HoNCast Poll

[Sedz]

I've decided to create this thread with a poll (sorta doubles as a petition) just asking the general public on their opinion of the new HoNcast.

I used to be on HoNcast every day and even stay up until 5 in the morning to watch casts.

Now? I don't even bother. FilePlay has pretty much ruined my experience of watching any casts what so ever (quality and buffering, it takes me 20 minutes to load up about 5 minutes of footage where as before it took me 10 minutes to load up 60. The HD quality is on par with the old HoNCast quality, it's pretty poor and it lacks the ability to successfully skip to desired parts of a video without wanting to buffer for an hour.) and the Ustream live casts are crappy.

That's just my opinion. There's probably many others that agree/disagree with it.

So if you guys/girls vote in the poll, and because a poll is a limited way to express your opinion, just leave a little message saying what you voted for and why.

Also, I've tried to make the poll as fair as possible.

[chapy]

For the most part, American's are going to be unable to enjoy Fileplay until they set up servers in the states, period.

[Anchovies]

I wonder if ppl understand the reason Honcast has had to shift to Fileplay? It's not because they think Fileplay is a better platform; it is a downgrade because they can no longer financially support the platform they were on. It was great while it lasted but was not financially sustainable, so don't expect the quality to be as great anymore.

[Sedz]

Just a note, most people outside of Europe experience the issues, not just Americans.

Oh, and until we get confirmation from breaky, then I'm going to ignore that speculation anchovies.

[LegoPirate]

from what i hear its been confirmed that honcast was losing monies every month. not the best buisness model.

[Sedz]

from what i hear its been confirmed that honcast was losing monies every month. not the best buisness model.

Wanna link me?

[The_Thrill]

There were a lot of underlying factors as to why our content delivery system was unsustainable short term, which I won't get in to. But I can confirm what Anchovies said. It's not speculation, and we've posted about it many many times on IRC and at other venues. We believe fileplay will be an excellent system to use once everything is said and done, but until that point we just have to deal with things as they currently are.

Like it or not, fileplay is here to stay, and we hope you will continue to support Honcast as we go through these changes.

[michA]

i hate it! only good thing is live breaky cam

[BadaBing]

I believe that they are still in the transition phase? Naturally such a huge shift requires a lot of work from all parties.

With the old host they payed 13k/month. With Fileplay they properly got a good deal and we could see a lot of that money being channeled into the HoN community.

Instead of people crying that the "Honcast monolopy" is bad, they should use this time to set up an alternative. Hit 'em while they are weak; you are properly not gonna get a better chance in a long time.

[Josefin96]

It would be really good if some random kid who has the biggest and the best streaming company in world would come along and help out. He could even host some tournaments later on.

[Sedz]

There were a lot of underlying factors as to why our content delivery system was unsustainable short term, which I won't get in to. But I can confirm what Anchovies said. It's not speculation, and we've posted about it many many times on IRC and at other venues. We believe fileplay will be an excellent system to use once everything is said and done, but until that point we just have to deal with things as they currently are.

Like it or not, fileplay is here to stay, and we hope you will continue to support Honcast as we go through these changes.

Thank you.

[AngryWeasel]

Why dont they update honcast with the newest vods or at least just link to them honcast atm is just useless nothing posted on it and all the traffic goes to fileplay is that really how you intended it?

[Elarrion]

It seems that you're not uploading your most recent casts on fileplay these days... that saddens me. For some reason I'm unable to watch your streams now because of lag or unsync between picture/sound, and it's just really horrible. I decided I'd just watch the VoDs instead, but I really can't seem to find the new ones on fileplay!

[Sen]

Im one of the few people that the new Honcast benefits. Im guessing thats becuase im in the UK. I can even watch from my IPhone with no problems.

[Calcifer]

I can watch honcasts fileplay ones fine. I just dont like ustream cos it lags like crazy and has annoying adverts that block off the items and the hellbourne team hero stats at the bottom every 30 seconds!

[snapdoodle]

the newest ones need to be tagged honcast otherwise the search fails.

[peterparca]

lol @ vote

only one answer for positive feedback, bad empiric method.... honcast needs to get own channel on fileplay, as long the search system is that bad (f.e. 1 video shown for november)

[rightclick]

the only time I use honcast is when they do a live stream which they haven't done in a long time afaik

[Decency]

I'm still missing why YouTube isn't the obvious choice. It is, by far and without exception, the best video player in existence.

It's probably their stupid qualms with people downloading the videos...

[Kynarr]

They may as well use youtube if they are gonna do that. There's 22 pages of videos of honcast on fileplay and they arent in date order. How the **** am I expected to find the latest videos? You can even apply for something on youtube to have your videos last longer than 10mins. Why wouldnt they do that. It's the most accessible streaming website.

[china]

They may as well use youtube if they are gonna do that. There's 22 pages of videos of honcast on fileplay and they arent in date order. How the **** am I expected to find the latest videos? You can even apply for something on youtube to have your videos last longer than 10mins. Why wouldnt they do that. It's the most accessible streaming website.

I think that thing is called Director or something. Where your videos can be extended. The application really is a simple process. Plus the partnerships & ad revenues, and the extended benefit of randoms finding the game.

P.S. Fileplay. Really. lul.

[GrosFif]

I didn'T notice any major change in the quality/lag of the streams. Might not be as great as it was, but it's still good enough.

The big problem is the lack of friendly interface. As another guy suggested, they should use the same old honcast website with links to fileplay or something. Their search engine is just horrid.

[Bloodrush]

I don't have any lag issues with Fileplay.net, and I don't even have spectacular internet in my new townhouse. In fact, I've never even had a video on Fileplay buffer, besides the very beginning.

I haven't really looked around Fileplay.net much, so I don't know if they have a separate HoN or HoNCast section, so I sometime have trouble finding videos. Usually I just go to latest videos and watch whatever interests me.

The old HoNCast was nice because it was all organized together, so if it all gets put together on Fileplay (maybe it already is an I'm just an idiot), I won't have a preference either way.

[Warrioo]

They may as well use youtube if they are gonna do that. There's 22 pages of videos of honcast on fileplay and they arent in date order. How the **** am I expected to find the latest videos? You can even apply for something on youtube to have your videos last longer than 10mins. Why wouldnt they do that. It's the most accessible streaming website.

This. The Fileplay site is utter trash.
Videos are difficult to find, the search system is arcane, the quality is poor and it looks more like a bunch of adds that happen to have some HoN videos near them (even with adblock:madm:).

I fail to see why YouTube is not the far and away best option. There are far larger organisations then Honcast that successfully use YouTube for all of their video hosting.

At the very least you could upload to both Fileplay and YouTube then see where the viewers gravitate to.

[Ernie888]

I think that thing is called Director or something. Where your videos can be extended. The application really is a simple process. Plus the partnerships & ad revenues, and the extended benefit of randoms finding the game.

P.S. Fileplay. Really. lul.


i think the one problem with partnerships and ad revenues is there is no money short term. You have to prove via subscriptions that you can maintain XXX subscribers then you get partnership then ad revenue etc. IF things are that dire at honcast then i guess they had to move fast...

Youtube is best imo but w/e lets see what they can do,

im in the UK with 100mbit fibre (free trial :D) so i cant complain at all but i feel for all the non UK with problems.

[Decency]

i think the one problem with partnerships and ad revenues is there is no money short term. You have to prove via subscriptions that you can maintain XXX subscribers then you get partnership then ad revenue etc. IF things are that dire at honcast then i guess they had to move fast....

You also have no video expenses...

http://www.youtube.com/t/partnerships_faq

[Trv]

iloved watching casts in counterstrike, and **** it was easy to get them, on hon
ive only ever watched 1
cant get any **** to load, upload sites being used are ratshit

[Hippie]

You also have no video expenses...

http://www.youtube.com/t/partnerships_faq

Breaky also has a salary that needs paying iirc :p

[Awesomodude]

I wonder if ppl understand the reason Honcast has had to shift to Fileplay? It's not because they think Fileplay is a better platform; it is a downgrade because they can no longer financially support the platform they were on. It was great while it lasted but was not financially sustainable, so don't expect the quality to be as great anymore.

So, where did u get those informations from? Some links? Statement Breaky?

And even if that what u say is true, there would much better ways to do it.
MegaLoad, Youtube, Dl on Rapidshare, what ever, but hosting on a unreachable and laggy **** hoster is in my opinion the wrong one...

I voted for "i hate it"....

[Decency]

Breaky also has a salary that needs paying iirc :p

The keyword there would be "video."

[carben]

I'm still missing why YouTube isn't the obvious choice. It is, by far and without exception, the best video player in existence.

It's probably their stupid qualms with people downloading the videos...

Welcome to the internets.. enjoy your stay.

might wanna look around abit before you start spammig threads with your semi useless insight.

[Decency]

Been here for 15 years or so, if it's semi-useless that'd also make it semi-useful, and I'm fine with that. Or you could elaborate on your spam about my spam.

Toodledoo.

[Warrioo]

Welcome to the internets.. enjoy your stay.

might wanna look around abit before you start spammig threads with your semi useless insight.
What was wrong with his statement? There was perhaps a little exaggeration but compared to Fileplay his assessment of YouTube is pretty well spot-on.

[Kraphty]

I chose don't watch it anymore. I think I've watched 3 since it's been out, rather than 3 a day...

[Silk]

Bump, but this is big lol, there is NOTHING to watch anymore:( maybe add option in poll?;)

Im going crazy btw, addicted to honcast, who would have thought that.. Ow, btw, happy new year!!

[Lettuceface]

I would have to say that I am new to both HoN and HoNcasts (I started playin maybe 3 months ago, and never played DotA) but I love the HoNcasts on filereplay or whatever the site is. I haven't experienced buffering or quality issues aside from the one's that I have to deal with because of my shitty ISP anyways. But the announcer guy is ****in hilarious and its just cool gettin to see some of the best players play and see what their strats/item and level builds/etc are like. As for the suggestion to move to youtube like some have mentioned, I just hate youtube personally for some reason and I would hate to have it ported there entirely. I feel like having it somewhere else gives it a lil extra flavor lol

[klejf]

new honcast is fine, just the live stream icon is a bit too hidden for my taste

& no casts recently kinda ruin it, not the average servers

MOAR CASTS GOGOGOGOOG

[SNACKDOWN]

I HATE IT!

[`abSTRAkt]

Yeah it sucks, honcast went from 4th most visited to being pushed off the top 10

[Ashur]

I'm still missing why YouTube isn't the obvious choice. It is, by far and without exception, the best video player in existence.

It's probably their stupid qualms with people downloading the videos...

Got no idea, I regularly watch videos in 720+ on youtube without any issue at all and the quality, especially on the 1000 something is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

Also, youtube "community" is by far the biggest in the video world and with that many people you get more interested in to hon by watching casts = more people buy the game = more monies for everyone.

IT IS ALSO FREE, and you get money from it if you're popular enough...I don't really see how can they ignore it.

[Simbamatic]

Youtube you can only upload like, 10 minutes of video at a time, unless I am wrong. That's the way it's been for me in the past.

Unless you need to have a special account. But I still rarely see any videos over 10 minutes anyways. All videos that are a half hour long are cut into parts 1, 2 and 3.

I've never had a problem with fileplay. My buffer/load times are always fast, and can hit play and watch the entire video all the way through without hiccups.

Change usually sucks until you get used to it. I like the new honcast because I like honcast as a whole. Quality programming, human connection and really good personalities.

To them I say keep up the good work, I will never stop watching unless someone steals my computer.

[Blitzl0l]

H to the usky husky wouldnt have this problem.

[Gen_Nakaoka]

Hey guys im from australia and im a member of the australian inhouse league clan, just prior to me posting this message we witnessed one of the best games that has ever taken place in the IhL. We were wondering if you guys could find time to cast this game, maybe as a funcast or something. This game includes some of the best players in australia including jabbawabba, NoshZ, biGSky and some members of clans WASP and RNG. Match id: 27890572. This game is 100% action packed from start to finish and would make a great game to cast.

[theoutsider]

fileplay, justin. tv and the lack of good casts/games makes honcast really bad for me.
how come non profit commentary sites of dota or sc2 do more casts, better casts(are you serious about this 1600 psr trash) and in a more enthusiastic casts (ikzu sounds like a downer, hippie like a whiny trashkid that only states the obvious anyways, as much as phil is a smallbrained retard his and xanderks casting additions to breaky are/were the best)

ps: if it werent for that horrible pseudo rivalry that has been going on with gr (who are under a giant quality loss themselves), things could be really good. they have a great replay system and could hire some volunteer replay posters and reviewers of good games that could be casted by a good casting crew (honcast people+the few of gr that dont suck at cast, mainly smak).
it would also do gr better if they would work in coorp with hct on their replay streams/casts, there would be more available recorders for ventcasts, etc etc.
but hey, a site having "replay" in its name providing good replays for a site with "cast" in its name, which would result in the cast site not casting lowbie trash games anymore and the replay site with community additions would be too easy and obvious

[iNsania]

Just my personal opinion and want no flame on this,

But GR>HoNcast (if not 100% sure before, I am now)

[FreudianTrip]

Just wondering deso, did someone rape you IRL or something? You're so angry these days ((

[theoutsider]

no im just trolling around lately. everybody thats important from gr should know i still dig the site

[The_Thrill]

I think that was kind of a compliment? So thanks I think....

Anyway I don't really cast much anymore because of family/work issues. On top of the fact that breaky casts at probably the most inopportune times for anyone not in Europe, there's just no availability.

I am thinking of doing my own thing though with a friend of mine at night for Honcast After Dark. We'll see what happens.

[Honcast]

Sounds fun phil

[SFCLUB]

I've been reading a few things from the HCT crew and it seems like they're starting up their own tournament soon, which should give them a chance to get back in to action. Lately the GR tourny has been the only big enough event to care about, and it is just that, the GR tourny. so honcast hasn't had much opportunity. Me thinks. Also breaky is busy with WoW. nooba fruta

[Honcast]

You heard right! Enjoy

[moshonkel]

Well, since im watching Honcast from the beginning and still watching it, cause its far more professional than gamereplays, i want to add some feedback aswell.

I prefered the old honcast, because i feel the livestreams were way better sheduled and way less laggy, im not sure if its still possible to shedule Games several days before, so the viewers are able to plan theire sparetime to watch the games. I remember days where like 3 upcoming matches were sheduled a couple days before they happen, i never saw this on fileplay.
Since im only watching competetive matches and no funcasts it feels like the content seems to be less aswell.
The biggest other issues i have with the new site were already mentioned and were regarding the poor interface and searching options.


I am hoping the feedback is going to help to improve the quality.

[BillDjango]

One advantage to the new site. I didn't have to spend hundreds of hours coding it, working on the servers, etc - like I did with the old site. :)