he puts it on you. From there, it's a fight on who has more items.

Zim
09-18-2009, 01:57 PM
Swiftblade's skills arent magic, therefore, hide does nothing against SB

BALZDEPE
09-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Swiftblade's skills arent magic, therefore, hide does nothing against SB


please dont post if you know nothing, for one whirl is magic

CassiveMock
09-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Swiftblade's skills arent magic, therefore, hide does nothing against SB
fail

Chamon
09-18-2009, 02:08 PM
I killed one as nymphora lol. Pod Stun Mana Run-In-Circle Repeat.

ElementUser
09-18-2009, 02:16 PM
If it's a 1v1 game just use Arachna <_<

Meowshi
09-18-2009, 02:17 PM
I killed one as nymphora lol. Pod Stun Mana Run-In-Circle Repeat.

If they know what they're doing, that will not work. Using pod = They will leap at you and stone hide. Stun does absolutely nothing. They will kill you by level 6

PsychoClown
09-18-2009, 02:19 PM
Ward trap, ya maaaan.

Glorify1
09-18-2009, 02:19 PM
Maliken.

Predator's damage decreases as your health goes down.
Maliken's damage increases as your health goes down.

BlacRyu
09-18-2009, 02:24 PM
I'd go with Chronos. I'm pretty sure bash goes through magic immunity, and his 25% evasion isn't reversible with true strike.

Andywho
09-18-2009, 02:32 PM
Just use electriciant, purge off his ult with your own, grip him and drain him mana. Also your manashield works wonders vs this guy. I tried to kill an elec with him when he has his manashield up and it took like 25 hits to kill him. This was at level 16.

BR_0verp0wer
09-18-2009, 02:33 PM
^And if it fail, you can run away...

TimeSynq
09-18-2009, 03:09 PM
Pestilence.

Impale > Gore > Gore > Gore > Impale > Gore > Gore > Dead.

Not to mention, the -armor eats away people really nicely. Avoid fighting him face to face untill level 6, or pressure him with your AoE. Works great for me.

EnragedCamel
09-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Swiftblade ? I would not bank on that ! Any of your abilities will be countered by stone hide, you'll get raped if you try any of those.. I agree with your argument with the low health pool, but IMO predator will stack more life stealing based on damage, the only way you can beat a predator late game is to beat him before the game gets there ;)

You cannot counter Swift's ult with stone hide. Sure, it reduces its damage, but then again it lasts only what... 5 seconds?

Keep in mind also that Swift has built-in crit and retaliation, which will rape Predator in a prolonged fight.

docterj208
09-18-2009, 03:20 PM
get frost orb

Volshok
09-18-2009, 04:52 PM
Pub Built Demented.

zp3dd4
09-18-2009, 04:58 PM
stack armor instead of HP

Isin
09-18-2009, 05:03 PM
I did a 1v1 against a Predator (about the same skill level as me), and I picked Madman. At about 30 minutes into the game, he was level 25 and I was level 18. He had Post Haste, Insanitarius, Elder Parasite and Demoic Breastplate. I had Steamboots, Symbol of Rage and a Brutalizer.

Guess who won?

Me, of course. He'd leap at me, I go invis while he wastes his Stone Hide, then I pop my ult and stun him and watch while he is constantly stunned for the next 10 seconds while I eat up his health. I think I might have gotten hit once or twice by him, but I regenerated all of that in 2 hits.

Madman > Predator.

I'd say the reason why I didn't outfarm him was that I got steamboots and he got post haste, allowing him to port all over the map, clear creep waves and kill most of my towers. I only started winning at the end when I got my Brutalizer, took him down to 25% HP, he went to the fountain, I had about 40% HP, he comes back with full and I kill him and take the rax.

Shipooki
09-18-2009, 05:08 PM
i tried picking madman vs pred but it didnt work at all i just failed early game
and everybody knows a farmed madman is kind of unstopable so its not really the best pick vs him in my opinion

arcainic
09-18-2009, 05:12 PM
chronos' reverse is only 20% true dodge at lvl4 no?

elevator13
09-18-2009, 05:52 PM
chronos' reverse is only 20% true dodge at lvl4 no?
25%.

TurpinoS
09-18-2009, 06:23 PM
Dont take any HP items, try to stack some armor instead, and then its not a matter of hero choice anymore.

Voulture
09-19-2009, 06:29 AM
Arachna get a frost wolfs skull and phase boots and kite his ass all over the map.
You really have no idea - leap + iron skin = no kiting and arachna's ass raped. Really quickly. Predator is actually one of arachna best counters.

Jereziah is fine versus predator, same for maliken or even pesti. BUt in 5vs5 you are gong just to gank him as much as possible.

09-19-2009, 07:24 AM
I killed one as nymphora lol. Pod Stun Mana Run-In-Circle Repeat.


It doesn't count if he has a ''disconnected'' icon over his head.

`Milky
09-19-2009, 07:31 AM
You lure him to the fountain.