[Map] Devourer Wars Alpha v.02

[LonJAXsoN]

Devourer Wars ALPHA


Abilities 1 (hook, upgrade range) and 2 (upgrade speed) work, abilities 3 and 4 don't yet. Three working items: Pebble's Hand (toss enemies), Pharaoh's Grapple (grab onto posts and pull yourself to them), and Unstable Keg (just a mine, not finished yet... you'll be able to use Pebble's Hand to toss the mines when it's done). They have five levels (buy the recipe 5 times).

Try it out! Cooldowns will not be so low in any release versions, they're low for testing purposes. In fact, ALL numbers will be changed at some point. Make sure you host it with normal mode, not casual mode.

Changelog:

ALPHA
v.01: Initial release
v.02: Added new item, Unstable keg (unfinished)


Known issues:

Map needs to be loaded twice for Pharaoh's Grapple to work
Some people experience visual bugs in the map (white water, everything black, etc)
A myriad of hook bugs...


What I'm working on:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2r5gp5c.png

[BaconToast]

Is this going to be similar to pudge wars on wc3? Cause that game was LEGIT, and i want to see it replicated in hon

[LonJAXsoN]

Is this going to be similar to pudge wars on wc3? Cause that game was LEGIT, and i want to see it replicated in hon

Yeah, that's the plan. We'll do our best to replicate it.

[eNTi]

i'm poised at what you can achieve with the map editor... i couldn't figure out much tbh.

[Kurczak]

To spice this thread up I'll post some pics OP has posted in a different thread. (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=194088) (Looks nice so far, keep up the good work!)
http://i56.tinypic.com/294m176.jpg
A bug with the skill
http://i53.tinypic.com/34jah6v.jpg
A max length hookshot

http://i51.tinypic.com/fbvxbb.jpg

[BaconToast]

Oh **** yes i cant wait till these are done

[Lezrach]

And then have epic teamfights in singleplayer mode ... :/

[LonJAXsoN]

And then have epic teamfights in singleplayer mode ... :/

Yeah, pretty much. I wish we could get some information on how multiplayer maps will be played.

[Synchrogazer]

http://i53.tinypic.com/34jah6v.jpg

This needs to be his new Ult.

[ElementUser]

Look great :O

I can't remember if that little "post" blocked Pudge's Hook in WC3 or not though. If it does then you'll need to do something similar to Kraken's projectile stopping mechanic (such that if it hits a tree or a cliff, it'll stop - you can obviously customize this to your needs).

I don't know if there's a trait the posts will have that is unique to them, but you can substitute them with trees if need be.

[Zaraki]

Looks pretty nice.

I can't remember, but did pudge's hook bounce off walls? I feel like it did.

[LonJAXsoN]

Look great :O

I can't remember if that little "post" blocked Pudge's Hook in WC3 or not though. If it does then you'll need to do something similar to Kraken's projectile stopping mechanic (such that if it hits a tree or a cliff, it'll stop - you can obviously customize this to your needs).

I don't know if there's a trait the posts will have that is unique to them, but you can substitute them with trees if need be.

I actually just finished the "grappling hook" item... which allows you to grapple on to the posts and pull yourself to them. It's pretty much just a modified pharaoh ult. I set the targetscheme to "trees", then made their type "prop_trees" or whatever. :)


Looks pretty nice.

I can't remember, but did pudge's hook bounce off walls? I feel like it did.

In pudge wars it did... the code involved with that is ridiculous, though. So i think this is only going to be able to have straight hooks. :( At least for now.

Just to give you an idea. http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92839

[BaconToast]

I actually just finished the "grappling hook" item... which allows you to grapple on to the posts and pull yourself to them. It's pretty much just a modified pharaoh ult.



In pudge wars it did... the code involved with that is ridiculous, though. So i think this is only going to be able to have straight hooks. :( At least for now.

Just to give you an idea. http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92839

This line of code made me chuckle

If Hook.hooker !=u then

[LonJAXsoN]

Just leaving an update before i sleep... new item for dev wars!

http://i55.tinypic.com/2nlahdi.png

I am having so much fun messing around with this ALONE... it'll be great multiplayer.

Here's another: grapple-hook combo

http://i54.tinypic.com/2r5gp5c.png

[BaconToast]

Lookin good! Can't wait till this is completed and we have a way to play it online!

[noVa`]

Looks great. :D

[Amuse]

Looks awesome, for sure. I wanna check out the abilities you've made, they look interesting.

Now S2 just needs to implement a way we can play these online :|

[AngryWeasel]

wauw looks great can't wait to have this map ingame :D

[FuN_GaM3r]

hiho,

when i play this map, its kind of buggy

my water is white^^

http://s13.directupload.net/images/101221/temp/6ob7kdwj.jpg (http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2380/6ob7kdwj_jpg.htm)

with mods on and off

[tukkez]

edit: nvm, looks cool

[Dunderklump1]

Hey LonJaxson, do you know how to change a spells model? because when I try, it becomes invisible.

e.g. I want witchslayers stun to look like andromedas stun.

[Oloko]

Hey LonJaxson, do you know how to change a spells model? because when I try, it becomes invisible.

e.g. I want witchslayers stun to look like andromedas stun.

model="/heroes/andromeda/ability_01/effects/orb/orb.mdf"

Works fine for me.
You can even add:

traileffect="/heroes/andromeda/ability_01/effects/trail.effect"

[LonJAXsoN]

hiho,

when i play this map, its kind of buggy

my water is white^^

http://s13.directupload.net/images/101221/temp/6ob7kdwj.jpg (http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2380/6ob7kdwj_jpg.htm)

with mods on and off

Err... not sure what caused that. Anybody else have this visual bug?

[Amuse]

I havn't had that bug, weird. The well water worked fine for me.

[LonJAXsoN]

I havn't had that bug, weird. The well water worked fine for me.

Did you test the hook and both items by chance?

Did you test the hook and both items by chance?

The Phara's item doesn't work for me.
Dunno why, but I couldn't grapple to anything.:phar:

[LonJAXsoN]

The Phara's item doesn't work for me.
Dunno why, but I couldn't grapple to anything.:phar:

It only grapples to the four posts... did you try those?

[Amuse]

Did you test the hook and both items by chance?

Just tested them out.

The size of the hook from his (3rd?) skill doesnt seem to actually be increasing. I may have just not noticed, but it looks the same size at all levels.

The items are working good, except for his toss ability it creates a teapot under the hero..you're missing a model in that ability.


Looks great, other than that. His hook is ridiculously fast and long range when everythings maxed o.o

It only grapples to the four posts... did you try those?

Yep.
Especially them, and no grapple at all.

[Fire_G_G]

Err... not sure what caused that. Anybody else have this visual bug?

Got both the water bug (it's white) and the grappling hook bug (Can't grapple on posts).

[LonJAXsoN]

Just tested them out.

The size of the hook from his (3rd?) skill doesnt seem to actually be increasing. I may have just not noticed, but it looks the same size at all levels.

The items are working good, except for his toss ability it creates a teapot under the hero..you're missing a model in that ability.


Looks great, other than that. His hook is ridiculously fast and long range when everythings maxed o.o

3rd and 4th skill aren't active yet

I'm aware of the teapot, cba to fix it yet.

Numbers are definitely going to change.

Thank you!



Yep.
Especially them, and no grapple at all.

I don't get it -_- How can i fix a bug when only some people get it?



Got both the water bug (it's white) and the grappling hook bug (Can't grapple on posts).
Same goes for this... ugh.

[Kasumi]

Looks pretty nice.

I can't remember, but did pudge's hook bounce off walls? I feel like it did.
Maybe used the first release gauntlet codes in this time 2 skill use the vector,maybe if some one have this will help in this map.

[LonJAXsoN]

Maybe used the first release gauntlet codes in this time 2 skill use the vector,maybe if some one have this will help in this map.

gauntlet's hook bounced? That skill just made it so you could bend it once...

[NadeD]

when were you intending to release the map to s2 so we can actually play it with other people?

[OMGWTF]

i love you for working on this

now everyone can experience a little deadheadfred magic in a hilarious and chaotic environment

[Dunderklump1]

model="/heroes/andromeda/ability_01/effects/orb/orb.mdf"

Works fine for me.
You can even add:

traileffect="/heroes/andromeda/ability_01/effects/trail.effect"

still doesnt work, spell is invis.

[ElementUser]

S2 will look at the map when they're ready to get some maps on their servers.

:3

[LonJAXsoN]

S2 will look at the map when they're ready to get some maps on their servers.

:3

They will? o.O

[ElementUser]

I mean maps in general, not just this one.

[Shinta]

I mean maps in general, not just this one.

On-Topic: This map has it's priviliges, right?

Off-Topic: Why can you have a gif in your sig and others can't (I never thought of this, even though I've been lurking on the HoN forums for over a year now).

[thecsapprnt]

Just got around to trying this out.

Never played dev wars in the old days, but this has been really fun so far.

Totally buggy ( though I completely understand why and expected it), but the bugs are fun to play with. The zero cooldowns on the toss item are hilarious to watch if you activate it fast enough.

Great work so far and looking forward to future developments.

[Evil_Andrex]

On-Topic: This map has it's priviliges, right?

Off-Topic: Why can you have a gif in your sig and others can't (I never thought of this, even though I've been lurking on the HoN forums for over a year now).

Anti-Mage has been at it for as long as I've ever remembered.

[Shinta]

Anti-Mage has been at it for as long as I've ever remembered.

Yeah, I know. But it still ain't fair ;)

[Whomba]

I got a problem. When I enter the map everything is black except for my skillbar. Even the minimap is completely black except for some markers like my devourer and the shops. The funny thing is that if I tab down to windows and then back up again I can see everything normal for a short moment until it fades to black again :S :zeph:

[Dunderklump1]

I got a problem. When I enter the map everything is black except for my skillbar. Even the minimap is completely black except for some markers like my devourer and the shops. The funny thing is that if I tab down to windows and then back up again I can see everything normal for a short moment until it fades to black again :S :zeph:

Did you chose legion side in the lobby? if not, it wont work. at least not properly.

[WwD]

nice good luck with it

[haschisch]

Look great :O

I can't remember if that little "post" blocked Pudge's Hook in WC3 or not though. If it does then you'll need to do something similar to Kraken's projectile stopping mechanic (such that if it hits a tree or a cliff, it'll stop - you can obviously customize this to your needs).

I don't know if there's a trait the posts will have that is unique to them, but you can substitute them with trees if need be.
wouldn't it be a lot easier to check if there is a gadget at that "post" and if theres no gadget spawn one that is hookable, only suffers from physical damage and has 1 hp?
i never worked myself into the hon scripting language, but my idea would be a single line of code in pretty much every language i know.

[MrCosgrove]

are the headshots in yet, when another hook hits an already hooked target?
if nto pleeease add them with the original sound,
nothing was nicer then the HEADSHOT's :)
also epic where the timeslwoed down HHHHHEEEEEAAAAADDDDSSSSSHHHHHOOOOTTTT's :)

or if you dont get the original sound at least get flint's headshot in there ^^

also if you are able to add in the bounce, you need to turn off the hooking when the hook retreats ;)

[LonJAXsoN]

wouldn't it be a lot easier to check if there is a gadget at that "post" and if theres no gadget spawn one that is hookable, only suffers from physical damage and has 1 hp?
i never worked myself into the hon scripting language, but my idea would be a single line of code in pretty much every language i know.

I set the entity type to "prop_tree" and made the targetscheme only hit trees. Easy enough.



Did you chose legion side in the lobby? if not, it wont work. at least not properly.
It should completely skip the hero pick screen, and I always use the first legion slot. o.O



are the headshots in yet, when another hook hits an already hooked target?
if nto pleeease add them with the original sound,
nothing was nicer then the HEADSHOT's :)
also epic where the timeslwoed down HHHHHEEEEEAAAAADDDDSSSSSHHHHHOOOOTTTT's :)

or if you dont get the original sound at least get flint's headshot in there ^^

also if you are able to add in the bounce, you need to turn off the hooking when the hook retreats ;)
I am not working on this map until I get some information I need. I was already working on the headshot system, though :)

[Oloko]

Doing the headshot thing would be pretty simple, you can only do a:

<condition test="hasstate State_Devourer_Ability1" target="target_entity">
<kill target="target_entity" />
...
</condition>

In the <ontouch> of your projectile. At least, I think it would be that simple.

[LonJAXsoN]

Doing the headshot thing would be pretty simple, you can only do a:

<condition test="hasstate State_Devourer_Ability1" target="target_entity">
<kill target="target_entity" />
...
</condition>

In the <ontouch> of your projectile. At least, I think it would be that simple.

Thank you, i was trying to figure out how to test for a unit being hooked :)

Question: If the second hooker (lol) is an ally, will it deny the hookee?

Oh, one more thing... I'm trying to make it so you can toss mines (kegs), but i can't seem to get it to work. You can hook the mines, but you can't toss them. I messed with the targetschemes, immunities, unittypes... it just won't work. The only thing i can think of is that the proxy doesn't recognize gadgets as a valid thing to toss...

Mine gadget
immunity="GadgetImmunity" ----> <immunitytype name="GadgetImmunity" immune="Push Splash Transfigure Buff DeBuff"/>
unittype="PseudoPet LandMine"

Toss ability
proxyeffecttype="Physical Push"

If i remove push from the immunity, it should work right?

Edit: Lol that worked.. i actually thought of that when i was writing my post. :) I'll let you know if the headshot thing works

Edit2: it works.. and it's hilarious.

Edit3: no it doesn't, it just instakills anything you hook. -_-

I have it like this

<condition test="hasstate State_Devourer_Ability1" target="target_entity">
<kill target="target_entity" />
</condition>

Should the end condition tag be at the end of the entire <ontouch>?

Edit4: works now, just had to add maxtouchespertarget="1"

[DayDreamin]

Dropbox -404

File cannot be found -.-

[LonJAXsoN]

Dropbox -404

File cannot be found -.-

Oh yeah, i forgot to update the link :D thanks

[Noob]

didnt hooks use to curve in pudge wars? u got that?

[LonJAXsoN]

didnt hooks use to curve in pudge wars? u got that?

NO, that involves very complex math that is way over my head.

[ScreenShotx]

Just leaving an update before i sleep... new item for dev wars!

http://i55.tinypic.com/2nlahdi.png



Haha this made my day :D

Edit: Yes it did,because i got a sad life.

[Kluckmuck]

I am not working on this map until I get some information I need. I was already working on the headshot system, though :)

I remember you asking how to make the hook larger somewhere? If thats it I think i know :)

[LonJAXsoN]

I remember you asking how to make the hook larger somewhere? If thats it I think i know :)

Nah, that's not it. It doesn't have to do with the map itself.

[Testingrani]

This looks quite promising.
Pudge Wars was quite fun in Warcraft 3.

[DannYG]

DREAM (http://dream.heroesofnewerth.com/map/) it !!

[AOoToO]

How i can install it to HoN?

[Oloko]

How i can install it to HoN?

Go into your Heroes of Newerth folder, then go into the "game" folder and then the "maps" folder. Put the map in this folder, when you get into the game, you should see the map in the list of maps when you host.

[AOoToO]

i cant, its punch of files not 1 S2z file i put the whole file with things in it but it didnt work

[LonJAXsoN]

i cant, its punch of files not 1 S2z file i put the whole file with things in it but it didnt work

it's one file... or archive. however you want to look at it.

[N8S7iVH]

it's one file... or archive. however you want to look at it.

Someone uploaded a Dev wars map to Dream, thought you should know?

http://dream.heroesofnewerth.com/map/Loki_God/Devourer%20Wars/

Not sure if you knew about it or anything.

[LonJAXsoN]

Looks way better than mine... good luck to him

[Hot_To_Go]

Can't wait for this!!

[Ekamo]

If you aren't planning to finish it, maybe someone else should?

[KoTo]

ok i'm completely lost, where can i DOWNLOAD the map?

edit: the valkyrie wars thread has a plain and simple mediafire link, am i missing this one?

[N8S7iVH]

Looks way better than mine... good luck to him

I don't think it does, why don't you guys collaborate? Help one another?

[LonJAXsoN]

I am still waiting on some information before I continue anyway, when I find that out... i can decide whether or not I want to finish this map. I will definitely finish my HoN ball map, but I've lost my drive due to the fact we have zero support from S2.

I took the download link down until then.

[Kossak]

seems to be super fun, can't wait for it :)

[WoxxeH]

PLEASE get download link back! I wanna play this. Noooooow!!!! :D

[rappertuar5]

Please S2 Please Put this map to Heroes of Newerth! :devo3:

[AkiPro]

Are you still working on this?