Matchmaking Status and Duration

[Idejder]

So as everyone is probably aware Matchmaking is up and running and has been for roughly 2 hours. In that time it has spawned roughly 10,000 matches and served roughly 90,000 players in finding quick matches. The average wait times were below 30 seconds and overall a lot of people had fun.

The downside is there is a significant bug, which is the evil "Waiting for server" bug that puts you in an infinite loop of staring at nothing. We do not yet have the data evaluated to tell how prevalent it is or how easy/hard it will be to fix. To get this data we need to take down Matchmaking and parse the huge amount of log files we have it creating.

That will happen soon.

Between now and 2:30 EST we will be turning off Matchmaking for the day. We will be working on how to fix the main issue that people have been getting and any other smaller issues. We will be looking at the match %, the balance of matches, and how quickly they happen all in favor of speeding up our algorithms.

Overall we are pleased, though. We worked through the night (30 hour workday woo!) and were able to deliver on our promise even if it was late. =/

We hope to bring it back online as soon as possible, but I would not expect it to be before tomorrow (Friday est).

We would like to thank those that queued over and over even though they kept getting the "Waiting for server" bug. You generated a ton of logs and we will use them to try to find and fix the problem. You helped more than you know.

To those who did find a game, we hope you had fun.

Leave all other Matchmaking feedback in this thread once it closes.

EDIT: People in games can finish them. Anyone in queue will be removed from queue when we close it.

[varon]

I'll tell people in the lobby to stop trying then.. I have to say it did seem to work very fluidly but I was one of the "Connecting to server" people.

[BobSaggot]

<3 yayyyyy

[SleepingCow]

i could never join a game :(

[OhmyCow]

first page!

[Baarak]

Kudos s2, while my first MM game was a horrible mess of lag and non english speakers, I'm glad that the system is working and thank you for the 30 hour workday.

[waspeh]

If its any help me and my friends only got the "waiting for server" bug on EU servers (tried about 7 times)...USE worked perfectly fine both times. The 2 that worked were quick and fun though, so yay.

[D4NY]

Games i played were pretty fun except from one were one guy were griefing. I'm from EU and had to choose USA servers btw, but played almost lagg free somehow.

[seoulstice]

FIRST PAGE

Edit:
@S2
Give exactly the same gold for the TEAM that gets Bloodlust.
Give a more even(not necessarily exact) share of gold for the team that gets Immortal.

:thun:

[Lil_Helper]

Took me some tries to get into a game cause of the evil bug, but when I got into it, it was really fast queuing and loading the server, overall awesome experience. Just hoping next time the evil bug ain't there :pest::pest::pest:.

[Kaesetorte]

joined with 3 friends and got a match in 5 seconds after loading.

me rikey

[Fisky]

Connecting to server screwed me over, but oh well. Hope it'll be fixed soon.

Also, first page.

[chapy]

thx for putting in the long hours S2

[chaRx]

2:30 EST? Is that like 20:30 CET?

[MaXi]

MM turned off just when i joined it :( too bad :(

[kslghost]

I think the MM system worked, but it didn't really differ from the old SMM for me personally, though not having to worry about a red circle was nice. People seemed to care more, even though I played in a CM game for kicks.

My biggest issues have to do with the whole coin system, which I'm sure will get tweaked with the feedback its generating.

[Triumph`117]

GG was cool

[Azraelon]

I couldn't even join one game :(

"connecting to server.... "

[ButteredLoaf]

Played two games on USE that worked flawlessly. Everything went better than expected. Good work.

[Jeroz]

It was fun. Thank you S2 for all the hard works. The "I am not going to lose my first mm" mentality from teammates was interesting to see

Btw, the "connecting to game server" wait time should also be looked at

[True`Hero]

Mega ultra super mega monolithic dislike button.

[durr__okay]

The two games I had until now really were great, weirdly the server connect bug only happened to me on caldavar, grims crossing worked perfectly 3 times in a row now.

Eu region btw.

[Deadwood]

nice 2 hours wasted, couldnt join a single mm game.

[Jeroz]

Fingers crossed that the next test session will have a longer duration. :)

[X_Raider]

Idejder please listen to our feedback and increase overall coins bounty for games and less for personal reward (ks'ing)

I myslef didnt got in time to try MM but from feedback it sounds like it actualy works great. GJ.

[Sound_Mirror]

=) U guys worked hard, now just the last steps to the finish and you did it ;) (hopefully :p)

Im very Excited!

[eNTi]

Played 15 waiting for server games on Europe that worked flawlessly. Everything went better than expected. Good work.

[Time2Play]

I got d/c in a middle of MM match and can't reconnect. If that count as leave I hope you guys burn in hell. Really.

[PSRMeansAlot]

Can't even find a game...neither can any of my mate ROFL. "Average wait time below 30 seconds", chat moar sh!t please S2. Average wait time more like 5 minutes and that's pretty much what EVERYONE said.

[vexicat]

It was fun :P

Even though I only got 2 coins :/...

Thanks for working so hard. Keep it up.

[Miveal]

2 hour:
- 1 game (about 30min)
- 1h30min of waiting for nothing for hope to join game

What a fckin waste of time. Thanks S2

[Napathan]

I'm not getting any credit for consecutive games won in MM.

[pillbox]

Can't even find a game...neither can any of my mate ROFL. "Average wait time below 30 seconds", chat moar sh!t please S2. Average wait time more like 5 minutes and that's pretty much what EVERYONE said.

Most people who don't have a problem don't have the incentive to post. Not many people goes out of their way and spends a minute saying "great job S2, matchmaking experience was excellent!!!!!!" on the forums.

15 second wait time here :)

[SmashNess]

K are u kidding me?

So the average coin gain is 10 (and im being positive cuz i havent lost, dont know how much u get for losing), so it' like we have to play infinite to put our hands into something nice, and we better win those tons of games or else i'll ever see an alter skin on my account.

Say it's all unlockable by playing and saying we have to become slaves of the game to unlock'em is TOTALLY different.

[Oceanic`815]

Why can't you just leave it on while evaluating your logs while the rest of the people who don't have any server issues can play.


TOO MUCH SENSE

[Lil_Helper]

Can't even find a game...neither can any of my mate ROFL. "Average wait time below 30 seconds", chat moar sh!t please S2. Average wait time more like 5 minutes and that's pretty much what EVERYONE said.

No it isn't. The waiting for server is a bug and it lasted forever not 5 mins. When you didn't get this bug, it queued and loaded in less than a minute, as a solo player at least.

[Baarak]

K are u kidding me?

So the average coin gain is 10 (and im being positive cuz i havent lost, dont know how much u get for losing), so it' like we have to play infinite to put our hands into something nice, and we better win those tons of games or else i'll ever see an alter skin on my account.

Say it's all unlockable by playing and saying we have to become slaves of the game to unlock'em is TOTALLY different.

ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIT OF A GRIND...

Also what did you all expect the first live test of TMM to be? Amazingly perfect? Give them some time to fix it.

[Foul]

So good, load time and queue time were both < 5sec.

I had the infinite loop thing first time as well, restarted the game and it worked fine.

gj, now give it back kthx.

[busterswd]

Worked perfectly for me. 25 second queue.

[Kianda]

"Connecting to game server, please wait..."
:blac::blac::blac::blac:

[_dazE]

Ah, I'm so jealous! I waited the entire night, and an hour before mm went live I had to go to school :( Well, regardless I am happy that mm works, and bugs have been found and are being investigated :) I am eagerly awaiting the next test session! Kudos to you all at S2 who trooped it out the entire night and followed through on your promise! You guys are awesome!

[Mopez]

Pretty pleased with the result. MM ui looks just great and the waiting times were incredibly small ( 10 - 15 seconds )

Only downside is the bug, but you guys will manage do get rid of it and give as a great christmas hon mm coinfarming marathon.


PS: Gimme the jinglebells song !

[twizzR]

No queue at all! FLAWLESS!!!

Only balance sucked, and we met a trilane, so no fun....

[JJJJules]

I literally woke up at 5am EST to play mm. and i thought it would be out because of the midnight opening last night of it. and im at school right now. just to find out that you are shutting it down at 2:30. when i get off school at 2:37. Im so pissed.

[raced]

Both my games were pretty lopsided in my favor (+6/-10) and I didn't have to wait that long to join the games, so I'm sure the balance could have been done a bit better. The amount of coins given per game is fine, just make sure you make everything team oriented.

Overall, it was very enjoyable. Good work S2! Can't wait for moooooore

[Asliv]

Got the bug....
couldnt join any game...
hope my logs will help you to fix the problem fast =)

And now u should get a bit slepp i think ^^

[KillerSOS]

got to play FreshPro and Overpow first game lolololol

I went positive >_>

[SmashNess]

Both my games were pretty lopsided in my favor (+6/-10) and I didn't have to wait that long to join the games, so I'm sure the balance could have been done a bit better. The amount of coins given per game is fine, just make sure you make everything team oriented.

Overall, it was very enjoyable. Good work S2! Can't wait for moooooore

Think the balance will be much more precise after all players can join in without any bugs. The moar players in, more options the bot have.

[joel1031]

Had lots of fun in my MM game, it seemed fairly balanced for the most part.

Only thing that should be looked at aside from the obvious bug is maybe the coin system but meh, whatever.

[hanzlo]

Dont fcking turn it of ..it works fine...

[MikeyGDawg]

had a fun time playing mm, thanks s2

edited : i got to play with dwi tarano and his clanamte in my second game

[I_HateJuice]

just play 3on3 it works fine.. NO PROBLEMS!

[Moisturising]

Woot i was in the test matchmaking ;D stayed up til 6:20am playing Matchmaking from Australia :P

[BrownBanana]

Heard allot of positive feedback aside from the mentioned loop bug, 2 thumbs up and I believe S2 deserves to get an apology from its community, theres more than meets the eye with this taming of the MM.

[Zhumla]

Okey so i searched for a game, had the "please wait, connecting to server" for about 5-10 mins. Cancelled it to look for a new game, same thing applies again. Go into my stats and i see i got 1 disconnect and - MMR. Fking hell

*sadpanda* :(

[GoRaVeNs]

Overall we are pleased, though. We worked through the night (30 hour workday woo!) and were able to deliver on our promise even if it was late. =/

OMG, I stayed up until 6 am last night waiting for match making because I got the message @ 12am that matchmaking would be up, I get no matchmaking. I didnt have anything to do today so I slept in and when I tried to play my first game of matchmaking (we had 9/10 players) you shut it down
RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE lol

[Asrial]

The system was really nice!
The bug kept messing with me all the time for an hour or so, but then i just got tired of it, and tried 3v3...

WARPSPEED QUEUE TIMES OMFG

[Puff]

I'm located in Sweden. First i only picked (thumbed up) the European region but then I (and my party member) only got the "evil message" (connecting to game server). Then i only picked US east instead. Took a bit longer to find a game, but worked on the first try.

[DoRiAn`]

Ya I had a lot of fun with my game in MM it worked fine for me but It didn't with my brother's account, he got that message "Waiting for server...." every time he tried. Hope you guys could solve this I want to play with him using MM.

[Albain]

The matchmaking was fun, worked flawlessly for me.

I played 2 games first very fun and competitive, 2nd they had a 1900 on the other team and um yeah. But is was a lot of fun.

[asgeirom]

Summary, 2 hours played (on a toon), 4x Grim's Crossing CM/CA games.

3 win and 1 lose, resulted in 32 coins.

Hope this helps in clearing up coin earnings, at least for CA on Grim's.

[Rordarok]

Thanks for putting all this effort in it. I think we all really appreciate this.

[DeathDesign]

I joined in a match under 20 seconds it was really awsome=D, but the second time I got waiting for server, but its ok I know you worked really hard and still working on it, now with feedback. Nice job S2

[PyroArcher]

It was a very fun and smooth experience! I appreciate all the effort that went into having it available to test for us non SBT. Given the lack of 'normal mode' stats I thought the matchups were fairly balanced and even. Great Job!

[PhoenixWing]

Although I think the PSR for the MM is not settled to the true skill rating of the players yet due to MM is only opened for 2 hours, the match went quite well.

Although the waiting time is long because of the problem you stated (Please fix them soon T_T), the game server does not lag at all.

One point though is that I think the extra gold for the team should be shared evenly amongst the team, or there people will not play support heroes anymore >.<

Overall : I am very pleased with the results and I hope you guys fix the bug and use the results from this session to perfect the MM soon!

Do not rush tho, we understand it takes time to make the perfect system!!

[Stalkon]

Played 3 matches. I think all of them was unbalanced couse finished after 15-18 min mark. (2-1 in my favor ^^).

FYI I got alot of "W8 server for response..." but newer realy w8. If I got that message I just relog in and mm start working again.

[Dunadan]

Thanks a lot for bringing this new matchmaking S2. It was just as failure as anything you brought for the first time,so much about you pretesting MM. First you told the community that new MM will be in the 2.0 patch packet, now after i waited almost a whole day after you finally promised bringing MM live you closed it. Thanks really, i thought Blizzard is the worst company but my believes are now different.

[Impeached]

Played a 3v3 CM on Grimm's Crossing, it was pretty balanced, though we lost.

Total of ... 2 coins! :p

Good job S2

[Mollse]

Connected to server waiting for response.. tried about 30 mins with relogging.

[ManaCostly]

I havent played NM-MM, only one game of CM-MM (which I won, go me!) but I seem to have 1485 rating for NM-MM.

I did try to join NM-MM queue I couple of times but I got stuck on connecting the server each time.

[Paniikki]

Fingers crossed that the next test session will have a longer duration. :)
This.

[GhostRider]

MM worked so nice! Played 2 5on5 Games, First One lost :(, second one win! I am sad that you had to shut it down, but i am looking forward for the best hon times of my life =) THX for the hard work!

[Valaura]

Got waiting for server a lot but once I got it working it was fun. Played and won 3 matches in total.

[igotPOWA]

I think MM is now really good! I played 2 games (normal mode) on forest and both were wins but for both matches to get 20 coins is little less in my opinion. I think you should make the gain of coins a little bit higher in my opinion.
But really good job S2 <3

[Liohman]

Connecting to server issue here, didn't manage to get in even after around 10 attempts.

[kordall]

good job s2...

I played 2 games, both CM because meh I was tired and just woke up lol

first game was 5v5 and we owned, 2nd game was 3v3 and we lost :( bad team, bad picks... got 10 for winning and 3 for losing, 13 total - seems fair though I was expecting maybe 20ish for a win as opposed to 10.

no errors on my end though, had a great time. keep up the good work!

[Pfeffy]

As frustrating as the wait for TMM has been it seems to me like you guys got a far superior system in place now. Now you follow that up with an actual informative update? Good job, this is the stuff we expect!

[VectorM]

A **** load of "Waiting to connect" or whatever. Almost ruined it. I restarted the client at least 30 times to get it to wrok the second time. Won both games, so at least I am happy ^^

[Tripo]

I'm located in Sweden. First i only picked (thumbed up) the European region but then I (and my party member) only got the "evil message" (connecting to game server). Then i only picked US east instead. Took a bit longer to find a game, but worked on the first try.

Im located in Finland and I found out the same thing. None of the euro region games worked whereas EVERY single US east and US west game worked. Had a lot of fun playing on the US servers, games really took around 30s to find, good job s2!

[nDgro]

Got in 2 games both on the US servers but couldn't connect at all to the EU ones. :(

[Radiohead]

Both my matches went really well. The players' skill levels were quite decent :)

[Gorpik]

well played s2

mm looks very promising i feel like i cba play normal games on pubs now
i really want that mm and gonna grind mah gold

[DarylSC]

Gj s2 loved matchmaking

[McBeer]

Well i did only joined 1 game after 1 hrs waiting time for getting into it. and get passed by the waiting time.. i tryed to join 5v5 like 30 times with out to enter then i joined the 3v3 and its was like 30 sec then i was in a game first try. so did not know. but there was one person afk in like 2 min on the other team. all can ask your self then its about coins why so Rmk... i miss a better system for leavers. its kinda ignoreing leavers just go afk then join now its not just PSR or Stats its your coins 3 things you lose i dont got any idea on how to fix it. but its my feedback from my first TMM Game

[PieRowManSir]

2 hour:
- 1 game (about 30min)
- 1h30min of waiting for nothing for hope to join game

What a fckin waste of time. Thanks S2

It was your choice to participate in the TESTING OF MM. You knew going into this that problems would occur. I had some the same issues you did. It's not like they turned off public games and forced you to play MM.

[Cawk]

Seems perfect. The amount of coins could use the -SLIGHTEST- boost, like the assists bloodbath/immortal going up by 1 or 2, but that's it.

Fantastic job, can't WAIT for this to be in full swing!

[Splinter]

Worked absolutely perfectly for me. Had really good even games, despite chu being on the other team for the first one.

The gold gain seem fine to me. If you look at your total # of games played and average 10 coins for each, you could get quite a bit at the shop.

Well done S2!

[kwikster]

Had luck to find 1 game, 5v5. The time it took to find a game was short so thumbs up.

Also like mentioned in a previous post, the coins from certain things should be divided on the team. For ye u will see alot of ppl only wanting to play carries. As a support i would never steal a kill from a carry, so he get the benefit of my work, while i get nothing for his kill ( expect if we win cause of him).

for balance i dont know, as it is purely based on psr, hopefully kd will come into play later on.

[Artic]

Whenever the "waiting to connect" stayed there for more than a minute I just re-queued and I eventually got a game.

[Bully]

Good job S2! The wait was agonizing but the setup worked very well for me.

Two things that need to be fixed, that doesn't involve the method of finding a game.

1: The cursor issue - Whenever you hover your cursor over a hero, ward, tower, shrine it will stay above your cursor the entire game until you hover something different, and then that stays there.

2: Ward rewards - Already seen it be miss used. People will just sell all their stuff and buy tons of wards and place them before they concede to boost their chances of getting coins at the end of the game.

Other than that it worked great for me.

Thanks S2!

[Scope]

Grim's Crossing (3v3) seems to take about half the amount of time that it takes to finish a game on the old map -> Farm coins playing only 3v3 -> ???

[`fAntom]

damn, finished my essay just in time for it to be turned off. GL on the bufixes s2 thank you for putting in those ungodly hours

[Avoide]

Me and 2 friends got in very quickly. Below 9 seconds :P And it worked very well, with only a small interface bug that I did not get in public game. I don't know if it is just because of the update today that did something to my mods, but it was a fun game, and fast! Good working on MM. Compared to the old MM this is
hmmm....
Infinity times better. Since the last MM took a huge amount of time to load.... And no Team Match Making.
GJ!

[Killing]

I clicked on TMM just to see what the fomat was even though I didn't have a team bu the thing was I couldn't exit out of the TMM format and go back to MM. Had to restart game in order to choose MM, maybe add a back or X button?

[Sn0_Man]

Yeah, It was fast, fun and simple for me. I agree more coins would be nice but w/e. I too got the "connecting to server" bug, but found that I could just click on MM while it was going on and rejoin for ez success.

[Tyrael]

I stayed up til 7 am EST and then took a nap. Woke up at 3pm EST, and now it's closed...


...:(

[Xsankor]

Had problems with Caldavar, played 1 game Grims - no prob with joining, then tried caldavar again - worked fine for me and my mates.

[Razer4488]

just played a match right before it went down, we won and i gained roughly 150 coins i was 2/2/4 lol so idk what u guys are saying about the coins it was 5v5 also

[smoo]

2 coins for a loss. WTF.

Cant you just make it something basic like 5 coins for loss and 10 for win.

[Sn0_Man]

just played a match right before it went down, we won and i gained roughly 150 coins i was 2/2/4 lol so idk what u guys are saying about the coins it was 5v5 also

Wtffffffffffffffff!
Jealous. THAT is a bug.

[Quillraven]

couldn't play it due to work :/ but i have a few questions/suggestions:

- did they change the MM vote thing? in the 2.0 patch videos you could downvote 2 regions(?) and 3 gamemodes(?). i read that they changed that because of the communiy feedback. so were u able to only pick one region and one gamemode?
- how was the goldcoin earning mechanism? did the "bloodlust" player got any goldcoins? did these goldcoins get shared with the team?
- do you get the same amount of goldcoins for cm and nm games? imo nm games should give you more coins, because imo nm games take longer. if it is the same amount, so why shouldn't we just play mass cm for random skins/whatever shopitems?
- 10 coins for a victory seems fair imo. so you need 10 wins to buy an accountavatar/flag(?). it shouldn't be to easy to get goldcoins or every player will have every skin in no time and no1 would buy coins from the shop if it is to easy to get them through playing. however i'd appreciate it, if the gametime would be taken into account in some way. that's what i also hate in the psr rating system. you gain +5 psr for both a 15min rape game or a 70min close-till-the-end-game. imo that is not fair and same goes for the coins.



read through all the feedback posts and seems like the MM worked pretty good for the most of the community. again good job s2 :)

[Razer4488]

Wtffffffffffffffff!
Jealous. THAT is a bug.

yea man if i knew how to do the match id thing i would post it up if u could tell me how lol

[Ghostly]

1: The cursor issue - Whenever you hover your cursor over a hero, ward, tower, shrine it will stay above your cursor the entire game until you hover something different, and then that stays there.


Same issue here as well as posted in the bug forums, supposedly it has to do with mods, but I've yet to turn them off and verify. Anyway, no idea why 2.0.3 would have started causing an issue like this considering they didn't fix anything involved with that.


TMM was a success sort of. Personally I think the coin rewards could be QUITE a bit higher. Considering it was stated you would get an item after 50 or so games, thats not the case atm. 50 wins and you could get an item.

[WamZlay]

Can't even find a game...neither can any of my mate ROFL. "Average wait time below 30 seconds", chat moar sh!t please S2. Average wait time more like 5 minutes and that's pretty much what EVERYONE said.

ive been wating like 20 secs each game and i played 4!

[Kusariyaro]

We will bring MM to test it. Test lasts 2 hours. Shut down MM.
*s2trollface*
ALSO REMOVE THAT ANNIOYING GOBLING FROM THE UPPER LEFT CORNER IN MAIN MENU!!!!!!!

[The_Ghost]

I was just happy to play it. However lost 3 straight games, that all felt like pubs. I need my friends dammit.

[Bully]

couldn't play it due to work :/ but i have a few questions/suggestions:

- did they change the MM vote thing? in the 2.0 patch videos you could downvote 2 regions(?) and 3 gamemodes(?). i read that they changed that because of the communiy feedback. so were u able to only pick one region and one gamemode? I didn't test it, but I'm pretty sure you can choose however many you wanted.
- how was the goldcoin earning mechanism? did the "bloodlust" player got any goldcoins? did these goldcoins get shared with the team? Here is a link that shows everything to do with coins

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/7122/mm1k.jpg
- do you get the same amount of goldcoins for cm and nm games? imo nm games should give you more coins, because imo nm games take longer. if it is the same amount, so why shouldn't we just play mass cm for random skins/whatever shopitems? Picture above
- 10 coins for a victory seems fair imo. so you need 10 wins to buy an accountavatar/flag(?). it shouldn't be to easy to get goldcoins or every player will have every skin in no time and no1 would buy coins from the shop if it is to easy to get them through playing. however i'd appreciate it, if the gametime would be taken into account in some way. that's what i also hate in the psr rating system. you gain +5 psr for both a 15min rape game or a 70min close-till-the-end-game. imo that is not fair and same goes for the coins. its not 10 coins for a win, if you completely dominate you can get upwards of 20 coins, but isn't an every game scenario.



read through all the feedback posts and seems like the MM worked pretty good for the most of the community. again good job s2 :)

Read.

[Bully]

Same issue here as well as posted in the bug forums, supposedly it has to do with mods, but I've yet to turn them off and verify. Anyway, no idea why 2.0.3 would have started causing an issue like this considering they didn't fix anything involved with that.


TMM was a success sort of. Personally I think the coin rewards could be QUITE a bit higher. Considering it was stated you would get an item after 50 or so games, thats not the case atm. 50 wins and you could get an item.

I'll test the mod issue next time.

You could get a flag or something like that within 50 games easily aslong as you dont lose 40 of them.

[LemoNToweL]

Filtered for only AP game mode in all regions worked for me 3 times in a row with all 3 games starting in under 30 seconds. Received 10 coins for first win, 8 for second and 9 for third.

Two games seemed pretty even.. one game with us going back and forth not knowing who was going to get the final genocide that would ultimately end the game. The third game ended with me trying to farm my ass off hoping we wouldn't win before I got level 5 codex..

[Ashilana]

To those who did find a game, we hope you had fun.


I whined a little about matchmaking not being up and the store being there all temping-like. Well, I must say, I am impressed by matchmaking so far. I had a great time, worked flawlessly for me. Good job S2.

Might give into temptation this afternoon and get myself the mq skin and my bf the pyro & glac skins.

p.s. one final thought, add more rewards for placing wards... I am going to fly past that 50 wards placed reward next time matchmaking is up.

[Hsssh]

Got connecting to server bug for like 15min, then thumbed down EU servers and it worked like magic, waited like 10sec to get a match. Sadly got only 18 coins :(

[LemoNToweL]

Where do you see these rewards?

Edit: Nevermind, found it thanks to Xsankor in irc.

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/7122/mm1k.jpg

[Amdir]

I really liked matchmaking. But you should make a 4v4 possible in MM too!

[greencheese`]

I couldn't join a single mm game.. -,-"

[StompinDorks]

2:30 EST? Is that like 20:30 CET?

omg your signature!!! i love you:valk:

[Jay`styLezZ]

played with three mates two matchmaking games. could not connect to EU servers, no chance.

use / usw servers were okay but super laggy here in germany.

[LemoNToweL]

I whined a little about matchmaking not being up and the store being there all temping-like. Well, I must say, I am impressed by matchmaking so far. I had a great time, worked flawlessly for me. Good job S2.

Might give into temptation this afternoon and get myself the mq skin and my bf the pyro & glac skins.

p.s. one final thought, add more rewards for placing wards... I am going to fly past that 50 wards placed reward next time matchmaking is up.


I am almost positive it is for every 50 wards you place just as it is every 250 kills and 250 assists.

[Wizzs]

Joined a game, ws disconnected 5 times, elec disconnected 4 times. No remake. Ws reconnected elec left. Game time 00:20 we're 4v5. No remake. Then we got mad and dominated 4v5. 10 coins woot. Overall liked it, opponents raged a lot. Was fun.

[DeathCult]

I was able to join 3 games totally.
First one was a group MM, which was a disaster as the opposing team turned out to be a advanced-intermediate team.
Second game was a solo MM, which ended up with the blue player failing to cooperate at mid-game, which eventually led to our defeat, even though it was a game that was supposed to be easily won early and easily.
Third game was another group MM, this time I was totally outclassed against a tri-lane, which was also a defeat.
So I lost roughly 60 TSR, I'm not sure about its exact name.
The second game was the most disappointing one, as one player completely refused to cooperate and decided that we will loose no matter what. I tried to RAP that player, but it seems RAP has been disabled. Just for reference, I will mention the match ID here:23478872.
I do hope S2 will look into this sort of things and design a system that is weeds out such players.

[ohai]

yea man if i knew how to do the match id thing i would post it up if u could tell me how lol
I'm assuming you bought coins as you have the trollface. You probably did not receive 150 coins that is just the total amount you have after adding the coins you did win. I played one game where I got 10 coins and then got 6 coins from another game. It said I had 16 coins after the second match and I interpreted that to mean I got 16 coins from that game and was like OH DAMN SON I AM TOO PRO. Then went to the shop and saw that my total was 16. *edit* Queued on USE and USW had the bug twice, relogged, then everything was fixed.

[Perfie]

I couldn't join a game at first while I was in solo matchmaking. I also had only EU server and BP and BD thumbed up. Then I thumbed up all types of game + USE server. I still couldn't join.

A friend then messaged me telling I need to be in a team of 5 players and I'd be able to play. I got myself in a team of 5 and the game was found and got started in about 30 seconds.


Regarding the coins now: I believe bloodlust should give 1 gold coins to all the teammates, or at least the players who assisted on the bloodlust. Lets be honest bloodlust is usually never the effort of one single player. Also this would encourage early ganks before the creep spawn, promoting a more agressive game.

[PieRowManSir]

Awesome job S2. Really loved the whole set up and can't wait for MM to be readily available. Thank you as well for working such a ridiculous day/night to bring MM online. I'm honestly impressed and astounded that you guys pulled those kind of hours off.


Secondly, I would like to make a suggestion. Playing longer games is not rewarded at all with a coin or PSR boost. Giving more PSR for longer games makes zero sense, because the point of PSR is to have balanced teams/games and show the accurate skill level of each player. Coins? Coins are there for rewarding players for playing your game. They are for purely cosmetic items, that give people incentive to play HoN. The current coin system gives bonus coins for consecutive games played, which is essentially, time spent playing HoN. As of now, if you play a game that is say 70 minutes, evenly fought without a large streak for either side, the losing team will gain 2 coins. Why then is the rewards based off of games played, instead of in game time playing Hon that is accumulated? Both would achieve the same goal of getting your community playing your game more. Why not change the current model to be based off of minutes in game? This would still reward players for playing consecutive games, only not punish those 60-70 minute marathons that everyone hates to lose.

Just my thoughts.

[stat1ck_]

losing game -> win 2 coins (wtf?only2??)

wining game-> win about 15 coins (wtf? only 15 ?) playing about 50 games to get a stupid skin (good player,wining all games ) and playing about 300 games (bad players , losing all games ) this is ridiculous , even for me and more like 20.000 players , who wants to get coins to get a stupid smackdown that every single player should have it, cuz he purshaced the game, to play about 150/200 games for this ? make it us to win more coins , or just give us a free 1000 coins just cuz its a new game , hon2.0...

[Tom8a]

I managed to play 2 games and they were both terribad just due to the people on my team, felt like the other team always had the competent people. But aside from that I really like the system, took me ~5 seconds for both matches to get started. The only thing is that for some reason I can't hot key courier or my hero sometimes, and along with that I cant click on enemy heroes unless i reconnect.

EDIT: I also think that earning coins should be equalized for all teammates, would prevent people from spamming wards and ksing so they can get the coins. I think it would promote more team play if everyone benifited from all aspects of the game.

[TheRainmaker]

I was pretty disappointed when the 2.0 dropped with no mm. the first few games i got the bug but when i finally got into a game it worked flawlessly with less than 5s queues. i raped the **** out of some pubbers with noob hound 20 coins for me!:nigh: if this works right when its finally put out as working then it was worth the wait.

[sk1e]

s2 care

[Rod_]

I had problems on matchmaking, with teammates.

I played 3 matchs and lost all of them:

1º - dw fails mid, cd starts complaining and then they swap lanes... cd also fail and then he stays at well until the end

2º - I had engineer right clicked, the other guy randomed hammerstorm and the other 3 waited until 5 seconds left to do their picks and... they 3 picked carrier. We got raped and conceded at 15.

3º - flint ( 0.5 kd) asked to solo mid, we didin't let him... ok, in the middle of the match he left it :D (3/10 or something, not sure)

not to mention that in some matchs i was gonna loose 8 psr and win 13... so, how balanced is matchmaking? Also, when matckmaking comes out... will the stats of these matchs ("beta matchmaking") be reseted?

Apart from the balancemet, everything is fine to me... searching for games took like 30 seconds and the coin system is ok.

Sorry for the english, i'm not a native speaker :warb:

[Fuchsii]

i could only join games after we were 5 mates. connected instantly. 1-4 players....nothings happened

[DangerPay]

Nice job S2. I appreciate the hard work you guys have put into matchmaking recently. My matches were great. Though I could only get matchmaking to work for the 3v3 map, otherwise I would get problems connecting to the server (this was only for the 5v5). Also, the last match that I played was a 2v1 VS 2v1 but our teammate dropped and he couldn't get back into the match. Not sure if it was a problem on his end but was still strange. Though I could care less because we still won, but if it was a bug it should be reported.

Looking forward to see it go up again soon. It can only get better from this point. :)

[Pr1esT]

I was able to play 3 matchmaking games. I did run into the bug:pest: but would only wait on that screen for a few minutes and requeue. Overall, when I got in went fast and had fun. Looks great S2 keep up the hardwork.

I also must make a note that gold coins should be tilted a little more team play. In all 3 games I played everyone was just trying to carry and KS for the xtra coins.

Another thing to remind the HoN community; name one game PC or console you can purchase for $30 bucks and get this kind of quality, constant updates, and a staff willing to make the community happy. NONE

[hanzlo]

CMON s2 CMON...LET US PLAY...we just want to play MM if there is a bug we will just relog and start again...first time didnt work for me i tryed second time and boom im in in 2 sec...so it took me 30 sec to get in MM ...JUST LET US PLAY PLZ PLZ....go and fix your loop bug on some test client or whatever, let us play until u find code error ...CMON PLZ! i have w8ed form 2 am to 7 pm i stayed up all night to help u guys...and now even u get it up 10 hours late u shut it up in fcking 2 hours of the test ,...WTF!=?!?!

[Zellgadis]

My experience: in europe it just doesn't work. I couldn't join even a single game.
In USA servers, it worked, but the people in my team were terribad and i had over 1 second delay due to lag.

Veredict: unplayable for europeans. Keep working on it.

[Zennousha]

I found my games very quickly, and for a solo queue I have to say I found better players than I did with the old MM (excluding one, but hey). I now see little reason for me to pub in the next while. Well done S2. Now take a nap, you've earned it.

[`Andrey`]

Played two games. First game went awful, second game went well. I like MM a lot. Want it back, now please.

[nyc]

i think team mm and solo is bugged and plays together =/

[Splinter]

i think team mm and solo is bugged and plays together =/


This is intended.

Example: A team of 4 players is searching for a game. One player will be taken from solo MM to be with them. It will also try to find a match where the other team is 4 together and one random.

[Warzzo]

God. The balance was awful. I got really bad people on my team and it reeelly sucked. So play with clan 247 it is...O well what can ya do. Oh and btw, i accidently played USW and wow, they are BAD!

[pablofsi]

Just as a tip: at the beginning I had down thumbed bd and bp in game modes, and got the waiting to connect to game server window which would stay there infinitely, when I thumbed both up I got games and played from there onwards.

I played 3 games, I won the first 2 and loose the last. I have to say that were nice balance game, no pupstomp or a SUPER MEGA PRO Scout. I'm not a great player but sometimes I have my days. The games were like... In a second we where wining but 3 minutes later we were losing so hard so was intence I enjoy it all.

10 Coins Win
8 Coins Win
2 Coins Lost

This is the only thing that bothers me at least increase the amount like X2 or X3.

[Bra1ns]

I had problems on matchmaking, with teammates.

I played 3 matchs and lost all of them:

1º - dw fails mid, cd starts complaining and then they swap lanes... cd also fail and then he stays at well until the end

2º - I had engineer right clicked, the other guy randomed hammerstorm and the other 3 waited until 5 seconds left to do their picks and... they 3 picked carrier. We got raped and conceded at 15.

3º - flint ( 0.5 kd) asked to solo mid, we didin't let him... ok, in the middle of the match he left it :D (3/10 or something, not sure)That actually proves that there're not less noobs in mm than there're in pubs. But im sure s2 will keep their great promotion of mm. Which is meaningless.

[Ashilana]

God. The balance was awful. I got really bad people on my team and it reeelly sucked. So play with clan 247 it is...O well what can ya do. Oh and btw, i accidently played USW and wow, they are BAD!

Everyone started out with a new rating based on their psr...but that includes people who inflated it with em games, feeder accounts, etc. It will take a while for everyone to go up and down to their appropriate level.

[GoldMath]

Please reset MM stats

[SoulCrusher]

Ran into the bug like 20 times, switched to 3on3 then and I worked instantly. Played 4 games altogether, never had any flame/whine/whatever in my teams.

The Evil Bug appeared like 3 times after the third game, but nothing too major.

This MM system will defiantely be played more than the old one and kill the Public Game list for 5on5 noscrim, GJ S2

Also, games were somewhat balanced, 2 or 3 of the games were over after the picking phase already tho.

[Bra1ns]

Everyone started out with a new rating based on their psr...but that includes people who inflated it with em games, feeder accounts, etc. It will take a while for everyone to go up and down to their appropriate level.Yeah, and then it will be almost the same as in pubs. What's the difference?

[Ashilana]

2: Ward rewards - Already seen it be miss used. People will just sell all their stuff and buy tons of wards and place them before they concede to boost their chances of getting coins at the end of the game.


Report them? Seriously, if someone sells all their gear for wards or to buy the push stick for griefing their team, report them. Doesn't matter if they are on the other team or yours.

[Jarrlen]

http://i.picasion.com/pic34/ebf15520...0b2b40f654.gif (http://i.picasion.com/pic34/ebf155202855426c87bf720b2b40f654.gif)
I think this very accurately depicts my feelings toward the new matchmaking system.

[davestr1zl]

K are u kidding me?

So the average coin gain is 10 (and im being positive cuz i havent lost, dont know how much u get for losing), so it' like we have to play infinite to put our hands into something nice, and we better win those tons of games or else i'll ever see an alter skin on my account.

Say it's all unlockable by playing and saying we have to become slaves of the game to unlock'em is TOTALLY different.

So wait the system gives you an incentive to play lots and lots of matchmaking games, while also giving you added incentive to try and win as many games as possible? Wheres the problem exactly?

[Warzzo]

Hmm yherr. HoN is sucha awesome game if you play with the right people and sucha fcku when you play with bad players. Thats why im starting to slowly getting tired of this game. I love teamplay but i'm starting to loose my temper way to often. I can ignore if they do wrong but when they start blameing me for failin mid or whatsoever i just won't take crap.

Fun fact is some bad players will forever be bad players. But it takes way to long time for good players to get out of their destructive path.

[Ashilana]

Yeah, and then it will be almost the same as in pubs. What's the difference?


>.<

Almost the same, but not quite.

1) No worries about the host rigging the game.

2 ) People can deliberately lower their rating in matchmaking, but can't feed to get it higher.

3) Separate stats for casual and normal.

4) No leavers. Already had 1 game where they tried the "if 3 of us leave it voids the game" lie. Nice to know that I got coins and they got leaves. ^_^

5) You get more coins for winning, I think this will encourage teamwork...at least sometimes.


It won't be perfect, someone could always let their 5 year old little brother use their account, but there is no way to stop that. Someone could deliberately lose on an account to help set up easy games for their friends...but it would take a lot of thrown games for that to work (and hopefully they'd get banned for that).

:keep:

[Cradoc]

Got a game in just before you guys shut the server off. Overall, the game was good, no one team dominated, in the end our picks were better as a team against them so we end up winning. I downvoted EU, got USW (90ms ping for me :3), and I downvoted SD and the bottom one (don't remember if it was ar or rd), Got BD. Wait time was less than 30 seconds. Was satisfied, would use again with my friends. GJ S2
Though the server I got was 90ms, I still got laggy dc symbol, 3s response time. Though I did turn off a few things and it fixed itself (after a pause).

[KaNeaS]

Thanks i enjoyed a lot but... want better ping!!! i have strong connection and still got like 400 ping :(

Keep working!

[freestyler7]

My first queue as solo i ended with 2 "locks" on my team vs a 3 lock team.
My second queue it was a tmm with the above guys and it paired us vs 2 "locks".

The skill levels were all over the place ofc since everyone starts with the default rating, but overall it was a very nice experience that worked as intended. (less than a min queues also)

[Kurce]

Overall, looks like it went very well except for that bug where you get stuck on the "connecting to server" screen. Too bad I didn't get to play it. Thanks S2 for pulling an all-nighter to get things rolling. Next time, open it up when I am not at work. :P

[Bongo_Ulembe]

Even after 20 retrys i couldnt join a 5v5 game casue of this server bug, when i switched to 3v3 it instant found a game, for my second one i had to retry one more time and then it worked perfectly again.
The balance was awful, both times i played against really bad players, got 2 fast wins and 22 coins (no big streaks or annahilation)
The balance will come up with time i guess after everyone got the MMR that really fits.

The coins... well, yeah giving 3x the coins to the guy who actually got the streak/BL/annahilation/we is a really bad idea imo. S2 told us the point was to reward teamplay and where will be the teamplay if everyone goes for a carry just to get more coins?
tbh all rewards should be the same amount for the whole team.
Also at the moment it seems to me that there could be more coins given for all tasks but maybe it will balance out with the bonus coins for wards placed/kills overall/wins overall so lets wait and see.
the rest was pretty much perfect (if we dont count in the server bug)

[JoSemental]

3 games all under 30 sec waiting , europe servers, only last game our m8 got disc on picks, and he tried to rejoin like 30 times but couldnt, also he got "disconected" after 14 minutes in the game , he had loading status at 0% all the time

[beetfarmer]

I love it so far. A couple of my thoughts so far.

-3v3 worked out very nicely for both games I played, less than 2 minutes of wait time. The first time was with one friend, and the second was with a whole team.
-Balance was pretty good (I might be a bit Biased cause I won twice) The first game was a pretty strong victory and the second game was an almost certain loss, but then we came back (thats why you don't concede early!) and won. I love close games like this, a lot more intense and fun than landslide wins.
-Everything about setting up the game was spot on. No complaints at all there. The only thing i could suggest is being able to use Voip in the parties before you join a game.
-As far as coins go, Yes I believe it will take a while to be able to buy stuff, but that's the point. I do think there could be a few changes though.
-Bloodlust coins should give 1 to everyone involved or 2 if it was a solo kill. (both games we played the entire the team helped in the bloodlust but i ended up with both last hits and got all the coins, not really fair. And it encourages ksing.
-Maybe give an extra coin or 2 for best stats such as: most kills, least deaths, most assists, most denies, most creep kills, etc.
-I would reduce the number of coins CM gets by a little too, since in theory they are faster games.
-Coins are gained faster on Grimm's Crossing dues to shorter games because of the nature of the map. But I wouldn't change anything cause it encourages people to try out the new map. Such a good map too.
Overall these would increase coin gain, but not by much and I think it would help appease the people without changing to much (making it a joke to get coins)

[Changis]

managed to get a matchmaking game on earlier

it was so smooth when it finally worked!

[Bohun]

<3 matchmaking, took us 10 seconds to find a game with decent oponents. we were 1700+ PSR and they were also. does it take psr into consideration b4 we build up some MSR ?

[spalding]

I'm pretty sure your starting MMR is calculated based on your PSR, much like how PSR values were "reset"

[Serenikill]

Worked well, I like the current coin system

[Celery]

S2 should make a way to reconnect without logging out/in.

[PjeYyY]

Are you planning on resetting the Normal Stats after you've tested matchmaking fully and are ready to release the final version, some of us got into a game after about 100 tries in the Waiting for server bug, but due to connection errors and such, my only mm game i had to play a 4v5 game for a fully 30 min which can be abit rough to your stats, not requesting or demanding anything just asking because stuff happends when everyone is so pumped about trying the new system. Overall it seemed really nice

[DayFly]

Thanks for your hard work and sleep well tonight! :)
Im also a bit pissed off cuz it came that late BUT to all flamers who`ll wait for dota2 and want to knock out some S2 guys.

Simply **** u and try to create ur own game.

Its very good and i totally agree with the fact that mm will be the new ****.
cuz:
1. no more leaving cuz OMFG they have 50 psr more
2. no retarded host anymore
3. fast gamestart

To the coins. GJ S2 and well done.
The amount u get for a game is totally ok. Otherwise we would see every skin in every game after 2 months.

But as written in many other threads the distribution of the coins should be more orientated in the direction => teamplay


so far

[Narrasus]

Hats off to you fine people at S2. You redeemed yourself for the fiasco of the last days, in my eyes at least. Take your time with MM and polish it until YOU think it's perfect and ready for the public.
Have a good day!

[chainest]

Overall we are pleased, though. We worked through the night (30 hour workday woo!) and were able to deliver on our promise even if it was late. =/




go sleep now.

you fought for us mighty warrior!

best wishes

ur angry deutsche man

[Fetyukov]

me and a buddy took about 1 minute from clicking the button to the hero selection. Teams were relatively balanced, bonus gold appropriate. All-and-all a fun and enjoyable experience.

Western Canada, Caldvar.

[Prima]

S2 should make a way to reconnect without logging out/in.
ctrl+f8 reconnect???

[Overlord3k]

Sooo I stay up late night to try to join a MM only to find out it had been delayed. Go to sleep and wake up early in the morning and still no MM. Go to school come back home. Find out MM is over. QQ screw it.

[MasterMenace]

please clear the MM stats when MM is fully functional S2...

[Afasia]

Sooo I stay up late night to try to join a MM only to find out it had been delayed. Go to sleep and wake up early in the morning and still no MM. Go to school come back home. Find out MM is over. QQ screw it.
yo european timezone master-race reporting

I got to play two games of MM. Both fairly even and good.
Looking good really, cant wait till it goes to full fume.

[wD`]

Put it On again it was Terrific !! :D Good job S2Games

[Seerun]

MM is a nice system. Was fun to play games there - But I have 1 question: Will my banlist work on this? Or do I have sometimes people in my team I dont want to play with?

[Jigglyballs]

Aww even though i missed it seems like u guys put in a lot more work :D thx! keep it up!

[Ashur]

MM is a nice system. Was fun to play games there - But I have 1 question: Will my banlist work on this? Or do I have sometimes people in my team I dont want to play with?

No, because simply put, people would ban the best players in TMM thus ensuring they never face a challenge.

[ptr00f]

Never joined a single match, always waiting to connect to a game ...

[Gortex]

I think it will be better idea for the team to get bonus coins instead of the person who got bloodlust or immortal

It would result in less ks's

[seoulstice]

please clear the MM stats when MM is fully functional S2...
nope

[questarey]

i had the chance to do 1 game, wasn't a rly fun one because our mid was lowest lvl of all within 15 minutes and our enemy valk was fed before you know it :p

good luck with the data parsing and sleep well :D

[Seerun]

No, because simply put, people would ban the best players in TMM thus ensuring they never face a challenge.
Agreed. Then I have to face it that I have feeders etc. in my team, from time to time, hm.:(

[seoulstice]

Agreed. Then I have to face it that I have feeders etc. in my team, from time to time, hm.:(
The way I see it, this is as close to 'perfect' as it can get.
Either play with a group of friends or expect some bads.

[RejjeN]

A small suggestion for preventing ward spam. Either make it only count wards of sight, or make a code that detects if more than 4(?) wards (Max amount of sights that can be bought in one instance from the shop) have been placed by the same person in more than 30 seconds time, saving a log of this event so that S2 or a GM/whatever can check the replay and the time it happened to see if it was abuse or not. And if it was give them a warning/whatever.

Just 2 cents from an honest Support guy :)

[Cryptomancer]

Appreciated.

[Market]

BUMP< for eta.

[NickJonas]

I Played 2 MM Games and i Got 13 Coins :D. Hope it turn on fast :)

[Lumarin]

I enjoyed playing MM, I had to attempt several times due to 'connecting to game server', but otherwise, it was fun. I got to get matched up against chu and get ****ing stomped by 7 buybacks in a row late-game when we started to gank him over, and over, and over again. That game was ridiculous, and without him on that team, we would have won.

Would love to see matchmaking get the bugs fixed and go up for real so we stop getting 1600vs2K matchups.

[r1g0]

i hope you read this S2, now banlist is useless,would be nice if you give the final 5,4,3,2,1 to leave if there is someone banlisted in the match

ty
gj with the MM worked fine for me other than that

[TDA101]

I enjoyed playing MM, I had to attempt several times due to 'connecting to game server', but otherwise, it was fun. I got to get matched up against chu and get ****ing stomped by 7 buybacks in a row late-game when we started to gank him over, and over, and over again. That game was ridiculous, and without him on that team, we would have won.

Would love to see matchmaking get the bugs fixed and go up for real so we stop getting 1600vs2K matchups.
Ahaha CHU

[Splinter]

I enjoyed playing MM, I had to attempt several times due to 'connecting to game server', but otherwise, it was fun. I got to get matched up against chu and get ****ing stomped by 7 buybacks in a row late-game when we started to gank him over, and over, and over again. That game was ridiculous, and without him on that team, we would have won.

Would love to see matchmaking get the bugs fixed and go up for real so we stop getting 1600vs2K matchups.

I laned with you that game!

The game was actually pretty decent despite having chu dominate. There's really no way to avoid this for the first few matches anyways... he'll shoot up in rank and players like us probably won't face him.

PS: have you watched the replay of it? His farming was ridiculous... he was sitting on 5k gold most times when we killed him, and he finished with more than 450CK...

[esT_aLKA]

Put Darkwood Vale 4v4 up for TMM too!
And Watchtowers 2v2

[Phlyness]

first page!

Ha you're blue name & shield works now?

On the MM Note, i just missed out playing a game! would like to see what servers aussies are thrown onto mostly.

[Shixax]

Mmmh I missed on playing MM, really want to.

[Credge]

Didn't get to play any MM but some people I know did and they have very positive things to say :).

[Zpredator]

Only downside is the lag. Playing from AU I was forced to play on USW with 250 ping. That's enough for me and others to go back to public.

[Lumarin]

I laned with you that game!

The game was actually pretty decent despite having chu dominate. There's really no way to avoid this for the first few matches anyways... he'll shoot up in rank and players like us probably won't face him.

PS: have you watched the replay of it? His farming was ridiculous... he was sitting on 5k gold most times when we killed him, and he finished with more than 450CK...

D= It was very well played by all of us, but still, he dominated that game SO hard. I haven't watched the replay yet, but I might. I think I'm going to wait a few more days before I play MM again, see if they'll get their ratings up before I play so I don't get completely wrecked again like I did in the 3 games today. I lost every game :( /wrists. Good news is that I had fun, which is all that I care about XD.

Oh, yeah, there happened to be a bit of server lag in one of my games. It was enough that I gave first blood, but other than that, MM worked quite well and had SUPER fast queues.

[MileyCyrus]

so...is this thread implying that MM will be up at 2:30 EST as a worst case scenario? or is it another early estimate that depends on how well they can fix some issues? Idejder's OP seems to indicate it will be up again at 2:30 (by saying they are turning it off until 2:30)

[Blaky039]

As I said several times, after a matchmaking game it didn't recorded my ward stats :P

[LonJAXsoN]

D= It was very well played by all of us, but still, he dominated that game SO hard. I haven't watched the replay yet, but I might. I think I'm going to wait a few more days before I play MM again, see if they'll get their ratings up before I play so I don't get completely wrecked again like I did in the 3 games today. I lost every game :( /wrists. Good news is that I had fun, which is all that I care about XD.

Oh, yeah, there happened to be a bit of server lag in one of my games. It was enough that I gave first blood, but other than that, MM worked quite well and had SUPER fast queues.

was chu playing on a smurf or something?

[PhoenixWing]

so...is this thread implying that MM will be up at 2:30 EST as a worst case scenario? or is it another early estimate that depends on how well they can fix some issues? Idejder's OP seems to indicate it will be up again at 2:30 (by saying they are turning it off until 2:30)

Doesn't he mean it will be off at sometime between the time he post and 2:30 ?

[Splinter]

was chu playing on a smurf or something?


Nope.. he was on his main. Everyone's matchmaking rating was shrunk down towards 1500, and it looks like the max is 1700. So him, and what seems like everyone over 1850 is now 1700 in matchmaking.

Match ID for fun: 23474770

[DirtyShit]

You people and your whining

MM was great TMM is great and cool ,fast ,and smooth

the coin system need to be tweaked and i think even that i had bugs of waiting i got to play 3 games so its not that bad

[Pupp3tMast3r]

LOL chu's gold per minute up to 700 that's ridic ..

[Folly]

I believe it's friday EST now...or is MM not expected to start until normal business hours today?

[tikal]

Only downside is the lag. Playing from AU I was forced to play on USW with 250 ping. That's enough for me and others to go back to public.

this

[KrossFaith]

hmm i think the coin system shud be improved...

[DayFly]

I believe it's friday EST now...or is MM not expected to start until normal business hours today?

Dude they worked 30 hours!
They are humans and not some kind of programming robots.

I want play mm asap, too. But if they say, not before Friday EST, it does not mean it will come in the first minute of Friday.


hmm i think the coin system shud be improved...

S2 will thank you for this detailed tip and your massive description of all things wich should be improved :rolleyes:

[Kartalov]

i liek what i read.

S2, we are all very grateful for the 30 hour workday and all the effort put into this. <3

[matthewL]

played 3 games it was great took me about 25 seconds to connect to a game, won all 3 games. funny part was that when i played my first game i had 2 ppl on my banlist on the other name : D thank you for putting up mm looking forward to it hope to see it running up normal asap thank u S2

[tonning]

Dont give people with immortal blust etc the "coins", because there is supportres aswell

[Fredydahl]

I experiend that if you only downvoted 3 of the total 5 game modes or you only downvoted 1 of the server region, it was more likely to find a game that did nt bug with the "Waiting to connect to server" bug.
- Btw, I love the way that team matchmaking works. I was playing with 3 of my friedns yesterday, and i went very succefully when we did a 3v3, grims crossing. We waited about 30 sec, and then we were against 3 other friends. Great work S2!

[Fredydahl]

I usualy get more coins then the carry with support.

[Blue_Kitten]

When is MM going to be up again? I read until 2:30AM EST friday, i'm waiting for some news :p

[Zm0r]

I tryed playing on EU a few times, and it wouldn't start. So i ticked USE, and it found a game in 5 seconds. Had some minor delay, but was kinda fun :) only one annoying me a little was defiler stealing most of the kills.
If you are gonna praise people more (goblin coins specifically) if they have a better k-d score in the game, i just don't see why people wouldn't steal kills and go carry. There will be a lot ruined games over this.

[MileyCyrus]

kinda thought it would be up now, but OP was kinda vague

[Paranoja]

I think MM is much better now.

[Hito420]

yeah, to balance out supports, is there a decent ammount of coin being given for assists and ward placements? (i know its restricted to ward of sight only, cuz those are the only wards ya cant spam, tho might be interesting to have a stat for "wards destroyed" making ppl want to go that extra mile to counter ward)

[TungaLexikon]

yeah, to balance out supports, is there a decent ammount of coin being given for assists and ward placements? (i know its restricted to ward of sight only, cuz those are the only wards ya cant spam, tho might be interesting to have a stat for "wards destroyed" making ppl want to go that extra mile to counter ward)

Quite good suggestin. But EVEN BETTER would to just award gold coins based on Winning/losing a game!

This is the ONLY method of reward that does not bias players to play in a way that is not optimal for the team.

[Kenpachi1337]

So as everyone is probably aware Matchmaking is up and running and has been for roughly 2 hours. In that time it has spawned roughly 10,000 matches and served roughly 90,000 players in finding quick matches. The average wait times were below 30 seconds and overall a lot of people had fun.

The downside is there is a significant bug, which is the evil "Waiting for server" bug that puts you in an infinite loop of staring at nothing. We do not yet have the data evaluated to tell how prevalent it is or how easy/hard it will be to fix. To get this data we need to take down Matchmaking and parse the huge amount of log files we have it creating.

That will happen soon.

Between now and 2:30 EST we will be turning off Matchmaking for the day. We will be working on how to fix the main issue that people have been getting and any other smaller issues. We will be looking at the match %, the balance of matches, and how quickly they happen all in favor of speeding up our algorithms.

Overall we are pleased, though. We worked through the night (30 hour workday woo!) and were able to deliver on our promise even if it was late. =/

We hope to bring it back online as soon as possible, but I would not expect it to be before tomorrow (Friday est).

We would like to thank those that queued over and over even though they kept getting the "Waiting for server" bug. You generated a ton of logs and we will use them to try to find and fix the problem. You helped more than you know.

To those who did find a game, we hope you had fun.

Leave all other Matchmaking feedback in this thread once it closes.

EDIT: People in games can finish them. Anyone in queue will be removed from queue when we close it.


sorry guys @ S2, but i lolled really hard at this... u server rougly 90.000 players? with only a maximum of about 35.000 players online...? I hope you do your math alot better when it comes to the algorithm for matchmaking.

[Hito420]

Quite good suggestin. But EVEN BETTER would to just award gold coins based on Winning/losing a game!

This is the ONLY method of reward that does not bias players to play in a way that is not optimal for the team.

doesnt it already (as of when it last was up of course) only give 2 coins for losing, and like 6 or 8 for winning?

[SadPanda]

I had connecting to server issue. I had USE / USW turned down. When i trurned them back on, i got a game and connected way quick

[DayFly]

sorry guys @ S2, but i lolled really hard at this... u server rougly 90.000 players? with only a maximum of about 35.000 players online...? I hope you do your math alot better when it comes to the algorithm for matchmaking.


Maybe cuz some player played 2 or 3 matches?
Stop trolling.

[Kenpachi1337]

Maybe cuz some player played 2 or 3 matches?
Stop trolling.

so if i play 3 matches, im suddenly 3 people. i lol @ u too man
oh, and having 3 accounts doenst make me 3 people either fyi

[DayFly]

so if i play 3 matches, im suddenly 3 people. i lol @ u too man
oh, and having 3 accounts doenst make me 3 people either fyi

man ur really a smart ass huh?
Don`t take every ****ing word literally.

Anyway i wont feed the troll anymore.

[Kenpachi1337]

man ur really a smart ass huh?
Don`t take every ****ing word literally.

Anyway i wont feed the troll anymore.

yes im a smartass. im right too...

[Jeroz]

you forgot about the fact that some people drop off mid session and some people might be late to the party.

he didn't say concurrent 900,000 90,000 players

Edit: oops

[Kenpachi1337]

you forgot about the fact that some people drop off mid session and some people might be late to the party.

he didn't say concurrent 900,000 players

900.000 now?
im simply saying that with the first glance i cast @ the 90.000 players figure i knew it could in no way be tr00.

[Dordanov]

MM experience was a pretty good experience for me. I missed the first wave, but got a game in before they turned it off again. Queued as a 5 man team, only selected SD and EU, and had a game in around 30-35 seconds. Pretty neat!

The matchup itself was pretty decent as well, even though the MM rating still needs to get where it needs to be for some players, I'd consider it a pretty good start.

Having served 90.000 players with around 10.000 games I'm pretty sure there is some useful data that can be acquired by parsing, and I hope you guys will manage to track down the bug that some people were experiencing for connecting to the server while you are at it.

[SadPanda]

^ Agree.

[TungaLexikon]

doesnt it already (as of when it last was up of course) only give 2 coins for losing, and like 6 or 8 for winning?

I have no idea how the gold reward system works to be honest. THe above relpies imply that it takes into acount kills and such, which i think is bad.

My post was regarding this, and the suggestion i quoted.

[LeonardLew]

When only selecting the EU Servers it always went into the infinite loop. But once we added USEast as an option we were in a game within 5 seconds, and then actually once got an USServer and once am EUServer.

[Shamur]

when will they open match making? :)

[Sloober]

agree with Shamur, any moderator that can set a possible date/time?

[SmattC]

when will they open match making? :)

After the QQ'ing from when they said midnight it would be open there is no way they will give a start time., they will just open and say guess what its open....

[Quillraven]

i wouldn't expect it before monday tbh. analyzing and reworking on their "algorithms" will take at least one day (imo it will take more time) and since we have friday and weekend is coming, there will be no MM again in this week.

just a suggestion

[Cristiaan]

i wouldn't expect it before monday tbh. analyzing and reworking on their "algorithms" will take at least one day (imo it will take more time) and since we have friday and weekend is coming, there will be no MM again in this week.

just a suggestion

:madm:

[hanzlo]

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[Cristiaan]

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I lold

[BenZZa]

Would appreciate some sort of info regarding the upping of MM! For me, it really did work great and everyone i've heard from thought it worked out great, so please: GOGO!

[JaNaR]

Yea BenZZa you missed about 11 pages of comments and the very first post which obviously stated that the MM is still a bit bugged.

[joel1031]

mod delete pls

[Michellovich]

Tried on EU server several times without any luck, but when we decided to go for a USE server it went smoothly

[BenZZa]

Yea BenZZa you missed about 11 pages of comments and the very first post which obviously stated that the MM is still a bit bugged.

Well, the main point of that comment was to further stress S2 for an answer regarding their plans on upping MM: not upping MM itself. Obviously I understand that there are some problems yet to be fixed: but my wish is to be informed regarding the process of fixing these problems. I wanna see what their doing :WardOfSight:

I might have expressed myself weird; my bad.

[HiYa]

Keep the good job s2!

HiYa

[KoniorDoZ]

do we know wich day will MM open?? ty

[Bambalam92]

do we know wich day will MM open?? ty

it was supposed to be today...
hope it'll be enabled soon :/ really looking forward to

[KoniorDoZ]

it was supposed to be today...
hope it'll be enabled soon :/ really looking forward to


im also exited for this im cheking it evry 1 hour.. :P

[Bully]

it was supposed to be today...
hope it'll be enabled soon :/ really looking forward to

Its not even noon where S2 is located. Theres still a lot of time.

[TommyM]

me and 2 friends played a game.

found a match after 3 min!

GOGO S2 :D

[TommyM]

me and 2 friends played a game.

found a match after 3 min!

GOGO S2 :D

[Bl4ck0ut1]

Hello S2!

I only had the " Connecting to Server Please Wait..." bug on european servers. But when i choose the USE or USW i got into a game directly without any Delay or lag, and Iam Euro.:madm:

[Bully]

me and 2 friends played a came.

found a match after 3 min!

GOGO S2 :D

O.O came?