Question about PSR

[Rifkin]

Before starting a gain, there is a said gained and losed rating per player. What happens to amount of rating gained/lossed if someone leaves a game? Are the "remaining" points handed out to the rest of the team or what?

[Kaylel]

Irrelevant, since PSR isn't accurate whatsoever and is more or less meaningless. It should have no basis on how you play at all.

[zzSleeper]

There is no adjustment for leavers because it is impossible to accurately measure the effect the leaver had on the game (be it for better or worse) prior to leaving. The leaver gets a loss and loses the appropriate amount of PSR, but adjusting the PSR gain/loss for remaining players would only compromise the statistical integrity of the ratings. It is important to note however that this does create some amount of deflation.

[Rifkin]

So basicly, the rating assumed gained or lost prior to the match will remain even if someone leaves?

[KARTlK]

Yes.

[CptJesus]

So basicly, the rating assumed gained or lost prior to the match will remain even if someone leaves?

Which sadly is pretty bad for people who primarily play pubs such as myself, especially now that people are actually looking at PSR as a measure of how good a player is.

[Grinbomb]

Irrelevant, since PSR isn't accurate whatsoever and is more or less meaningless.

Except for the people who base their whole assumption of your skill as a player on your PSR, which seems to be the majority of the playerbase.

[darkwave]

Except for the people who base their whole assumption of your skill as a player on your PSR, which seems to be the majority of the playerbase.
sadly... that's about right. 0.5:1 kd with 1700 psr and you're seen as good... xP yet a friend with 1300 psr and a 2.2:1 kd gets kicked out of "pros" games...

psr is a joke, wish i had replays of my early games... where it was 91 to 8 (where'd that other 1% go i might add) and the game ends up with those underdogs mopping the floor with the other team...

[Eccentrikit]

sadly... that's about right. 0.5:1 kd with 1700 psr and you're seen as good... xP yet a friend with 1300 psr and a 2.2:1 kd gets kicked out of "pros" games...

psr is a joke, wish i had replays of my early games... where it was 91 to 8 (where'd that other 1% go i might add) and the game ends up with those underdogs mopping the floor with the other team...

IMO K/D doesn't matter much I personally think K/A or D/A matters more xD

[Stergeary]

sadly... that's about right. 0.5:1 kd with 1700 psr and you're seen as good... xP yet a friend with 1300 psr and a 2.2:1 kd gets kicked out of "pros" games...

psr is a joke, wish i had replays of my early games... where it was 91 to 8 (where'd that other 1% go i might add) and the game ends up with those underdogs mopping the floor with the other team...

I would sooner let in the 1700 with a 0.5:1 KD than the 1300 PSR with a 2.2:1 KD. The 1300 player is obviously looking for last hits on heroes. The 1700 player wins games. 'Nuf said.

[Grinbomb]

Stats can mean so much, or so little. A 1300 with a 2:1 KD might like to play carries, and often gets killing blows without meaning to kill steal. It might also mean that the 1300 plays a character like scout and simply hangs out until he can last hit for stats. A 1700 with a 0.5 KD, might play support, or characters with a lesser chance of landing the killing blow. He might also just be a bad player who was carried to a reasonable rating by 4 friends who are quite experienced.

All in all, I look at all stats when considering a player. K/D/A, average creep kills/denies per game, average XP/minute, things like that. When it's all combined you can get a fairly decent view of a player. PSR on it's own is a poor indication of player skill in general.

[Glorify1]

Irrelevant, since PSR isn't accurate whatsoever and is more or less meaningless. It should have no basis on how you play at all.

1900 PSR players will consistantly lose to 1400 PSR players?

[JIDIz]

sure...NOT ! =)

[ZombieFewd]

I would sooner let in the 1700 with a 0.5:1 KD than the 1300 PSR with a 2.2:1 KD. The 1300 player is obviously looking for last hits on heroes. The 1700 player wins games. 'Nuf said.
Or the 1300 is the one who plays extremely well but gets stuck with failure pubs because he has to play with them instead of people at his own level. You don't know the story behind every person with crap for PSR.

[zzSleeper]

Or the 1300 is the one who plays extremely well but gets stuck with failure pubs because he has to play with them instead of people at his own level. You don't know the story behind every person with crap for PSR.
You would have to be the unluckiest person on the planet for this to be possible. If you're 1700 in terms of skill but are stuck in games full of 1300s, you should be going 10+/0 and carrying every game to victory single-handedly. People who are stuck in the 1300 rating range are actually in the 1300 skill range.

[Conscripted]

The idea of having a public rank everyone can see, and therefore be decisive on (think discrimination) is a flawed idea in and of itself

[iOP1]

Psr Is a Quick Indication of ones APPROXIMATE skill. imo. thats why its there.

[Atsuko]

Psr does indeed matter, somewhat. A person with a 2000 psr is likely to play better than a person with 1000 psr, although not always.

A quick look at all the players stats (psr, win %, k:d:a, average creep kills, average denies, average game length) is better than just looking at psr. But typically, the better player is the one with a higher psr. The more of a difference there is, the more likely the high psr'ed player is better.

It's the same as every ranking system in every game.

This is why you see "1800+" games played drastically differently than "< 1500" games, most of the time.

[Arlyanns]

im one off that unluckiest ones.. 1678 to 1367 in 2 days, because in 2/3 of the games one or two members from my team leave in the begining..
Now im playng only 1v1 to build up my psr (actually at 1553 ¬¬)

[Nark0Punk]

http://www.honage.net/sig/Nark0Punk/chronos/1/ ('http://www.honage.net/ladder/#player:Nark0Punk')
I LOST 3 GAMES (LEAVERS) AND I LOST AROUND 120 PSR

[sSinister]

I had a game where it said I would not gain or lose psr how the hell does that work?

[IzzIsHOr]

Ok, look at my stats in my sig...
I think that i'm a mediocre player, not imba but not a complete noob...

I have a PSR of ~1300...
That's because of losers, noobs and leavers...