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siknoz
12-22-2010, 10:05 PM
So I pretty much nerded out on NH today and was trying different combinations of items to see how his backstab\pounce dmg changed.

Taking this from this other thread....


NH@Lv25 - Agi steamboots + nullfire since that's pretty much standard
vs
Gauntlet@Lv1 - 6 Behemoth's hearts, has 2.60 armor

Compare the following

Wingbow - 5900g
Auto-attack 231-235
Backstab - 406
Pounce - 528
Armor - 27.50
AS - 1.818/sec

Savage Mace - 5400g
Auto-attack 257-261
Backstab - 403
Pounce - 522
Armor - 23.30
AS - 1.667/sec

Geometer's Bane - 4800g
Auto-attack 195-199
Backstab - 369
Pounce - 489
Armor - 26.94
AS - 1.818/sec


Also, just for kicks and giggles I decided to buy 6 dancing blades, 6 warhammers, and 6 slayers and compare them.

6 wingbows(+25 agi, +25dmg each) Auto attack - 287-291
agi - 263
Backstab - 553
Pounce - 671

6 warhammers(+24dmg each) Auto attack - 281-285
agi - 113
Backstab - 397
Pounce - 517

6 slayers(+46 dmg each) Auto attack - 413-417
agi - 113
Backstab - 527
Pounce - 648

Also, just for a baseline, a lv25 NH naked does 251 on backstab, and 372 on pounce.

So...I don't get why it seems just as good to get +dmg items rather than +agi on NH if the backstab dmg still goes up without getting any agi? I'm really confuzzled, halp!
:3

Edit: To be clear, I'm asking for how the backstab dmg is calculated, not strategy for NH! Is it as simple as auto attack + 100% of NH agility?

Enjaa
12-22-2010, 11:31 PM
You've already answered your question.

Drasha
12-22-2010, 11:47 PM
Is it as simple as auto attack + 100% of NH agility?
yes!

Dehorn
12-23-2010, 11:05 AM
do a test with riftshards

PaolitOxD
12-23-2010, 11:12 AM
I'm not sure if this is a nooby built but what I do most of the time with my nh is to built him with steam boots, sange and yasha, then riftshards. The backstab will be amazing with the critical and the pounce will be more than 1000 dmg if you get the critical.

Yes, I know it takes a lot of time to get all this items, specially the riftshards at lvl 4 but this happens when you have a pretty good farm and stuff.

TheMadman
12-23-2010, 12:03 PM
Savage mace IS NOT almost as good as wingbow. Not only does wingbow give more damage, you attack faster, have higher armor, and have passive evasion.

Also that's geobane's bonuses not counting the illusions... yeah. Also consider the price.

Savage mace is a no no unless the other guy has a wingbow and you need the true strike.

ElementUser
12-23-2010, 12:08 PM
No more strategy please!