View Full Version : Autodisconnect for being "Idle". What's the point in this?
Kirrund
08-31-2009, 12:33 AM
Not sure what the exact leash radius on this is, but it just cost us a game by disconnecting me as I was defending the base near the tree. We had no towers and no barracks on the bottom side, but the enemy had no barracks on top and mid and no towers so it was just a matter of time before we won by playing more defensively and harassing them. I was on defense and got dc'd for being idle despite moving around and placing wards and all sorts of other stuff. Caused us to lose =/ and before someone says that I wouldn't have been dc'd if I had been defending, realize that our tree was already at half, a farmed out night hound was trying to backdoor it constantly, and the only lane that was actually pushing into our base was being pushed towards theirs by a legionaire. In other words, I went a while without any action in the base, but was there to defend it from the NH. I wasn't just standing there, I was moving around, buying and placing wards, and I went a good ways away from the fountain, but just out of no where got dc'd for being idle. I just think that this whole idle thing is redundant and causes more harm than good, especially if you have someone who's actually just afking in the base, you can just vote kick him off.
Bonburner
08-31-2009, 12:44 AM
It's a useless feature that gets new players kicked all the time. It should be a team vote on kicking AFKs like in DotA.
Hopefully this will be removed soon so we vets can teach new players properly.
ComMcNeil
08-31-2009, 01:52 AM
suggestion: Auto-start a kickvote for being idle like "Vote was initiated against player xxxx for being idle" or something like this
realzoro
08-31-2009, 02:46 AM
thumbs up...
i had near the same problem 1 time...
kick for being idle sucks....
yeah... i've recently tried to test my mod and hell how that idle disconnect feature sucks! i just wanted to test in a private game... alone. i think it's some kind of garbage collector to save some resources server side, but heck this is annoying.
UltimaXtreme
08-31-2009, 03:01 AM
i went afk to take a sh it, came back and was kicked. wow
i went afk to take a sh it, came back and was kicked. wow
Well that's what it was intended for...
If something like in the OP happened to me, I'd be totally pissed, the conditions for being idle should be changed.
Fluffyzerg
08-31-2009, 06:54 AM
I agree as it stands its rather frustrating. Had a group of friends playing and one had to afk for like 5-8 minutes to go take care of his baby who had just woken up, needless to say he never got to come back. None of us were mad at him for having to afk, thats a pretty important reason =p and would have much rather had him back and playing but just down a couple levels, than an empty spot in his place
:(
PeeBeeO
08-31-2009, 07:36 AM
Well that's what it was intended for...
If something like in the OP happened to me, I'd be totally pissed, the conditions for being idle should be changed.
Well, you know, **** happens. haha!
Trysaeder
08-31-2009, 08:13 AM
5 minutes afk: "Player x has been afk for 4 minutes, would you like to kick him Y/N"
10 minutes afk: Autoboot.
Then you can stay if your teammates know you have some **** going on, and it prevents loss of needed players.
Kirrund
08-31-2009, 06:33 PM
It was pretty lame, my brother was in the game still so I got to watch the loss from his screen after my hero was immediately terminated. I got idle dc'd at the worst possible time too, as defiler and NH attacked right as it happened. I could have easily stopped them with one other person porting into base. It was such an amazing game up until that point, like probably the best game I've been in yet because it was so close on both sides; over an hour and a half game, only to have it end like that. Please fix.
Karmashock
08-31-2009, 06:43 PM
The solution to this is to fix vote kicking.
You shouldn't be auto dced for being idle. You should be dced because your team wants you dced. As it stands now the other team has to agree which is stupid. If 4 people on a team want the 5th gone... kick him. End of story.
Atsuko
09-01-2009, 12:39 PM
The solution to this is to fix vote kicking.
You shouldn't be auto dced for being idle. You should be dced because your team wants you dced. As it stands now the other team has to agree which is stupid. If 4 people on a team want the 5th gone... kick him. End of story.
No. Allows friends/clans of 4 players to auto kick the 5th pub on their team at the start of every game.
Should require every player (at the very least, 7 out of 9) to allow a kick.
Gangbangjoe
09-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Going AFK ruins the game for your friends. 5 minutes is 10% of the game AFK assuming it takes 50 minutes on average.
If you go afk for more then 5 minutes, you have done alot of harm to the game and you deserve to get a leaver stat.
Never forget, you ruined a part of the game for your friends.
I believe though, that there should be a option for your TEAMmates only to kick the player after 5 minutes instead of directly kicking him. You might be playing with friends or have another reason to stay.
Bloodaxe
09-01-2009, 01:47 PM
No. Allows friends/clans of 4 players to auto kick the 5th pub on their team at the start of every game.
Should require every player (at the very least, 7 out of 9) to allow a kick.
Make it a Team only vote if the player went AFK.
Flavius1
09-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Going AFK ruins the game for your friends. 5 minutes is 10% of the game AFK assuming it takes 50 minutes on average.
If you go afk for more then 5 minutes, you have done alot of harm to the game and you deserve to get a leaver stat.
Never forget, you ruined a part of the game for your friends.
I believe though, that there should be a option for your TEAMmates only to kick the player after 5 minutes instead of directly kicking him. You might be playing with friends or have another reason to stay.
Who does more harm, The person who goes afk but contributes the other 90%? Or the person who feeds the other team for 50% of the game? Also, if it's your friend that has to afk for whatever RL reason (and stuff does come up, believe it or not) then it should be the team's choice and not the game's. I believe you have taken a game way to seriously.
I'm for removal of auto-disconnect and for 4/5 vote kick.
Karmashock
09-01-2009, 07:22 PM
No. Allows friends/clans of 4 players to auto kick the 5th pub on their team at the start of every game.
Should require every player (at the very least, 7 out of 9) to allow a kick.
I'm not seeing that as a problem. Do that for awhile and the fifth guy just won't join that team and those guys will play 4v5 from the start.
Look, if the rest of your team wants you gone. Then why should the other team have any say in that? It's not rational.
The problem is that if you have someone feeding on your side ON PURPOSE often the other side won't kick him because they like the free food. Your solution does nothing to fix it.
My solution fixes all the problems while making it marginally more likely that clans could kick some people off their own team. A point which doesn't even matter.
Kirrund
09-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Post here if you're in support of removing autodisconnect on idle (or at least making the parameters more forgiving) and give your reasons why.
sSinister
09-02-2009, 05:18 AM
I am in support of removing auto disconnect on Idle (or at least making the parameters more forgiving). Pretty much because of all the reasons given already.
krucifix
09-02-2009, 06:02 AM
suggestion: Auto-start a kickvote for being idle like "Vote was initiated against player xxxx for being idle" or something like this
Exactly, that's the only common sense way to handle it.
Zavior
09-02-2009, 06:06 AM
Make an automated vote about it when someone has been afk for x minutes. If he isnt kicked, wait few minutes and automagically disconnect.
Shalalala
09-02-2009, 07:42 AM
/support
Krockitt
09-02-2009, 02:10 PM
It's a useless feature that gets new players kicked all the time. It should be a team vote on kicking AFKs like in DotA.
Hopefully this will be removed soon so we vets can teach new players properly.
I agree, I was in a game earlier today where a level 25 got frustrated with the rest of us and left. I decided to make use of his character while his reconnection time counted down and planned to pick up an item or two from him when he expired. Lo and behold about 20 seconds before his reconnection time expired, I got auto-kicked for being idle, when I was in fact playing his disconnected character the entire time.:(
BorisBadinov
09-02-2009, 08:12 PM
I wholeheartedly agreed. We were stomping, so I told my friends to be defencive while I took a poopie. It happens. They were fine with it. And I got discoed. AAAAANNNND I couldnt rejoin said disco. That makes no sense. IF my team wanted me gone, thats different.
TL/DR Autoboot sux
Karmashock
09-02-2009, 09:42 PM
This is only a problem because vote kicking is broken. They wanted to have the computer auto kick people that were doing something bad because they knew that the existing voting system was unreliable.
The solution is not to have the computer auto kick people. The solution is to fix the voting system.
Period.
s0urce
10-30-2009, 05:12 PM
support
argondey
10-30-2009, 06:12 PM
more support
EternityDre
10-30-2009, 08:27 PM
Happened to me too, see here http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=32770
I was defending base, moving around, had killed creeps and a hero, and I was disconnected because I hadn't left the base area, and it cost us the game.
My thread received no response and was closed.
It needs to be changed to a team vote system similar to DotA.
PoopyDesires
10-30-2009, 08:42 PM
Well that's what it was intended for...
If something like in the OP happened to me, I'd be totally pissed, the conditions for being idle should be changed.
Its intended to be an anti-shitting system?
Holy crap.
Grimace
10-30-2009, 09:30 PM
Doesn't the idle thing kick you if you haven't gained experience for 5 minutes or something? How did you not get any exp defending the base?
NVM, it's apparently for not leaving the base area for 5 minutes. That's not the best way to do it. I support a change.
Change to disconnect instead of terminate. If they're really afk they won't be coming back.
Idejder
10-31-2009, 10:05 AM
It's going to be a kick type thing someday, we just need to find the time to change it.
ElementUser
10-31-2009, 10:06 AM
Yep, so don't worry!
Closed, but thanks for supporting