Map Editor - Known Issues & Bugs

[Cyber_Kun]

Post all map editor bugs here, including crashes.

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Considering I am one of the people who was most excited by the map editor in 2.0, I would love to get a list of bugs and crashes.

Crash.



Attempting to load a recently saved map. This map is quite new, only with the fewest of things. A Legion Well, Well Beam Thing, Shop, and the primary Legion World Tree. Attempting to load a more finished map does not crash. Reasons are still unknown.
Dump
Map (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3376005/River%20Of%20Newerth.s2z)
Updating the minimap gives a chance to crash the editor. Still unknown what triggers it to crash or not crash.

[Proyouknow]

Also crashed when trying to see the minimap for me.

[S3RK]

Yup, can't play a tiny map I just created, I'm very DISAPPOINT S2! WHY?!?!?!?

[Vahn]

The map editor is in beta still, there are going to be alot of bugs with it still.

[Branfour]

I am also having issues regarding the Map Editor. I know it's in BETA but still.. I was equally as excited as OP;
So far from what I've noticed :

- Attempting to Update mini-map crashes to desktop
- Loading any map that was created by the user crashes to desktop ( Loading any of the standard maps that already exist and were made by S2 does not cause this problem ) ***

At this point in time the editor is more or less pointless given that anything we make can't be opened without crashing. I suppose we can use this time to learn and familiarize ourselves with the program though it's pretty intuitive and it didn't take me much time to setup something quick. Quite unfortunate however that I can't load anything that I've created.

*Fingers crossed for rapid updates on the editor*

[S3RK]

Yeah, I kinda am hoping for a quick patch on the map editor.
God, every time I go out for a smoke, all these ideas rush into my head, I just want to start creating DAMMIT!

[Cyber_Kun]

- Attempting to Update mini-map crashes to desktop
- Loading any map that was created by the user crashes to desktop ( Loading any of the standard maps that already exist and were made by S2 does not cause this problem ) ***


The mini-map update only seems to crash randomly.
On the issue of map loading/saving, it seems that some custom maps do not crash for whatever reason.

[Drasha]

I need to know every ones property settings when they crashed and what they were doing at the time. I have been able to replicate the mini map update crash with a map size of 7 but not with a map size of 9.

Please let me know if you crash while using these properties.

Properties
Map Size: 9
Map Scale: 32
Max players: 1-5
Texture Scale: 32

[LonJAXsoN]

I can't load my size 7 map...

Map size: 7
Map Scale: 32
Max players: 5
Texture scale: 16

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15728451/crash_2.0.0.3_0000.dmp

[dandylion]

Only have crash dumps from a size 8 map, but I have crashed upon loading/updating map on size 9 before, just not as consistently.

Crash dumps (http://www.mediafire.com/?v2y7hrejnwppyzw)

Settings:
Map size: 8
Map Scale: 32
Maximum Players: 5
Texture Scale: 16

[Gimatria]

I believe i had this settings:

Map size: 7
Map scale: 32
Max Players: 1
Texture scale: 16

Crashdump:

Crashdump Editor (http://www.mediafire.com/?l0ayiolf7xa8upg)

[dandylion]

A few more crashes with these settings:

Map size: 9
Map Scale: 32
Max Players: 5
Texture Scale: 32

All crashes occured when trying to load the file after having saved it.

Crashdumps here (http://www.mediafire.com/?q388fq9y03xkxyd)

[dandylion]

I recently tried to do a few things to see what kind of variables would cause a map to crash upon trying to load.

All the maps I've previously tried, I went to "New Map..." and filled in all the details from there. Any of those maps, even left completely blank, would not open again when trying to load. The maps were also titled with capital letters (though I don't think that should make any difference).

I then used the default blank map that originally came up, and modified some of the variables on the top right hand side properties. Blank map saved and opened works fine. Map name is also one word and non-capitalized. Map altered with cliffs only opened and works fine. Going to attempt to do a little more tweaking to it and see what happens.

Current map settings:
Map size: 9
Map scale: 32
Max Players: 5
Texture Scale: 32

Edit: So far so good, added a ton of cliffs/ramps/some tiling and so far no crash upon loading the map. The only difference between this and my previous crashes were I started with the map that opens when you open the editor and did not go to "New Map..." to create the map.

Edit: Also, I have updated to 2.0.0.3 from 2.0.0.2. Don't recall any editor bugfixes in the change notes, though I may have missed them.

[ElementUser]

I'll move this to Maps

[LonJAXsoN]

Load my custom map, load a different map, load my map again, +CRASH+

[Amuse]

I haven't had any of the crashing issues with updating the minimap, nor loading any maps. Switching between maps, etc, has no problems for me.

However, I'd like bigger map sizes :X

[FlameStick]

I crashed once when i used variations on my terrain was pretty random and didnt happen again just thought id mention it!

EDIT : happened again!

[krs]

I need to know every ones property settings when they crashed and what they were doing at the time. I have been able to replicate the mini map update crash with a map size of 7 but not with a map size of 9.

Please let me know if you crash while using these properties.

Properties
Map Size: 9
Map Scale: 32
Max players: 1-5
Texture Scale: 32

3 steps! Create new map with default property settings => update minimap => crash!

[dandylion]

This may not be related, but on a map I've been working on, when I try to load it into practice mode, it gets to about 35-40% and then freezes. HoN then does not respond to anything, and pretty much the only way to get out is hard restart on my computer. I have loaded the map previously, but just today I started adding creep spawns and waypoint nodes. I'm not sure if the game is simply finding some infinite loop or discrepancy that would cause it to freeze up. Unfortunately, because the problem does not result in an actual "crash" I have no dumps for it.

As far as the scheme goes, I've been using the caldavar map as a guide. The names I'm using for waypoints and barracks and stuff are different, but as far as the targets go, they're basically pointing to the next waypoint, and the "target" dependencies I've used are all pointing to the same corresponding place in the caldavar map.

Any ideas? (I can post a link to the map file if it's requested)

I have not had any other editor "crashes" in a loooong time.

[Oloko]

This may not be related, but on a map I've been working on, when I try to load it into practice mode, it gets to about 35-40% and then freezes. HoN then does not respond to anything, and pretty much the only way to get out is hard restart on my computer. I have loaded the map previously, but just today I started adding creep spawns and waypoint nodes. I'm not sure if the game is simply finding some infinite loop or discrepancy that would cause it to freeze up. Unfortunately, because the problem does not result in an actual "crash" I have no dumps for it.

As far as the scheme goes, I've been using the caldavar map as a guide. The names I'm using for waypoints and barracks and stuff are different, but as far as the targets go, they're basically pointing to the next waypoint, and the "target" dependencies I've used are all pointing to the same corresponding place in the caldavar map.

Any ideas? (I can post a link to the map file if it's requested)

I have not had any other editor "crashes" in a loooong time.

I can take a look at your map if you want.

[netygraph]

No undo button. :(

[dandylion]

I can take a look at your map if you want.

I removed all the way points and redid them one by one, and everything works fine now.

New Issue: Kongor instantly respawns every time he is killed. As far as I can tell, everything is the same as in the Caldavar map (entities and whatnot) so I'm not sure what is going on there. Have posted the same issue in another thread.

[Amuse]

I removed all the way points and redid them one by one, and everything works fine now.

New Issue: Kongor instantly respawns every time he is killed. As far as I can tell, everything is the same as in the Caldavar map (entities and whatnot) so I'm not sure what is going on there. Have posted the same issue in another thread.

You have to edit the actual Entitylist file. It has elements added to it on the Caldavar map.


<entity angles="0.0000 0.0000 -98.2000" firstlevel="1" firstspawntime="0" icon="/shared/icons/minimap_circle.tga" iconcolor="0.6 0 0" iconsize="0.0500" index="3257" maxlevel="11" model="/tools/m.mdf" name="Kongor_Controller" position="10695.4082 7677.9038 -128.0000" respawninterval="600000" scale="1.0000" seed="0" skin="default" target0="Kongor_Spawner" target1="" target2="" team="0" type="Entity_BossController"></entity>


You need the "respawninterval" and other things from that as well.

[dandylion]

I'd actually already figured that out a while ago and forgotten to update here, but thanks Amuse.

[Amgoz1STGS]

Selecting an entity and the loading another map while still having that entity selected will cause a crash when you try to use the entity tool again.

[Bun`tify]

I can't start any custom maps I download at all, it just stops loading and freezes at 10%. This happens to all maps I have downloaded so far.
Can anyone can help me with this? :<

[Oloko]

I can't start any custom maps I download at all, it just stops loading and freezes at 10%. This happens to all maps I have downloaded so far.
Can anyone can help me with this? :<

If you want, you can try to PM me the 30 last lines of your console.log file. It's located in C:\Users\Oloko\Documents\Heroes of Newerth\game.

[FlameStick]

If you want, you can try to PM me the 30 last lines of your console.log file. It's located in C:\Users\Oloko\Documents\Heroes of Newerth\game.


i dont think it says ''Oloko'' on his comp :P

[Dazius]

Dunno if this happens to anyone but sometimes the editor stops saving the maps :S. When I usually press the save button it takes a little while, like 1 or 2 seconds to save but when this happens I press save button and it feels like it instantly saved. To my surprise when I load my map it's reverted to my last "real" save.

[Oloko]

Dunno if this happens to anyone but sometimes the editor stops saving the maps :S. When I usually press the save button it takes a little while, like 1 or 2 seconds to save but when this happens I press save button and it feels like it instantly saved. To my surprise when I load my map it's reverted to my last "real" save.

When this happen, try to open your console (CTRL+F8) to see if it says "save successful" or if there is an error message. It's strange, but there is no popup when there is an error while saving, you need to notice it yourself.

If you really do get an error message, maybe you can post it here.