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[DenyTheTruth]

Ask a Question

Purpose
Hundreds of questions are asked in the Training Grounds every day, most of them one-answer questions. The purpose of this thread is to help clean up the forums while providing an easy means with which to obtain answers.


Rules
Question must be related to Heroes of Newerth
Question must be appropriate and follow all normal forum rules.
When answering, please quote the person you answered.
Try to keep conversations to a minimum. If it's something that has discussion value it's best to open up a thread. AAQ should be primarily for questions that have set answers or at least answers that won't change until a new patch is released.

[Lezrach]

Is DenyTheTruth really the most awesome moderator on this forum?

Also:
Play stats / nostats with bad internet connection, and why?

[DenyTheTruth]

Is DenyTheTruth really the most awesome moderator on this forum?

Also:
Play stats / nostats with bad internet connection, and why?

Yes. Five awards prove it.

no stats, if you DC you won't get a leave.

[MrSmith]

Is Pestis ult purgeable by :NullfireBlade: ?

[Undutchable]

Why are commonly asked questions not taken into a big FAQ?

You're making a topic which will be spammed and only usefull if you spam in yourself.

Questions like Engineer ult vs magic immune, purge effects, nullstone effects, when the map editor comes up... and so on.

I'm not some kind of veteran on this forum, and i'm fed up with those questions already.

Yes i know, there are alot of topics saying those things, but since people fail to recognise the search function, might as well clean up the forum and create a big-ass topic full of in-depth knowledge.

Yes, this will be time consuming, yes it will be worth it...

PS: no i'm not going to do it ^^

[MichaelBurge]

Yes. Five awards prove it.

I dispute this. The golden shield isn't a real award so it doesn't count; and since you lied("denied the truth") you're an immoral person who cannot be considered a great leader for all of the noobs in the forum.


Is Pestis ult purgeable by :NullfireBlade:?

Yes. And by several heroes as well.

[DenyTheTruth]

Why are commonly asked questions not taken into a big FAQ?

...

Yes, this will be time consuming...

PS: no i'm not going to do it ^^

This is why. The last thread had 1500 posts in it.

We're going to try, with this one, to keep it more clean and push stuff into a FAQ.

[MCfrontalot]

Why is geometers bane:GeometersBane: most used on arachna:arac:, it seems like that is the only hero it is a "must" on, y not on :corr::pyro::chip:...

How do you get charges on nullfire:NullfireBlade: or do you only get 8 and thats it?

How is a nullstone:Nullstone: used, never bought one and i am confused by description, do you get to negate someone from using a certain spell?

[MrSmith]

Why is geometers bane:GeometersBane: most used on arachna:arac:, it seems like that is the only hero it is a "must" on, y not on :corr::pyro::chip:...

How do you get charges on nullfire:NullfireBlade: or do you only get 8 and thats it?

How is a nullstone:Nullstone: used, never bought one and i am confused by description, do you get to negate someone from using a certain spell?

1. I don't really know, it's just a perfect viable item for arachna. But also very decent on Corrupted, FA and so on. Just a good mid game DPS item. With survivability, atk speed and damage furthermore its a portable illusion Rune and it purges

2. You get new charges by purchasing the Recipe again.

3. It negates, "eats" a single, targeted spell. For example Andromedas Stun, but not AoE spells like FA's stun

[BloodyJester]

Why is geometers bane:GeometersBane: most used on arachna:arac:, it seems like that is the only hero it is a "must" on, y not on :corr::pyro::chip:...

How do you get charges on nullfire:NullfireBlade: or do you only get 8 and thats it?

How is a nullstone:Nullstone: used, never bought one and i am confused by description, do you get to negate someone from using a certain spell?

U can get 8 more buying recipe one more time
, but only one time u get more agi and more small things too

Geometer bane is good in aracna cause she can slow and have + damage aura so its a lot of daamge and it great increase survivality, its very good on CD too and a lot used

Nullstone block almost every single target spell - see it here http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=38043

[Meowshi]

Why is geometers bane:GeometersBane: most used on arachna:arac:, it seems like that is the only hero it is a "must" on, y not on :corr::pyro::chip:...


Geometer's Bane is a very, very heavy DPS item. This makes it very good on any ranged semicarry such as Arachna, Valkyrie, Soulstealer, Engineer- Any agi semicarry/carry that needs damage.

The problem is, not all ranged agi semis/carries need damage. Corrupted Disciple leaches 20 damage / second from an enemy- that's more damage than geometer's will ever get you. Engineer has hit turret, which synergizes far more with thunderclaw than geometer's will synergize with him- so he doesn't get it. Wildsoul is melee half the time, so he doesn't get it- See what I mean?

Don't even bother getting it on characters that aren't agility. This means strength carries will never see this item (The damage boost isn't good enough for melee). Same with Intelligence.

[MCfrontalot]

Nullstone block almost every single target spell - see it here http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=38043

wait...does this mean that :dead: just cannot use his ult on you if you have this, or he uses the skill on you and it just does nothing? Also is it targetable...like you select it then click an enemy heroe and these skills are negated for a certain amount of time.

thanks for all your tips, much appreciated.

[Meowshi]

wait...does this mean that :dead: just cannot use his ult on you if you have this, or he uses the skill on you and it just does nothing? Also is it targetable...like you select it then click an enemy heroe and these skills are negated for a certain amount of time.

thanks for all your tips, much appreciated.

Assuming nullstone is not on cooldown:

Deadwood goes up to you, and you start to shine blue. You have successfully absorbed his ultimate.


How to counter this:
Deadwood goes up to you, but he knows you have a nullstone. Luckily, his buddy :blac: also knows you have a nullstone, and wastes flaming hammer on you. You go blue absorbing the flaming hammer. Deadwood proceeds to punch you for all your HP.

[MichaelBurge]

Assuming nullstone is not on cooldown:

Deadwood goes up to you, and you start to shine blue. You have successfully absorbed his ultimate.


How to counter this:
Deadwood goes up to you, but he knows you have a nullstone. Luckily, his buddy :blac: also knows you have a nullstone, and wastes flaming hammer on you. You go blue absorbing the flaming hammer. Deadwood proceeds to punch you for all your HP.

Or if the Deadwood was really smart, he'd throw his stick at you to eat your Nullstone. That way he doesn't have to rage at his Blacksmith friend for 30m afterwards for not using either spell "because the Nullstone would eat it".

[Meowshi]

Oh yeah. I forgot that Deadwood's tree skill also throws trees. Oops.

But yeah. You completely absorbs them, including swiftblade ultimate, succubus ultimate, witch/pyro ultis, and many more. It's really good.

[MrSmith]

But yeah. You completely absorbs them, including swiftblade ultimate, succubus ultimate, witch/pyro ultis, and many more. It's really good.


It's a good item but very situational. If you face an AoE lineup its nearly worthless because without targetable spells its pointless.
You should always look at the enemy lineup before buying it. pk_thunder told me it becomes viable if the enemy has 4 or mroe targetable spells a while ago.

[pk_thunder]

hey, does nullstone now block AoE spells if u target a hero with it

(like witch and his stun, if u click for the stun to hit some, by the target, it is considered a single target spell and ik for sure that frostwolf activates on it, but will nullstone eat it?)

[BrutalOne]

Some guides for Hammerstorm advice to buy Riftshard, but as far as I know Riftshard doesnt increase dmg when his ult is on, so why is it good item on him? Is it only cause U have better chance to hit crit dmg with your ult on? If so, is it worth the price?
ty

[pk_thunder]

^tbh I'd rather pk, insan, and behemoth heart on hammer

there's really no need for crits cus he's one of the beefier carries than the rest and wins fights just cus he has so much HP

riftshards can work with any hero with carry ability and it wouldn't be too bad (doesn't synergize with his ult but ur doing crits and have +75 dmg fairly cheap with a easy buildup)

[MrSmith]

Uhm I don't know why it shouldnt increase the dmage while his ult is on.

And uhm yeah Riftshards is a bit of a underrated item, but its decent on Hammer. Seeing some high red numbers popping up is fun.

[BrutalOne]

^tbh I'd rather pk, insan, and behemoth heart on hammer

there's really no need for crits cus he's one of the beefier carries than the rest and wins fights just cus he has so much HP

riftshards can work with any hero with carry ability and it wouldn't be too bad (doesn't synergize with his ult but ur doing crits and have +75 dmg fairly cheap with a easy buildup)

Exact the same build Im using, fast PK, shrunken head and late game Behe heart.


Uhm I don't know why it shouldnt increase the dmage while his ult is on.


Same reason U do not buy items with +dmg for him, U rather pick items with + STR like Behe Heart or Shrunken Head which are affected by his ult. His ult buffes only his "basic dmg" without +dmg modifiers.

[Meowshi]

You don't want Riftshards on hammerstorm. As BrutalOne said: PK, Shrunken Head, Behemoth's Heart

I'd like to add Helm of Rage and Insanitarious to those too. He has a ridiculously long list of items which are great on him. No room for riftshards.

[pk_thunder]

Uhm I don't know why it shouldnt increase the dmage while his ult is on.
his ult only amplifies his base dmg

[MichaelBurge]

his ult only amplifies his base dmg

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on :moon:,:arac:,:andr:,:dark:,:hamm:,:behe:,:pand:, :nigh: in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. :pest: is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.

[pk_thunder]

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on :moon:,:arac:,:andr:,:dark:,:hamm:,:behe:,:pand:, :nigh: in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. :pest: is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.
I'd grab a doombringer in that situation xD

[BrutalOne]

Riftshards stacks with this base damage amplification. It's the closest thing you have to the old Puppet Master/Scout crit-stacking days. This makes Riftshards great on :moon:,:arac:,:andr:,:dark:,:hamm:,:behe:,:pand:, :nigh: in terms of raw average damage on all boosted attacks. :pest: is sort of another candidate, but not really because he doesn't increase base damage.

Sure the raw damage on the Riftshards doesn't double-stack, but 75% stacking is good enough to beat out pretty much anything else except Doombringer + Riftshard.

If you're ever thinking to yourself, "My team can keep them slowed/stunned fine, I seem to have enough HP to get by in fights, can manage to not get stunned/slowed to a terrible degree, but we just can't seem to drop them before our initiation wears off", then Riftshards might be for you.

Im sure that +dmg from riftshard doesnt stack with Hammers ult, so paying 2650 for 10/13/16/20% chance for 1.8/2.0/2.2/2.4x crit dmg, is it really worth the cost? I would rather go for Behe Heart that scales good with his ult and buffs his HP to top..
imho

[Meowshi]

Damage from riftshards DOES stack with his ult.


Lets assume Hammerstorm's Ultimate increases base damage by 200%. You are able to get two items: Item that gives +40 strength, or item that gives +60 damage.

As a strength hero, you naturally get +40 damage from the item with +40 strength. With his ultimate, your base damage is doubled, meaning your +40 strength item now increases damage by +80.

However, if you were to get the +60 damage item, it is not 'base' damage. This means with your ultimate, you still do +60 damage. Not +120.

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.

[MichaelBurge]

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.


Base damage items are less efficient than raw damage items. Sure, on base-damage-doubling heroes they're pretty good, but you don't have alot of options.

Besides strength steamboots, insanitarius, behemoth heart, there aren't really any good sources of raw strength. As a result, most of your strength comes "naturally" through levels and points in stats, so you're not really losing much by going Riftshards over a strength item.

I think you'd have a tough time arguing that stacking base damage is superior to Riftshards for pure damage. If you disagree, you should probably start a thread in the Mechanics forum rather than continue it here.


I'd grab a doombringer in that situation xD

Probably not on Hammerstorm. It's semi-ok on Dark Lady, Nighthound, Magebane(to some extent), Scout because they're such mobile heroes they can stay in the shadows and jump in when they have an overwhelming definite advantage. It might actually be decent on Sand Wraith now that I think about it, but I'm too scared to try that. :p

[edit]: I fully realize that the raw damage does not stack with Hammerstorm's ulti, and that a strength item would make the number that appears next to your hero portrait bigger. I still claim Riftshards give more damage.

[BrutalOne]

Damage from riftshards DOES stack with his ult.


Lets assume Hammerstorm's Ultimate increases base damage by 200%. You are able to get two items: Item that gives +40 strength, or item that gives +60 damage.

As a strength hero, you naturally get +40 damage from the item with +40 strength. With his ultimate, your base damage is doubled, meaning your +40 strength item now increases damage by +80.

However, if you were to get the +60 damage item, it is not 'base' damage. This means with your ultimate, you still do +60 damage. Not +120.

Riftshards is pure, unadulterated, straight up damage. This means you'd be spending the money on damage which doesn't get doubled. That is why it's not a good choice on hammerstorm.


Exactly what I was trying to say, but English isnt my 1st language so I expressed myself wrong. Rift does add dmg to Hammer but its not, lets say doubled, by his ult. So, as U said, prolly not the best item on him..

[Tripwyr]

Riftshards is a good item for Hammerstorm, but quite simply other items are better. Portal Key, Shrunken Head, Behemoth's Heart, Insanitarious, etc. are all better items than Riftshards. They provide him with health and damage, rather than raw damage, which is important for a hero like Hammerstorm.

[spdn4cr]

Had a Fayde question. I've never used her and I have read the guides on her but am still uncertain about how her ult works. If you use her ult and the image gets killed are you then revealed or do you stay cloaked until the cloak cooldown ends? If pesty swarms you before you ult does the swarm stick with you or go to the image? Thanks!

[Meowshi]

Had a Fayde question. I've never used her and I have read the guides on her but am still uncertain about how her ult works. If you use her ult and the image gets killed are you then revealed or do you stay cloaked until the cloak cooldown ends? If pesty swarms you before you ult does the swarm stick with you or go to the image? Thanks!

This can be tested in practice mode.

1.If your image is killed, nothing happens. you are still invisible.
2.If you pesti swarms you and you invisi, the swarm sticks to you

[RedWrath5]

Sometimes while playing Always show health bars turns off. Is there a hotkey for turning it of and on? And if not, What is the reason it keeps turning off?

[pk_thunder]

Sometimes while playing Always show health bars turns off. Is there a hotkey for turning it of and on? And if not, What is the reason it keeps turning off?
I could never find the hotkeys for that :(

but you can do f6 and go to options then interface and it'll be the first checkbox option

[Tripwyr]

Keybinding is apostrophe ( ' ).

[JarJar]

-If Fayde is in Reflection Mode and gets purged, will she be revealed afterwards? (say someone has dust, activates and manages to reveal Fayde for the time being)

-If you were transfigured. could you purge yourself from it? (ie sheepstick/ Pollywog's Morph)

-Vindicator's passive silence: Does it silence ONLY the opponent casting a spell, or more than one if they are in the AoE? (Hag casts Scream, teammates silenced for being in the area)

[pk_thunder]

-If Fayde is in Reflection Mode and gets purged, will she be revealed afterwards? (say someone has dust, activates and manages to reveal Fayde for the time being)

-If you were transfigured. could you purge yourself from it? (ie sheepstick/ Pollywog's Morph)

-Vindicator's passive silence: Does it silence ONLY the opponent casting a spell, or more than one if they are in the AoE? (Hag casts Scream, teammates silenced for being in the area)
1) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=121925 says all stealth but the rune is unpurgable

2) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=27848 you are silenced and perplexed, so you can't

3) hero only

[Merkz]

How do I move an item from the stash to my inventory? At this point in the tutorial I can't move and it wont work with the two ways it gives you to move them.

[JarJar]

1) http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=121925 says all stealth but the rune is unpurgable



So would one be able to purge the movement buff from Fayde if you were able to reveal her? I think thats what I meant to ask.

[Meowshi]

Control right click

B --> Right click item in stash --> left click in your inventory

[Merkz]

Control right click

B --> Right click item in stash --> left click in your inventory
It still doesn't work, the item is grey as are both inventory and stash.

[Meowshi]

It still doesn't work, the item is grey as are both inventory and stash.

You're not in range of the fountain?

[pk_thunder]

So would one be able to purge the movement buff from Fayde if you were able to reveal her? I think thats what I meant to ask.
it seems like you should, because it's not on the non-purgable list

[A_v_a_t_a_r]

What does it mean to "ban" someone... does that mean they can't join any games you create? Will it notify you if you join a game with someone you banned?

[Meowshi]

What does it mean to "ban" someone... does that mean they can't join any games you create? Will it notify you if you join a game with someone you banned?

It tells you: "A_v_a_t_a_r is on your banlist: "*******""

Or something like that. You can join, they can join, it just notifies you.

[Pwnograhpy]

Is LN still the hot stuff for learning and fun inhouses without rage?

Also: What kind of carry is MQ and Predator...?

[pk_thunder]

Is LN still the hot stuff for learning and fun inhouses without rage?

Also: What kind of carry is MQ and Predator...?
LN is just big. everyone rages but it's still playable

MQ is just a regular agi carry/ganker/glass cannon
Pred is an anti-carry, the more hp u have the better for him

[Excil]

Pred somehow more an anti-tank ;)

[pk_thunder]

Pred somehow more an anti-tank ;)
tanks DO NOT EXIST IN HON. if u're a good carry u get hp too, have u ever seen an ss with a behemoth heart so he doesn't have surprise buttsex in a team fight?

[Mellow]

Tank is poor wording, but he is a counter to tanky (notice the y) heroes. As long as they don't have a lot of armor, that is. He is great against most str heroes, who have a lot of hp and little armor (but also great against most int heroes, who don't have a lot of hp and still have the little armor)

Armor is important because his carnivorous passive is physical damage. Pred has a lot of trouble against high-armored heroes.

Also SS with behe heart is pretty good because it allows him to kill creep waves with 2 nukes in lategame. But most people get FWS on him lategame anyway, which makes him extremely buff.

[pk_thunder]

Tank is poor wording, but he is a counter to tanky (notice the y) heroes. As long as they don't have a lot of armor, that is. He is great against most str heroes, who have a lot of hp and little armor (but also great against most int heroes, who don't have a lot of hp and still have the little armor)

Armor is important because his carnivorous passive is physical damage. Pred has a lot of trouble against high-armored heroes.

Also SS with behe heart is pretty good because it allows him to kill creep waves with 2 nukes in lategame. But most people get FWS on him lategame anyway, which makes him extremely buff.
the point was that ss + behemoth heard = good ss cus carries need survivability too (unless if ur a REALLY pro :scou: with ur 5 doombringers)

armor isn't a problem cus of his ult and the items that u should get on him

[RockCrock]

How do I change the hotkey for Fortification of Sol? I know that it is under controls, but I can't seem to find the specific line.

[SinisterMJ]

How can I deal with a Portal Key Pebbles? I have very few heroes I have real problems with (Glacius w/ Swift is one combo I do have problems), but the nuking bastarding jumping throwing me around Pebbles is something I have no clue how to deal with. And due to them usually porting right next to me there is no way to avoid the stun.

[MrSmith]

How can I deal with a Portal Key Pebbles? I have very few heroes I have real problems with (Glacius w/ Swift is one combo I do have problems), but the nuking bastarding jumping throwing me around Pebbles is something I have no clue how to deal with. And due to them usually porting right next to me there is no way to avoid the stun.

Like you said, theres no way to avoid the stun. You can't really protect yourself.
The best thing to do is buying some magic armor stuff. His combo deals about 1,1k damage. Thats much, especially early game but just buying a Vestment for 400g (+5 magic armor) will help you to survive his combo.
Of course that won't be enough if he just initiates a fight and his teammates follow him.

Another good advice even though it might not sound like one: Don't let him get the initiation

[Jezk]

2 silly questions which I had no clue where to post:

1. I can't get the following in-game chat command working:
/stats *player name* [pop]
I tried writing that pop with and without all kinds of symbols arround them, it just won't pop down the stats in a way they pop when I look my own stats.

2. How can I find my forum posts fast, I've not yet been able to find a list of them anywhere.

Thanks :)

[MrSmith]

2. How can I find my forum posts fast, I've not yet been able to find a list of them anywhere.

Thanks :)

You can just use the advanced search to search for posts by username.

Also i think theres a list of posts in your User CP but im not sure about that.

[pk_thunder]

You can just use the advanced search to search for posts by username.

Also i think theres a list of posts in your User CP but im not sure about that.
actually click on ur username on the top right of the tool bar at the top of the page (not the one that follows the screen) and then click on statistics and then view all posts

[spdn4cr]

Can someone explain to me exactly how flagellation works on gladiator? at level 4 I understand it gives 60 bonus damage. Is it just that 60 that gets splashed? Also, I'm assuming the enemy being hit also gets the splash? Thanks.

[Neru]

Can someone explain to me exactly how flagellation works on gladiator? at level 4 I understand it gives 60 bonus damage. Is it just that 60 that gets splashed? Also, I'm assuming the enemy being hit also gets the splash? Thanks.

I can't remember with 100% certainty since I haven't played DotA nor HoN in a while, but I think its +60 damage on that one attack, and is also splashed with the total of your damage. The enemy being hit gets the +60 damage but it isn't splashed onto them as well (for 120 damage).

So whatever your attacking will take your normal damage +60, and so will splashed units.

[spdn4cr]

I can't remember with 100% certainty since I haven't played DotA nor HoN in a while, but I think its +60 damage on that one attack, and is also splashed with the total of your damage. The enemy being hit gets the +60 damage but it isn't splashed onto them as well (for 120 damage).

So whatever your attacking will take your normal damage +60, and so will splashed units.

That's what I thought as well but another site said only the +60 true damage was splashed but maybe it was wrong. So in your example if the person had 100 damage to start with the enemy being hit would get 160 damage and the splash would be 160....does that mean all 160 is true damage? Thanks.

[The_Beholder]

That's what I thought as well but another site said only the +60 true damage was splashed but maybe it was wrong. So in your example if the person had 100 damage to start with the enemy being hit would get 160 damage and the splash would be 160....does that mean all 160 is true damage? Thanks.

If you hit your target for 100 without whip, then when you hit WITH whip, you'll hit for 160.

All targets hit with the cleave will take the exact same amount that your initial target took, and as pure damage.

The secondary targets will take MORE than the initial if you get a runed axe, and even the extra will be pure damage.

[spdn4cr]

If you hit your target for 100 without whip, then when you hit WITH whip, you'll hit for 160.

All targets hit with the cleave will take the exact same amount that your initial target took, and as pure damage.

The secondary targets will take MORE than the initial if you get a runed axe, and even the extra will be pure damage.

ah, okay, thanks...but doesn't that mean even without runed axe you do more damage to the secondary targets because the main target is not taking "true" damage while the secondary targets are?

[The_Beholder]

ah, okay, thanks...but doesn't that mean even without runed axe you do more damage to the secondary targets because the main target is not taking "true" damage while the secondary targets are?

The true damage dealt to the secondary targets is equal to the exact damage dealt to the primary target.

If you right click Madman and hit him for 5, your cleave will hit his ally Plague Rider for 5.

[YoonYul]

Can you set mute at each start of a game?
Can you hide the in game chat menu?(during a game)

[spdn4cr]

The true damage dealt to the secondary targets is equal to the exact damage dealt to the primary target.

If you right click Madman and hit him for 5, your cleave will hit his ally Plague Rider for 5.

Got it, thanks. Now I understand your runed axe comment. Much appreciated :)

[Layla]

How do you register an ingame channel, so that you will be able to set a topic for it, add people to the /auth list, etc - basically getting admin privileges?

/help aint helping.

Thank you in advance.

[BigHustles]

What is True Sight?

[pk_thunder]

What is True Sight?
pretty sure it gives clearvision (can see thru trees) and can reveals invis

[MrSmith]

Can i see EM % in Forum Player Statistics?

[pk_thunder]

Can i see EM % in Forum Player Statistics?
no (if u can TELL ME HOW) as far as I know, but you can tell by exp/min on the detailed ones, if anything is over 600 for avg then they play EM

[spdn4cr]

When I look at some replay stats many times I will see that a person with a higher XP/min in the game will be 3 levels behind a person who has a lower XP/min. How is that possible? Thanks.

[pk_thunder]

When I look at some replay stats many times I will see that a person with a higher XP/min in the game will be 3 levels behind a person who has a lower XP/min. How is that possible? Thanks.
maybe they d/ced? not sure if epm (experience per min) counts hero kills

[Forthemoves]

A few questions:
- What is magic damage?
- Would Riftshards allow V. Jester to get an critical strike with his ult?
- How do you counter characters with an ability that can interrupt a channeling spell?

[MrSmith]

A few questions:
- What is magic damage?
- Would Riftshards allow V. Jester to get an critical strike with his ult?
- How do you counter characters with an ability that can interrupt a channeling spell?

- damage reduced by magic armor is magic damage
- no this works just for auto attacks just like basically every item that adds+damage or adds an effect like slow or crit.
- most skills and nearly all stuns/disables are magic. With a shrunken head, wich gives you magic immunity you can counter any magic skill.

[pk_thunder]

A few questions:
- What is magic damage?
- Would Riftshards allow V. Jester to get an critical strike with his ult?
- How do you counter characters with an ability that can interrupt a channeling spell?
1) there are 2 types of dmg in game, magic and physical. auto attack and some spells are physical. rest of the spells are magical. harkons also makes ur auto attacks magical dmg. armor defends physical dmg while magic armor defends against magical dmg. magic dmg is more of early game unless if you pick up a harkons.
2) no, no dmg from weapons affects spells unless it says so in the tooltip (e.g. SotM or heroes with crits as a skill)
3) generally these abilities are magical (to be more specific, the dmg and other effects, like stuns, can be different. e.g. :pest:'s stun is physical dmg but the stun is magical). to best counter magical effects like these a :ShrunkenHead: gives you full magic immunity. I'm pretty sure some stuns are Superior Magic (that is stuns, if they are superior magic, go thru magic immunity, not sure if there is a spell like that tho ._.). there's no way to counter that.

<3 those walls of text

also here: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=36963

[JarJar]

-If I can't farm well enough with someone like MQ solo'ing top lane legion side, would it be better for me to just leech the XP in-lane, or swap lanes with a babysit combo like Madman+Voodoo lgeion bot?

[pk_thunder]

not sure why MQ is solo top, but it really depends.

if u're the carry then u should, but if ur playing a more gank oriented MQ then just leech the exp

most of the time u want a swap

[itwasntmeo_O]

-If I can't farm well enough with someone like MQ solo'ing top lane legion side, would it be better for me to just leech the XP in-lane, or swap lanes with a babysit combo like Madman+Voodoo lgeion bot?

Moon Queen is a carry hero. At no point do you want to just be leaching experience. You always want to be farming. Very few heroes can solo the short lane effectively (top for leg, bot for hellbourne), and moonqueen is too fragile to be one of them. In this case, you should swap for sure.

The long lanes for each side are typically more defensive lanes: heroes that need to farm, heroes that need tower protection, heroes that need jungle. The short lanes are for more aggressive teams: tandams than can dual-stun (magmus pyro), or lanes that can farm aggressively without risk (accursed soulreaper).

Moonqueen needs to play defensively against two heroes, so you should be bottom. Cask +cursed ground + barrel role + stalk can easily kill a hero. In the given situation, switch with bottom. In the future, take bottom or middle solo, or lane top with a hero like glacius - your nukes can do a lot of damage with some disable, and a long freeze + mana regeneration works wonders.

[spdn4cr]

Why do a lot of the pros use storm spirit on defiler. Does defiler's ult still do damage while she is in her own cyclone? does it still heal her? or is it used to slow them down for her to catch up? Thanks...just trying to figure out how that item is best used on her.

[Meowshi]

Why do a lot of the pros use storm spirit on defiler. Does defiler's ult still do damage while she is in her own cyclone? does it still heal her? or is it used to slow them down for her to catch up? Thanks...just trying to figure out how that item is best used on her.

I've been playing Defiler a lot recently

Stormspirit:
1. +20 movespeed is very, very good on Defiler. Especially combined with her +10% move speed.

2. Mana regen which is sorely needed for wave spam

3. A CC/Interupt able to stop channelers and hold people in place

4. An ally / own life saver which can be used to juke.


Yes, her ult does damage if you are cycloned. No it does not do damage if the enemy is cycloned. It should heal her during cyclone, but I'm not 100% on this.

I usually build my defilers: Phase Boots --> Stormspirit --> Frostfield Plate. I have tons of trouble vs. lots of CC on the enemy team however.

[FantomFiend]

Do KotF's gadgets still give True Sight? I thought this was changed but the heroes page says otherwise.

[MrSmith]

Do KotF's gadgets still give True Sight? I thought this was changed but the heroes page says otherwise.

haven't played him recently but tooltip, hondb and the main site say it provides true sight. So I tend to say thats true

[pk_thunder]

HoNWiki also says it does (tooltip part).

also "The vision granted by the gadget is not obstructed by obstacles."

http://honwiki.net/wiki/Keeper_of_the_Forest

[MCfrontalot]

What is the instant messenger that is used for HoN chat, is it IRQ? How do you access the HoN chat on there? thnx!

[YawningAngel]

What is the instant messenger that is used for HoN chat, is it IRQ? How do you access the HoN chat on there? thnx!
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=50900

And similar apps.

[MrSmith]

I have a question considering :NullfireBlade:. Why is it considered to be a core item on sand wraith?
I see that the mana burn is apllied to the illusions as well but I also think that there are other items for lower cost that add similar or better stats.
Also does :NullfireBlade: stack with :Shieldbreaker: ?

[pk_thunder]

I have a question considering :NullfireBlade:. Why is it considered to be a core item on sand wraith?
I see that the mana burn is apllied to the illusions as well but I also think that there are other items for lower cost that add similar or better stats.
Also does :NullfireBlade: stack with :Shieldbreaker: ?
ppl generally forget thet nullfire blade's purge gives an 80% slow, which is HUGE for a chasing hero

[YawningAngel]

And yes, it stacks.

[MCfrontalot]

if u rap, is there a way to see if that player was ever banned:smile:

[Meowshi]

if u rap, is there a way to see if that player was ever banned:smile:

They don't notify you by mail anymore.

If you're like, really stalkerish, you can just watch their matches list. If it suddenly has an empty day, and it's inconsistant with their previous plays (Like they play 3 maches a day, suddenly one monday they aren't playing while every other monday they have), then they were probably banned that day (or they have a real life)

[Wwolfmmirg]

is there a way to reduce your ranked leave % without paying 20$?
ive tried playing public games, but only my public leave % is decreasing and not my ranked one, theyre also different. im a leaver at ranked but not at public

[MCfrontalot]

is there a way to reduce your ranked leave % without paying 20$?
ive tried playing public games, but only my public leave % is decreasing and not my ranked one, theyre also different. im a leaver at ranked but not at public

keep playing public, your leaver status is an average of the 2.

[spdn4cr]

If you get a savage mace which gives true strike, is the true strike only for the savage mace damage or your total damage? Thanks.

[pk_thunder]

If you get a savage mace which gives true strike, is the true strike only for the savage mace damage or your total damage? Thanks.
the true strike makes your auto attacks never miss unless disjointed (aka evasion)

[Asinine]

Do riftshards stack?If they do, if you have a lvl 1 and lvl 4 riftshard, will you get the lvl 4 crit always or is it random depending whcih one procs?

[Meowshi]

Yes they do, don't do it because it's not worth it.

If you have a level 4 and level 1 riftshard, it is random depending on which one procs.

[pk_thunder]

if they both proc, only the lvl 4 will have the effect

I'm pretty sure they stack with hero's crits too, but it diminishes just like if u have 2 riftshards.

u want atk speed to go with riftshards for the best effect.

[Tripwyr]

Crit effects don't stack. The strongest effect will always be the one used.

[dune]

Crit effects don't stack. The strongest effect will always be the one used.

For clarity's sake, this is the correct answer. :)

[itwasntmeo_O]

I hadnt realized it had changed since dota.

In dota it was:


P(chance to crit) = 1 - (1 - P[A crit]) * (1 - P[B crit]) * (1 - P[C crit])

So a 35% crit and a 25% crit would result in a 51.25% overall chance to crit, with one overriding the other in precedence. This balanced multiple bashers / burizas before they removed the bash stacking.

Can you confirm it is actually different? Might not seem significant to you (eg simplifying it for simplicity's sake) but it makes a difference.

[Tripwyr]

I hadnt realized it had changed since dota.

In dota it was:


P(chance to crit) = 1 - (1 - P[A crit]) * (1 - P[B crit]) * (1 - P[C crit])

So a 35% crit and a 25% crit would result in a 51.25% overall chance to crit, with one overriding the other in precedence. This balanced multiple bashers / burizas before they removed the bash stacking.

Can you confirm it is actually different? Might not seem significant to you (eg simplifying it for simplicity's sake) but it makes a difference.

This is actually correct, what I said was only partially correct. If you have a strong 25% crit and a weak 25% crit, the strong 25% will apply to 100% of your attacks, and the weak 25% will apply to the remaining 75%. This gives you a 43.75% total crit chance.

That is my understanding of the mechanic, anyway. Elementuser can probably clarify this better than I can.

[SinisterMJ]

I got a question about Hellflower and Tempest ulti. Hellflower is supposed to be the counter to Tempest even going through Shrunken Head. What I wonder: can I use it while being caught in the ulti, or can it only be cast by heroes who are not being sucked in?
Same with Vindicator, can he activate the ulti while stunned / perplexed?

[ElementUser]

Both have a chance to proc.

Overall critical chance is what the person above me said. If both criticals proc at the same time, the highest critical multiplier will be used.

Overall DPS increase is calculated differently and is based on probability.

If you do a search in the Mechanics forum for a hearted thread with keyword "Critical", you'll find some more details on overall DPS increase.

[pk_thunder]

I got a question about Hellflower and Tempest ulti. Hellflower is supposed to be the counter to Tempest even going through Shrunken Head. What I wonder: can I use it while being caught in the ulti, or can it only be cast by heroes who are not being sucked in?
Same with Vindicator, can he activate the ulti while stunned / perplexed?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=27848

being silenced will not allow you to use spells and perplexed will stop you from using items.

being stunned is more of a pseudo silence, but it will stop all channeling spells. (like I'm pretty sure if you get sotm on :accu: you still won't be able to activate it while stunned and it doesn't stop :nigh:'s passive, the only passive that can be stopped with silence in the game)

[SinisterMJ]

One more question, when watching HonCast games, they always pause at the beginning. Is there any special reason to do so?

Edit: Thanks Thunder for that overview, I was not too sure about that Tempest ulti.

[jusatin]

the true strike makes your auto attacks never miss unless disjointed (aka evasion)

true strike cant be evaded

[Meowshi]

One more question, when watching HonCast games, they always pause at the beginning. Is there any special reason to do so?

Edit: Thanks Thunder for that overview, I was not too sure about that Tempest ulti.

Mechanically: No. Nothing special happens if you pause. Chances are, it's because they're giant huge tourney games, or they're fiddling with the honcast stuff.

[pk_thunder]

One more question, when watching HonCast games, they always pause at the beginning. Is there any special reason to do so?

Edit: Thanks Thunder for that overview, I was not too sure about that Tempest ulti.
there are competitive HoN teams across the world.

say a team from france comes to play vs a team from the US, US gets the server roll (or w/e they do to decide which server to play on) and I'm pretty sure they do:

game 1: US server
game 2: FR server
game 3: US server

if the US wins the server roll.

playing on a server that's far away from you generally makes you lag (because even if it's only .4 seconds of delay from the server to you, you'll still see the lag) and some times ppl just need a pause to get things set up and maybe relog/reboot in hopes for a better latency/less lag. sometimes it family business ("Get off the computer, you've used it all day") or their mouse broke.

lol I could've make this tons shorter xD

also pretty sure they sometimes pause for HoNCast, like when the stream screws up or something (I've seen it once but that was some time ago)

[Tripwyr]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=27848

being silenced will not allow you to use spells and perplexed will stop you from using items.

being stunned is more of a pseudo silence, but it will stop all channeling spells. (like I'm pretty sure if you get sotm on :accu: you still won't be able to activate it while stunned and it doesn't stop :nigh:'s passive, the only passive that can be stopped with silence in the game)

Vindicator's passive aura effects are stopped by silence (and stun?).

[pk_thunder]

Vindicator's passive aura effects are stopped by silence (and stun?).
:vind: can't silence when silenced/stunned?

[Juztice314]

My question is about playing Legionaire. I have read guides on him and also read up about creep stacking and pulling creeps into lane. However, whenever I play Legionaire I am usually a level or so behind everyone else while jungling.

I start with a shield+tango's and often buy the courier due to no one else buying it. I'll very often start by pulling creeps into lane and getting the last hit. Then i'll go to the easy camp and kill that. Next i'll look for a Skeleton camp or Vegabond and stack it. Very often though I get on very low health and have to stop farming for a good while, sometimes even having to run back to the fountain or send for new tangoes on courier.

My problem is that I often get low health on the easy creeps but also I can die quite fast from stacking mobs due to not enough swing procs. Is there any better way to do this?

[pk_thunder]

My question is about playing Legionaire. I have read guides on him and also read up about creep stacking and pulling creeps into lane. However, whenever I play Legionaire I am usually a level or so behind everyone else while jungling.

I start with a shield+tango's and often buy the courier due to no one else buying it. I'll very often start by pulling creeps into lane and getting the last hit. Then i'll go to the easy camp and kill that. Next i'll look for a Skeleton camp or Vegabond and stack it. Very often though I get on very low health and have to stop farming for a good while, sometimes even having to run back to the fountain or send for new tangoes on courier.

My problem is that I often get low health on the easy creeps but also I can die quite fast from stacking mobs due to not enough swing procs. Is there any better way to do this?
you want an HP pot and 2 buckers to start with and don't expect to be jungling effectively if ur in a pub were they don't buy couriers

[Tripwyr]

:vind: can't silence when silenced/stunned?

Correct

[itwasntmeo_O]

My question is about playing Legionaire. I have read guides on him and also read up about creep stacking and pulling creeps into lane. However, whenever I play Legionaire I am usually a level or so behind everyone else while jungling.

I start with a shield+tango's and often buy the courier due to no one else buying it. I'll very often start by pulling creeps into lane and getting the last hit. Then i'll go to the easy camp and kill that. Next i'll look for a Skeleton camp or Vegabond and stack it. Very often though I get on very low health and have to stop farming for a good while, sometimes even having to run back to the fountain or send for new tangoes on courier.

My problem is that I often get low health on the easy creeps but also I can die quite fast from stacking mobs due to not enough swing procs. Is there any better way to do this?

This guide is the best one: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=11992

However, you've said that you read guides, and know about creep stacking etc. Can you show us a replay of you with legion, so we can give pointers?

Hmm I'll give some quick advice regardless of replay.

Instead of pulling the creep camp into lane at 0:47, pull it at 0:52 to stack it. Pull THAT into the lane. It should deny the entire creep wave, and weaken the creeps. Proceed to destroy them. By the time they are dead, it should be around 1:30-ish. If you can find a golem camp, kill it. at 1:52 pull the large camp and stack it. Pull the pullable camp into lane again. You should be level 3, and the enemies should be near your tower because of your pulling. Use your health potion and go gank the lane if you can. A successful gank will get you level 4, hopefully some hero kill gold, and extra lane creeps to boot. Buy a health tube and stack as many camps as you reasonably can while killing small camps and regaining your health. If possible you want to have several triple-stacked camps by the time you hit level 5. Kill these camps and you'll have level 6, boots, and possibly your Helm of the Black Legion.

The trick with jungling heroes is balancing farming and ganking. A good balance will maximize your farm.

EDIT: I looked at the stats of your last legionnaire game. It looks like you did ok, and your entire team failed. Cant actually watch the replay from work, but if I remember when I get home ill glance at it.

[Percussor]

This guide is the best one: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=11992

However, you've said that you read guides, and know about creep stacking etc. Can you show us a replay of you with legion, so we can give pointers?

Hmm I'll give some quick advice regardless of replay.

Instead of pulling the creep camp into lane at 0:47, pull it at 0:52 to stack it. Pull THAT into the lane. It should deny the entire creep wave, and weaken the creeps. Proceed to destroy them. By the time they are dead, it should be around 1:30-ish. If you can find a golem camp, kill it. at 1:52 pull the large camp and stack it. Pull the pullable camp into lane again. You should be level 3, and the enemies should be near your tower because of your pulling. Use your health potion and go gank the lane if you can. A successful gank will get you level 4, hopefully some hero kill gold, and extra lane creeps to boot. Buy a health tube and stack as many camps as you reasonably can while killing small camps and regaining your health. If possible you want to have several triple-stacked camps by the time you hit level 5. Kill these camps and you'll have level 6, boots, and possibly your Helm of the Black Legion.

The trick with jungling heroes is balancing farming and ganking. A good balance will maximize your farm.

Here's a slightly better strategy. At 0:52, pull the yellow easy camp. (depending whether or not you're hellbourne or legion will determine whether you can stack multiple camps). That'll take you to level two. Look for skeleton camps, then double pull the two camps the farthest away from your base, (possibly with both legion and hellbourne). You'll have two stacked camps. I like to go kill skeles if you have any, then stack the third camp, (save it for say, level 5-6 or so, taunt and the other skill's going to be a must to kill this). From then, there's no particular order. Try to doublestack that camp when you can, pull when your lanemate needs it, gank at level 6, for sure. After that, stack as much as you can and farm wisely.

[OMG_SCOUT]

One question - if a 1800+ psr 2.5 kd guy choose beginner or intermediate in matchmaking just to have fun pwning noobs is it a case to be reported for a warning/ban?

[Meowshi]

One question - if a 1800+ psr 2.5 kd guy choose beginner or intermediate in matchmaking just to have fun pwning noobs is it a case to be reported for a warning/ban?

No. The system will bring him back to a high matchmaking ranking, and he'll be unable to stomp without making a new account.

[OMG_SCOUT]

Too bad it will tak ages, but thanks for quick answer.

[FantomFiend]

So many times I will have shop interface opened and see a gank coming so I try to use a skill but accidentally buy an item and it goes in my stash.

Is there a way to sell out of stash when you aren't at fountain?

[Tsunamee]

Is there a way to sell out of stash when you aren't at fountain?

Ctrl + Shift + Alt + Right Click

[Tripwyr]

Ctrl + Shift + Alt + Right Click

Only Ctrl and Shift are necessary.

[itwasntmeo_O]

I has a question.

Arachna's harden carapace - what does it dispell.

I know it dispells debuffs like hellbringer's slow. I know it dispells some DoT abilities like hellbringer's boil. I think it dispells tethering abilities like bubbles' kelp field and treant's roots, as well as disables like FA's crippling volley.

I know it does NOT dispell voodoo jester's cursed ground.

Is there any reliabel way to tell what it will/will not dispell?

Mostly hoping for a technical explanation like Trypwyr or Elementuser's godly code windows.

[MrSmith]

I can't come up with one of these code windows but it's pretty easy.

It dispells every magic debuff except for some non dispellable debuffs like cursed ground.
Also it doesnt remove madmans barrel roll but thats just some kind of a bug.

[itwasntmeo_O]

I can't come up with one of these code windows but it's pretty easy.

It dispells every magic debuff except for some non dispellable debuffs like cursed ground.
Also it doesnt remove madmans barrel roll but thats just some kind of a bug.

"Some non-dispellable buffs" is not really the technical quality of answer I was looking for :p Does that mean it does dispell other non-dispellable buffs? :D

I know from experience what it does and does not dispell, but theres some things that I have not tried and would be good to know. For example, gauntlet's cripple?

[boombitches]

Whenever i watch a replay animations are not present. Such as deadwood ult and SS ult. Any way to fix this?

[Imagica]

Whenever i watch a replay animations are not present. Such as deadwood ult and SS ult. Any way to fix this?

This is a known bug with replays. You need to go through the loading screen at the game lobby, just speed it up or something really fast. Then the animations will show correctly.

[JarJar]

Harkon's Blade
-Does it stack with other orb effects, namely Vindicator's and Arachna's?
-Does activating Shrunken Head allow the user to negate the effect from Harkon's Blade

-Can Bubbles' invulnerability be purged to allow him to be attacked/ targeted?

[Meowshi]

Harkon's Blade
-Does it stack with other orb effects, namely Vindicator's and Arachna's?
-Does activating Shrunken Head allow the user to negate the effect from Harkon's Blade

-Can Bubbles' invulnerability be purged to allow him to be attacked/ targeted?

1. No. They nerfed it so it can't.
2. Yes. The attack will count as a normal physical attack.
3. No.

4. All of these can be tested by yourself in the practice room.

[FantomFiend]

If I wasn't at work I would wait till i got home to test it out in practice mdoe, (then again my practice mode is bugged and doesn't work for many things), but can Illusions use Tablets?
If so, how does Double Damage affect an Illusion? Does Regen work? What happens if an Illusion gets an Illusion Tablet?

[Tripwyr]

If I wasn't at work I would wait till i got home to test it out in practice mdoe, (then again my practice mode is bugged and doesn't work for many things), but can Illusions use Tablets?
If so, how does Double Damage affect an Illusion? Does Regen work? What happens if an Illusion gets an Illusion Tablet?

Non-heroes can not use tablets, this includes Illusions.

[SledgeHammer]

Does Behemoth's Heart just add 10% damage on AGI when they attack? Because it doesn't change the damage which seams wierd.

[Tripwyr]

It adds 10% damage to everything. I can confirm this from a game earlier where I farmed it on Soulstealer. At approx 40+ minutes, creeps have too much health for Soulstealer to kill them with a double nuke. After farming the heart, I was able to double nuke them again.

[Asinine]

For the Electrician, his new mana shield at max says it produces a shield 1.33x the mana cast. My question is how much mana does the shield cost if your at full mana? Is it a percentage based off of gross mana or total current mana?

[MrSmith]

For the Electrician, his new mana shield at max says it produces a shield 1.33x the mana cast. My question is how much mana does the shield cost if your at full mana? Is it a percentage based off of gross mana or total current mana?

Practice mode ftw

Skill takes 20% of you max Mana or all your mana if you mana pool is below 20%

[JarJar]

Accursed's Flame Shield: After using a manapot and placing shield on myself, why does an attack still dispell the mana regen? I thought the shield absorbs the damage as opposed to Accursed. Is the game looking at the shield as a kind of buffer or is it looking ONLY for a potential attack impact at that point?

[spdn4cr]

With Slither's toxicity, does each individual auto attack create it's own separate toxicity damage for 7 seconds? For example if you shot an opponent once and then a second time 2 seconds would the toxicity damage just be reset when the second one hits or do you now have one going with 5 seconds left and the new one for 7 seconds? Thanks!

[Tripwyr]

With Slither's toxicity, does each individual auto attack create it's own separate toxicity damage for 7 seconds? For example if you shot an opponent once and then a second time 2 seconds would the toxicity damage just be reset when the second one hits or do you now have one going with 5 seconds left and the new one for 7 seconds? Thanks!

No, it simply refreshes the duration.

[spdn4cr]

Does runed axe splash with anyone's ulti like deadwood? or is it just on autoattacks?..thx

[tukkez]

Does runed axe splash with anyone's ulti like deadwood? or is it just on autoattacks?..thx

Panda's ult does splash with runed axe i think, but you shouldn't get runed axe on panda ever tho.

[MrSmith]

Does runed axe splash with anyone's ulti like deadwood? or is it just on autoattacks?..thx

"On attack, 40% of damage done is dealt in a small radius." On attack. Not on skill usage. Just on attack.

And no it doesn't trigger on pandas ult

[Tripwyr]

And no it doesn't trigger on pandas ult

Yes it does. Panda'a ult is a series of four attacks over 4.5 seconds. Since they are classified as standard swings, Runed Axe and all other effects will trigger from them. The same applies to each hit of The Dark Lady's Charging Strikes.

This effect can be seen in the screenshot below:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l199/Shadowalkerdk/th_pandacleave.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l199/Shadowalkerdk/?action=view&current=pandacleave.jpg)

[co]

Also attack modifier applies on swiftblades ulti?

Any other heroes than panda and him?

[itwasntmeo_O]

The attack modifiers do not proc on any of the 3/5/8 swift slashes, but if your attack speed is high enough you can attack between the slashes. These attacks are standard physical attacks and will proc modifiers like runed axe cleave, frostwolf slow, shieldbreaker -armour, riftshards crit... etc.

[much2much]

Accursed's Flame Shield: After using a manapot and placing shield on myself, why does an attack still dispell the mana regen? I thought the shield absorbs the damage as opposed to Accursed. Is the game looking at the shield as a kind of buffer or is it looking ONLY for a potential attack impact at that point?

Sounds like one for bug reports.

[Tripwyr]

Accursed's Flame Shield: After using a manapot and placing shield on myself, why does an attack still dispell the mana regen? I thought the shield absorbs the damage as opposed to Accursed. Is the game looking at the shield as a kind of buffer or is it looking ONLY for a potential attack impact at that point?

Accursed's shield does not prevent mana/health potions, bottle or Nymphora's Grace from being dispelled. These effects are dispelled upon impact rather than upon damage being taken.

[Saffire]

How can I start a practice game with 603 gold?

[Yukari]

Start a practice game, then buy 4 minor totems, a warhammer, mystic vestments, and a courier. You should be left with 603g exactly

[Neru]

How can I start a practice game with 603 gold?

If you don't mind getting it exactly, just buy a flying courier and 2x 1000g items, you'll be left with 615g I believe, and just pretend your "teammates" bought the flying courier for you. Much quicker than the exact combo.

[Nadriel]

Is there a way to bind hotkeys wich go like "shift + e" or "ctrl + a" ?

[MrSmith]

Uhm yeah a question, probably asked everytime when a new hero comes out, what items should I buy on Sniper?

[Pwnograhpy]

What command do you type in the console so that the game will automatically pick that hero for you when the game starts?

[Tripwyr]

You don't.

[Pwnograhpy]

How do you counter Flint? Atm whenever he's on one team I see him face roll through the laning phase with his range and just dominate the rest of the game, is he IMBA atm or is it just like any new hero to HoN and no one knows how to counter them for a little bit?

[Yukari]

Flint is currently imbalanced IMO, and will probably be toned down later. However, there are a few ways to deal with him to this day. Should Flint be in the midlane, the direct counter would be heroes with strong nukes and lane control such as thunderbringer, corrupted dis, pyromancer etc. Should Flint be in a sidelane, simply have an aggressive hero combos, pyro mag, witchslayer glad, etc. etc.

Just keep in mind that Flint has a pathetic hp pool and no escape mechanism early on.

[Neru]

A blinker can avoid his ultimate if you're good. If you can't time the blink you can probably get out of range anyway. Out-rune him in the middle lane and continually harrass for best results. Hag works well for the blink/rune control/massive nukes.

[Tripwyr]

Doctor Repulsor is an exceptional counter to Flint. Lot of burst damage, a solid disable, and an invulnerability charge to avoid the ultimate. Keep in mind that Doctor Repulsor's ultimate isn't even a disjoint, it just flat out makes him invulnerable to the spell. This means even spells which would track Magebane won't hit DRep.

I personally feel Doctor Repulsor is the strongest counter, but Flint honestly is really easy to counter.

[itwasntmeo_O]

Flint is easy to counter, people just havnt yet realized that they cant let him farm, and then stand in front of him right-clicking him. I had excellent results last night with a portal-key hammerstorm. Flint cant really do anything against a combo that can kill him in four seconds.

Just pretend the sniper is a soulstealer. How would you kill a soustealer? You wont just run up and attack him because he'll nuke the crap out of you. You kill him with harass and burst damage. You dont just let him CS, you beat on him while his damage is low and you have an advantage. If he gets farmed up, you're going to be in trouble unless you have a bigger/better carry.

[scoutcarry]

Call for a single gank in the first 4 levels if hes solo mid. Disrupting his farm with a single death is pretty devastating.

Also, I know a fair few people disagree with me, but I think flint is one of the worst carrys in the game. Even if he goes assassins, thats like 4k for an item which really doesn't give you much DPS and gives you a pretty easily counterable escape. If he doesnt go assassins, hes a hero with a bad HP pool, an RNG based ministun(and hence, unreliable), and no escape mechanism. Probably the easiest carry in the game to single out. Even arachna has an ability which gets out of SOME disables.

[Robb57]

Attack Speed and Damage

When is one better than the other? I always see it like this: either I could hit once per second with 100 damage or twice per second with 50 damage. Either way I'm doing 100 damage.

[scoutcarry]

Depends on the hero.

Look at the reason why your hero is a carry. Is he a carry with an RNG based skill, or a skill that is based on the amount of attacks he does but NOT reliant on the amount of damage he does, i.e. chronos bash, flint beastwood ministun, etc. Get attack speed.

Or is he a carry with a skill or ability based on his attack damage in some way, i.e. dark lady's tainted blades(debatable, but with the charging strikes + diminishing returns on attack speed I'd say DPS works better) nighthound's backstab, madman's critical strike, etc. Get damage.


Also probably a good thing to note: there are items which can change the dynamics of the hero. Getting Savage mace on arachna/forsaken etc. means you probably want to be focusing on attack speed afterwards as it can substitute for a skill with RNG based scalability.

Ditto for riftshards on the other end of the spectrum.

[itwasntmeo_O]

The thing is that damage increases linearly, while increasing attack speed loses effectiveness the higher it is.

Here is a table from the mechanics section:


Frames per attack| Seconds per attack| attacks per second| attack speed required

20| 1.00| 1.00| +70
19| 0.95| 1.05| +79
18| 0.90| 1.11| +89
17| 0.85| 1.18| +100
16| 0.80| 1.25| +113
15| 0.75| 1.33| +127
14| 0.70| 1.43| +143
13| 0.65| 1.54| +163
12| 0.60| 1.67| +183
11| 0.55| 1.82| +209
10| 0.50| 2.00| +240
09| 0.45| 2.22| +278
08| 0.40| 2.50| +325
07| 0.35| 2.85| +386
06| 0.30| 3.33| +467
05| 0.25| 4.00| +580
04| 0.20| 5.00| +750
03| 0.15| 6.66| +1033
02| 0.10| 10.0| +1600
01| 0.05| 20.0| +3300

You can see that the number of attacks increases at a slow exponential curve with respect to attack speed. To double your attacks per second, you need to quadruple your attack speed anywhere before the +500 attack speed mark.

If you pick up a doombringer, you'll always get +200 damage. If you pick up a second warpcleft, you wont get the same bonus as you saw from the first warpcleft.

From a playing point of view, the best way to go is to increase both at about the same rate. That will give you maximum damage per second for your money.

[scoutcarry]

The problem with your reasoning itsnotme is that your logic is flawed.

If you do 200 damage already, pick up a doombringer, you do double the damage you did originially.

Pick up another one, you do only 1.5x the damage you did with the first one.

That being said, Increasing both is usually the best idea.

The only Item which will always increase your damage by the same percentage(not including the stats gained i suppose) is geometers bane. Thats why its usually a core item on any ranged carry.

[itwasntmeo_O]

The problem with your reasoning itsnotme is that your logic is flawed.

If you do 200 damage already, pick up a doombringer, you do double the damage you did originially.

Pick up another one, you do only 1.5x the damage you did with the first one.

That being said, Increasing both is usually the best idea.

The only Item which will always increase your damage by the same percentage(not including the stats gained i suppose) is geometers bane. Thats why its usually a core item on any ranged carry.

I suppose, but I was thinking about it a little bit differently. Attack speed has specific break points to hit. If you spent 2100 on 55 attack speed, but didnt pass the next break point, then thats 2100 wasted for the moment. However, if you spend that on 40 damage instead, then you would have the 40 damage regardless.

[Epoch]

Does the base damage increase from abysall skull (15%) add in before Night Hounds back stab to give a 30% base damage increase from the back?

[Yukari]

Abyssal skull does not increase base agility, nor does it increase total damage. It only increases base damage, and because backstab has nothing to do with base damage, no. Backstab does not benefit from the +15% base damage from abyssal skull.

[Tripwyr]

Please remain on topic.

[Arc`Saber]

Why isnt Chipper used much in competitive play anymore?

[Decency]

Why isnt Chipper used much in competitive play anymore?

0.3.6:
Tar Toss no longer slows magic immune targets.
Sawblade Showdown SOTM upgrade changed: now gives a 90% snare that decreases over 4s.
*Won't slow couriers.

1.0.2:
Rocket Barrage damage reduced from 105/130/155/180 to 85/115/145/180.
Sawblade Showdown cooldown from 60/45/30s to 50s at all levels.

1.0.3:
Attack time increased from 350ms to 450ms.

[Yukari]

That, and the metagame is changing

[WaffleYo]

whats metagame

[Pwnograhpy]

And what is the metagame? I thought the metagame was about your mid game carry and ganking.

[itwasntmeo_O]

"Metagame" refers to the current playstyle in high-level games. The playstyle often determines which heroes are regarded as strong, and which heroes never get used.

Today's metagame is the trilane strategy. Voodoo jester and Andromeda, who rarely saw play in 2/1/2 lanes, now see a lot of time as trilane babysitters. Andromeda's stun and -armour skill allows a trilane to get good positioning and do a lot of damage to enemy heroes, where as witch doctor has a nice stun, a really nice heal, and a cursed ground skill (not used so much in trilanes) for lane control and babysitting.

Chipper is a mid solo that needs to gank a lot. In a trilane strategy, your mid will have nothing to gank because your trilane will be annihilating a solo hero or dual lane, and your other lane will be barely surviving a solo against another trilane or an aggressive dual lane.

In today's metagame high mobility heroes and excellent farming heroes are key in middle, and survivable heroes are key in the solo sidelane. Heroes like pharoh (freshpro only), hag, and valk are common in the sides, while soulstealer is the preferred mid.

[Yukari]

Metagame has a loose meaning, but kupo summed up the version that i was referring to. Cheers

[Anakha]

Do Mek and Plated share a cooldown (same base item of shield of the five)? Don't have access to HoN atm to check.

[scoutcarry]

No they don't anakha.

Also, metagame ORIGINALLY meant outside influences and tendancies on the game, i.e. "I know this team likes to play very aggressively, we should get more wards than we usually do this game" or "Trixi plays an insane valk, we should ban valk"

It originally came from SC:BW If i recall correctly, but there was a bit of a mistranslation when DoTA and HoN players picked up on the jargon, hence the current definition.

Note: The definition is as i said earlier in regards to SC:BW/other RTS. If you are talking about a game other than HoN or DoTA and refer to the metagame, make sure you dont confuse the 2.

[Drive]

Could (sorry if there is a thread about this) explain what kinds of attack modifiers stack and what don't? I have a decent idea about it but not sure. Give a few examples ifcyou can.

[RUSty_]

Could (sorry if there is a thread about this) explain what kinds of attack modifiers stack and what don't? I have a decent idea about it but not sure. Give a few examples ifcyou can.
Look at the items in "morph attack" at the shop. Anything with Attack Modifier, in its description does not stack with each other. Mainly modifiers that slow (Icebrand, frostwolf), debuff armour (Shield Breaker, Harkons), Lifesteal, as well as some passive/active abilities that use physical attacks (slither's Toxicity, etc.)

"Mana Combustion" (nullfire blade) is a type of exclusive modifier which can stack with an Attack Modifier however does not stack with itself (Magebane's passive) in which case the strongest of the two will be used.

[Drive]

Look at the items in "morph attack" at the shop. Anything with Attack Modifier, in its description does not stack with each other. Mainly modifiers that slow (Icebrand, frostwolf), debuff armour (Shield Breaker, Harkons), Lifesteal, as well as some passive/active abilities that use physical attacks (slither's Toxicity, etc.)

"Mana Combustion" (nullfire blade) is a type of exclusive modifier which can stack with an Attack Modifier however does not stack with itself (Magebane's passive) in which case the strongest of the two will be used.
This might seem stupid but I'm just checking--if you got a shield breaker and turned elder on, would the damage from shield still apply or is it just base damage? And would the +60 from shield be considered additional base damage or a modifier or would only the -6 be the modifier? Or do these items not stack at allzand if you got them what would happen?

[RUSty_]

This might seem stupid but I'm just checking--if you got a shield breaker and turned elder on, would the damage from shield still apply or is it just base damage? And would the +60 from shield be considered additional base damage or a modifier or would only the -6 be the modifier? Or do these items not stack at allzand if you got them what would happen?
Only the effects of debuffs placed (or lifesteal gained) from items will not stack. So shieldbreaker gives +60 damage regardless of what items you have (additional base damage), similarly the attack-speed increase from activating elder is added as well, but the modifiers do not stack (-6 armor vs lifesteal, preference is depended upon which slot both items are contained in).

[spdn4cr]

Sometimes I'll get a long lag burst and lose connection to the server in game which takes me back out to the lobby. Is there a way to re-enter the game i was in without having to close out HON and re-enter the game itself? My computer is so slow that it takes forever to reload HON. Thanks!

[Yukari]

Sometimes I'll get a long lag burst and lose connection to the server in game which takes me back out to the lobby. Is there a way to re-enter the game i was in without having to close out HON and re-enter the game itself? My computer is so slow that it takes forever to reload HON. Thanks!

Open up the console commands (Ctrl + F8) and type reconnect until it lets you reconnect

[RUSty_]

Sometimes I'll get a long lag burst and lose connection to the server in game which takes me back out to the lobby. Is there a way to re-enter the game i was in without having to close out HON and re-enter the game itself? My computer is so slow that it takes forever to reload HON. Thanks!
EDIT: already answered.

[luckyclam]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=12298551#post12298551

How can i do that?

[Thysios]

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=12298551#post12298551

How can i do that?

what do you want to do exactly?

[luckyclam]

what do you want to do exactly?

I want make my courier assigned to a hotkey.

[MrSmith]

I want make my courier assigned to a hotkey.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=121431

[Decency]

I want make my courier assigned to a hotkey.

Select the courier and press Control plus a number from 1-0. That will "assign" the unit to that number. Pressing the number at any point later will select the courier, and pressing the number twice will center your camera on the courier.

You can do this with a hero or any minions, as well. I personally use 1 for my hero and 5 for my courier.

[OCBslims]

I am mid with hag vs valk. First creep wave valk gets illusion rune and out denies me. I continue to fail at creeping, she just out last hits me, gets some 5s arrows off, dominates me mid, continues to rape my team, we lose.

What could I have done better? What was there to do in this matchup?

[Decency]

I am mid with hag vs valk. First creep wave valk gets illusion rune and out denies me. I continue to fail at creeping, she just out last hits me, gets some 5s arrows off, dominates me mid, continues to rape my team, we lose.

What could I have done better? What was there to do in this matchup?

Once Hag gets a bottle she can out rune-control every standard mid. This is pretty much the only thing Hag has going for her against ranged carries. Valk has not so great damage and relies on hitting arrows to get any kind of kills in a solo lane, so abuse your third skill to force her out of lane. Use it to get creep kills and hurt her simultaneously, as well as pushing the lane just before rune spawns so you have even more of an advantage getting to them first.

There's no way to teach someone how to not get hit by 5s arrows, either you're paying attention or you're not.

[luckyclam]

Select the courier and press Control plus a number from 1-0. That will "assign" the unit to that number. Pressing the number at any point later will select the courier, and pressing the number twice will center your camera on the courier.

You can do this with a hero or any minions, as well. I personally use 1 for my hero and 5 for my courier.

Thank you sir.

[Bokus]

What would be the best way to build maliken from start to late game?

[Yukari]

There is no best way per se, I personally prefer the following when I solo mid:

Bottle
Steamboots
Whispering Helm
Symbol of Rage
Edit: Shrunken head
Daemonic Breastplate
Riftshards

[Antimodus]

I don't understand why rush to upgrade WH into symbol before having any damage item, or shrunken head.
After all, it's only as good as your ability to keep attacking and do damage through autoattacks while activated. It's pretty expensive for what it does. Maybe if you get Insanitarious first...

[Yukari]

I don't understand why rush to upgrade WH into symbol before having any damage item, or shrunken head.
After all, it's only as good as your ability to keep attacking and do damage through autoattacks while activated. It's pretty expensive for what it does. Maybe if you get Insanitarious first...

Heres my response:

First things first. At the early levels 1-3, Maliken may not seem like much, however thats not too much of a problem for me most of the time, since most heroes are quite weak at that stage. When i hit 4-6'ish I'm able to combo swordthrow and animation cancel to do massive damage to my opponents. In between these, I use bottle to regen, grab the rune if its decent, even courier bottles if necessary.

Steamboots comes next, this ones obvious.

Whispering helm; the item that you question. This item can be obtained relatively early, at the 8 minute mark is my average. Not only does this allow you to stay in lane, but it nullifies the damage that you take from Enchanted Flames. But the bigger bit is that it allows you to dominate creeps and to stack ancients. It also gives a nifty damage and armor bonus. Icing on the cake.

SoR, the first big item. After hitting 11 and clearing the ancients once or twice, I can usually obtain a SoR at the 18-20 minute mark. At this stage of the game, most lineups only have burst damage. Semi's are powerful with they burst, same with nukers, however hard carries are still struggling. This is where SoR shines. Force a teamfight, or a small scale battle, initiate, ult, get bursted down, SoR right back up. Your dps is already huge in contrast to others.

Here is where things differ game to game. The item i did not list (or rather forgot, thanks for reminding me) would be Shrunken Head. Pretty obvious of an item, provides damage, str and magic immunity. Everything that Maliken needs to rape in Teamfights. Because FU disables when I'm having fun raping your team.

Daemonic and Riftshards are next, depending on the game. Daemonic if they hav massive physical damage, rifts if I feel like ripping everyone apart should my own life not be on the line (hell why should it? Imba lifesteal thanks to SoR)

Then whatever luxury it is you wish to have. Games usually end at this point for me.

[Bokus]

I will use that solo build but what about playing the side lanes?

[Numerio]

How does the deniesystem work?

1/3 exp for ranged, and 2/3 for melee

but im not sure if its meant that denys made by melee only deny 2/3 xp and denies from ranged 1/3 or if it means that ranged heroes get 1/3 of the denied creeps exp (and 2/3 for melee) --- regardless who denied it

im confused :balp:

[MrSmith]

How does the deniesystem work?

1/3 exp for ranged, and 2/3 for melee

but im not sure if its meant that denys made by melee only deny 2/3 xp and denies from ranged 1/3 or if it means that ranged heroes get 1/3 of the denied creeps exp (and 2/3 for melee) --- regardless who denied it

im confused :balp:

If you deny a creep the enemy gets 1/3 exp if hes ranged and 2/3 if hes melee, doesnt matter if you're ranged or melee

[WhiteRob]

Does Logger's Hatchet's bonus damage to non-hero units apply to towers and gadgets (like Engi's turret)?

[Yukari]

No it does not apply to pets or gadgets.

[Tripwyr]

(like Engi's turret)?

Keep in mind that Engi's turret (and his ultimate) are not affected by damage. They instead require a static number of attacks to kill.

[JarJar]

-Critical damage: Is the chance of achieving a critical strike completely randomized by the RNG or is there a concrete statistic? (leaving passives and Riftshards out of the question)

-Pharaoh's Mummy Wall: During the initial push form coming in contact, are you susceptible to any other abilities? (ie, Gutting Hook, Static Grip)

[MrSmith]

Hi, i was aruguing with a friend whether flint has a backswing or not. Someone has a link to a thread where this was said? Or someone has one of these program codes quotes?^^

[Yukari]

Flint does have a backswing.

[kattkiss]

Flint does have a backswing.

Like almost every1 do

[Yukari]

Like almost every1 do

There are no heroes with 0 backswing.

[RiskZero]

If bloodhunter has an abyssal skull and does his first skill on himself would it be +95% base damage total or is the equation different like the 15% from abyssal first then add 80% from the first skill ontop of that? (I'm horrible at math sorry)

Also is Abyssal considered a good pickup on him? If I were to pick up a ice brand as well would the chilled effect be the modifier being used or would it be the life steal?
Thanks!

[joeby]

If bloodhunter has an abyssal skull and does his first skill on himself would it be +95% base damage total or is the equation different like the 15% from abyssal first then add 80% from the first skill ontop of that? (I'm horrible at math sorry)

Also is Abyssal considered a good pickup on him? If I were to pick up a ice brand as well would the chilled effect be the modifier being used or would it be the life steal?
Thanks!

abyssal skull is not a modifier, its an aura life steal and therefore you can get a modifier like frostwolf or icebrand and still slow them while also getting the life steal. Other life steal items like satanic/symbol of rage and MoM/elder parasite will not stack with the ice/slow since those 2 life steal items are modifiers.

[Roflsocks]

its 80% plus 15%. Easily tested in practice mode, equipping the abyssal will give the same damage boost regardless of whether or not you have Blood Crazy on yourself.

Attack modifiers do not stack. If you wish to have more then one, you must switch between them. The default key for this is period. You can also download a mod that will auto toggle between attack mods. Whichever attack mod you equip first stays as the default, even if you purchase another one later.

[Tripwyr]

Abyssal Skull is not an Attack Modifier. Icebrand stacks with Abyssal Skull.

[Yukari]

The only part that confuses people about whether abyssal skull is an attack modifier would be the lifesteal portion. It is actually an aura that is propagated to the entire team, and Aura != Modifier. Note that ranged heroes do not gain lifesteal from Abyssal Skull's aura.

[Boozie]

How do people instantly pick heroes? Is there a keybind for it or mod or something?

[Yukari]

There is a mod;
alternatively you can spam click where the hero icon would be during the countdown.

[Decency]

-Critical damage: Is the chance of achieving a critical strike completely randomized by the RNG or is there a concrete statistic? (leaving passives and Riftshards out of the question)

-Pharaoh's Mummy Wall: During the initial push form coming in contact, are you susceptible to any other abilities? (ie, Gutting Hook, Static Grip)

1. It's completely randomized. The percentage differs depending on the type of critical, some are more frequent than others.

2. If you're not it's a massive bug and would have been reported by now, so I'm going to say yes without testing it.

[phatcrackho]

Is there a hotkey for moving an item from your inventory to the courier?

[Yukari]

Ctrl + Rightclick

[YawningAngel]

1. It's completely randomized. The percentage differs depending on the type of critical, some are more frequent than others.

2. If you're not it's a massive bug and would have been reported by now, so I'm going to say yes without testing it.

For 1, it's based on the output of a Mersenne Twister. It's not random, it's pseudo-random.

[Yukari]

I thought they didnt use PRD in HoN, only dota?

[Tripwyr]

That is correct, they don't.

The term pseudo-random distribution in DotA actually refers to the algorithm used by Blizzard. In essence it evens out random number generation by giving all (pseudo-)randomly occurring effects a very low chance of occuring, and increasing the chance each time they do not occur. By doing this, the average occurrence rate remains constant, but "RNG chains" do not occur as frequently.

Mathematically; however, pseudo-random distribution is a much more general term. Pseudo-random distribution actually refers to the distribution created by any pseudo-random generator. The Mersenne Twister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_twister) is the pseudo-random number generator employed by S2; IIRC, they actually use the SFMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_twister#SFMT) (SIMD-oriented Fast Mersenne Twister) which is faster and more accurate.

Correct me if I was wrong on any of this.

[YawningAngel]

You may be wrong on the SMFT part, the rest is accurate.

[Yukari]

Can I get this in laymen's terms? :P

[Tripwyr]

PRD means two things: Blizzard's randomization, and the output of a randomizer. Blizzard's randomization is a special algorithm which is a little bit deterministic, not truly pseudo-random. Mathematic PRD is the output generated by a true randomization algorithm. Basically, using PRD to refer to Blizzard's randomization is mathematically incorrect.

I hope this is dumbed far enough down for you =]

[Decency]

Can I get this in laymen's terms? :P

Blizzard uses a special algorithm for some "random" events. It's not intended to be random, it starts out at a low percentage and gets more likely every time until it procs, then it resets to the low percent. People mistakenly call this pseudo-random generation.

PRG actually just means pretty much any computer generated randomization, because computers have no way to actually make something random and just base it off of the milliseconds on the clock or something like that.

[Forthemoves]

What's the proper way to use Malphas in the middle of a team fight? I tried clicking ` to take control of him but get the courier instead which I usually purchase since I'm playing support. Should I even both taking control of him when the battle is heated or do I cast him in and let him work his magic?

[Decency]

First of all, before dropping him cast Life Void on as many enemy units as possible. It makes him deal more damage when he falls/breaths and also heals you a lot more.

After you drop him, immediately fire breath and then have him target someone. You can't use any hotkey that I know of, so just make a selection-box right after you drop him to select him, then q->click. Then go back to your hero (F1 or whatever you hotkey him to) and try to keep him alive. The Malphas isn't as important and as long as he's attacking a hero there's not too too much you can do with him.

[Neru]

What's the proper way to use Malphas in the middle of a team fight? I tried clicking ` to take control of him but get the courier instead which I usually purchase since I'm playing support. Should I even both taking control of him when the battle is heated or do I cast him in and let him work his magic?

Malphas can be used to initiate (starting the fight), as extra damage during the fight or to stun out channelling spells and end a fight. It's down to your team lineup what role he plays.

Generally, its best to use a life void and boil before you throw down Malphas, just so your spells are out of the way, the life void will heal you so theres less micro involved and Malphas will stun for a few seconds. When he drops, select him and if you're planning on hardcore micro'ing you can hold ctrl + 1 (or any number) and he will then be grouped to that key for his duration.

Setting him to attack an important or squishy hero is best, like the carry (:scou:) or a caster (:pyro:) and he generally just soaks up damage. Use his fire breath asap on as many people as you can, and if you're really good you can remember how long the cooldown is and swap back to Malphas when its ready again.

Bottomline is, keep Hellbringer alive while Malphas does the damage and takes it. If you land a good (3+ heroes)* stun then its already a well used ultimate, the summon is just a bonus.

*when I say 3+ that doesn't mean don't use it on a single hero to stop them getting away, use your own judgement.

[Yukari]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't hotkeys memorize what character they are assigned to now?

[MoTzin]

How do you reset your stats?

[RUSty_]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't hotkeys memorize what character they are assigned to now?
They do, and ty for informing me that.

[Asinine]

How do you drink from a bottle after grabbing an invis rune without breaking the invis for the first sip? I noticed that in some competitive games and on streams, players are able to take the first charge from a bottle after grabbing an invis rune and still be invisible. Is this a glitch?

Another neat trick I noticed is that if your tping from the fountain to somewhere and your inventory is full, you can swap the tp mid teleport for an item in your storage without breaking the tp.

[Roflsocks]

How do you drink from a bottle after grabbing an invis rune without breaking the invis for the first sip? I noticed that in some competitive games and on streams, players are able to take the first charge from a bottle after grabbing an invis rune and still be invisible. Is this a glitch?

The invisibility rune has a short fade time, during which, you can take action without breaking the invisibility. Simply bottle the rune, use it when needed, and immediately take one drink from your bottle.

[Robb57]

Of MSI and Loaded, which one is european and which is U.S.?

[Shinzuwa]

Is it possible to bind, say F2 to player controlled units? For example balphagors minions? It'd make things easier, thanks beforehand :)

[Shinzuwa]

Of MSI and Loaded, which one is european and which is U.S.?

Load = US

MSI = EU

99% sure

[Decency]

Is it possible to bind, say F2 to player controlled units? For example balphagors minions? It'd make things easier, thanks beforehand :smile:
Not with the default hotkeys, but you can easily change your hotkeys to make Control+F2 set a "group" and then anytime after that when you want to select your minions you can just hit F2.


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[Anakha]

Given the certain amount of spare money to afford the item, is it/will it ever be efficient to fill your inventory with lifetubes/trinkets of resto to regen the hp at a side shop, and then sell them before 15 seconds for a full refund?
This is instead of ferrying yourself regen consumables. Obviously circumstances like pushing the lane up need to be taken into account.

[Shinzuwa]

Not with the default hotkeys, but you can easily change your hotkeys to make Control+F2 set a "group" and then anytime after that when you want to select your minions you can just hit F2.


I've just tried this in practice mode, and it doesn't seem to happen anything. I have the minions targeted and i press ctrl+F2 (tried spamming F2 too, doesn't help), nothing happens. Am I doing it wrong?

Edit:
I did some more testing and found out that you indeed have to change a few things in the options. Go options->controls->look in the additional controls section->change "recall selection "to F2->change "add to selection 1" to ctrl+F2
Now I'm able to do what I wanted.

Tyvm for the help :)

[itwasntmeo_O]

Given the certain amount of spare money to afford the item, is it/will it ever be efficient to fill your inventory with lifetubes/trinkets of resto to regen the hp at a side shop, and then sell them before 15 seconds for a full refund?
This is instead of ferrying yourself regen consumables. Obviously circumstances like pushing the lane up need to be taken into account.

Its a nice abusable thing, but to be honest if you're sitting by the side shop for 30 seconds just to buy and sell two hits of lifetubes, you're probably better off hurling all your spells at something to get gold, teleporting back to base, and then returning with full mana/life/cooldowns. The chances that you can buy a lifetube, creep enough, and return to sell/rebuy it enough for it to be effective is very small.

[Yukari]

Its a nice abusable thing, but to be honest if you're sitting by the side shop for 30 seconds just to buy and sell two hits of lifetubes, you're probably better off hurling all your spells at something to get gold, teleporting back to base, and then returning with full mana/life/cooldowns. The chances that you can buy a lifetube, creep enough, and return to sell/rebuy it enough for it to be effective is very small.

Agreed. The better alternative is to courier over consumeables when the circumstance calls for it, and to ck. 30s at the sideshop = give enemy 1 wave of freefarm, while losing 1 wave yourself. Thats two waves in their favor.

[Anakha]

Its a nice abusable thing, but to be honest if you're sitting by the side shop for 30 seconds just to buy and sell two hits of lifetubes, you're probably better off hurling all your spells at something to get gold, teleporting back to base, and then returning with full mana/life/cooldowns. The chances that you can buy a lifetube, creep enough, and return to sell/rebuy it enough for it to be effective is very small.


Agreed. The better alternative is to courier over consumeables when the circumstance calls for it, and to ck. 30s at the sideshop = give enemy 1 wave of freefarm, while losing 1 wave yourself. Thats two waves in their favor.

Ctrl+Shift+right-click ensures that you can sell from anywhere on the map without having to be next to the shop. So it's possible to still contest the lane and CK, while doing this. As both of your objections are based on time away from the creeps, would this change anything?

[Yukari]

No, because this then introduces the variable of creep position. If your lane is pushed up, it MAY work, as it will still take time to walk back to the shop after the 15 seconds just to abuse this. The other factor is that because you are repeatedly doing this, enemies may chase you in the side shop resulting in unfavorable positioning on your part.

I still rather courier an HP potion or something.

Though I guess you can pick up a lifetube real fast while getting to the creep line and sell it for a bonus ~50hp; no harm no foul in that.

[mitha]

well, if you get initiated or something while carrying that lifetube, you could get into problems... it sounds not bad, a bit like the practice of switching str out of your inventory to reg better. I have to admit thats too much of a hassle for me ^^

[Neru]

I've always changed my Steamboots to Int/Agi/Str for more bonuses. i.e. I'm about to use my bottle charges, I'll change to Agi which lowers mana/hp pool and therefore more healing. Or before casting a spell I'll change to INT then change back.

I know competitive players do/did this but my friend said they've now changed it so it doesn't help at all, and it was an exploit. Truth? Or bull? I also remember the treads trick happening in DotA so I never saw it as a bug..

[Tsunamee]

Does barbed armour reflect damage before or after damage reduction?

ie: if a hit of 100 has 40 damage blocked by HotBL is it 80 damage or 48 damage reflected?

Thanks

[Yukari]

Its 80% after damage reduction.

[Kudryavka]

I've always changed my Steamboots to Int/Agi/Str for more bonuses. i.e. I'm about to use my bottle charges, I'll change to Agi which lowers mana/hp pool and therefore more healing. Or before casting a spell I'll change to INT then change back.

I know competitive players do/did this but my friend said they've now changed it so it doesn't help at all, and it was an exploit. Truth? Or bull? I also remember the treads trick happening in DotA so I never saw it as a bug..
Still works just fine.

[zerojay]

so, let's say i'm playing a support hero...

and I'm asked to buy the courier. Bought it. 10 minutes into the game, okay, then they want me to upgrade it... I don't know how to do that. I have always bought the recipe but it never gets together, how do I upgrade the monkey to bird if I the monkey is already on game?

[Shinzuwa]

so, let's say i'm playing a support hero...

and I'm asked to buy the courier. Bought it. 10 minutes into the game, okay, then they want me to upgrade it... I don't know how to do that. I have always bought the recipe but it never gets together, how do I upgrade the monkey to bird if I the monkey is already on game?

You put the recepie on the monkey and then use the monkey's first skill. Woop woop, he's flying!

Anyways, good of you to buy a courier, if there only where more like you. Some people don't even use the courier, it's a waste.

[SB7]

stupid question, but

On my stats page it says I've played 601 games
my record is only 232-229 though (461 games)

(1) Where did the other 140 games go?
EDIT: I checked a hon stats page and it seems maybe these 140 are ranked games.. which is very confusing if this is how that stats page is set up


(2) My win % is only 39% (yet, my actual win %, 232-229, is slightly over 50%).. I don't understand, am I missing something very obvious??

..and it's not the 140 ranked games, as apparently back when i actually played ranked I was around 48% win rate

[spdn4cr]

I thought I saw this asked on this thread before but can't find it:

1) What do you do to sell an item while out on the map away from the stores? I remember it was some combination of shift or ctrl mouse button of some sort??

2) There are times when I think the courier is shared with me (when it really isn't) and as I attempt to buy an item it sticks it in my stash (grayed out) instead while I'm away from the fountain...how do i get rid of that item from by "grayed" out in my stash in case I don't want to get it after all?

Thanks!

[Yukari]

I thought I saw this asked on this thread before but can't find it:

1) What do you do to sell an item while out on the map away from the stores? I remember it was some combination of shift or ctrl mouse button of some sort??

2) There are times when I think the courier is shared with me (when it really isn't) and as I attempt to buy an item it sticks it in my stash (grayed out) instead while I'm away from the fountain...how do i get rid of that item from by "grayed" out in my stash in case I don't want to get it after all?

Thanks!

1. Ctrl Shift Rightclick on said item.
2. Ctrl right click while having the courier and shop selected.