Things that affect invisible heroes

[Lim_Dul]

So, there you go - I wonder what exactly the items/skills in the game might be that are able to hit/affect an invisible hero - obviously not targeted skills but the whole idea for this question came about when I realized that Mock of Brilliance killed some stupid Scout lurking around (well, aura effect - quite obvious really). I don't really have problems with invisible heroes since I ward the crap out of lanes my team is going to fight in but would be glad if I knew whether I am wasting my mana or not by trying to cast something to kill an escaping invisible hero.

I will edit this post as suggestions roll in OR if nobody has any suggestions I'll just spend the time to fire up Practice mode and find out for myself. ^^

Results of my tests:

yes: this skill affects an invisible hero in AoE range
partial: this skill affects an invisible hero but needs you to choose another target first
* - reveals invisible units

Andromeda
Aurora: yes (doesn't reveal invisible heroes, BTW)

Night Hound
Smoke Bomb: yes

Swiftblade
Blade Frenzy: yes

Magebane
Mana Rift: partial

Scout
Electric Eye*

Valkyrie
Javelin of Light: yes

Blacksmith
Flaming Hammer: partial

Nymphora
Volatile Pod: yes
Nymphora's Zeal: yes

Glacius
Glacial Downpour: yes
Tundra Blast: yes

Thunderbringer
Lightning Rod: yes
Blast of Lightning: partial*
Lightning Storm: yes*

Pollywog Priest
Voodoo Wards: partial

Pyromancer
Phoenix Wave: yes
Dragonfire: yes

Tempest
Meteor: yes
Elemental Void: yes

Zephyr
Cyclones: yes
Leap: yes
Wind Control: yes

Armadon
Spine Burst: yes
Armordillo: yes

Behemoth
Heavyweight: yes
Shockwave: yes
Fissure: yes

Hammerstorm
Hammer Throw: partial
Mighty Swing: partial

Jereziah
Inner Light: yes
Righteous Strike: partial

Legionnaire
Taunt: yes
Whirling Blade: yes

Predator
Terror: yes

Pebbles
Stalagmites: yes
Chuck: partial - very strange behavior - if you target YOURSELF and the invisible hero is in range Pebbles WILL pick him up and throw him down in the same location

Keeper of the Forest
Root: yes

Arachna
Spider Sting: * (prevents enemy from becoming invisible)

Chronos
Time Leap: yes
Chrono Field: yes

Slither
Poison Spray: yes
Poison Burst: yes

Blood Hunter
Blood Sense: * (kind of)

Madman
Stalk: yes
Barrel Roll: yes

Soul Stealer
Demon Hand: yes
Dread: yes
Soul Burst: yes

Dark Lady
Charging Strikes: yes
Darkness: yes

Wretched Hag
Sonar Scream: yes
Bat Blast: yes

Defiler
Wave of Death: yes
Grave Silence: yes

Hellbringer
Life Void: yes
Summon Malphas: yes

Puppet Master
Whiplash: partial

Demented Shaman
Storm Cloud: yes

Voodoo Jester
Cursed Ground: yes

Torturer
Chain Reaction: yes
Impalement: yes
Agonizing Bonds: partial
Torment: yes

Accursed
Fire Shield: yes

Devourer
Guttling Hook: yes (shouldn't be the case?)
Decay: yes

Electrician
Energy Absorption: yes

Kraken
Tsunami Charge: yes
Splash: partial
Whirlpool: yes

Magmus
Lava Surge: yes
Steam Bath: yes
Volcanic Touch: partial
Eruption: yes

Maliken
Sword Throw: yes
Possession: yes/partial (initial effect/splash attacks)

Pharaoh
Hellfire: yes
Tormented Soul: yes
Wrath of the Pharaoh: yes (shouldn't be the case?)

Pestilence
Impale: yes
Swarm: * (afterwards)

Everything confirmed online now.

[dreamex]

All AoE effects hit invisible units unless the effect results in individual targetting.

ie. Slither's Ultimate releases in a radius and will hit everything while Moonqueen and Swiftblade ults randomly target enemies within a certain aoe radius (and thus cannot target invisible units and will not hit them).

Valkyrie's Call used to hit invisibility units but since it's single target aoe ability it really shouldn't so they corrected it.

[Brudish]

Pretty sure that Arachna's Spider Sting also keeps them shown whilst it is attacking edit: sorry just re read and seen that you said non targeting abilities.

[Lim_Dul]

So - one question would be - does Defiler's Wave of Death hit invisible units when it's cast in their general direction?
Are you sure that Swifti's Ulti will hit an invisible unit if it's within the random AoE range? I'll have to test this. :-D

And yeah, Arachna's Spider Sting doesn't count since it needs to be targeted initially.

[phish3r]

So - one question would be - does Defiler's Wave of Death hit invisible units when it's cast in their general direction?
Are you sure that Swifti's Ulti will hit an invisible unit if it's within the random AoE range? I'll have to test this. :-D

And yeah, Arachna's Spider Sting doesn't count since it needs to be targeted initially.

Yes, Defiler's wave of death (and pyro's similar spell) will hit invisible units.
I think he said moonqueen and swiftblades ults do NOT hit invisible units.

[dreamex]

Yes, Defiler's wave of death (and pyro's similar spell) will hit invisible units.
I think he said moonqueen and swiftblades ults do NOT hit invisible units.

Edited my original post to clarify.

I'm pretty sure directional line stuns also hit them like Magmus's Surge and Behemoth's Fissure.

[dreamex]

List of ALL abilities that hit invisible units (if aimed at the right direction or they are within range)

Legion:
Andromeda's Aurora

Behemoth's Fissure/Heavyweight + Enrage/Shockwave

Armadon's Spine Burst

Blacksmith's Flaming Hammer if targetting someone near the invisible unit

Glacius' Tundra Blast/Glacial Downpour

Hammerstorm's Hammer Throw if targetting someone near the invisible unit

Jereziah's Inner Light if targetting someone near the invisible unit

Keeper of the Forest's Root

Legionnaire's Taunt/Whirling Blade

Magebane's Mana Rift if targetting someone near the invisible unit

Nymphora's Volatile Pod/Nymphora's Zeal

Pebbles' Stalagmites/Chuck if target is near the invisible unit for Chuck

Pollywog Priest's Voodoo Wards if they are targetting something next to the invisible unit and within their splash radius

Predator's Terror

Pyromancer's Phoenix Wave/Dragonfire

Swiftblade's Blade Frenzy

Tempest's Meteor/Elemental Void

Thunderbringer's Lightning Storm

Valkyrie's Javelin of Light

Zephyr's Leap/Cyclones

Hellbourne:
Accursed's Fire Shield

Defiler's Wave of Death

Demented Shaman's Healing Wave if targetting someone near the invisible unit

Devourer's Decay/Guttling Hook

Electrician's Energy Absorption

Kraken's Tsunami Charge/Splash/Whirlpool

Hellbringer's Summon Malphas/Life Void

Magmus' Lava Surge/Steambath/Volcanic Touch/Eruption

Maliken's Sword Throw/Possession

Pestilence's Impale

Pharaoh's Hellfire*/Tormented Soul/Wrath of the Pharaoh

Slither's Poison Spray/Poison Burst

Soulstealer's Demon Hand/Soul Burst

The Madman's Barrel Roll/Stalk

The Dark Lady's Charging Strikes

Torturer's Chain Reaction/Impalement*/Agonizing Bonds/Torment

Voodoo Jester's Cursed Ground

Wretched Hag's Sonar Scream/Bat Blast

[tootsie2]

Splash damage (hammerstorm, maliken, runed axe)

[Lim_Dul]

I conducted tests with ALL heroes now and I must say the results are quite shocking, since many things seem to be bugged. I'll post everything soon. E.g. Valkyries Call of the Valkyrie STILL targets invisible units and so do other skills that shouldn't do this (Moon Beam, Swift Slashes etc.).

[ScottP]

Call of the Valkyrie doesn't hit invis, chances are that it's practice mode that's the problem. If the invis unit being hit was your main hero or allied to your side, it doesn't register as invis to any other units you control, allied or not. I just tested it with a non-allied invis and it didn't hit them.

e: actually, you're right, never mind. It doesn't play the animation but the damage still occurs, i didn't even notice it.

[Lim_Dul]

I spawned a non-allied Scout on the Hellbourne side and Call of the Valkyrie hit him. I had no sight of the unit, I just confirmed the hit by picking up a Bound Eye that I had lying next to me all throughout the tests. I wonder if it is indeed practice mode that is to blame because the hero location data is stored locally instead of being filtered through a server.
I'll conduct further tests online.


e: actually, you're right, never mind. It doesn't play the animation but the damage still occurs, i didn't even notice it.
Yeah! Exactly! That's what happens with ALL the skills that aren't supposed to target invisible heroes - the animations glitch out but the damage still occurs! It's even like that for Chain Lightning and Acid Cocktail and so forth...

[KARTlK]

So melee is a direct counter to invisibility? :)

[Lim_Dul]

Nah - I just confirmed that this glitch doesn't occur online. However, Chuck and Guttling Hook are still working as described. I'll check out other controversial skills.

[arcainic]

As for acid cocktail, voodoo targeted one of my heroes with the skill, i ran and used assassin's shroud, it missed.

[Lim_Dul]

Yep, I amended the list already with the findings from online mode.