View Full Version : Swiftblade casting whirlwind WHILE stunned?
Timeetyo
08-20-2009, 01:20 PM
So last night I was playing Jereziah with Magmus in my lane for some fun stun/heal combos. We kept running into a bug (I assume) with swiftblade where the following would happen:
- Magmus ports in and stuns swiftblade
- Swiftblade takes the damage, is lifted in the air (0.5s), and dropped as if he were affected by the stun (should be for another ~1.5s).
- As soon as the swiftblade landed, he was able to activate whirlwind during a time when he SHOULD have been still stunned.
- I would shout lots of ^&*() in vent as I couldnt heal/kill the swiftblade that was in the red. :(
So, my question is...is this intended? I never played dota (/me hides) so I'm not sure if sandking's stun worked this way as well.
`BlackKnight
08-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Well, if it's working like you say and you're sure he took the damage from the stun, then it doesn't sound right to me. My only question is if it's possible that he was hitting his spin at the same time that magmus cast his stun -- sometimes wierd stuff happens when things happen at the same time (e.g. scout can vanish while silenced by bloodhunter if he pressed it right when he was being silenced). No, Yurnero couldn't cast while stunned in DotA.
Timeetyo
08-20-2009, 08:19 PM
I'm sure he took the damage. What I suspect is happening is this:
He gets hit and goes into the air (and is invuln) and queue's his ability. He lands and then it goes off in the time between him falling and the stun taking affect.
Timeetyo
08-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Update:
It isn't just swiftblade. I had the exact same thing today with valkyrie. I saw the damage hit valk and she immediately jumped away when she hit the ground.
SimpleFear
08-20-2009, 11:34 PM
I thought this was WAI.
It's not until the character lands on the lava that the second stun initiates... However, now that I think about it maybe it is not working properly...
willtsay
08-20-2009, 11:56 PM
Well, if it's working like you say and you're sure he took the damage from the stun, then it doesn't sound right to me. My only question is if it's possible that he was hitting his spin at the same time that magmus cast his stun -- sometimes wierd stuff happens when things happen at the same time (e.g. scout can vanish while silenced by bloodhunter if he pressed it right when he was being silenced). No, Yurnero couldn't cast while stunned in DotA.
wouldnt the scout scenario happen because he pressed vanish and then bloodhunter casts silence, there is fade time for vanish (afaik), which gives a lee-way for spells/attacks to hit XP
SimpleFear
08-21-2009, 12:21 AM
wouldnt the scout scenario happen because he pressed vanish and then bloodhunter casts silence, there is fade time for vanish (afaik), which gives a lee-way for spells/attacks to hit XP
+1, this guy is right.
Vanish was ALREADY cast before the silence debuff was applied.
Just like if swiftblade is spinning silence doesn't stop the spin.
krucifix
08-21-2009, 12:21 AM
wouldnt the scout scenario happen because he pressed vanish and then bloodhunter casts silence, there is fade time for vanish (afaik), which gives a lee-way for spells/attacks to hit XP
Yep, but this stun scenario sounds interesting.
Update:
It isn't just swiftblade. I had the exact same thing today with valkyrie. I saw the damage hit valk and she immediately jumped away when she hit the ground.
if a spell hits valkyrie while shes in the air the damage/stun is negate because shes invulnerable, atleast thats how it is for potm in dota
TheConquero1
08-21-2009, 12:58 AM
i witnessed this happen with a tempest getting stunned by magmus, he used his portal key around the time the stun began and he was lifted into the air, when he landed he teleported away and was stunned at the other end
Timeetyo
08-21-2009, 01:12 AM
if a spell hits valkyrie while shes in the air the damage/stun is negate because shes invulnerable, atleast thats how it is for potm in dota
That's not what I'm saying. She was hit by magmus' stun. Went into the air for the .5s that she should have. She TOOK damage from the magmus skill. When she landed from the .5s air time portion of the skill she leaped away.
What should have happened is that after she landed from magmus skill she SHOULD have been stunned in place for another ~1.5s.
OrbitzXT
08-21-2009, 04:28 PM
In the case of Valk, is she leaping then stunned when she lands? Or does she take the damage and leap away with no stun time at all? Also, is this Magmus' stun only? The thread topic makes it seem like Magmus isn't the issue but all the posts discus his stun specifically.
Timeetyo
08-21-2009, 08:01 PM
In the case of Valk, is she leaping then stunned when she lands? Or does she take the damage and leap away with no stun time at all? Also, is this Magmus' stun only? The thread topic makes it seem like Magmus isn't the issue but all the posts discus his stun specifically.
In the case of the valk, i'm not sure if he was stunned when he landed as he was out of LOS. I do think this is a problem specificly with magmus' stun ever since they added the short air time to his stun. Anyone affected by the first portion (0.5s air time/invuln) should NOT be able to cast another spell/ability before the actual 1.5s stun takes place.
Glorify1
08-21-2009, 08:11 PM
Image's don't seem to get stunned by crix's stun. It'll knock them up but deal no damage and inflict no stun.