Player Report: AceL

[Derpster]

Hey, I found this player when I was playing a 3on3 and found out he and another guy in his team was using the same account. I have a replay for proof.
I don't think this should be allowed since it's violating the rules of HoN.
Match id: 2371916

[Ass_Fister]

interesting ... are you saying he had the same name?
i played against 2 guys with same name in a 5vs5 ... they had the same name, same stats ...

[Amdir]

Could you please specify exactly where the rules are violated by this kind of behaviour? I read through the ToS and I couldn't really find anything specifying this matter at all (but that might just be me). I have played with and against people "exploiting" this and I don't really like it. But if this isn't intended by S2 they should really blame themselves since they made it possible for the same account to log in while it's already logged into the server.

What HoN does right now is that if I am logged on as Amdir, and then one of my friends would log in using my nick and password it wouldn't deny him access to log in. Instead it throws me out of the chat server (not logging me off completely) while my friend is connected to the chat server. Thus it's possible to play two people on the same account. (Notice this was an example, I haven't done this myself).

If S2 would like to prevent this from happening they should not make it possible to log in to HoN if your account already is logged on.

[Grippto]

ofcourse its illegal, well then iam going to sell out my account for cheap to my friends!

P.S that was a joke

[Tankie]

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[Amdir]

Of course it would be illegal to SELL (commercial blabla) but if that isn't done... well. If it's confirmed I hope S2 bring up a fix pretty soon.

[Derpster]

Well as I belive this is an issue concerning alot of things. I don't think S2 intended to have this "system" implented since it would leave them with very much less buyers and I belive they wanted to gain money from this game since they put a price on it. So why would it ever be tolerated to play on the same account. Let me give you an example, let's say there's 2 people using the same account on a 5 versus 5 game, 1 of them pick an late-game hero and the other one picks a support, they both lane and all goes well. When they kill someone they will gain 1 kill and 1 assist. This easy boosting exploit would also raise your psr real high cause everything you do on the other account would go to you. if you win 10 psr then it will be 20 if your duplicate is in the game too.

[Amdir]

Of course, I get all that and I agree with you Derpster. But I really don't think there's much we or anyone can do before S2 fix this since this is an issue with how the log in issue handles account log ins...

[AcEL]

I just have to comment on this one...


Well as I belive this is an issue concerning alot of things.

You give two examples, two is not alot in my opinion....


I don't think S2 intended to have this "system" implented since it would leave them with very much less buyers and I belive they wanted to gain money from this game since they put a price on it. So why would it ever be tolerated to play on the same account.

I just think it went the other way around last night... Since the other person that played on my account eventually bought the game. It is hard to sell something to someone, if that other person don't find the product suitable for his/her own needs.

In other words, I don't think this hardcore DotA of mine would have bought HoN unless I would have let him play on my acc.


When they kill someone they will gain 1 kill and 1 assist. This easy boosting exploit would also raise your psr real high cause everything you do on the other account would go to you. if you win 10 psr then it will be 20 if your duplicate is in the game too.

Let us put it the other way around. If both of you get ganked and killed, you get 2 deaths instead of 1. If you lose, you lose 2x the PSR you normally would. I can't find any advantages related to the stats...

Qoute from the ToS:

"3:

11:You will not exploit any bug in S2's product to gain unfair advantage in the game and you will not communicate the existence of any such bug (either directly or through the public posting) to any other user of the Service."

Sorry, but I can't seem to find your point...

AceL

[Derpster]

I just have to comment on this one...



You give two examples, two is not alot in my opinion....



I just think it went the other way around last night... Since the other person that played on my account eventually bought the game. It is hard to sell something to someone, if that other person don't find the product suitable for his/her own needs.

In other words, I don't think this hardcore DotA of mine would have bought HoN unless I would have let him play on my acc.



Let us put it the other way around. If both of you get ganked and killed, you get 2 deaths instead of 1. If you lose, you lose 2x the PSR you normally would. I can't find any advantages related to the stats...

Qoute from the ToS:

"3:

11:You will not exploit any bug in S2's product to gain unfair advantage in the game and you will not communicate the existence of any such bug (either directly or through the public posting) to any other user of the Service."

Sorry, but I can't seem to find your point...

AceL

Just because he wants to "test" the game doesn't mean you have to illegally do it. Both players DOES not have to test the game at the SAME time. My point is why exploit something and then try to turn it the other way around. You exploited something, stand for it don't make up excuses like "He wanted to test the game" cause that won't hold. Don't try to cover it up with lame excuses please....

[AcEL]

Why quote a post that is directly above your own? Really unnecessary, since it makes the topic hard to read on netbooks cellphones etc...

OT:Read the ToS and quote the thing that I violated... I don't like it when people make hesitated conclusions...

AceL

Edit: I didn't even share my Log-in info... So that won't do.

[Cody900]

I'm not sure why it's an exploit. There shouldn't be anything in the rules preventing someone to use 2 or more heroes in the same game, due to the heavy use of mouse and keys, it would take a massive amount of micro to control both.

All people are doing here is multiboxing but without having to pay for a second account. It's more of a fail in the system that you can be in the same game twice, it should check for stuff like that. People arne't doing it for malicious reasons, it doesn't give them any advantages, unless they're on opposite teams or soemthing, then the host should B&!

[AcEL]

In this case it we didn't multibox. And there is allready some restrictions against this. Both clients can't be connected to the chatserver at once.

[Derpster]

You and I are both aware that the text's "largeness" is not really the problem here is it? :). Just admit that what you did was wrong...

[AcEL]

I don't know how you been rasied, but I've been tought to follow the laws and rules. Since I can't anything that makes my actions illegal, and since you can't provide any such information ethier, I won't post in this thread until a member of S2 staff or any other higher instance reply to this topic.

Be more submissive and cope with the situation.

AceL

Ps. Since I usually browse these forums with my Nokia E90 I find avoidable quotes highly annoying...ds.

[Derpster]

So, to you this is legal? Why do you think they implented different accounts? Why do you think they made a prize on EACH account?

[Derpster]

This all was just mere information for the S2, either they deal with this or they let it be. It's up to them how they want their game to come out.

[Amdir]

Why do you care so much anyway Derpster? Are you angry at AceL for "exploiting" this so-called bug or because he just won the game? It's not like it would have made a difference if there really would or could have been two different accounts since it would have been the same players. He does not win or loose with any unfair means.

Then you say "someone better than AceL could bring up his stats for him that way etc.". Well - if AceL really wanted someone to bring up his stats he could just borrow his accoun to someone good if he wanted to. But this whole account business with people logging in twice or more is surely just between friends wanting to game a game together.

Of course people have to pay for their accounts, do you really think anyone could keep gaming HoN forever with many persons using the same account? In the end it's mostly bad for the stats, and it's a real pain to get everything working with the chat servers and so on.

I just can't find the problem with someone gaming with his friend like that, now that S2 took away LAN from the game. Don't worry - I am quite sure S2 will fix the problem asap.

[Jager]

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Yes please. :)