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SmokeFx
08-07-2010, 05:33 PM
Seriously... has a little bit of fame/popularity gone to his head?

Firstly I do like Henry's casting but I really think he's gotten worse and worse since his first few casts.

Whilst he's grown in confidence (a good thing) he's also tried to be more "funny" or something.

Most of the time nowadays I find he comes across as childish. There's a lot more ripping/laughing at teams, unnecessary mocking/laughter, interrupting and putting down his co-casters etc. This was evident during his latest casts this evening (NVD vs EMPR).

It's all so unnecessary. Can't you just go back to that guy who makes his points clearly, stating the facts without trying to be a funny man.

ps sarcasm isn't funny or clever

Dfro
08-07-2010, 05:42 PM
I was going to argue with you then I watched the NL NvD vs Empr where Empr ran 4 healers and Henry started freaking out at the end.

It's funny and I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with it but it might be a bit unprofessional.

Gajun
08-07-2010, 05:44 PM
I do enjoy him more then the other casters cause they all try to hard to be like breakycpk. Also kinda getting bored of the exact same terms he uses all the time...which means what all the other casters use because they are trying to imitate him.

SmokeFx
08-07-2010, 05:47 PM
I was going to argue with you then I watched the NL NvD vs Empr where Empr ran 4 healers and Henry started freaking out at the end.

It's funny and I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with it but it might be a bit unprofessional.

Meh I may be overreacting a bit. Just annoys me sometimes.

I mean, in that cast you mentioned he said somethign along the lines of "people in irc are complaining about me. well they can stop watching the cast and go away".

So unnecessary, and if I was breaky I would be pissed.

JeremyKyle
08-07-2010, 05:48 PM
HenryD is god. Enough said.

Swamplord
08-07-2010, 05:49 PM
It all comes down to that Pollywog w/o boots.

XeliN
08-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Haters gonna hate

Shaunnn
08-07-2010, 05:50 PM
When he interupts randomly and talks over/belittles the other casters even in jest its just not nice listening to it, makes you wanna smack him etc

SmokeFx
08-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Haters gonna hate

Not hating on him.

I still think he's a good caster, just think he's gotten worse compared to when he started.


When he interupts randomly and talks over/belittles the other casters even in jest its just not nice listening to it, makes you wanna smack him etc

Exactly.

Snoopy
08-07-2010, 05:56 PM
I played one game with him.. apparently before hand, the other team remade for him because he was dissatisfied with a teammate.

But then when our team picked rampage went boots first and was an overall moron, henryd downed the remake vote everytime... claiming that he doesn't mind playing with noobs.... or some messed up logic.

Basically he played :pebb: and after getting fed by said rampage jerked off into his hand from excitement.

So this is a surprise to people that he's an A-hole?

XInolanIX
08-07-2010, 06:21 PM
"Snoopys" point obv has nothing to do with HenryDs quality as a caster... I dont really care how he performs while he is playing...

Also, I dont know if he is gay... If so, who cares? What does that have to do with anything?

His quality as a caster is immense... I am actually sad when I watch honcast and he isnt on... He is like Fresh + enough confidence to speak up.
That being sad, his annoyance tonight was getting kinda too much... My point: Keep it civil, call out bad picks/moves/items but state your point once and do so without trying to be smug :).

Haters gonna hate.
HenryD is a good caster and knows his ****.

Big fan

aminGo
08-07-2010, 06:25 PM
very very bad

LuckyStar
08-07-2010, 06:26 PM
9751409
That's the type of guy HenryD has become. He's one of the spectators. Just fast forward through the whole thing and watch the spectator chat.

EDIT: Hm.. it appears that you can't read the Spectator allied chat :(

Radioman
08-07-2010, 06:37 PM
He item shares solo mid maliken in pubs. WHAT AN EVIL GUY.

kirbyruled
08-07-2010, 06:39 PM
HenryDBAG

You heard it here first.

knowitall
08-07-2010, 06:40 PM
he's definitely a douchebag nowadays and he sounds like hes 14.

iGame
08-07-2010, 06:43 PM
Don't really care. I still prefer him casting over anyone else. He's the only of the honcast staff who has a clue whats going on in the game.

Sjimsjim
08-07-2010, 07:30 PM
Where can i se the video where hes freaks out ? cant find Nvd vs Empr

Sl0ws
08-07-2010, 08:52 PM
He is not a a-hole he like any player has his own idea of how to play, and I peronally think we all can agree that HenryD is a good player in hon/dota type games. It angers/upsets him when players on his level make stupid mistakes. He expects a higher quality of play from "pro" players and in my personal opinion I think that most "pro" players would agree with him on his observations if they look back with a open mind.

Sl0ws
08-07-2010, 08:54 PM
Don't really care. I still prefer him casting over anyone else. He's the only of the honcast staff who has a clue whats going on in the game.
Dude Phil is pro, no not really he is a special Olympics candidate and Henryd has at least a clue.

man_guy
08-07-2010, 10:43 PM
Where can i se the video where hes freaks out ? cant find Nvd vs Empr

Not on VoD yet. It was cast today.

He went a little overboard, but I like that he's calling teams out on horrible picks (NvD last picking Armadon).

McBee
08-07-2010, 11:08 PM
He's 18. "Good judgement comes from bad decisions"...etc...etc...etc...

MegaPwnie
08-08-2010, 12:18 AM
dude the fame went to his head. you know if you became a honcast pubstar you would turn into an a-hole too.

DaTom
08-08-2010, 12:27 AM
I think if you watch the replay of that game, it will be kinda boring, i mean, over by 20 mins but they keep playing... HenryD made that game hilarious by raging and making funny comments, I think it was entertaining till the end only because of him. It was unproffesional for sure, but still, that's entertainement imo.

PhasemyDH
08-08-2010, 12:29 AM
HenryD has gotten better at casting.

Rxz
08-08-2010, 12:35 AM
If anything, hes probably showing his true self more than fame getting to his head and changing... people do that when they start to become comfortable at casting or performing to public etc.

Snoopy
08-08-2010, 12:44 AM
My point was, basically he never stopped being an asshat? Because I can tell you from my experience, Breaky is a nice guy, and fun to play HoN with, the one time I played with henry, he was a bag of douche.

_dazE
08-08-2010, 12:54 AM
I agree the latest matches he was a bit over the top, but overall, I think that HenryD's addition to honcast has made the overall experience much better for everyone as a whole. He just needs to act a bit more professional while he's casting. He's a funny guy, and its usually entertaining, but I do agree he went a bit over the top tonight.

Although if I were breaky, I definitely would not be very happy with him.


(And to all of you who're dissing him cuz he's gay.. fck off... it has nothing to do with anything. Grow up.)

MezzoForte
08-08-2010, 01:00 AM
whos Henry D? Hah!

espysadface
08-08-2010, 01:02 AM
I like him a lot hes always fun to listen to and everything. Haters gonna hate.

iSlayDragons
08-08-2010, 01:02 AM
I like him a lot hes always fun to listen to and everything. Haters gonna hate.

Foul
08-08-2010, 01:12 AM
Don't really care. I still prefer him casting over anyone else. He's the only of the honcast staff who has a clue whats going on in the game.

So much this.

aminGo
08-08-2010, 02:10 AM
He has no clue how 2 play gamer hoster

asway for americas next top honcaster

ZabatieI
08-08-2010, 02:25 AM
he is really good caster: he is like freshpro or Kaution( in competitive information) but he knows how to express in the cast like phill or breaky and his accent is really easy of understand.
But I will agree that in NvD vs Empr it exceeded.
He kept repeating 50 times armadon was not a good pick and stopped abruptly the other caster speech .
he is in top 3 of honcast casters in my opinion.

LilDiddly
08-08-2010, 02:30 AM
His voice is ****ing boring.

Tweak
08-08-2010, 02:32 AM
HenryD > Everyone who has posted in this forum.
/thread

Grace
08-08-2010, 02:45 AM
(And to all of you who're dissing him cuz he's gay.. fck off... it has nothing to do with anything. Grow up.)

lol what? I'm pretty sure nobody in this thread said anything about that. You're just searching for more drama. Hate these kinds of replies "oh and to everyone saying _______" when nobody said it.

wikkedwhite
08-08-2010, 02:48 AM
Wait he's gay?! ...

Tim
08-08-2010, 02:49 AM
he's definitely a douchebag nowadays and he sounds like hes 14.

No he doesn't?

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 03:41 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

BillDjango
08-08-2010, 03:42 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

Your such an ******* GOD!

Benjy
08-08-2010, 03:43 AM
it's called BEING BRITISH.

But you're swedish

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 03:44 AM
BRANDON :@

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 03:47 AM
Oh one more thing, about that replay the lucki dude was talking about, I knew and am friends with most players in that game, except for Kizzles whom I do not know. So, when we play random inhouses we talk when we obs, same goes for others. If it was people I didn't know playing I wouldn't said a word.

BillDjango
08-08-2010, 03:47 AM
BRANDON :@

HENRY :#$

``Phoenix
08-08-2010, 03:51 AM
Just keep your cool and keep casting, as many people have said its good to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about in more depth, very smart by honcast to pick a competitive player up as a caster.

dmae
08-08-2010, 04:16 AM
I love HenryD

dvsNP
08-08-2010, 04:17 AM
HenryD is bi

henry i want to lodge your meat rod in my nasil passage

YotKa
08-08-2010, 04:19 AM
I prefer twat-mouthed casters who speak their minds over hypocritical ass-lickers.

Keep doing your stuff mate.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 04:23 AM
I'm sure I can be something in the middle, YotKa;)

Tweak
08-08-2010, 04:32 AM
HenryD for President! :D

Meneldour
08-08-2010, 04:33 AM
Actually, with HenryD being more selfconfident recently, i enjoy his cocasts more. Always liked the other cocaster (will probably spell his name wrong) ?Hippie?, now i tend to incline towards Henry, since you can see the casters are having so much fun, which makes the games not so boring during the farming / turtling phases where nothing spectacular happens.

So kudos for Breaky and Henry, fun to watch your casts :)

Im_Awesome
08-08-2010, 04:34 AM
Nobody worth talking to here is going to care about your sexual orientation HenryD. But the young and the immature will leap on anything to insult and ridicule. If a team makes poor hero choices I expect the announcers to bring it up, but just like it is rude for these people to insult your sexual preferences it is rude to overly insult and ridicule them for their poor choices. I was watching UFC tonight and you always hear Joe Rogan mention mistakes people make while they are fighting but never in an insulting manner. Rogan just states the truth of the errors and often how to correct it. He educates the audience while we watch and that I believe is something all announcers should aspire to emulate. While we as a whole all have some basic HoN knowledge I watch HoNcast for the entertainment of course but mostly for improving my skills by learning how the pros position themselves and how they work together, and to learn from their mistakes.

I enjoy listening to HenryD as Breaky often has to ask him if this was a good choice or not and why. HenryD seems to know what he is talking about in the casts I have watched, but I have not seen the last one in question. Maybe he was acting like an ass but we all have had our moments. Hopefully he learns from this and moves forward and becomes a better HoNcaster for it.

Fafnir
08-08-2010, 04:35 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

No golden shield...
Your opinion is invalid.

ZabatieI
08-08-2010, 04:42 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3
lol HenryD you accents is really really fine of understand( 100% OK)!!

In the other hand when Kaution was cast in honcast I don't understand 80% of what he was saying because of his British accent!! that was horrible especially for foreign like me.

ZabatieI
08-08-2010, 04:43 AM
No golden shield...
Your opinion is invalid.
He have a doombringer in his nickname your opinion is invalid haha.

Hsssh
08-08-2010, 04:44 AM
To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me.

I like you but please don`t say such things, this is the argument that only stupid kids use =/

YawningAngel
08-08-2010, 04:48 AM
What's wrong with a British accent?

Phasmy
08-08-2010, 05:03 AM
HenryD is a man and tells it how it is.

Also Brits began the Apocalypse. You heard it here first.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 05:16 AM
No, I'm serious, if you are that dumb to think I'm going to start talking with an american accent to please your needs I don't know what else to say.

Also, I have DOOMBRINGER in my name. Doombringer owns that sheild to ze ground! :)

xoxo

adone
08-08-2010, 05:32 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

British, Scottish, Irish, the best sounding accents there is! Actually American accent is the worst most boring english accent that exists, so dont friggin apologize for your accent! Your sexuality, why even go there? no matter what people say, this is a friggin game, and you shouldn't have to explain such personal things!

Ignore the bloody fools man. How far you can go and is allowed to go, is between you, and the Honcast crew. I like the drama, the others are bloody too passive! Speak your damn mind, and dont be afraid to be honest, like some of the other passive casters who thinks "Oh no Im not gonna be honest cause then he wont be my e-peen mate, and he is pr0 pr0 pr0"....

Keep it up HD!

knowitall
08-08-2010, 05:33 AM
I honestly just think you're a whiny little kid and you really proved that when you failed to understand a point I was making in the exploit thread (to clarify again in bold so you can read it more easily: I do not support cheaters).

The same goes for your casting. You rarely talk about things. Instead, you whine when you see something you don't like (it's fine to talk about it, but whining about it is annoying) and turn into a little schoolgirl when you see something you do like (it's ok to get excited, but you take it overboard and again, it's annoying).

Basically, stop being annoying and act like a normal person.

Hsssh
08-08-2010, 05:36 AM
No, I'm serious, if you are that dumb to think I'm going to start talking with an american accent to please your needs I don't know what else to say.


Don`t say anything, silence is much better than your "then go away, nobody forces you to listen to me" bs that you said during nvd vs empr. Of course i understand that you won`t change your accent but it`s doesn`t mean that you have to speak like arogant dick and chase people away just because they didn`t like something about you. Be more professional! Thank you.

SmokeFx
08-08-2010, 05:54 AM
Don't get me wrong, HenryD is obviously right, and he should call out bad picks/play.

On the other hand, there is no need to interrupt other casters, or belittle them.

Just say you (caster or player) is wrong/made a mistake. This is what you should have done.

No need to mock them, laugh at them, make fun of them, or go on a huge rant.

Yes there is nothing wrong with the british accent (I'm british) but to tell people who don't like it simply to go away: unnecessarily rude. There's just no need and that's my main problem.

JimmehCake
08-08-2010, 05:55 AM
Will this be the flame thread #2?

Im_Awesome
08-08-2010, 05:57 AM
No, I'm serious, if you are that dumb to think I'm going to start talking with an american accent to please your needs I don't know what else to say.

Also, I have DOOMBRINGER in my name. Doombringer owns that sheild to ze ground! :)

xoxo

Well a doombringer is only good until you drop it. And I'm looking forward to the day I make you drop that doombringer and take it from you. :D

And while I agree 100% that there is no reason to try to hide a British accent, I also agree 100% you should stop saying if you don't like it don't watch HoNcast. I feel that statement is beneath you and only makes you sound foolish. HoNcast is and should be more than anyone one announcer, and I don't watch it just for you, and won't stop just because of you. But rather it should be casts of epic plays by high level players that teaches us what skill level we should aspire to play at and how to function as a team effectively. I've learned so much from watching HoNcast and often tell people who are learning the basics to learn from watching HoNcast as well.

Educate us, entertain us, and excite us, but don't insult us or yourself by reducing it to childish taunts. Hopefully it is beneath the HoNcast crew and the HoN community.

BTW I like the British accent and while I thought you were Swedish I have had no problem understand or listening to you speak. Some of my earliest teachers in Canadian primary school were straight off the boat from England and to this day I find it a very enjoyable accent when spoken correctly. Unfortunately I've also met Brits with horrible corrupted english from poorer areas that made me wonder what happened to the language. It's not just the American's that f'ed up english.

netygraph
08-08-2010, 05:57 AM
Haven't watched Honcast for a while. Can you link games where HenryD is annoying so I can draw my own judgements?

SmokeFx
08-08-2010, 06:01 AM
http://hon.esportmedia.com/video/2010/08/07/newerth-league-kickoff-tournament-nvd-vs-empr-ga-2

This is the one that most people are referring to.

Ganondorf
08-08-2010, 06:15 AM
HenryD is my favorite ever. Sort of. Tied with Breaky. Yeah.

I love it when he can barely talk for laughing at something. So cute. :3

KorokFanNr1
08-08-2010, 06:18 AM
He went overboard on that cast, it's cool he's picking up confidence and all that, but he should try to difference between ventrilo banter and game casting. Call the mistakes, say idiotic, stupid, but don't repeat it 20 times, that's just pouring salt on the wound.

Passive
08-08-2010, 06:22 AM
Don't really care. I still prefer him casting over anyone else. He's the only of the honcast staff who has a clue whats going on in the game.


^

that

since he started casting i stopped muting the casters.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 06:34 AM
I'm not telling them to go away, the logic is just epic, if I don't like the simpsons I wouldn't watch it then write an angry letter saying that I don't like it.

@Knowitall, please refrain from coming anywhere near me, I speak for the entire community that knows you support and defend cheaters that we don't want your opinion.

PulZiV
08-08-2010, 06:43 AM
I agree henryd as just become some kind of childling on honcast, I still love breaky though so i'll continue watching.
I rarely login via the irc client on honcast, but I did yesterday whilst watching Quadheal empire. Just in the hopes that expressing my oppinion about him would get him to stop giggling like a girl.

No personal hatred or anything, the way you express your oppinion just grinds on me henryd.
More freshpro imo

sirshane
08-08-2010, 06:48 AM
I actually thought Henry's casting was really funny. Arma was kinda :madm:
I would have went with :slit: :moon: :plag: :pebb: :pand: (maybe)
You make sure they dont have the time to heal by bursting and ccing them all down fast.

Their picks were insane against the healing line up. It wasnt a long game but it was over at the first team fight because of the bad picks.

Sorrow
08-08-2010, 06:48 AM
Keep it up Henry... see no problems in the way you cast, and i watch most replays @ honcast.

To be honest... its a friggin game... and its a friggin cast. If people dont like the casters, go download the replay, turn up the microphone, and cast away.

sirshane
08-08-2010, 06:55 AM
Oh and the slither in my suggestion was just for his ult and spray to stop their regeneration. The Moon Queen is for her ult and her massive burst. PR for his ult because they have to be grouped up for the heal. Panda and pebbles for serious cc to stop them using their heals.

Im_Awesome
08-08-2010, 06:59 AM
I watched the HoNcast in question and now feel HenryD was poking fun at not just the legion team but Breaky as well as he stated at the start of the game that Armadon was his favorite hero and how excited he was to see him in play. I had to agree with Henry it was a horrible pick up for their last pick as they could already see all the heals on the other team. I took one look at that and thought that is not just a heal strategy, that is a push strategy and that is just what happened. HenryD may have gotten overly excited laughing about this but it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

Not enough focus on educating the viewers on how to counter such a strategy but not nearly as insulting as I was lead to believe by reading this thread.

Favorite quote from the cast, "Balphador is the same as Armadon in the sense that they are both horrible." Not 100% true but I thought it was funny that when Breaky kept pushing him as a possible counter to this Hellborn line up HenryD correctly insisted it wouldn't have changed anything, the same way he was correct Vindicator wouldn't have been able to stop it either. Maybe he wasn't saying it in a manner we found agreeable but I feel he was 100% correct in these statements.

Also funny to hear I wasn't the only one that thought you were Swedish. I'm not sure how I associated you with being Swedish but at least I wasn't alone in this belief.

KorokFanNr1
08-08-2010, 07:01 AM
Keep it up Henry... see no problems in the way you cast, and i watch most replays @ honcast.

To be honest... its a friggin game... and its a friggin cast. If people dont like the casters, go download the replay, turn up the microphone, and cast away.

Im completely fine with the banter-like casts, like the funcasts or minor league, or lntc games, thing here is that they were going in different directions in this case and that's awfull to hear.

It's like if breaky was trying to mantain spectators while HenryD is telling everyone to go home since it was over. We all know it was over, but might aswell try to make the best out of a horrible game.

knowitall
08-08-2010, 07:02 AM
I'm not telling them to go away, the logic is just epic, if I don't like the simpsons I wouldn't watch it then write an angry letter saying that I don't like it.

@Knowitall, please refrain from coming anywhere near me, I speak for the entire community that knows you support and defend cheaters that we don't want your opinion.

No, you speak for the part of the community that can't read.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 07:06 AM
Oh you guys are talking about the insaitarius thing between Breaky and I? You guys really need to realise we are friend and we can joke around like that, we're not just people that meet up at 10pm CEST every night cast then never talk again. It's sad for the people think that we weren't just messing around. Then again the same people think me and Phil hate each other, haha.

Lucky
08-08-2010, 07:12 AM
since it seems honcast staff actually do read these threads, i think its wortwhile in posting. All the casters at honcast do an amazing job, i quite enjoy a mix of accents, so please get onboard a thick Irish gentlemen and an angry aussie. Thanks.

sirshane
08-08-2010, 07:12 AM
Oh you guys are talking about the insaitarius thing between Breaky and I? You guys really need to realise we are friend and we can joke around like that, we're not just people that meet up at 10pm CEST every night cast then never talk again. It's sad for the people think that we weren't just messing around. Then again the same people think me and Phil hate each other, haha.

I think that people are thinking you hate each other just because when you are casting together you talk at the same time and get that awkward "sorry you go" and sometimes you disagree. Its really dumb to just presume that you hate each other because you both are champion trolls so you have a lot in common :P

sirshane
08-08-2010, 07:13 AM
since it seems honcast staff actually do read these threads, i think its wortwhile in posting. All the casters at honcast do an amazing job, i quite enjoy a mix of accents, so please get onboard a thick Irish gentlemen and an angry aussie. Thanks.

Nice im Irish so pick me pick me honcast.

Slimjimx
08-08-2010, 07:16 AM
I certainly love HenryD isn't as PC as breaky, sometimes with breaky you just get the felling that his commentary is almost Robot like, can't really explain it, but there was a example in game where Soulstealer pk'ed in and completly missed all enemies. Breaky said " SS ports in and lands a great ult on....ehhh noone actually" if thats not what he said then its very close.

The point is not that breaky made a mistake, but that he is the commentary, where as the co-casters should be experts in my mind, and provide the competative insight and cut to the bone, when he sees something good or again when soemthing stupid happens.


hmmm coudl keep on writing. but the essence is, if its ok to say "AMAGAD what a great play", certainly is ok to say "what a horrible play. As long as you are trying to be objektive, instead of being politically correct

Im_Awesome
08-08-2010, 07:22 AM
Well that wasn't the most professional cast I've heard from you, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I was led to believe. And if you can't correct Breaky when he is wrong what is the point of a co-caster? The last thing I want to hear is someone to just agree with each his co-caster when he is wrong. And I joke with my friends all the time so I can find no fault with teasing Breaky when he is wrong.

But you did repeatedly point out the same obvious points a few too many times. It is a HoNcast and you should want people to view the entire cast, and while Breaky had to know the game was over already he did try to captivate interest in the cast, while you seemed more interested in mocking it. And that is possibly why people took such offense, the flogging of a dead horse and not trying to captivate interest. Even if it is one sided perhaps the community would be better served by concentrating on educating the viewers on how to counter such a stategy. But I've watched many HoNcasts and thank you, Breaky, Hippie, Toobie One Kanobie (I have no idea how his name is spelled) and all the other casters. I've learned so much from watching the HoNcasts and enjoy them greatly. So please consider my posts as not criticisms but rather constructive suggestions on how to do even better :)

Katsie
08-08-2010, 07:24 AM
since it seems honcast staff actually do read these threads, i think its wortwhile in posting. All the casters at honcast do an amazing job, i quite enjoy a mix of accents, so please get onboard a thick Irish gentlemen and an angry aussie. Thanks.

Omg add an african and an asian too! LOL! maybe a jaja from brazil? oh the possibilities!

sirshane
08-08-2010, 07:29 AM
Omg add an african and an asian too! LOL! maybe a jaja from brazil? oh the possibilities!

Lol nice a few Jamaicans too and the cast will be jamming jamming I hope you like jamming too.....

nephroid
08-08-2010, 07:57 AM
Well that wasn't the most professional cast I've heard from you, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I was led to believe. And if you can't correct Breaky when he is wrong what is the point of a co-caster? The last thing I want to hear is someone to just agree with each his co-caster when he is wrong. And I joke with my friends all the time so I can find no fault with teasing Breaky when he is wron

QFT. I read this thread and then I watched the VOD and I mean wtf ... Why would you get your panties in a twist over this. Keep on doing what you do, HenryD.

QuintonGavin
08-08-2010, 08:07 AM
No, I'm serious, if you are that dumb to think I'm going to start talking with an american accent to please your needs I don't know what else to say.

Also, I have DOOMBRINGER in my name. Doombringer owns that sheild to ze ground! :)

xoxo

You speak with a clear British accent, which is absolutely fine.

There was one caster who's name evades me who was British and he slurred his words so hard I could hardly understand him, and I'm English myself.

As for him being a dbag, he's the best thing that's happened to Honcast ever, you all need to grow a pair and know that if a pro team **** up then he's got the right to be pissed at them. You're the dbags for crying over it.

/peace

Ashuran
08-08-2010, 08:26 AM
Everyone knows the british accent is the best accent in the world, so who would complain about it?

sirshane
08-08-2010, 08:30 AM
Everyone knows the british accent is the best accent in the world, so who would complain about it?

No it is not the Irish accent is the best accent in the world.

syztem
08-08-2010, 09:14 AM
who's henryd?

HCLuck
08-08-2010, 09:33 AM
But at what cost...

Codemonkey
08-08-2010, 09:34 AM
Seriously... has a little bit of fame/popularity gone to his head?

Firstly I do like Henry's casting but I really think he's gotten worse and worse since his first few casts.

Whilst he's grown in confidence (a good thing) he's also tried to be more "funny" or something.

Most of the time nowadays I find he comes across as childish. There's a lot more ripping/laughing at teams, unnecessary mocking/laughter, interrupting and putting down his co-casters etc. This was evident during his latest casts this evening (NVD vs EMPR).

It's all so unnecessary. Can't you just go back to that guy who makes his points clearly, stating the facts without trying to be a funny man.

ps sarcasm isn't funny or clever

HORSESH*T

That is all.

Gannaf
08-08-2010, 09:39 AM
HenryD, so I heard you're Bi?

:)

Reuk
08-08-2010, 09:39 AM
For all of you saying HenryD is the best caster in honcast, well, hes not even a caster, hes just a douche that throws out some smart ass comments from time to time and has no manners towards his fellow commentators/casters.

Xanindorf
08-08-2010, 09:40 AM
since it seems honcast staff actually do read these threads, i think its wortwhile in posting. All the casters at honcast do an amazing job, i quite enjoy a mix of accents, so please get onboard a thick Irish gentlemen and an angry aussie. Thanks.
Where's Tobi-Wan anyway?

Reuk
08-08-2010, 09:43 AM
Where's Tobi-Wan anyway?

You should check the latest VoDs on honcast right now =)

Eraromik
08-08-2010, 09:44 AM
I love henryd but I still think he has too much temper. Even when the HCT guys play together he yells at them if they do the wrong thing.
He definitely was my favorite caster but then I watched some random pubs he played. It was 1600+ and he was flaming as hell.. I mean wtf? there are lots of noobs at 1600+, me for example. You have lots of people looking up to you who will do the exact same things you do, so please teach us to be nice.

Mecadon
08-08-2010, 09:45 AM
HenryD is a good caster. Interrupting the other caster's might be quite annoying depending on the situation, though. Sometimes they just tell you plain stupid things and that's ok to interrupt for some insight.

Asway
08-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Only reason I like HenryD is beacuse he has the balls to tell breaky hes wrong. All of the other Honcast shout casters are to scared to tell breaky hes wrong.

Reuk
08-08-2010, 09:52 AM
I think there is only one thing to be said
HenryD does provide the competitive insight, BUT AT WHAT COST ????

Phasmy
08-08-2010, 10:22 AM
Anyone else enjoy how this thread was made to bash HenryD but only showed how popular he is? :o

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 12:01 PM
Haha, ty for support u guiz<3

Denis
08-08-2010, 12:04 PM
Don't know actually...I like his comments, specially for that *wtf* armadon pick. He was completely right, and actually was a good balance to Breaky who's overly optimistic. One can't be more professional than the other, don't you agree? Those two make a good balance in comments, IMHO.

P.S.
"But at what cost?" :D

Up
08-08-2010, 12:32 PM
he crossed the line from funny to d-bag

Hippie
08-08-2010, 12:45 PM
I just have to say that out of everyone I've ever casted with HenryD feels like he adds the most to the casts. It's true, most of us who shoutcast aren't as talented as competitive players - otherwise we would be playing in these tourneys instead of watching them! Henry is one of the few who can dissect just about everything going on in the game with a very high level of knowledge. The rest of us are learning for sure, and we certainly do our best, but Henry can out-play us and simply out-cast us when it comes to competitive knowledge.

Also, he already apologized for Empr vs NvD. I don't see why this thread has any relevance.

JeremyKyle
08-08-2010, 12:48 PM
Most of the haters seem like 15 year old butthurt retards who are complaining about HenryD because he doesn't suck up to breaky and copy everything he says. Actually i think breaky probably likes HenryD more than other casters because he brings a different flavour to the casts rather than "yeh i totally agree breaky, let me suck you off!!!11111!11!!11!!". He gives his own insight to the situation, which 99 times out of 100 it makes more sense than some of the other sh1t that is said.

Breaky + HenryD + Phil + Hippie = Win.

cheami
08-08-2010, 12:50 PM
all casters suck.

Hax
08-08-2010, 12:57 PM
What annoys me most is that he always mis-interprets what the other casters are saying and continue to belittle them for something they never said.

Noxulus
08-08-2010, 01:01 PM
Henry can you please have a word with breaky over his use of "Boom goes the dynamite". I first heard him using the phrase in a game where :witc: has just ulted someone so i assumed it was a DOTA/Lion thing and let it pass. Now :magm: can also explode dynamite, along with :plag: and :corr:. My tiny brain can just about process this information, but at what cost?

Noxulus
08-08-2010, 01:04 PM
Breaky + HenryD + Phil + Hippie = Win.

NO. Hippie is terribad, he needs more practise. The last cast of his i watched andromeda died, and he was all "Someone just died but i don't know who trolol" when the casters have the mod that shows recent deaths `.`

Gannaf
08-08-2010, 01:07 PM
I just have to say that out of everyone I've ever casted with HenryD feels like he adds the most to the casts. It's true, most of us who shoutcast aren't as talented as competitive players - otherwise we would be playing in these tourneys instead of watching them! Henry is one of the few who can dissect just about everything going on in the game with a very high level of knowledge. The rest of us are learning for sure, and we certainly do our best, but Henry can out-play us and simply out-cast us when it comes to competitive knowledge.

Also, he already apologized for Empr vs NvD. I don't see why this thread has any relevance.

Wait, wait.

Are you bi too?

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Hippie is my honcast.com boyfriend. We make each other laugh and we have a great time casting together, which I said to Breaky the FIRST time we casted with him (breaky will confirm that I said that I liked Hippie from day one).



I love you Hippie. Will you marry me?

VonL`
08-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Henry, you're a good co-caster. You work well with breaky, but you cannot match the awesomeness of Breaky+Tobi. Sorry man! :(

Bartender
08-08-2010, 01:36 PM
Henry can you please have a word with breaky over his use of "Boom goes the dynamite". I first heard him using the phrase in a game where :witc: has just ulted someone so i assumed it was a DOTA/Lion thing and let it pass. Now :magm: can also explode dynamite, along with :plag: and :corr:. My tiny brain can just about process this information, but at what cost?

Breaky should also stop saying dead to rights because he's completely misusing it. And also I heard him misuse "lost in translation". And I remember he used to say contenuing instead of continuing. Also, him saying boom goes the dynamite is just stupid.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 01:40 PM
Dead to rise*

Stuply
08-08-2010, 01:47 PM
So basically you spent $30 to suck.

jajaja

shivz
08-08-2010, 01:52 PM
he is boring to listen to, no talent at all for that sort of job
and talks bullshit constantly

VonL`
08-08-2010, 01:52 PM
Breaky should also stop saying dead to rights because he's completely misusing it. And also I heard him misuse "lost in translation". And I remember he used to say contenuing instead of continuing. Also, him saying boom goes the dynamite is just stupid.

No, it's awesome. "aaaaaand Boom goes the dynamite", preferably a smackdown to make it even more epic.

rightclick
08-08-2010, 01:57 PM
most of the people I know really hate henry

I don't mind him that much but it seems like he's got a little bit of an ego which can be annoying. 100x better than when freshpro casted a game though

oldmang
08-08-2010, 02:02 PM
replace henryd with tobiwonkenobi please

wikkedwhite
08-08-2010, 02:06 PM
Basiclly henryD cast like he's exspecting this team or that team to win. So he's basiclly one sided n cast like that in mind before game starts. Breakyk cast neutral , so it's more entertaining

M72TheLaw
08-08-2010, 02:18 PM
I wanted to slap the **** out of Breaky when he was arguing with Hendry about armadon in that NVD game.

That being said,

HendryD, Straight talk by a Bi Man.

Im_Awesome
08-08-2010, 02:43 PM
HendryD, Straight talk by a Bi Man.

I am not one to bring up someone's sexuality as I just don't care, but that was surprisingly clever.

Hippie
08-08-2010, 02:51 PM
Hippie is my honcast.com boyfriend. We make each other laugh and we have a great time casting together, which I said to Breaky the FIRST time we casted with him (breaky will confirm that I said that I liked Hippie from day one).



I love you Hippie. Will you marry me?

You finally asked! I'm so happy!

Also, to the guy who's saying I'm bad because I missed Andro dying - I appreciate criticism. However, I will say that it can sometimes be VERY hard to follow what's going on on an entire map, especially while you're commenting on something in one lane and action begins in another. I'm working on it though, so hopefully I'll be better in the future.

JeremyKyle
08-08-2010, 02:53 PM
Hippie didn't say yes :(.

Athildur
08-08-2010, 03:39 PM
a) rofl.

b) lol.

c) sarcasm isn't funny? You clearly have no sense of humor, sir!

I realise I'm gonna be called a fanboi, but whatever.

HenryD does a great job at casting. His competitive insight is both valuable and exclusive within the Honcast staff. His 'childish' behaviour generally improves the quality of the casts by making them more fun to watch and a bit more exciting.

Don't get me wrong, breakycpk is an *excellent* caster. But he shines on enthusiasm and energy reporting the actual goings-on of the game. HenryD is a bit less serious on some occasions, but it fits rather well into the dynamic.

As he already apologised, the specific cast where everyone's complaining about is a non-issue. If anything, it proves HenryD knows his boundaries and is sorry when he (inadvertently) crosses them.

Stop being so offended so easily without knowing what's going on. I would think breaky would take some action if he really went too far. It's hardly up to you to decide this for them.

frtzarn
08-08-2010, 03:39 PM
i think you do a great job henry, youre fun to listen to but just try to keep it a tiny bit more professional. then again, all the casters have stuff to improve on so keep up the good work guys! moar funcasts please

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 03:56 PM
At the people saying I have an ego. Yeah I do. I reeeeeeally don't mind having an ego you wanna know why? Every single player that is good at this game (in all e-sports games for that matter) have an ego. I'm 100% sure that's a part of whats makes us good. And no, I'm no expecting a team to win, I'm expecting both teams NOT to make simple mistakes which wouldn't happen in a game.

But I do get to annoyed I know i'll work on it. END OF THREAD NOW PLEASE!

JackSparrow`
08-08-2010, 04:06 PM
Haters guna hate.
we love you henry <3

BASH
08-08-2010, 04:23 PM
Don't hate HenryD for his swedish accent.





:>

ScoutkniveZ
08-08-2010, 05:23 PM
Henry is awezum :) I find him very entertaining. There are many personalities of casters on honcast, and that's why Henry fits in so well, because he differs from the rest. Henry says and reacts like usus watchers do and that's great. Keep going Henry :)

scoutpickguy
08-08-2010, 05:25 PM
henryd is the only guy there worth listening to :)

GucciGod
08-08-2010, 05:28 PM
At the people saying I have an ego. Yeah I do. I reeeeeeally don't mind having an ego you wanna know why? Every single player that is good at this game (in all e-sports games for that matter) have an ego. I'm 100% sure that's a part of whats makes us good. And no, I'm no expecting a team to win, I'm expecting both teams NOT to make simple mistakes which wouldn't happen in a game.

But I do get to annoyed I know i'll work on it. END OF THREAD NOW PLEASE!
Bashing teams that probably wouldn't even let you play for them in the first place isn't just an ego, it's unproessional/arrogant/unmanner.

zeHenryD
08-08-2010, 06:01 PM
umad?

GucciGod
08-08-2010, 06:06 PM
foaming at the mouth, bro

Denis
08-08-2010, 06:06 PM
Bashing teams that probably wouldn't even let you play for them in the first place isn't just an ego, it's unproessional/arrogant/unmanner.

So is speaking bollocks. Unmannered, that is.

Athildur
08-08-2010, 07:06 PM
Bashing teams that probably wouldn't even let you play for them in the first place isn't just an ego, it's unproessional/arrogant/unmanner.

Correction. That's what he's there to do. If he was asked to *only* comment on hero picks and item pickups, then perhaps it would be. But he's asked to provide whatever competitive and personal insight he can give.

And to be honest, there is a difference between random bashing and honest insight into situations. I am hardly ever bothered by him commenting on a team's failure to live up to standards in a game, if that's the case. And it usually is.

Don't pretend like you're better than others. It doesn't suit you.

GucciGod
08-08-2010, 07:19 PM
Correction. That's what he's there to do. If he was asked to *only* comment on hero picks and item pickups, then perhaps it would be. But he's asked to provide whatever competitive and personal insight he can give.

And to be honest, there is a difference between random bashing and honest insight into situations. I am hardly ever bothered by him commenting on a team's failure to live up to standards in a game, if that's the case. And it usually is.

Don't pretend like you're better than others. It doesn't suit you.
That is really a cope-out argument and worthless to say, how am I thinking I'm better than others with what I said? What part exactly?

I don't know how you justify him going on 2 minute rants about "What a team was thinking and how awful their decision was was" competitive insight, that's just annoying to listen to. We all know the team made a mistake, no team is perfect, how come I have to listen to a rant as though HenryD would of easily handled the situation with perfection? This is among the reasons this thread was made in the first place, as it is a farcry from when he was only competitive insight.

I don't really care to hate on HenryD, he obviously fills in a gap Honcast needed, but now it really just seems like it's getting to his head and if he doesn't want threads like this made about it him it would be in his best interest to at least acknowledge these new issues instead of throwing around excuses.

xanderK
08-08-2010, 07:35 PM
I fail to see how pointing out mistakes that a team makes isn't relevant.

Honestly, when I watch sports, it annoys the hell out of me when the broadcasters say "Great play from this guy!" and completely ignore the dummy who messed the play up for the other team or the strategy that nosedived and resulted in the good play.

You need to both praise and criticize or else you're not getting the entire picture of what happened in the game.

Gumdrawp
08-08-2010, 07:49 PM
Most of the time its great to hear from someone that doesnt think that every sustainer on a melee hero is going to automatically be a runed axe (panda especially, i dont know who said it but ...). I cant tell you how annoying it is to me when casters just dont have enough competitive insight, its like the equivalent of me trying to cast the world cup when i dont grasp basic fundamentals of the game.

Regardless of the fact that henry may have belittled hippie or whomever in the quad healing game, he was right, theres not much an armadon can do vs 4 healers and there was no point to argue with him in the first place.

Liability
08-08-2010, 07:59 PM
Personally, I don't have a lot of problem with him. I somehow enjoy negative comments more. Maybe I'm just emo that way though. However, please stop using epic. Thanks.

Also, while at it. Breaky, stop using Boom Goes The Dynamite. Personal preference. Also, not every valk javelin is a nice arrow. Yes, that includes point blank ones. That applies to andro too, it sounds like every swap is a nice swap.

Katsie
08-08-2010, 08:01 PM
Lol nice a few Jamaicans too and the cast will be jamming jamming I hope you like jamming too.....

OMG I totally forgot YES! A honcaster from JA would be awesome! YEAH MON! dylan dylan dylan spits hot fire! :)

Numerio
08-08-2010, 09:31 PM
I liked the :arma: running in the enemy team doing NOTHING, except staying alive. HURRRRR

If you want to master Armadon, you have to be Armadon.

Emerald
08-08-2010, 10:47 PM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

haha I get it right, cus you're bi

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 01:46 AM
"a random guy bashing"

People will ignore you when you have an ego and nothing to back you up. Kinda like going crazy without power. It's awesome to go crazy with power, but you can't go crazy without power nobody listens to you.

RogerDodger
08-09-2010, 01:53 AM
"a random guy bashing"

People will ignore you when you have an ego and nothing to back you up. Kinda like going crazy without power. It's awesome to go crazy with power, but you can't go crazy without power [it's boring] nobody listens to you.
I don't know why people get mad about the ego, probably jealousy.

Anyways, Tobiwan Kenobi is still the best shoutcaster, his voice is so amazing.

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 01:53 AM
HEAR HEAR!

RawSuicide
08-09-2010, 02:33 AM
Hi there,
IMO the shoutcast some people whine about was one of the best I ever watched. It was very entertaining. Perhaps Henry could have been nicer to the NvD guys but I don't really care because I don't know anyone of them.

I like Honcast very much and watch at least one game every day before I go sucking in public games with my noob friends.

For me this still is a game I play for fun after work with people I like. And because of that I don't really understand why people go mad bacause of such trivial things.

Chill guys!



Anyways, Tobiwan Kenobi is still the best shoutcaster, his voice is so amazing.

Huh... I don't like him shoutcasting. My english is to bad to follow him. He talks way too fast for me. And he is so pseudo excited... I'm no fanboy of him.

OFWGKTAswag
08-09-2010, 02:38 AM
Huh... I don't like him shoutcasting. My english is to bad to follow him. He talks way too fast for me. And he is so pseudo excited... I'm no fanboy of him.

clientside error

_dazE
08-09-2010, 02:46 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3

<3


I love what you do at honcast, as many do, but join a competitive team man, I like seeing you play as well :P

Chritte
08-09-2010, 02:50 AM
HENRYD IF YOU SEE THIS QUOTE ME !
/ fanboi :arma:

The_Thrill
08-09-2010, 03:11 AM
guys im the best caster. everyone knows that

DwightHoward
08-09-2010, 03:17 AM
Anyone who dislikes his accent, one thing to say to you. pebkac.

souporman
08-09-2010, 03:29 AM
guys im the best caster. everyone knows that

zndr begs to differ.

...


I'm glad he's not allowed on the mic anymore.

Trippt
08-09-2010, 05:17 AM
"a random guy bashing"

People will ignore you when you have an ego and nothing to back you up. Kinda like going crazy without power. It's awesome to go crazy with power, but you can't go crazy without power nobody listens to you.


...simpsons quote?
http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/500px-russ_cargill.png

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 06:18 AM
Hey, I love the simpsons!

Spankert
08-09-2010, 06:21 AM
Hey, I love the simpsons!

your my god

DwightHoward
08-09-2010, 07:05 AM
You're my God.
Fixed.

KalurO
08-09-2010, 07:12 AM
Fixed.

God is only written with a capital G, if the person is religious. IIRC.

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 07:17 AM
He fixed "your" to "you're". FAIIIIIIIIL:zeph::zeph::zeph::zeph::zeph::zeph:

KalurO
08-09-2010, 07:44 AM
Hey, I love the simpsons!
Good for you.

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY.
Apologising does not justify badly done things. If I stand on your foot by accident, I can say sorry.
If I hit you in the face because I'm mad, I can't justify it by saying sorry.
"Dude! I said sorry, why so mad?!?!?!" ..you get what I mean.
You went overboard, nothing accidental about it. So saying sorry is you being a hypocrite, we judge you for that, and we have all the reason to.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.
Stop being a jackass, people are giving constructive feedback on your accent. That a neutral accent is more pleasing and easy to listen to than a full out british accent. Imagine a caster saying "Car" or "Cahhhhhh" , I know which one would be easier and nicer to listen to. No discrimination, just plane opinion/fact. Nobody is asking you to use an American accent, they?re requesting a more "neutral" accent. And to be honest, I agree with them.
A neutral accent is the best way to go, neutral pronounciation.

I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday.
ONCE AGAIN, apologizing for something deliberate is hypocrit and useless, it doesn't solve anything.

No, I'm serious, if you are that dumb to think I'm going to start talking with an american accent to please your needs I don't know what else to say.
Once again, we are requesting a neutral accent. We give you tips/advice and feedback, and you call us dumb? Jesus, what is wrong with you?!

Oh you guys are talking about the insaitarius thing between Breaky and I? You guys really need to realise we are friend and we can joke around like that, we're not just people that meet up at 10pm CEST every night cast then never talk again. It's sad for the people think that we weren't just messing around. Then again the same people think me and Phil hate each other, haha.
We do realize that. And breaky says he likes to see himself as a professional caster. As should you.
You have the privilege of casting the comp HoN games, professionally. So please act like it and don't "mess around". People know you were messing around, but it's unprofessional.

At the people saying I have an ego. Yeah I do. I reeeeeeally don't mind having an ego you wanna know why? Every single player that is good at this game (in all e-sports games for that matter) have an ego. I'm 100% sure that's a part of whats makes us good. And no, I'm no expecting a team to win, I'm expecting both teams NOT to make simple mistakes which wouldn't happen in a game.
Chu once said that, in order to improve you need to look at your flaws and not have an Ego. If you have an ego you will start making mistakes. The first step to being a professional is having fans. Maintaining them and appreciating feedback. Acting like a total a-hole is not going to give you that.

You are actually trying to justify you being an a-hole, when you aren?t even part of the top HoN players, you?re a bit above average and you think you?re a god? Yeah go be that a-hole safely behind your computer, you?ll lose your playerbase slowly.
My feedback to you: Get off that high horse and act a bit more mature, people will get a more positive image of you and you will actually see the light someday and might actually improve to an actual competitive level.


People will ignore you when you have an ego and nothing to back you up. Kinda like going crazy without power. It's awesome to go crazy with power, but you can't go crazy without power nobody listens to you.
Thing is, you don?t really have any power at all as it is. You happen to play a tiny bit above average and you cast HoN games. The playerbase is against you and your ego and immaturity, always "messing around" and raging going overboard. The player base is tired of you not accepting feedback and just calling whine of them. They're tired of you being a jerk and you defending your flaws rather than being open to feedback.

They used to love you, now more and more of them are starting to dislike you.
You can reply with "I don't care", that is your right yes.

He fixed "your" to "you're". FAIIIIIIIIL
Yeah, you can stop trolling now.

umad?
No really, you can stop trolling now.


Also, I have DOOMBRINGER in my name. Doombringer owns that sheild to ze ground!
You are so mature.. stop trolling, act like the professional you claim to be please.


Haha, ty for support u guiz<3
Learn to spell and once more: stop trolling. Grow up, you're a professional caster.

I hope you take the time to read my post and will actually be open to what I wrote in this post. Right now you're just waving everything of in this really immature/ego/sarcastic way, that's not how it should be HenryD.

Tamachan
08-09-2010, 08:16 AM
ALRIGHT HERE GOES;

Yesterday, I admit I went overboard an I apologized in iRC straight after the match. If you didn't see it, I'M SORRY. Now, on the other hand, that was one of the most epicly dumb picks to pick against a healing strat, which by the way was obvious with their first three picks looking back.

To the people who whine about my accent, don't watch me. I can't (and won't) do anything about my accent, it's called BEING BRITISH. It's our language, you f'ed it up. And NO, I'm not gay, I'm bi, like that HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME BEING A GAMER, but you all seem interested so why not.

To the people who like me for what I do at honcast, thanks, and to the same people I (ONCE AGAIN) apologize for yesterday. On the other hand people like knowitall who don't like me 'cos I hate them because they are cheaters or support cheaters, go be annoying somewhere else.


Love you all <3


You heard it here first

Triple H

Henry's Half Homosex

Snoopy
08-09-2010, 08:18 AM
Once again, we are requesting a neutral accent. We give you tips/advice and feedback, and you call us dumb? Jesus, what is wrong with you?!


There is no such thing as a neutral accent. Your just telling him to be less english? When your telling someone to do like that, they will be more conscious of their sound instead of the crap they are saying.

You can't honestly ask for a neutral accent from a shoutcaster who is not going to attend a few months of speech counseling. That's how you achieve a neutral accent. And another note to this, nobody wants you or expects you to do this. I can understand him fine, why can't anyone else?

KalurO
08-09-2010, 08:21 AM
There is no such thing as a neutral accent. Your just telling him to be less english? When your telling someone to do like that, they will be more conscious of their sound instead of the crap they are saying.

You can't honestly ask for a neutral accent from a shoutcaster who is not going to attend a few months of speech counseling. That's how you achieve a neutral accent. And another note to this, nobody wants you or expects you to do this. I can understand him fine, why can't anyone else?

Leaving your opinion out of the picture for a second, how do you feel about the way he reacted towards his 'fanbase'? Was it a normal justified reply or do you feel he could've been a bit more open and constructive?

Tamachan
08-09-2010, 08:26 AM
There is no such thing as a neutral accent. Your just telling him to be less english? When your telling someone to do like that, they will be more conscious of their sound instead of the crap they are saying.

You can't honestly ask for a neutral accent from a shoutcaster who is not going to attend a few months of speech counseling. That's how you achieve a neutral accent. And another note to this, nobody wants you or expects you to do this. I can understand him fine, why can't anyone else?

I'm Scottish, and I play with Americans. I neutralise my accent slightly in order to be understood better. I also have to drop a lot of the Scottish pronunciation in work as it's an international company. At home it's completely different. Are you trying to tell me an Englishman can't do the same? I think it's just unwillingness.

lolsworth
08-09-2010, 08:37 AM
IMO HenryD's casting went downhill from when he first started - where his competitive insight was enlightening as well as being complimentary to Breaky/cocaster's blow-by-blows and discussions,
all the way down to the infamous Armadon game - by this time his "insight" was downright offensive, and his attitude to his co-casters condescending (or at least sounded like it).
After the NL final though I think he's back in control (my girlfriend asked if the commentator was drunk back when I was watching the Armadon game lol) and the cast seemed to flow a lot better.


I don't know how you justify him going on 2 minute rants about "What a team was thinking and how awful their decision was was" competitive insight, that's just annoying to listen to.
When the bad plays are made, I think someone definitely needs to call it out, so respect for that. However, it can be done in much more professional a manner than the Armadon game, but I think that's quite apparent, especially to HenryD seeing as he's apologised etc.

I don't know what orange text is talking about tbh, does he really expect Henry to change his accent? Not everyone can speak as clearly as BreakyCPK, you want Henry to go live in America or something for a year or so to get a more neutral pronunciation? That's absurd mate.

I think this definitely summed it up:

I think there is only one thing to be said
HenryD does provide the competitive insight, BUT AT WHAT COST ????
HonCast definitely benefits from the competitive insight, though Henry is obviously going to step on some toes by calling out the mistakes the top teams are making.

PS I think I saw mention of a demand for an angry Aussie caster...I'm an Aussie, and I can definitely get angry over HoN :D

KalurO
08-09-2010, 08:47 AM
, it can be done in much more professional a manner than the Armadon game, but I think that's quite apparent, especially to HenryD seeing as he's apologised etc.

I don't know what orange text is talking about tbh, does he really expect Henry to change his accent? Not everyone can speak as clearly as BreakyCPK, you want Henry to go live in America or something for a year or so to get a more neutral pronunciation? That's absurd mate.


I am dutch, I live in an area where we use a certain dutch accent, tad dialect. I admit it sounds like **** (noord brabant for the ones interested).
But if I have to I can switch to the official clear dutch language no problem, not a single trace of an accent.

The scottish player that posted above here, also showed how he can 'mask' his accent and talk more official english.

Nobody is telling HenryD to talk American, stop making stuff up, thanks. We're asking him for a more neutral english accent.

Also, you're okay with it that if someone does something deliberate, and just says sorry after and assumes it's okay? I call that hypocrit.

It's abusing the word "sorry", plain wrong. Sorry is for when you did something accidental, it's not a free-out-of-jail card for when you do something bad deliberately.

Fuzzel
08-09-2010, 08:56 AM
Wuts wrong about Henry's Swedish accent?

KorokFanNr1
08-09-2010, 08:57 AM
They invented the ****ing language, it's your fault if you've been spoiled by holywood.

Tamachan
08-09-2010, 08:59 AM
I am dutch, I live in an area where we use a certain dutch accent, tad dialect. I admit it sounds like **** (noord brabant for the ones interested).
But if I have to I can switch to the official clear dutch language no problem, not a single trace of an accent.

The scottish player that posted above here, also showed how he can 'mask' his accent and talk more official english.

Nobody is telling HenryD to talk American, stop making stuff up, thanks. We're asking him for a more neutral english accent.

Also, you're okay with it that if someone does something deliberate, and just says sorry after and assumes it's okay? I call that hypocrit.

It's abusing the word "sorry", plain wrong. Sorry is for when you did something accidental, it's not a free-out-of-jail card for when you do something bad deliberately.


True it should be normal for anyone with a strong accent.
Oh god though, Noord Brabant you're almost Belgian ;). I would work hard to disguise that accent! lol. In Holland I know a few fryslan"ders" and they are hard enough to understand :D

Ernie888
08-09-2010, 09:06 AM
Get Chappy back, best competitive caster ever. Why do the best stop playing / caring... apart from se`busca! welcome back !

lolsworth
08-09-2010, 09:09 AM
I'm pretty sure using a dialect is different to having an accent. Anyways, it is true that you can "mask" an accent, however HenryD's accent does not detract from the cast in any way, it is totally comprehensible and I don't think anyone has trouble understanding what he says, so why should he try and mask it?
And I don't know why you're so hung up on his "hypocrit" apology. I didn't say what he did was okay, I called him out on it, as have many people in this thread. He's apologised, acknowledged he was out of line and he's probably a better caster because of it. I hope to enjoy much more of his competitive insight alongside BreakyCPK in the future

KalurO
08-09-2010, 09:15 AM
I'm pretty sure using a dialect is different to having an accent. Anyways, it is true that you can "mask" an accent, however HenryD's accent does not detract from the cast in any way, it is totally comprehensible and I don't think anyone has trouble understanding what he says, so why should he try and mask it?
And I don't know why you're so hung up on his "hypocrit" apology. I didn't say what he did was okay, I called him out on it, as have many people in this thread. He's apologised, acknowledged he was out of line and he's probably a better caster because of it. I hope to enjoy much more of his competitive insight alongside BreakyCPK in the future

Actually he was super cocky about it and just said that if you dont like what he did you can f- off, as he 'apologised'. It's his whole attitude I disagree with, not so much the apologising.

An apology for something deliberate is 'hoping' he will be forgiven and everything will be okay. The way he used it, is to justify everything.

That's what I was saying ;).

man_guy
08-09-2010, 09:17 AM
Get Chappy back, best competitive caster ever.

Yellow takes out Pink with some assistance from Blue.

Secrecy
08-09-2010, 10:35 AM
Much preferred him when he was newer and less confident with casting. I still think he adds a lot to the games and much prefer watching the matches where he is casting than where he is not.

However, stating points over and over again in a single cast gets pretty tiring and just ends up making more of a point out of the mistake than is necessary, especially for what is meant to be a professional cast.

evotech
08-09-2010, 10:55 AM
OP: you're just jealous you don't have the competitive insight HenryD has.

KalurO
08-09-2010, 10:57 AM
OP: you're just jealous you don't have the competitive insight HenryD has.

Rofl, read my pretty orange post and stop trolling the topic while you're at it.

Wrekt`
08-09-2010, 11:03 AM
Love Henry for not being afraid to say what he thinks about picks, items etc. That's what he is on the cast for, not to be politically correct and be boring by saying the same old PC crap. I appreciate his insight, keep it up dude. When he says something, it is obviously his OPINION, you may agree or disagree.

SmokeFx
08-09-2010, 11:15 AM
Love Henry for not being afraid to say what he thinks about picks, items etc. That's what he is on the cast for, not to be politically correct and be boring by saying the same old PC crap. I appreciate his insight, keep it up dude. When he says something, it is obviously his OPINION, you may agree or disagree.

Well that's not the point about this thread.

I don't think the people complaining disagree with what he's saying, I certainly don't. It's the manner in which it's said, which I just feel there's no need for.

Obviously it's not gonna stop me watching and enjoying his casts or anything. Tbh people have blown this way out of proportion from what was originally intended but meh I guess that's the internet :)

Secrecy
08-09-2010, 11:23 AM
Love Henry for not being afraid to say what he thinks about picks, items etc. That's what he is on the cast for, not to be politically correct and be boring by saying the same old PC crap. I appreciate his insight, keep it up dude. When he says something, it is obviously his OPINION, you may agree or disagree.

Casters being impartial is nothing to do with being politically correct. Pointing out mistakes is great, but repeating them to the point where it gives the impression (though, I don't necessarily think it is intended this way) that he is just having a go at teams isn't particularly constructive.

fenrixx
08-09-2010, 11:28 AM
I enjoy every match that henryD is co-casting because not only for his competetive insight, but for his critism. Maybe he was a bit to "harsh" at that armadon pickup vs the quad healer team, but everyone knows that was a terrible pick.

And for his "voice/dialect" If you cannot understand what he is saying, get yourself a new headset.

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 11:49 AM
Along with everyone else (I'm sure atleast 95% of the community) Did not read Kaluro's wall of text. Here is my opinion for him; TROLOLOLOLK? Haters gonna hate, I don't need to care about haters. I have my lovers (Hippie) and supports, thats all I need! XOXO

nuttz96
08-09-2010, 11:52 AM
I used to really hate honcast because people would just repeat what I already knows. HenryD changed all of that. The ways he justify the picks or criticize item build or plays bring so much more to the cast. I actually feel like I am learning something.

As some other posters have said in this thread, the other casters beside HenryD are too "nice" or are not confident enough in themselves to contradict the plays made by the pro players. HenryD has the experience and the achievements to back up his talks, so why are you guys hating on him? A stupid play is stupid. HenryD does not sugarcoat words. If he sees something wrong, the man tells us straight up what is happening.

Unlike other competitive online games, HoN does not require the lighting fast reflex or aiming skill of fps games, nor the extreme micro management of multiple units of strategy games like starcraft. The most important skill in HoN is a good decision making. To me, HoN games are won by the team that makes the least amount of mistake. So far, HenryD has done an exceptional jobs pointing out the errors in each games comparing to the other shoutcasters who neglect these flaws and deem them good plays by the opposing team instead.

Sauron`
08-09-2010, 11:53 AM
I was going to argue with you then I watched the NL NvD vs Empr where Empr ran 4 healers and Henry started freaking out at the end.

It's funny and I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with it but it might be a bit unprofessional.
Ya that was VERY VERY annoying.

CPT_STORK
08-09-2010, 12:00 PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/043/917/original/hatersgonnapanda.jpg?1269196691

Thermy
08-09-2010, 12:11 PM
I like HenryD specifically because he isn't afraid to say a team/player ****ed up, instead of tippytoeing around the issue like Breaky does saying "I'm not sure it's a good idea but who knows it may end up working out"

Henry instead just says the right thing, like "That was a terrible item pick up I don't know what he was thinking at all it is absolutely worthless"

Ashur
08-09-2010, 12:19 PM
You people are overacting, what do his comments mean to you? Would you rather listen to other casters say "well that's an interesting build, I bet he has something great planned" (I remember this from the game where accursed leveled sear over his heal and ended up sucking, go figure).

He's blunt, sarcastic, honest and RIGHT.



In all honesty I prefer when people aren't afraid to say "that is a terrible pick, a person of his skill should know better" rather than dancing around the issue so noone's internet feelings get hurt (hint they won't because noone cares).

It might've been slightly unprofessional with how he acted in the vs 4 healers game but still, can't say he wasn't right, maybe too brutal on them but still he spoke the truth.

Melidere
08-09-2010, 12:19 PM
STUFF
Neutral?

What?

Queens English? Sure that'd be nice but HenryD isn't that far off, not compared to some English accents. If people had problems hearing what he said due to accent, which I doubt coz all I've heard is 'OH LOLZ YOUR ACCENT IS STOOPIDZ', then I don't really know what to say. Watch more English/american movies? HenryD's accent is one of the easiest to understand I've ever heard.

Oh and one more thing, you're quoting Chu as if he was ****ing Sun Tzu. wtf man, srsly wtf

zeHenryD
08-09-2010, 12:22 PM
My accent and dialect is actually the Queens english. Sup brah?

SeraNoxa
08-09-2010, 12:24 PM
Why has HenryD become an entertaining shoutcaster ? cuz he says what he is thinking, and yeah he will be wrong, and he will be right, but thats him, like it or not.

So to answer on first line: Why has HenryD become an a-hole?

He haven't..
.http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/clanmyller/bullshitprotectorve4.jpg

Slut
08-09-2010, 12:38 PM
hasn't*

CPT_STORK
08-09-2010, 12:39 PM
hasn't*
useful as it is insightful, five star post would read again.

Dann3y
08-09-2010, 01:24 PM
For all the people crying and whining about Henry there's just one thing to say "Remember kids it's down the road not across the street".

KalurO
08-09-2010, 02:10 PM
My accent and dialect is actually the Queens english. Sup brah?

Someone writes you a big constructive post and all you do is reply with a sentence followed by a lame meme. I guess we shouldn't be expecting much more from you -.-

EGNesTea420
08-09-2010, 02:20 PM
Someone writes you a big constructive post and all you do is reply with a sentence followed by a lame meme. I guess we shouldn't be expecting much more from you -.-

God damn dude who cares. If you're that morally opposed to the way he presents himself or casts or sounds than mute the cast or just ignore it.

Honestly you didn't post a constructive post, you posted a bunch of garbage advice such as telling him to change his accent. You've got an issue if you can't understand the guy currently.

ps: posting in orange text doesn't make your opinion more important.

KalurO
08-09-2010, 02:23 PM
God damn dude who cares. If you're that morally opposed to the way he presents himself or casts or sounds than mute the cast or just ignore it.

Honestly you didn't post a constructive post, you posted a bunch of garbage advice such as telling him to change his accent. You've got an issue if you can't understand the guy currently.

ps: posting in orange text doesn't make your opinion more important.

It was a big post with lots of seperated quotes, the text color change was for easier readability ;). If everything'd be white it would be annoying to read. Been there done that.

Thanks for your input though. and only a minority of my post was about his accent, he was claiming that we wanted him to talk american, which is not the case. I explained it to him.

My post was more constructive than any other post in this thread, especially Henry's immature posts ;). Shows what he's really like huh? Worth as much as the 5 eurocent i accidentally dropped out of my pocket earlier today. Didnt bother picking it up. But I'm sure he appreciates you picking up the small change of the floor and kissing it's ass thoroughly, if 5 cents would have an ass. That's your way of doing things and I respect that.

Loopin
08-09-2010, 02:53 PM
The accent issue is irrelevant. He's perfectly understandable and pronunciation is fine. He's a native English speaker which is a hell of a lot better than the non native speakers who often have incomplete vocabularies and stutter because of it.

The ego on the other hand is irritating. To be honest, though, it's who he is and while it detracts a lot from his quality as a caster he does add to the casts as a whole.

Sense
08-09-2010, 02:59 PM
For all the people crying and whining about Henry there's just one thing to say "Remember kids it's down the road not across the street".

How old are you?

If it's over 20, why don't you act like it?

jar
08-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Nothing is more annoying than shoutcasters who dick ride the players. When Breaky says "yea this guy's a good player" I want to throw up. At least HenryD calls people out for doing dumb ****.

canikizu
08-09-2010, 03:24 PM
I'm pretty sure using a dialect is different to having an accent. Anyways, it is true that you can "mask" an accent, however HenryD's accent does not detract from the cast in any way, it is totally comprehensible and I don't think anyone has trouble understanding what he says, so why should he try and mask it?

Actually the whole time he talked about Amardon in that game, I could only hear "amardon" "heal" "bad pick" "fail". I have to think of the rest of his point he's trying to make lolz.
The same with any other cases. Love to play puzzle with henryD's opinion. But I know it's my side's fault, so lolz me.


Back to the point, I agree that HenryD did have bad manner sometimes, especially in the amardon game. He made his point at the beginning of the game, we got it. But he didn't really need to use the mocking talk "Heal" "See, heal", "heal", every times they do that. Even when breaky made his point that if they really focus burst damage on a hero, they can kill him, he didn't really need to show his so-what-? attitude.

Is that annoying? Yes. But in good days, I can live with it like most of us can. He apologized already, so I don't really mind.

OFWGKTAswag
08-09-2010, 03:47 PM
How old are you?

If it's over 20, why don't you act like it?

lol, at this point the HCT staff's immaturity both on and off the air (with the exception of breaky, at least he attempts to sound professional most of the time) doesn't phase me anymore. I'm surprised you're not accustomed to it yet.

kattkiss
08-09-2010, 04:02 PM
For all the people crying and whining about Henry there's just one thing to say "Remember kids it's down the road not across the street".

So you're encouraging "kids" to commit suicide?
Wow...

Denis
08-09-2010, 04:02 PM
Along with everyone else (I'm sure atleast 95% of the community) Did not read Kaluro's wall of text. Here is my opinion for him; TROLOLOLOLK? Haters gonna hate, I don't need to care about haters. I have my lovers (Hippie) and supports, thats all I need! XOXO

Specially his orange part with "accent" bs. Jeez, ppl will just fabricate something (anything!? [orange]) in order to "pursue" somebody. That gains them [orange] glory. NOT.

Cheers m8, you're doing a damn fine job as a caster!

DarthCidious
08-09-2010, 04:09 PM
xanderk and breaky, the only 2 really decent shoutcasters. though they might lack of knowledge, they at least try to make it entertaining.
henryd is like "hey guys ima let you know my personal opinion about everything" thats not what you shold do as a shoutcaster

EGNesTea420
08-09-2010, 05:11 PM
It was a big post with lots of seperated quotes, the text color change was for easier readability ;). If everything'd be white it would be annoying to read. Been there done that.

Thanks for your input though. and only a minority of my post was about his accent, he was claiming that we wanted him to talk american, which is not the case. I explained it to him.

My post was more constructive than any other post in this thread, especially Henry's immature posts ;). Shows what he's really like huh? Worth as much as the 5 eurocent i accidentally dropped out of my pocket earlier today. Didnt bother picking it up. But I'm sure he appreciates you picking up the small change of the floor and kissing it's ass thoroughly, if 5 cents would have an ass. That's your way of doing things and I respect that.

It's got nothing to do with me trying to defend him or suck up to him. I just find you really annoying to be taking **** like this so seriously.

They're just shoutcasters for a website. That's all.

Sense
08-09-2010, 05:39 PM
lol, at this point the HCT staff's immaturity both on and off the air (with the exception of breaky, at least he attempts to sound professional most of the time) doesn't phase me anymore. I'm surprised you're not accustomed to it yet.

Yea, it's really kind of sad.

Era3
08-09-2010, 05:41 PM
He permaflamed a guy who lost his mom in HCT Channel all the time, well both trolling around. Very professional. He doesn't even know much about the game. Nice competitive insight.

#hate :D

fjesbesj
08-09-2010, 05:42 PM
lol, at this point the HCT staff's immaturity both on and off the air (with the exception of breaky, at least he attempts to sound professional most of the time) doesn't phase me anymore. I'm surprised you're not accustomed to it yet.
Agreed. Honcast members need to start acting professional. BreakyCPK is the only one that actually gives a good name to the Honcast organization.

Anyways, back on topic. HenryD might have competitive experience but really bashes on people. Its rather annoying whenever he does. I mean hes a great caster and its always nice to know how a competitive player thinks, but please knock it down a notch when it comes to shoutcasting these matches.

whatghost
08-09-2010, 06:04 PM
Put Tobi and HenryD in the same cast so I can cream my pants, please.

elemntZ
08-09-2010, 06:15 PM
so what if he bashes people? commentators of every sport/e-sport often do it. it makes them unique. the one thing that does annoy me though, and i did watch that empr match, is his awkwardness. he told some terrible joke and tried to laugh it off or just couldn't explain it, if anything he needs to work on his social skills. other than that he seems pretty ok.

Saucery
08-09-2010, 06:19 PM
so much rage

fjesbesj
08-09-2010, 06:22 PM
so what if he bashes people? commentators of every sport/e-sport often do it. it makes them unique. the one thing that does annoy me though, and i did watch that empr match, is his awkwardness. he told some terrible joke and tried to laugh it off or just couldn't explain it, if anything he needs to work on his social skills. other than that he seems pretty ok.


So what? Bashing on people basically shows that hes an ass, or he doesn't understand why they did a certain thing. When Honcast discusses item picks or team picks and they figure out why the certain team chose to do this or that, thats when Honcast shines. But when any commentator just babbles on about what he would've gone, thats personal opinion. Shoutcasting with others means that you need to have an organized manner on when to speak and how to act professional.

And unique? Being an ass makes you unique? Or the same as all the other shoutcasters that failed.



Again, no offence to HenryD. I'm just using stronger words than I should.

SheitansEye
08-09-2010, 06:22 PM
Building shrunken on that Soulstealer is absolutely useless, against this lineup, look at nymph ect... 30mins later ohh by shrunken i meant portal key. Who is this noob? HenryDumbbag?

And who tought it was a good idea to let him say a word? No clue what honcast is doing but haveing 3 guys to cast the same game is a bit to much, 2 is more then enough if one falls out.

Artic
08-09-2010, 07:46 PM
^He misspoke it's something that creatures called Humans do from time to time.

Noxulus
08-09-2010, 07:53 PM
This thread raised some important issues, but at what cost? :scou:

zeHenryD
08-10-2010, 03:53 AM
I love people that are actually watching half the game. I said like 2 minutes after i said Shrunken Head that I missspoke and meant portal key. If you had ANY idea of the asian scene you wuld understand this, but your a dumbass so just shut your mouth your arguments are stupid.

@NaBT your signature is you bragging about an FF win against LOAD, I'm not even gonna remotly answer your statement.

@Thyl the dude was trolling, he told me like 20 seconds after we where rofling tht he was trolling, just messig around. You should really learn that the INTERNET isn't always telling the truth ya dumbo!(:

@People being sad cos I bash on people. WELCOME TO THE COMP. SCENE. You think it's all ladida we such each other off? No. GTFO back to your publics and when you get to competitve level you will unerstand that people will still fame eachother out for doing dumbass misstakes, inhouses, mix-scrims and even your own team from time to time. YOu know what you do about it? YOU SUCK IT UP, when you make mistakes you make mistakes, you learn from it and you move on. Now I'm not gonna change the way I cast, my accent, I've already stated that I won't stay on the same subject for too long. Now all in all this message was me saying, I do not care what you guys have to say about me when it comes to casting, unless is constructive. Not something about 5 people have written before.(allbeit not in the same topnotch grammer interwebz users as you guys do makes you look cool!) Anyway what im trying to say;

If you want to make a real effect on HoNcast, go donate money and then you might get your opinion heard. Writing stuff you don't like ; "HIS ACCENT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND", "HE BASHES ON PEOPLE :((((" "I DONT LIKE HIM WHERE IS TOBI" isn't gonna help. TYVM CYA

Elyriah
08-10-2010, 04:01 AM
Along with everyone else (I'm sure atleast 95% of the community) Did not read Kaluro's wall of text. Here is my opinion for him; TROLOLOLOLK? Haters gonna hate, I don't need to care about haters. I have my lovers (Hippie) and supports, thats all I need! XOXO


Wow. This is a pretty bad (my opinion, sorry) answer to a long text of fair criticism i've seen, which simply proves you just can't really handle it.
(Apart from your post seeming immature, you straight forward state that all you care about are all those "lovers" honouring you and hyping you, but you wouldn't give a **** if someone tried to give you some constructive criticism.)

I haven't been around long enought to really get what's going on, and I have started reading at page 10, so I don't want tu judge a whole situation. But from what I read in this thread, take away all the fanbois and lovers and then read the remaining 5 posts, filter away the hate and take some of the things said seriously.

About the accent.. again: I can't compare or judge, I think I've never heard you speaking. The problem i encouter with the british accent is that ppl sometimes tend to "swallow" entire parts of words. if you speed that up, e.g. in a cast, where you speak FAAAAST, I honestly can't follow again.
If that now is my failure or in your hands to do something about the fact that some cast-followers are not british is up to your decision. but I hope this makes you see what I mean. And I hope you realize that a lot of people would appreciate it a lot if you tried to talk in a clear way : )

Edit: watched the cast in question and I honestly didn't find so much rage and immaturity as everybody said in this thread : /
I only had problems understanding you from time to time, mostly when you had to speak fast words just blurred into each other and I'd really appreciate if you cared a bit more about that (you know, professional ones at tv go through lots of training for commenting a game..)

/Ely

Edit2: why?


but your a dumbass so just shut your mouth your arguments are stupid...

your signature is you bragging about an FF win against LOAD, I'm not even gonna remotly answer your statement. ...

People being sad cos I bash on people. I'd just say, as a Commentator it's not yor job to bash. I guess everyone realizes how hard competitive play is.

If you want to make a real effect on HoNcast, go donate money and then you might get your opinion heard...

Please. take some deep breath and then take at least some people in this thread seriously

The_Thrill
08-10-2010, 04:20 AM
I love people that are actually watching half the game. I said like 2 minutes after i said Shrunken Head that I missspoke and meant portal key. If you had ANY idea of the asian scene you wuld understand this, but your a dumbass so just shut your mouth your arguments are stupid.

@NaBT your signature is you bragging about an FF win against LOAD, I'm not even gonna remotly answer your statement.

@Thyl the dude was trolling, he told me like 20 seconds after we where rofling tht he was trolling, just messig around. You should really learn that the INTERNET isn't always telling the truth ya dumbo!(:

@People being sad cos I bash on people. WELCOME TO THE COMP. SCENE. You think it's all ladida we such each other off? No. GTFO back to your publics and when you get to competitve level you will unerstand that people will still fame eachother out for doing dumbass misstakes, inhouses, mix-scrims and even your own team from time to time. YOu know what you do about it? YOU SUCK IT UP, when you make mistakes you make mistakes, you learn from it and you move on. Now I'm not gonna change the way I cast, my accent, I've already stated that I won't stay on the same subject for too long. Now all in all this message was me saying, I do not care what you guys have to say about me when it comes to casting, unless is constructive. Not something about 5 people have written before.(allbeit not in the same topnotch grammer interwebz users as you guys do makes you look cool!) Anyway what im trying to say;

If you want to make a real effect on HoNcast, go donate money and then you might get your opinion heard. Writing stuff you don't like ; "HIS ACCENT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND", "HE BASHES ON PEOPLE :((((" "I DONT LIKE HIM WHERE IS TOBI" isn't gonna help. TYVM CYA

Guys, I don't know what the **** is going on. But do not donate money to honcast if you want your opinion heard. Believe it or not, breaky and I actually monitor honcast discussions quite closely.

If you want to donate money to honcast (assuming you even can since we are privately funded) do it to improve the quality of our software or to finance my addiction to auto-tune...

zeHenryD
08-10-2010, 04:27 AM
wat ever im just pissed that people are as dumb as they are

Elyriah
08-10-2010, 04:29 AM
Guys, I don't know what the **** is going on. But do not donate money to honcast if you want your opinion heard. Believe it or not, breaky and I actually monitor honcast discussions quite closely.


Happy to hear this. It would be quite so sad if we had to donate money only to get our opinion heard.

Elyriah
08-10-2010, 04:30 AM
wat ever im just pissed that people are as dumb as they are

thank you a lot for your answer to my post, insulting me (and everyone els posting criticism in this thread) and not answering on any of my opinions.

Hippie
08-10-2010, 04:32 AM
@People being sad cos I bash on people. WELCOME TO THE COMP. SCENE. You think it's all ladida we such each other off? No. GTFO back to your publics and when you get to competitve level you will unerstand that people will still fame eachother out for doing dumbass misstakes, inhouses, mix-scrims and even your own team from time to time. YOu know what you do about it? YOU SUCK IT UP, when you make mistakes you make mistakes, you learn from it and you move on. Now I'm not gonna change the way I cast, my accent, I've already stated that I won't stay on the same subject for too long. Now all in all this message was me saying, I do not care what you guys have to say about me when it comes to casting, unless is constructive. Not something about 5 people have written before.(allbeit not in the same topnotch grammer interwebz users as you guys do makes you look cool!) Anyway what im trying to say

This is so true. Trust me when I say not everything is rosy and fantastic at the higher end of gameplay - I've seen too much to the contrary. Some teams are on friendly terms, sure, but most of them see each other as one thing: competition. If the competition gets heated enough, flames can happen just as badly as flames in pubs.

zeHenryD
08-10-2010, 04:34 AM
Your opinion on what I wrote was "...." 4 times. Yeah I'm gonna listen to you. And also FYI, it's my job to tell people what is write and wrong when they are gaming, and why people are doing it what they are thinking etc, the reason that's my job is because that is what honcast was lacking, so actually, you're wrong. I'm not a shoutcaster, I'm an insight, you never hear me doing play-by-play because that isn't my job.

knowitall
08-10-2010, 04:35 AM
This is so true. Trust me when I say not everything is rosy and fantastic at the higher end of gameplay - I've seen too much to the contrary. Some teams are on friendly terms, sure, but most of them see each other as one thing: competition. If the competition gets heated enough, flames can happen just as badly as flames in pubs.

This is the dumbest argument I've ever seen. It's ok for casters to trash-talk players because the players sometimes trash-talk each other?


Your opinion on what I wrote was "...." 4 times. Yeah I'm gonna listen to you. And also FYI, it's my job to tell people what is write and wrong when they are gaming, and why people are doing it what they are thinking etc, the reason that's my job is because that is what honcast was lacking, so actually, you're wrong. I'm not a shoutcaster, I'm an insight, you never hear me doing play-by-play because that isn't my job.

Competitive insight casters are commonly referred to as color casters, so yes, you're still a caster, and yes, you're still held to the same standards.

Devilminion
08-10-2010, 04:35 AM
i didnt find anything offensive in the cast. infact, he explained why they got outpicked which showed time and time again in the fights. But, his responses in this thread just show hoe much of a douche he really is.
yes, some people are idiots who are asking you to switch to an american accent. US isnt the center of the universe.. his accent was perfectly understandable. just seems like he has a HUGE ego =/.

zeHenryD
08-10-2010, 04:40 AM
Everyone that is known in the community have huge egos. If we didn't we would care when they say negative stuff about us. Look at zndr? He had his down fall but he's still up and running and imho a cool guy, same with phil and now its happening to me. I'm just gonna do the mature thing and let it past, thus this being my last post on the thread. Hf writing ur comments.

knowitall
08-10-2010, 04:42 AM
Everyone that is known in the community have huge egos. If we didn't we would care when they say negative stuff about us. Look at zndr? He had his down fall but he's still up and running and imho a cool guy, same with phil and now its happening to me. I'm just gonna do the mature thing and let it past, thus this being my last post on the thread. Hf writing ur comments.

Yeah, saying "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" is really mature.

The_Thrill
08-10-2010, 04:44 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what this thread is going to accomplish to be quite honest. While I can see both sides of the argument, what is going to happen after 50 pages of the same crap being said time and time again? HenryD will continue to cast like he typically does, and if he goes overboard we'd address the issue as a committee. But even breaky and myself are not without our flaws. Henry provides some competitive insight to our casts, something almost everyone asked for, and while he can come off condescending, 90% of the time he's correct in his analysis.

Either way, the issue is one of personal taste. HenryD volunteers his time at honcast, and we appreciate that.

Benjy
08-10-2010, 04:47 AM
HenryD does what he's supposed to do. He entertains the majority of the non-prepubescent non-"OH I CRY BECAUSE HE WAS MEAN TO MY #1 EFREND BREAKY :(((((" population.

I don't even know why he bothers reading this ***** thread. He's doing a good job. If you feel offended by him... don't, it was a joke.

Even if he is swedish.

Devilminion
08-10-2010, 04:48 AM
henryD addition to honcast is the best thing that could happen. I look forward to any casts with him now.
his responses to this thread are what sorta surprised me. Some people will dislike stuff that others like.. instead of saying hmm may be i will try a bit harder to be clearer (in accent) or yea i apologized for that stuff and will be more careful in future his most responses have been go **** yourself.
not something i would want to say in public threads when you want more viewers.

ROMA
08-10-2010, 05:19 AM
Honcasts suck anyway.. go download the replay so you can actually follow the action instead of having to watch what the retard camera man is looking at

Athildur
08-10-2010, 06:13 AM
Stop expecting HenryD to become 'mature' and 'professional' overnight. Meaning no offense, this guy's not in his 20s yet and he wasn't asked to join the honcast staff as a 'professional caster' such as breaky, but as a 'competitive insight' source.

This invariably means that his opinion is EXACTLY what he's there to give. Nothing more, nothing less. Because it's the opinion from someone who knows the competitive scene better because he's been there, is in there, and will be in there for a while.

You complain he bashes too much, but he casts from a personal perspective. Most of the time, I think his opinions are rooted in a perspective as if he was part of that team. That is to say, HenryD reacts more or less the same on the cast as he would if he were teamed up with the guy in-game, in a tournament. Now, perhaps these pros don't bash that much themselves in-game. But don't think for a second they're not thinking it. They just don't have time for it because they need to focus.

It's ridiculous that there are a lot of people here who presume to know better, while having no experience within the competitive scene. He said he went overboard, and he's trying not to go there much more. What else can you ask?

If you can't understand his accent, tough ****. The reason a scot can change his accent is because the scottish learn proper english from school and (presumably) radio and tv. When you're so close to that form of english naturally, you can't change your accent just like that. Not everyone can be american. Suck it up. (And no, I am completely certain that if you can't understand him now, you can't understand him using a 'clear' english accent. Because it wouldn't change much.)

This thread has really proven to me that there are plenty of dickwads in the community. You don't like his bashing? You're a hypocritical scumbag, because all I see in this thread are people whining and *****ing and bashing(!) on HenryD for casting the way he does. (Supportive or actually insightful posts exempted, of course)

The Honcast staff has as much as acknowledged Henry fills a niche they needed someone for, and as they say, if Henry goes overboard, they will deal with it.

I'm 100% sure Henry listens to criticism. The game directly after that tournament match where Henry was casting he was less confident in his casting (as far as I could hear, sorry if I make a false assumption). I presume because of all the flames and comments he got on his insight for that armadon match.

What some of you people need to realise is that you're dealing with PEOPLE. You're an unmannered and arrogant piece of **** if you think you can waltz in here, flame some more about someone who probably casts a hundred times better than you ever could, and think you're right to do it. Yes, this is the internet. Yes, you're anonymous behind your nick. Try growing up yourself and becoming a half-decent human being and posting something constructive and civilised. I guarantee you it has a much higher chance of actually being heard.

And yes, I know some of you made valid comments and tried to be constructive. I'm obviously not talking to you. I thank you for your manners, heaven knows they're far and wide between on the internet.

You've put yet another dent in my faith that the hon community is actually filled with decent people. Bravo, guys. Bravo.

Im_Awesome
08-10-2010, 07:37 AM
I think this thread stopped having an validity about 6 pages ago and just turned into a flame thread. It's entertaining of course, but some of us seemed to attack just for the sake of attacking HenryD. And honestly if I had people say things like I read about me I may have responded the same way to some of the posts if not worse. I've had epic rages with some of the HoN community. Some of these posts are far, far more offensive than any I heard in the HoNcast in question.

I am not a HenryD fan boy as I barely even know who he is and have yet to have pleasure of playing in game with him, but there is a way to speak with people that is receptive towards conversation and very few of us posted in this fashion. And I believe some that were properly worded were overlooked because of ignorant posts that littered this thread. If I had to read all the garbage in this thread written about me I think I would stop caring about civility or learning to grow from these suggestions. We had an amazing opportunity to give insightful user based suggestions on how to improve a shoutcast of a game we all seem to love that showcases some of the best of us playing HoN, and we ruined it by speaking mostly garbage. Those that polluted this thread know who they are, and those that didn't I feel know they didn't too.

In response to an earlier post unlike him I have not had my faith in the HoN community dented but I am deeply disappointed we could not have done better. Many of our HoNcasters actually took the time to read this thread and respond to it. How many announcers have you seen that care that much outside of esports? This experience while entertaining reminds me of something I learned while traveling around the world, that no matter where I am I will always find cool people and I will always find losers.

Henry I said it before and I will repeat it again. After listening to the HoNcast in question I can say it was not the most professional but it was far, far from as bad as people made it out to be, and honestly not that bad at all. I still think more focus should have been put on educating the viewers on how to effectively counter such a heal strategy as it was obvious the game was over, and you shouldn't have repeated the same points so many times, but what you said was 100% correct. And damnit if Breaky is wrong I expect you or the other announcers will correct him, and I applaud you for doing so in this case. Just because you received a lot of negative comments because of this and how you responded, doesn't mean all of us are like this. It's the same as anything, most vocal people just like to complain, and the majority stay silent because they don't have anything to say because they either don't care of just don't think there is a problem. We can all improve in areas and hopefully you filter out the crap in this thread and distilled the useful insights and grow as an announcer for our community. I appreciate your time announcing the same as I appreciate all the HoNcast crew's time and effort. And I especially appreciate that the HoNcast crew cares enough to read our opinions, respond and converse with us. Hopefully the HoNcast crew will continue to be so open to viewers in the future, even if we don't donate :D

Entertaining thread but really this just seems to be a flame thread now.

DwightHoward
08-10-2010, 07:43 AM
I'd love to play HenryD in Texas Hold'em, he gets 'tilted' way to eaisly it seems. Rule number one of the internet is DON'T RESPOND TO TROLLS. Basically anyone saying you should change your accent is a troll, and should be ignored. Replying to constructive criticism, that actually adds something to better your casting is fine, even a good thing, but at the end of the day, there's no need to get stuck in, like you say, just shake it off and move on.

Replying to useless troll postings just makes the issue worse, you appear desperate, and it further fuels the trolls. This is what I have learned from writing strategy articles for a popular Warcraft 3 site for two years, when WC3 was in its prime.

If my opinion means anything, I have been listening to every HON CAST for the last month and half in order to improve my own HON skills, and I for one enjoy what you add Henry, as well as Breaky and Hippie and whoever else is there, you guys all bring something different to the cast and make it exciting, fresh etc. Everyone has their bad days (as did I have my bad articles) Just don't let anyone get to you if you know you're doing a good job. Keep up the Great casting guys.

Just my 2cents.

Im_Awesome
08-10-2010, 08:13 AM
Honcasts suck anyway.. go download the replay so you can actually follow the action instead of having to watch what the retard camera man is looking at

I obviously disagree that HoNcast sucks, but this reminds me of a suggestion I had earlier for HoNcast. You could easily improve HoNcast by working with S2 to match replays with an audio stream. This way we could enjoy the stream while watching the replay in game. Sometimes I really want to use my mouse to see something the camera isn't showing, but if I just watch the replay I miss listening to your Shoutcast. So why not the best of both worlds? I realize I could have the stream playing in the background while watching the replay if I time it right, but why not work with S2 to stream audio into our replays?

Chackle
08-10-2010, 08:37 AM
why not start the audio of the video at the same time as the replay?

Bit of a round about way but you can still achieve this already

kattkiss
08-10-2010, 08:40 AM
I obviously disagree that HoNcast sucks, but this reminds me of a suggestion I had earlier for HoNcast. You could easily improve HoNcast by working with S2 to match replays with an audio stream. This way we could enjoy the stream while watching the replay in game. Sometimes I really want to use my mouse to see something the camera isn't showing, but if I just watch the replay I miss listening to your Shoutcast. So why not the best of both worlds? I realize I could have the stream playing in the background while watching the replay if I time it right, but why not work with S2 to stream audio into our replays?
Why not turn on the stream in the background and sync it to ur own replay?

RogerDodger
08-10-2010, 09:02 AM
Why not turn on the stream in the background and sync it to ur own replay?
Audio files would use a lot less bandwidth saving HCT a lot of $$ in server expenses.

Subcombo
08-10-2010, 10:41 AM
They could set up an audio stream of their casting and a link to the replay being casted as an additional option. I'm sure others would appreciate that and i know i would like to utilise this addition from time to time if it was implemented. This of course using less bandwidth than video streaming just for the audio.

Cyber_Kun
08-10-2010, 11:00 AM
I thought the entire 4 healers build with Armadon was funny. It sounded like HenryD was having a mental breakdown due to how wrong the Armadon pick was.

To anyone who whines about accent. It is understandable to ask for him to notice his accent in cast, but the fact is that it isn't that noticeable. Maybe if you have only heard one dialect your entire life, but he is understandable.

To HenryD. Not only do people troll, they can be ignorant and stupid. Just figure out who is worth talking to and responding too. You fed the trolls way to much with the 227 post. (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=12254411&postcount=227)

TurkishGold
08-10-2010, 11:13 AM
If you want to make a real effect on HoNcast, go donate money and then you might get your opinion heard.


lol.

Samich
08-10-2010, 11:26 AM
Dear Journal, HenryD contradicted me in a honcast today, i just wanted to die. I can't believe he's humiliated me like this, everybody laughed at me and breaky said "yeah thats definatly a good point". HOW COULD HE? we were friends.. Im never going to talk to any of them ever ever again

benkofk
08-10-2010, 11:45 AM
it's so awkward when he tells a joke then everyones like "..." then he mutters to himself and breaky like the cool mother****ing **** he is like "right..."

Shaunnn
08-10-2010, 11:54 AM
hippie takes it up the ass from henry on every cast and doesnt even tell him to stfu in the thread wow

JeremyKyle
08-10-2010, 12:03 PM
This is the dumbest argument I've ever seen. It's ok for casters to trash-talk players because the players sometimes trash-talk each other?



Competitive insight casters are commonly referred to as color casters, so yes, you're still a caster, and yes, you're still held to the same standards.

You're associated with cheaters, therefore your argument is invalid. Please S-T-F-U because nobody wants to read your posts. Cool?

Reuk
08-10-2010, 12:09 PM
Its quite simple, just compare the casts when you have HenryD and the casts when you have Freshpro, both provide the ****ing competitive insight, both point out mistakes both have their own coments and opinions, but Freshpro is not a ****ing ******* about it, and he doesnt diminish anyone (players/co-casters) when he does it.
Not saying you should replace HenryD for Freshpro, just saying its not about what he says, its about HOW he says it.

Greasygreabo
08-10-2010, 12:33 PM
Im confuzzled mainly about the accent conundrum.

You all realise that is clear english.

Maybe he should change it to scouse and we will see how much you understand.

If the caster thinks the guys made a shocking play or item choice he is entitled to point it out and rag on it - its exactly what you get in normal sports casting and I expect no less here.

rayven
08-10-2010, 12:38 PM
HenryD is god. Enough said.
/thread