Negative damage?

[ajz]

how does the game mechanics work in this case?

http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/negative%20damage.jpg

[megacannibal]

Go **** yourself I'm not spending half a hour waiting for your damn pic to load.

[Warchamp7]

Slow loading picture loads sloooow. No really it took at least a minute or two.

As for the negative damage, that's pretty weird. How'd that even happen

[rofflewoffle]

the game explodes as soon as tiny(?) tries to hit something, ofc

[SausageEx]

You used your enfeeble on him? it reduces his WHOLE damage by 120% resulting in a -20% attack.

Its a bug, it should only reduce 120% BASE attack. never giving negative damage.

[ajz]

okay i replaced the picture with a .jpg instead so it should load a bit faster now :P

well i simply used enfeeble (or whatever it's called now) on tiny. since it gives -120% base damage and he doesnt have that many +dmg modifiers im guessing it simply went on negative


You used your enfeeble on him? it reduces his WHOLE damage by 120% resulting in a -20% attack.

Its a bug, it should only reduce 120% BASE attack. never giving negative damage.

i think it IS his base attack. it's just that he has a friggin huge base attack beeing tiny with rank3 ulti

[Murlox]

He would heal his target, obviously

[ajz]

He would heal his target, obviously

haha i never saw him hit a target but i doubt it's possible. or is it? :D

[MuyoMan]

This should be in the mechanics forum, imo

but good find, I lol'd

[Rawful]

You used your enfeeble on him? it reduces his WHOLE damage by 120% resulting in a -20% attack.

Its a bug, it should only reduce 120% BASE attack. never giving negative damage.

Actually, people don't often get dmg items on pebbles. This means that if they don't boost his attack by atleast 20% with items there can be negative dmg from enfeeble. I am not sure how the game handles this though.

[RailStorm]

Nice look, i've never noticed that before.

[SausageEx]

Actually, people don't often get dmg items on pebbles. This means that if they don't boost his attack by atleast 20% with items there can be negative dmg from enfeeble. I am not sure how the game handles this though.

Well... by the time you get it to lvl 4, the dps heroes have their attack items so they end up doing little dmg but never negative.

And if you wanted to rush the enfeeble to lvl 4 early game you will end up with an horrible build. gettin killed very often and doing poorly at team fights.

[Simba]

Negative damage deals 1 damage. Just like in DotA.

And no, Enfeeble does not reduce WHOLE damage, it only reduces base damage, I can confirm that for a fact.

[SausageEx]

Negative damage deals 1 damage. Just like in DotA.

And no, Enfeeble does not reduce WHOLE damage, it only reduces base damage, I can confirm that for a fact.

It reduces whole damage in hon as it seems. "i use enfeeble as i forgot the hon name skill"

[Madlax27]

The reason why it seems like it reduces whole damage is because most characters tend to build up their damage with Stat boosting items (Wingbow, Heart, etc) which increases the BASE damage. Only characters with +damage items will stay positive (Runed Axe, Mock of Brilliance).

Tested this quite thoroughly with an arachna player that swapped out different items. AGI items only she had very low damage but with crit + shieldbreaker etc. she only lost what her natural agility gave her.

[Ezzik]

thats not a bug...that pebbles basicly is BASE DAMAGED

[Vasili]

Its the same system as dota i believe- except dota didn't add up your total damage (you were left with a + after your base dmg)

Anything that boosts your primary stats gives you damage but because that is part of base dmg it is deducted, where as anything that is +dmg is not subtracted.

I'm fairly sure this is the case

[Rawful]

Well... by the time you get it to lvl 4, the dps heroes have their attack items so they end up doing little dmg but never negative.

And if you wanted to rush the enfeeble to lvl 4 early game you will end up with an horrible build. gettin killed very often and doing poorly at team fights.

Pebbles is not a dps hero, so he doesn't get damage items, which was my original point.

[Sai]

Skill isn't bugged. Everyone that says it is is wrong. negative damage does 0 damages basically, you will outregen/armor it even if it does 1 as stated above.

Skill works fine, does no damage at neg.

[_swEEt]

sry but i loled when u cast it on tiny instead of valk. anyways picture must be iek 50mb or something taken ages. nice find but