1.0.8 patch Notes

[Powerpuffman]

agreed, he just needs to pull them fukkers in
lol'd

[Vor]

Incoming hotfix to 5/10 concede vote ending any losing game, turning it into 7/10.
Incoming hotfix to 4/3 pausing vote to a 3/3.

[JilaX]

Nerfing Geometers?
Brilliant, it was op.

Nerfing the heroes that were considered "OP" because of Geometers without seeing how the nerf to Geos plays out first?
Lol wat.

Same goes for overnerfing Rampage.
Do you suddenly want him to be trash again?

[Emeri]

Nymphora is balanced now, if not underpowered. I hope S2 Ignores all the emo butthurt threads by kids who got stunned for 4 seconds and therefore want nymph to be unplayed again.

[Backpack]

So dissagreeing on the remake change. Played a game few mins ago, when they realized we outfarmed them, they just remakd. Such bullshit, sorry.
So 2 people on your team agreed to remake because they were winning?

Or someone on the other team noticed they had bad farm only 2 minutes in and left getting a leave on their stats and their team managed to wait 5 minutes for them to drop and then they remade it?

[fatfomo]

whats up with the "votes". only need 5 votes to rmk ?.... if a team dont get the the start that the wanted, they can votermk.... ? plz fix this ****

[Smeggles]

So 2 people on your team agreed to remake because they were winning?

Or someone on the other team noticed they had bad farm only 2 minutes in and left getting a leave on their stats and their team managed to wait 5 minutes for them to drop and then they remade it?

Read what everyone is saying, it's SUPPOSED to take 7 to remake, it is CURRENTLY only taking 5

[La`Celeste]

share,, I mean vindi and devo buff yay :>>

[Atrim3ntus]

Great patch again, It was very fast :D, I hope this finally shuts people off.

[policymaker]

gz for fast fixes

[Atranox]

Remake threshold bumped back to 70%, unless someone has been terminated, in which case it's 50%

What would happen in this instance? A player drops from Legion, thus creating a 4v5. Legion gets first blood followed by a couple more kills. Since it only requires 50% when someone gets terminated, what would prevent Hellborne from simply remaking with a 5/9 vote?

[own_age]

wats wrong with that^

u rather play 4v5?

[Atranox]

wats wrong with that^

u rather play 4v5?

If team of 4 gets first blood and the first few kills, then they have an upper hand. It's a lot easier to gain a significant level advantage in that situation. If a team is winning, why should the other team be able to remake the game? One team should not be able to remake the game in any situation.

[Johny_Hubert]

1.0.8 Ftw! :)
Still cant update to .7 >_>

[own_age]

I dont see why you'd get fussed about ppl giving you a way out. 4v5 will always be an uphill battle no matter if you get 5-0

[Atranox]

I dont see why you'd get fussed about ppl giving you a way out. 4v5 will always be an uphill battle no matter if you get 5-0

I've won (and lost) plenty of 4v5's. Either way, the bottom line is that no single team should be able to remake the game by themselves.

[Slut]

<KaliKot> arachna was getting picked every game cause he's balanced

[gambler]

40 minutes have passed already, where's the patch?

[pakoito]

4v5 would be balanced if tower money and another rewards were split between 4 instead of the standard 5; as it happens in DOTA.

[Johny_Hubert]

40 minutes have passed already, where's the patch?

^answer him plz

[CPLnerd]

:nigh:I love the Nighthound buff, hes one of my favorite characters.:nigh:

[Johny_Hubert]

50 min :)
not waiting anymore

[Atranox]

50 min :)
not waiting anymore

Patch is live.

[Thypari]

there he is

[Raptor_Jesus]

Guys, I love to be this guy...
You named the hotfix patch for 1.0.7 -> 1.0.8?

This is my prediction. You will hit 1.0.9 by accident with your arbitrary pathc numbering system, and out of fear of going to 1.1 (which I would hope is reserved for a major patch) we will see versions 1.0.9.x.x.x.x.x.x.x forever.

[sillent]

Umm I patched but everytime game loads it asks to patch again and this thing keeps on looping..

[gambler]

Hon Modman could not verify the version number...

[Johny_Hubert]

Yaay! Crash!!
Im crashing since 1.0.6 --'

[ilikepotatos]

Played 2 games of 1.07 and you cant ****ing kick an afker in matchmaking so you cant get any extra gold for being 4/5 and you cant concede and it is really really stupid I know you are overhauling mm but don't make it any worse before you make it better...

[Sancti]

oooooh, no more

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5930/2cpf5lj.jpg
anyway new patch, yay!

[JoOKie]

Anyone else experiencing lower FPS?

[Ganondorf]

Anyone else experiencing lower FPS?

Yes, it's almost unplayable for me now.

Was fine in 1.0.7. Now, it isn't. What the ****?

I was gonna make a thread about it if I didn't see anyone else complain.

[Slut]

Guys, I love to be this guy...
You named the hotfix patch for 1.0.7 -> 1.0.8?

This is my prediction. You will hit 1.0.9 by accident with your arbitrary pathc numbering system, and out of fear of going to 1.1 (which I would hope is reserved for a major patch) we will see versions 1.0.9.x.x.x.x.x.x.x forever.
Actually TEAM matchmaking and map editor is soon done so they'll have that at 1.1

[JoOKie]

I get 60 less FPS. It's like I'm in a constant 3v3 teamfight.

[Shen]

Bad bad bad bad patch :|

You broke our FPS.

[gnortsevil]

hmm wtf terrible patch fix the lag...

[TheWarrent]

I just replied to someone saying "Patch make lag" but I guess I was WRONG. FPS Issues need to be worked on.

Also, That early zeal damage gave Nymph a good mid presence. I was ok with 70 -> 60 but 55 seems a bit low for more of a early game presence.

[RedWrath5]

Gladiator
- Fix the timing on his Pitfall delay correctly.

WOOOOHOOOOO

Forums:1
S2 Staff: Everything else

[Hemothorax]

You forgot to add that the patch made it laggy. That needs to go into the patch notes.

[onaprayer]

patch causing issues with modmanager not detecting the version.
and yes i was wondering why my fps went to hell.

[HellishINC]

Live within 30 minutes.

Version 1.0.8
-------------
- Improved engine. Everyone should get a nice 100% fps hit.


^fixed.

[Cord]

Yeah. I just joined several games all of which had a low ping (like 50-100) and my FPS was about 2.

[DwightHoward]

Patch 1.0.8

-Dropped FPS 20-80% lower to accommodate game engine requirements for Dr.

[JeDaH]

How does fixing the vote problem do all of this....

i dont understand

[monsterr]

Actually TEAM matchmaking and map editor is soon done so they'll have that at 1.1

they have been saying it will come out "soon" since july of last year.

both those things were promised at retail, and that was in may.

my guess is we won't see either of those for another 2+ months.

[sidestepking]

THE games are way TOO laggy!!!

[miley__cyrus]

still no map editor fail more

[`Tape]

quick release 1.0.9! hahaha this sux just rollback for now 1.0.6 lol

[Jonkimble]

Pretty much unplayable. Back to SC2!

[Punishment]

lol mean patch

[Turdburglar]

quick release 1.0.9! hahaha this sux just rollback for now 1.0.6 lol

We're gonna be up to Patch 1.82 by the end of the week...

[DrFappo]

Ever since S2 patched up my gaming enjoyment has dropped to nil.

[edkk]

get 1.0.7 back till fix 1.0.8

[Azur_]

Fix fps problem please


Ever since S2 patched up my gaming enjoyment has dropped to nil.

word!!

[`SunTzu]

yea.. it would seem everyone is lagging with this patch.

i'd be cool if someone from S2 could give us an ETA of the next hotfix to fix this lag, making HoN unplayable...

[allbusiness]

1. Shitty knee jerk reaction nerfs
2. Bad lag


I'm starting to lose faith S2.

[buffownz]

S2 WTF ?!?!?!? I'm working hard on get PSR, then you launch this ****ed up patch and I lose psr, last match I got 5 fps, I was playing with engi and missed every single keg... I really want my psr back, how can I call to cancel this match from my game history ?

[nixonwas]

what the hell s2

[KhainStakard]

Guess you still think they will stop their work to fix to hear your qq here. Seriously guys, turn the game off, your life wont end if you do so, wait for the fix.

[Vezuvius]

Hard Lag . =/

[superboyy]

guy calm down

its part of S2 policy: make the game competitive for every player. limited cam distance for people with small screens. latest patch just adds the max fps limit of 15, so people with weak computers can play under the same conditions as the rest.

leveling the playing field and so forth...

[Prelektro]

they should add this to changelog :

hon:
fps is greatly reduced

[jizzedon]

lol haha at prelektro good one wow.... so much for an update :)

[Knight`]

i dont get it, 1.0.7 was fine !! i didnt see any issue with 1.0.7 on my pc, now you try to fix something for the low pc gameboy bobs and now you ruin it for us all GJ s2

[Sandzu]

Now was it worth it? S2 should have waited 1 more day to test the patch and then release it...Oeh...what a noob company

[buckeT]

Lo ppl,

firstly I wanna point out, that I haven't any troubles with fps, but all "pro" have problems and "lose PSR" cause of this issue ... << xD pls stop this, otherwise I can't stop laughing :D


Now my question: S2, you really have a strange version appointment :-)
If I take a look at the 1.0.8 notes, they surely don't be allowed to be a new subrelease :-\ ... it's more like 1.0.71 or 1.0.7.1


Greetings,
buckeT

[dr_basemoan]

WAU what the what is up with this choppy BS. this couldnt possibly be some way to level the playing field by making every1's frame rate equal to that of the shittiest computer in the game. cos that would be about the dumbest idea ever thought of in a multiplayer game...

so i can only assume this is a retarded attempt at trying to mitigate the effects of lag.

either way: FAIL.

[Scopey]

Why wasn't this 1.0.7.1? It was pretty much just a hotfix...

[Ximili]

Wtf, how do you **** this up so bad?

My 1.0.8 experience is this. Updated yesterday, loaded it today...new patch again! Okay whatev, dl it...game crashes. Fine, restart game...immediate k2. Not even an attempt to load. Doubleclick the shortcut, and immediately crashes.

From what I can assess, the first response from an admin would be "What are your comp specs, networking, etc?" Seriously dude, if it worked fine yesterday, and the only change today was a new patch, it's not our ****ing computers. (Assuming they ever make a comment on this matter).

Just for shits and giggles, my computer specs are the following. 2100mhz(overclocked) AMD Athlon XP
512mb DDR2
Radeon9800
Windows2k (changed to XP 2 days ago, same diff)

That's right folks. The game runs on that. Apparently I ruined it for everyone by playing underspec'd, so now we all must be banished from HoN.

[yuks]

Very low fps...

[BluesSteenV2]

lol at least S2 knows they have all you guys wrung around the neck. A **** load of HoN starving ppl wanting to play so bad they have to vent the rage and anger they have welted inside them on these forums.

This is indirectly you telling S2 HOW BADLY YOU NEEEEED THEM.

[GG`]

Haha it's funny that you guys think that *****ing at them will get a faster fix.

[FDY]

Devourer
- Cadaver Armor strength gain lowered to 1.5 from 2
- Cadaver Armor Magic Armor back to 1,2,3,4

whywhywhy??

[GyL]

i have upgraded the patch and now i cant start the game cose it is crashing when i star it every time ... i even have uninstall and install the hon again i upgraded the patch again and still crash ... it is a hon problem or what ... pls help me out ...

[Phase1Skeith]

Thanks for the fast fix. :)

[unska]

Actually TEAM matchmaking and map editor is soon done so they'll have that at 1.1
Sorry to disappoint all of you "1.1" -people but after 1.0.9 comes 1.0.10.

[Gowerly]

Sad to see devourer nerf. If it's 1.5 at all levels, give us +str from creep kills agian. Thanks.

[Penance]

Sorry to disappoint all of you "1.1" -people but after 1.0.9 comes 1.0.10.

Bad troll or failed 7th grade intro to mathematics.





2.0 Strength was a bit much. You can keep it at level 1 and upgrade Hook anyways for extra burst damage to get kills. Fine as it is.

[makaton]

Well done as usual lads!

Fast fix!

[Shikoba]

stop complaining...

S2 does a great job. better than blizzard does.

imo S2 cares much more about gameplay and satisfied customers than any other company.

make it better than S2 or shut up and stop whining

[g1real]

Bad troll or failed 7th grade intro to mathematics.





2.0 Strength was a bit much. You can keep it at level 1 and upgrade Hook anyways for extra burst damage to get kills. Fine as it is.

The irony on how you think mathematics apply to program/game versions.

2/10

[DemoniWaari]

Damn devo nerf. Oh well it's not that bad.

[`7anz]

It took you a couple of hours to break the game and now it takes ages to fix that mistake again? Rollback if neccessary but this is unplayable lol.

[Sonecarox]

Aother no goblin hero... nice =[

[Knovocaine]

Bad troll or failed 7th grade intro to mathematics.





2.0 Strength was a bit much. You can keep it at level 1 and upgrade Hook anyways for extra burst damage to get kills. Fine as it is.
Math? What does math have to do with a version number? It is not a normal number! Do you not realize there are two (2) decimal places in the version number? What? Two? What is this, I don't even!

Woah, woah waoh... Novocaine. Are you telling me that you don't count a version number on software like you count eggs in a basket? Or even pennies in a piggy bank? But, but, but, this changes my whole outlook on life. SO, there are 60 minutes in 1 hour and not ten? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Hang on. Ten quarters is still one dollar, correct? Phew! Worried there for a second!



Also, this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0) :arma:

[schote]

s2 delivers

[CSDragon]

I agree with iNovocaine. Back when I was doing map editing in Warcraft, going into a version 1.3.12 was perfectly normal. We didn't bump it up to 1.4.2. Each space stood for something. The first number meant map (going up = totally new map). The seccond was updates (new heroes etc) and the 3rd was fixes. I don't know what s2's scheme is but it's probably similar. Going 1.1.0.0 will be something big, and they aren't gonna run outa numbers before then even if they go to 1.0.999.0


Also: Would people shut up about the frame rate? It wasn't on purpose, and they fixed it.

[xRAVICLESx]

Just woke up havent played since the laggy bad fps ****, so to save me running through 400 pages is this fixed yet?

[KMurderer]

No vote-kick? Wtf? So if someone start feeding i just need to accept? And be happy? This sucks.. Thats all i can say!

[Deluxe88]

Can someone explain please what does this mean?

- Added a green "no help" button to the left of the teammate portraits that will toggle their ability to use certain abilities on your units:
* :andr: Andromeda - Void Rip
* :bloo: Blood Hunter - Blood Crazy
* :nymp: Nymphora - Teleport
* :glac: Glacius - Ice Imprisonment
* :ophe: Ophelia - Ophelia's Judgement
* :temp: Tempest - Elemental
* :succ: Succubus - Mesmerize
* :pebb: Pebbles - Chuck
* :glad: Gladiator - Showdown
* Item - :Stormspirit: Stormspirit

[Knovocaine]

Can someone explain please what does this mean?

- Added a green "no help" button to the left of the teammate portraits that will toggle their ability to use certain abilities on your units:
* :andr: Andromeda - Void Rip
* :bloo: Blood Hunter - Blood Crazy
* :nymp: Nymphora - Teleport
* :glac: Glacius - Ice Imprisonment
* :ophe: Ophelia - Ophelia's Judgement
* :temp: Tempest - Elemental
* :succ: Succubus - Mesmerize
* :pebb: Pebbles - Chuck
* :glad: Gladiator - Showdown
* Item - :Stormspirit: Stormspirit
It prevents griefing. Like if you have a pebbles on your team you can turn it off and make it so that he can't just throw you at the enemies to your death. Same goes with the others.

[BioHazardd]

This new patch ruined hon in my eyes, you can't even kick a player? What the **** honestly...There's no point in playing Public games because all people do is feed. I just had a game where a team mate went 1-15, wheres the ****ing kick button?!

[pakoito]

This new patch ruined hon in my eyes, you can't even kick a player? What the **** honestly...There's no point in playing Public games because all people do is feed. I just had a game where a team mate went 1-15, wheres the ****ing kick button?!
Maybe they're not intentiopnally feeding but just bad. And they're in your games so you must be pretty bad too.

That's what happens to me, I'm a 1500 player and I get along with the other 1500. Retarded, carryacursed-ing and stuff...but whatever.

[dr_basemoan]

It prevents griefing. Like if you have a pebbles on your team you can turn it off and make it so that he can't just throw you at the enemies to your death. Same goes with the others.

yea but thats bs since there might be someone who chooses at start of game to never be thrown.
flips the switch.
and then your chasing an enemy almost dead. pebs and teammate. winning chuck wud make kill. but kill not possible. lame? yes.

[Dawnbringer]

Its ridiculous, you can't kick a feeder now -.- please reimplement old kick system but with a team vote required only -.-

[Shen]

Version 1.0.7
-------------
In-game

- Removed general kick vote

Reason I am quitting.

[Crypto]

Reason I am quitting.
damn, you made a thread about it and now you're posting it here, you're really seeking for attention. It's quite pathetic.

[Shen]

Quit trolling. It's simply giving feedback in the actual thread.

[Alhanalem]

In my experience kicking was really rare because people on both teams need to agree to kick. Now, you can only kick AFKers, but you don't need a game-wide vote to do it.

The only times ive ever wanted to kick anyone is in matchmaking, and you already couldn't do it there anyway.

[Crypto]

Quit trolling. It's simply giving feedback in the actual thread.
being honest and saying the truth = trolling now.

[Probyme]

I see big problem. In last my game, yellow left at 12min 50 sec ( like it ) and no one in my team cant use concede button in later game. Its so stupid... pls make normal votes and kicks :/

...my eng bad sry...

[Dart]

Don't see why you guys are complaining about lag, I haven't experienced any since the patch. I did however have lag 2 patches ago but a fresh install of the game seemed to fix that for me. Perhaps you guys should give that a try.

Repulsor or whatever his name is seems a bit OP to me though. His ultimate needs a CD or something, he gets away from being killed far to easily. It is basically a port key with no CD with a high mana cost. Late game he is practically invincible, because his mana pool is so high by then you pretty much need a team full of stunners or alot of disable to take him down.

[The_Eye]

Reason I am quitting.

Like the other team would you let you kick the feeder. I'm glad it was removed; team only would lead to miscommunications, and requiring the other team to consent is all the same. It couldn't be balanced.

[BlizzStaff]

Reason I am quitting.

Yup i 2nd this, this is seriously the worst thing ever! JUST played a game with a kid who had no idea what he was doing and ruined it for the entire team.

[slayz666]

Yup i 2nd this, this is seriously the worst thing ever! JUST played a game with a kid who had no idea what he was doing and ruined it for the entire team.

So, game I just played went down like this :
Dude picks :doct: solos bot cause :wild: is jungling, feeds :dead: and leaves, I would say less than 10 minutes into the game...we still won, but god damn it was it frustrating...

Not having the kicking option is ****ing horrible...please reconsider adding the button.

It was fine the way it always was IMO...

[RGedda]

356th!

[Knovocaine]

yea but thats bs since there might be someone who chooses at start of game to never be thrown.
flips the switch.
and then your chasing an enemy almost dead. pebs and teammate. winning chuck wud make kill. but kill not possible. lame? yes.
Sure, it is lame in most cases, but in pubs it is nice to have the option. I was playing :phar: a few days ago and did my ult/mummy/hellfire combo onto an enemy :andr: who promptly swapped out with her :arac: teammate. I promptly killed :arac: and she ragequit.

My advice? Test the waters with some conversation during the laning phase, if anyone on you team seems stupid, or just a doucher, turn it off for them.

[iStudying]

Fix The concede button.

[____`_`____]

map editor!!!!!!

[merendero]

Fix The concede button.

Yeah, concede still ends the game and does not get the players back to the lobby like it was before...

[Bobble]

Finally, we have a reference to SPACE BALLS!

[lecrash]

Come on, who do I have to talk to get my little nomes award? (I think it's the nomes you get for getting something implemented in the game :P)


Nice patch!! Also, I want my little award for the AFK vote kick.


That's why I fixed it with a vote kick. Your team decides if your items are more useful than waiting on you. After the 4/5 mins (which ever they decide) threshold a unanimous vote kick (on your team) would kick you. This is not abusable since you can not vote kick a team mate if they do not go afk. Also, this kick should be used ANYTIME after the threshold has passed. Something as /votekick (vk) (1-10) numbers being colors...




Version 1.0.7
-------------
In-game

- Players who are marked as AFK are no longer auto-kicked, but instead can be vote-kicked via a team-only vote






<---- And why is my shield gone? =(

[joakiti]

am i the only person that cannot use the "test" tab in practice mode?

[merendero]

am i the only person that cannot use the "test" tab in practice mode?

Press the "Menu" button (F10), return to the game and the test button will available

[Deadwood]

The new heroes are imba. I don?t understand them completely but they are bugged in any case, the items also. The new skills stink and there are overall not enough changes. All buffs and nerfs making me crazy. The cosmetic adjustments are gay, the new mode stinks. My favorite heroes were still not buffed and Rampage is still overpowered. S2 sucks and we all should continue to play the old version.

[pinoy_lol]

why i cant hear imbalance sounds? no hero reactions or in the middle of the game the music is off. i checked all the settings and they are all fine

[Skelus]

Tundra still needs a story.

[Tw1sted]

Sorry but the latest patch to come out has a few new additions that really get under my skin
1. No more kick system...
a.) its bad enough when u have a feeder but now u cant kick them and they can do more dmg.
b.) someone goes afk and u need to kick them so u dont suffer for the 5min of him standing in the well
2. AFK players no longer get auto dc'd after a set amount of time, the get left in the damn well to be killed, while the rest of his team (gets no money bonus, doesnt get his items, and has to death with a player sitting in well and a big AFK sign over his HUD face.)
3. So now you have AFK players in game all game, no leaver percentage, no kick system, and the first really screwed up patch since the lagasaourus patch back in beta. I might as well get two accounts send one on the other team pick :warb: or :chro: and afk him the entire game. Easy PSR.
GOD SPEED S2 Please fix this or at least explain the process for team vote to kick AFK

[Losix]

"Players attempting to spam game servers with courier sharing messages will now have their sharing messages blocked and subsequent requests they send will be ignored. Waiting a few seconds before sending another share request will eventually remove this block."

Will that also block you from trying to write?
Cause in a game I bought courier shared it with 4 and on fifth I was to hasty and shared controll of my hero aswell, so I click it again after that I couldnt share courier with him anymore or write anything in chat...

If thats the case, maybe up the flood limit...

[Laurence]

Didn't notice the 'no kick vote' until my last game, when a stubborn DL held up the game for an unnecessary, painful and unfun 25 minutes.

What the efff.

Not playing again 'til this is changed.

[DongoX]

Im having a problem, i?ve downloaded the 1.0.8.2 path and when im runing hon it crashes on the middle of a game, i wanna know how to fix this... thx

[Zetone]

Why did you remove the kick? It is unbelievable, now we cannot kick the game ruiner. Even more there is no "General" case in options for abuse report. For example one person farm all the game but was intentionally afk in ALL fights!!!!! And we either cannot kick him or report? WTF!!!

Also you should fix new imba engineer turret and nymphora stun.

[Zetone]

In additional match making system is sucks! You could wait 10 minutes for "Looking players" and it will stuck for some reason. What is wrong with it? Is it so hard to make match making system to work properly? Look for some good programmers if your current ones can't do their job good.

[Zetone]

I have more. HON client crashes in daily basis. Win XP SP3, this is not problem on my side only.

[Fajitas]

:blac:Long time user, first time poster.

Vote kick system is broken in the most rage-worthy way.

No, old friend, waiting for the enemy to push is not an option if they all want 3 doom bringers before finishing the game.:blac:

[Forte]

stop nerfing madman please D:

[Flow]

stop nerfing madman please D:

so you're the guy that preordered with the name I wanted in beta. :X