Tip to counter devourer [Archive] - Heroes of Newerth Forums

Vainamoinen

09-09-2009, 01:29 AM

shizmo

09-09-2009, 01:54 AM

Pro find

Drasha

09-09-2009, 01:54 AM

no whats a better counter? shamans headdress + wards

raced

09-09-2009, 02:00 AM

Best counter is not getting hooked actually.

Mellow

09-09-2009, 02:49 AM

Best counter is not getting hooked actually.
This
Just make sure there's always creep between you and possible devourer spots

_swEEt

09-09-2009, 03:37 AM

nice find man. got anymore pro tips for us?

how about when some1 is chasing you turn around and stun them then keep running so you dont die.

Lolololage

09-09-2009, 04:12 AM

Well despite the usual arse-hat responses thanks for that, i wouldnt have thought of it without someone telling me.

Exalion

09-09-2009, 04:18 AM

That's VERY clever. I will use that and laugh when he kills himself.

Works with any silence I imagine.

JinXi

09-09-2009, 04:26 AM

Thats what people do all the time in Dota. Another silence method is the get Hellflower which silences for 5 sec X100 +(5x100x25%/100) as it implifies damage. meanning a total of 625 dmg.

Also dont get hooked plz, but if u do, stun/disable him if you can, or else run towards the trees and move around them so that the Fog covers you and try to lose the devourer. NEVER RUN IN A STRAIGHT LINE AWAY FROM DEVOURER -.-

Zejety

09-09-2009, 04:26 AM

In DotA, I loved to pick Invoker and max Quas (for Coldsnap) ASAP.
For non-DotA players: Coldsnap damages and mini-stuns the target everytime it is dealt damage :D

JinXi

09-09-2009, 04:32 AM

I prefer maxing Exort and using deafening blast on Pudge then just fight head on with him =D surely wins ^^

Exort increases damage, while deafening blast pushes the enemy away and prevents them from attacking for a period of time.

Glorify1

09-09-2009, 05:31 AM

The best counter to pudge is loling and destroying the team that was stupid enough to pick pudge.

Cyxe

09-09-2009, 06:25 AM

Yesterday played a game with devourer and found accidentally his best counter , I ve named the Blood hunter.

What he just needs is his silence .

When you have turn rot on , He just have to silence you and you cannot turn rot off.
And 30s with rot on if you don t have a behe heart , even if yo have shaman headress will reduce you from 60-70% hp.
Bug or not still he can impeach you getting frags and farming very very easily.

Definitely one of the best counter to devourer

I shall add to your find, Blood Hunter's Ultimate severely nerfs Devourer since he usually uses Decay+CHASING to kill people. That gives BH an edge over most other silencers.

blurryrox

09-09-2009, 02:12 PM

blood hunter is one good way to counter devourer rot, but then again, devourer always roam, so you're not going to fight him everytimes. a good devourer wont let u silence him easily. Get into fogs put on his rot hook then ulti your deadmeat. so a way to counter devourer is actually with ward and not get hooked.

Workdawg

09-09-2009, 02:16 PM

Wow, this is pretty awesome. I'd lol SO hard if I managed to silence Devourer and he Rotted to death.

Drasha

09-09-2009, 02:25 PM

Shamans headdress + behemoths heart + silence = devourer still not taking damage with rot on.

KSteal4Lols

09-09-2009, 02:32 PM

Wow people here are being dicks.

In any event, I believe this works for any toggle skill.

I've never tried but I think it applies on torturer's alt...would be a great way to waste his mana.

Domel

09-09-2009, 03:03 PM

wow what and idea lol - BH virtually can counter any hero with strong casts and so he will be possibly nerfed soon .

to the point BE AWARE OF HIM - unless you see him somewhere on map think like he can be hiding somewhere in for around you at any time - keep moving if you dont need to stand , try to find spots between creeps if you are standing still.

a direct counter to butcher - strong melee or sneak chars can be considered a counter in a way - best of best dont let him farm, gank him before he ganks you , profit

BURNiN8

08-01-2011, 10:29 PM

vindicators aura does essentially the same thing

Smyd

08-02-2011, 12:36 PM

1. Pick :elec:
2. ???
3. PROFIT

superdeluxxe

08-02-2011, 12:53 PM

Put a ward on his cliff,

procced to evade every single hook in that lane

Sucking_Ds

08-02-2011, 12:58 PM

Really u believe this ^? Cos i dont. As Drasha mentioned best counter is wards + shaman or shruken.Furthermore if u dont useany of this just go zig-zag and pray that dev will miss the hook.

PrestonLee

08-02-2011, 02:40 PM

Yesterday played a game with devourer and found accidentally his best counter , I ve named the Blood hunter.

What he just needs is his silence .

When you have turn rot on , He just have to silence you and you cannot turn rot off.
And 30s with rot on if you don t have a behe heart , even if yo have shaman headress will reduce you from 60-70% hp.
Bug or not still he can impeach you getting frags and farming very very easily.

Definitely one of the best counter to devourerTHE BLOOD HUNTER!

:emer: silence, :pupp: anything, :blac: flaming hammer, :engi: turret/keg/ulti, :slit: and 3 slows, :chip: combo + buffer, :pred: stone hide/innate lifesteal, :reve: negative magic armor nuke, :hell: life void. all of these are better hard counters than The Blood Hunter. :p

edit: forgot :ophe: slow and :wild: bear roots :p

Phoeniksi

08-02-2011, 02:55 PM

The best counter to pudge is loling and destroying the team that was stupid enough to pick pudge.
:nymp: ?

rawrencerawr

05-17-2012, 11:20 PM

pick mk. get hooked. kill him. ez. bh isnt that great of a counter

Ackwell1

05-18-2012, 01:14 AM

theres no counter for my devourer, outplaying is only way you win skilled devo :)

E: Only way to learn how to play against devo very well is to play devo it self.

Tommysmamma

05-18-2012, 03:17 AM

Oooh! Epic necro! Must say the best counter for Dev (if facing him mid) is to ward his ramp. If you still get caught by his hooks, it doesn't rly matter what hero you pick since you issues lies with movement and awareness and you may want to go back to practise mode.

Escape mechs, silence, stuns and cc. Devo ain't at all that strong anymore as long as you have some decent awareness and vision

Rkey

05-18-2012, 12:20 PM

In DotA, I loved to pick Invoker and max Quas (for Coldsnap) ASAP.
For non-DotA players: Coldsnap damages and mini-stuns the target everytime it is dealt damage :D
HAHAHA Must have been hilarious XD

Clytemnestra

05-20-2012, 02:53 PM

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Zejety http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=265140#post265140)
In DotA, I loved to pick Invoker and max Quas (for Coldsnap) ASAP.
For non-DotA players: Coldsnap damages and mini-stuns the target everytime it is dealt damage :D

HAHAHA Must have been hilarious XD

so i guess here you can go riftwalker.

ikir

05-20-2012, 06:20 PM

moraxus is great against dev. all 4 of his skills, in fact, counter devourer. stun and arcane shield are perfect when you get hooked. you just jam either one of them when you get hooked and bam you are out of there. ultimate is great too both before you get eaten and after. axes are amazing in stopping dev...just throw 2 of them and you are out of there.

dev is my most played and moraxus is my 2nd. i used to pick moraxus a ton against dev and it works out fine. no way a dev can push around a moraxus. moraxus is a top tier hero now, and you can see why.

arcane shield even blocks devourer's hook. i have waited out in the open so many times in lane/mid just to bait a hook so i can pop my shield, screwing devo's mana over.

Clytemnestra

05-21-2012, 07:17 AM

try magebane.blink and mana burn for no hook/ult.also ws is nice for stun and mana drain.

AaaNormaL

05-21-2012, 07:40 AM

Guys i can own all hero with dev its not about his counter heroes . If you can play devo prolly you can own devo.If devo good , you cant do sh*t :D ( Sorry for my English =/ )

Ackwell1

05-21-2012, 01:04 PM

try magebane.blink and mana burn for no hook/ult.also ws is nice for stun and mana drain.
Magebane is actually one of the easiest heros to face with devo. Just use your mana always before he burns it. He wont dmg devo w/o mana at all and decay doesnt cost mana at all. Theres no situation where mb should beat devo. There wont be many kills w/o ganks, but atleast mb wont farm for a ****.

As someone mentioned moraxus, thats a real counter for devourer. No other hero is harder counter to devourer.

Clytemnestra

05-21-2012, 01:17 PM

Magebane is actually one of the easiest heros to face with devo. Just use your mana always before he burns it. He wont dmg devo w/o mana at all and decay doesnt cost mana at all. Theres no situation where mb should beat devo. There wont be many kills w/o ganks, but atleast mb wont farm for a ****.

As someone mentioned moraxus, thats a real counter for devourer. No other hero is harder counter to devourer.
well depends who is better.if mb is good he will not stay in hook range and can get dev's mana before he can use it.decay also damages dev,mb can just aa him until satisfied and then port away.he can port away if he sees dev's hook animation.i agree a good dev can stop mb's farm,but only if he knows what he is doing.I can kill noob hag's at level 2,3+ but i didn't faced a mb as dev mid.

also the idea is to counter devo,if not to kill him,at least to survive rather then feed him.

zstarkey42

05-21-2012, 01:21 PM

Pharaoh is quite annoying if you have Devourier, his constant ministuns wont let him ulti/stun anyone when he's around.

Ackwell1

05-21-2012, 01:34 PM

well depends who is better.if mb is good he will not stay in hook range and can get dev's mana before he can use it.decay also damages dev,mb can just aa him until satisfied and then port away.he can port away if he sees dev's hook animation.i agree a good dev can stop mb's farm,but only if he knows what he is doing.I can kill noob hag's at level 2,3+ but i didn't faced a mb as dev mid.

also the idea is to counter devo,if not to kill him,at least to survive rather then feed him.

If mb comes to attack you hook him before he attacks you couple of times and leaves you w/o mana and when you see mb is decent have rott activated, fake hook and he will blink then you have easy hook to slowed mb and easy kill. Ive picked mb against devo and stomped them, but I also stomp mbs with devo. Playing devo teaches you how to play against one.

Clytemnestra

05-21-2012, 02:09 PM

yes he can fake hook,so as i was saying it is the difference of skill.I haven't seen a devo fake hooks(not even in joke/spam) since a few months.

Ahimtar

05-21-2012, 02:27 PM

i consider moraxus a counter to devo. provoke him, let yourself be hooked while quickly popping ult, stun him and/or shield his ult, after a while of running around your team is in and your ulti is OP.

Clytemnestra

05-21-2012, 02:53 PM

Ackwell1

05-21-2012, 03:16 PM

agreed with moraxus,but he is better on a sidelane.a little question

what you do if you pick soulstealer,willing to go mid and they pick a devo after that?the only thing i find is make a dual lane with a support or stun.so you can save your teammate or harass devo.but this will lower ss farm.any tips?
Dont get hooked by standing behind creeps. Always harras him instead of try to out dmg devos lasthits/denys. Eventually he will get back and let you cs. Then you will out dmg him easily. If you get xp lead still care, few lvls lower devo still kills you if you get hooked. Its pretty hard but usually I beat devos with ss. Remember to push lanes with hands before runes and try to harras him in the mean while. Your harrash might not seem to be hard, but eventually he will be pushed out of the lane.

E: and buy your own wards, if your team doesnt wanna spend their gold on wards. Its crucial that you see which rune he will get because with invis/haste he will kill you and you will see ganks incoming which most likely will result in your death. Also when you see some squishy support incoming you can go and demolish him with your hand combo in abit higher lvls.

Delerord

05-21-2012, 04:42 PM

:phar:

hekor

05-22-2012, 03:36 AM

Actually, I remember I lost mid with Monkey King against Devo only twice. The rest like 20-30 games I won. I agree, MK is good against Devo, but its all with all - I always buy ward on cliff, try never to get hooked (also bait quite). The times I lost, I assume the Devo was simply a better player... So

Clytemnestra

05-22-2012, 09:00 AM

found another-nomad,valk,tdl,maybe kraken or electrician.

Ackwell1

05-22-2012, 11:48 AM

found another-nomad,valk,tdl,maybe kraken or electrician.
Tbh those arent real counters, nomad isnt just that good and valk has higher cd in her leap than devo has in hes hook. Devo vs kraken/elec is just boring and nothing will happen. Guess you can call them counters, but anyways devo will get lvls easily and be able to gank.

Farosarg

05-22-2012, 01:19 PM

So damn many heroes Devourer loses against in Mid if they know what they are doing so Devo has to get his farm and levels from ganks. Gauntlet who knows his stuff usually stomps Devourers just to name one example.

TattyJangles

05-23-2012, 11:14 AM

MB CAN counter devo, but by no means the best counter. Max flash first. Blink onto him as he used his hook. "OH NO, HIS ROT". "Lol, 15 magic armour, thanks for helping me kill you with your rot, devo. Oh look, you have no mana." *ult* *Fist of Sol* *KNOW YOUR PLACE, PEASANT*

Morax would be a better counter, but not getting hooked, or, if you're tanky, blocking him from hooking a squishy hero by deliberately getting hooked will also work.

Skinsword

05-30-2012, 01:45 AM

Another strong counter to devourer.

1. Pick invis hero
2. Stalk him constantly
3. Stand in front of his hooks while hes trying to hook people (make sure ur invis with decent hp)
4. Rinse and repeat until he rage quits.

KillBei

05-30-2012, 02:12 AM

Wards, are the most common way to counter devo. If you can dodge all hooks there are NO heroes that would not be able to deal with a slow melee hero coming at them to channel his melee range disable. Obviously it's not so cut and dried (devo is not a shite hero by any means) but this is the essential feature of devo. Counter that and you will do very well.

Other than that, heroes which can actually be hooked and turn it around on devo do exist. I'd put MK, Pebbles, Moraxus and possibly Nomad in this list. Be careful with MK/Nomad because if you screw up you're dead (they squishy).

Kitty`````

05-30-2012, 02:45 AM

torturer its so good whit impale and stun

foul_beast

05-30-2012, 03:30 AM

i do find drunken master to be somewhat of a counter to dev as his ult makes his ult and his hook do nothing(like having moraxus shield but it last for a somewhat longer duration and doesnt get nulled the moment he hooks/ults you) also once out of ult that stun of Drunken master's can be quite beneficial to you(and your teams) health

with a lvl 3 shield breaker and a sols watch as dev's health melts

mptrei

05-30-2012, 03:52 AM

Oh Devourer, the ultimate Rookie-unfriendly hero. There are tons of heroes who counter devourer, and tons of ways to counter him
Here are some examples :

1. Map awearness. Know where he is, if he cant take u by surprise he cant kill u.
2. Pretty much every ranged hero in the game . Due to your range u can harass him and pull the creeps right next to your tower rather easily
3. STOP being scared of devo. if he misses 1 hook and then pursues u, he has nothing to do but turn on rot , damage u and damage himself. Unless your hero is as squishy as hell , u have no reason to run away from him. Most people's first instict is "Oh no he is next to me and he has turned on rot, RUN AWAY. Do that and odds are that he will kill you because he can resist his own rot more then u.

You can also kill devourer with any hero with high atk dmg and a nuke , any hero with a disable, any hero who has an escape mechanism

Heroes like Dr repulsor / gauntlet/balphagore/ salforis/panda/rampage/bezerker/Drunken master/monkey king/pharo/dw/tremble/electrician outright dominate and destroy his early game, and kill him way before he reaches lvl 6 .

Pretty much any hero in hon can dominate a devourer assuming u are always aware of devourer's location and constantly position yourself in such a way that there are creeps between u and him.

TattyJangles

05-30-2012, 05:31 AM

Just pick hag mid every time against every hero :3

jevelen

05-31-2012, 05:36 AM

Pick heroes with escape and problem would be solved.

Auboss

05-31-2012, 06:21 AM

The best counter to pudge is to pick Centaur and lol as you tank everything he has then rape him in the face.

Fkn S2 I want my Centaur.

Suicidejuker

06-06-2012, 09:54 PM

Pharaoh or tundra are way better counters to dev.

Ackwell1

06-07-2012, 11:31 AM

^Yes pharao is a good counter and tundra beats anyone 1v1 so nothing special there. :)

RUSkidajm

06-07-2012, 11:43 AM

:vood: ?

Connect

06-07-2012, 03:27 PM

It's worth mentioning Tablet too. It's cheap and will help you away from his rot, and there's often a cliff around.

SilentSong

06-09-2012, 06:09 PM

Guys i can own all hero with dev its not about his counter heroes . If you can play devo prolly you can own devo.If devo good , you cant do sh*t :D ( Sorry for my English =/ )

^ this

ikir

06-09-2012, 06:15 PM

it's pretty true. everything you guys post is speculation. the fact remains that while devo can be countered in many ways, a pro on devo will undoubtedly always have a positive kdr. he is a great hero. just like monkey king.

Myzreal

06-09-2012, 07:03 PM

Devourer's strength lies in him being countered not by items, but by skill.

Nuff said.

SilentSong

06-18-2012, 10:39 AM

actually i think the most annoying and pretty nice counter to devo is when the other team starts to turtle extremely early so there is never any good opportunities to gank, and if you do try and gank someone their entire team ports and kills you. if you cant snowball early w/ devo you're little more than a deadweight meat shield.

PrestonLee

06-18-2012, 04:50 PM