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Angus
05-09-2010, 04:45 PM
I don't mind them when they're with breaky or another co caster, but the Honcast Tournament casts that they did are frankly painful to listen to, and I end up just turning them off after 10 minutes.

Please keep them as co casters, just not together. kthxbai

RancHero
05-09-2010, 06:56 PM
Agreed

RancHero
05-09-2010, 06:59 PM
And On a side note Chapy shouldnt even cast
-Shitty Mic
-Never knows what he is talking about
-not knowing his own name at times
-and never knows knows which characters are being used

Every time I hear him cast I just imagine Ernie from sesame Street Blindfolded yelling hysterically while facerolling his key board

Deductive
05-09-2010, 07:25 PM
Personally, I find Chapy to be an excellent caster with a lot of talent I just agree on the not liking the co-caster. Personally, make him do a solo cast and I think you will see his true knowledge of the game. He has played with some top tier teams I saw him in T7H and shh I believe so he definitely knows his stuff :D

RancHero
05-09-2010, 07:32 PM
personally I believe he is ignorant and forgets he is casting a HoN game and not a DoTa game.

Rawrior
05-09-2010, 08:55 PM
-Shitty Mic
-Never knows what he is talking about


His mic is fine and what? He knows what he is talking about, maybe it's YOU who just doesn't understand what he's talking about.(Nice 1549 psr)

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Rawrior your bad, all you do is pubstomp to get your psr up Im the only real Warrior here,
And back to the main topic Chapy needs to get some phonix

Rawrior
05-09-2010, 09:19 PM
Rawrior your bad, all you do is pubstomp to get your psr up Im the only real Warrior here,
And back to the main topic Chapy needs to get some phonix

You seem to be struggling in the 1500 bracket, sir.

Rawrior
05-09-2010, 09:23 PM
lol Apparently I pissed him off enough to make him message me in-game.


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8439/ranrage.png

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:26 PM
Once again Rawrior is neglecting the fact that this thread is over Chapy's inability to cast well, and for some reason wont stop talking about me. On a side note Rawrior if you want to talk about my psr try making a thread about it, this is not the time nor correct place to discuss such an issue. But on a side note again again considering how bad of a caster chapy is maybe he should cast your teams poopy Comp games you actually participate in(you know were you get stomped and spell help). Who knows maybe somome bad casting your horrible comp team get stomped might equal out the badness?
Also Half you comp team is gone I heard they left you because your mom stop putting out for your team.

Darkstrand
05-09-2010, 09:27 PM
"hey your bad"

Rawrior
05-09-2010, 09:31 PM
Once again Rawrior is neglecting the fact that this thread is over Chapy's inability to cast well, and for some reason wont stop talking about me. On a side note Rawrior if you want to talk about my psr try making a thread about it, this is not the time nor correct place to discuss such an issue. But on a side note again again considering how bad of a caster chapy is maybe he should cast your teams poopy Comp games you actually participate in(you know were you get stomped and spell help). Who knows maybe somome bad casting your horrible comp team get stomped might equal out the badness?
Also Half you comp team is gone I heard they left you because your mom stop putting out for your team.

Yes and my first comment was right on topic by saying he did know what he was talking about, it was you who just doesn't understand him.

As for the rest of your post, it's nonsense.

Cyra
05-09-2010, 09:31 PM
I actually quite like the combo cause they're just talking crap, it's funny. Perhaps if you wish to get a serious shoutcast going they're not the best team, but I'm personally a fan of the combo as it's not like anything I learn comes from what shoutcasters are saying anyhow. Better to have some crap talk I can laugh about than some wrong talk that I'll just correct in my mind.

Darkstrand
05-09-2010, 09:33 PM
i personally dont like casters, since when im watching i know wtf is going on

where is the catering to my demographic?

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Well two people agree with me that Cyra and Darkstrand both agree that Rawrior and Chapy are bad

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:35 PM
IM cooler than him as well and also dont try to deny that half your team left you because they know your just a pub stomp king

awwwwFRIENDs
05-09-2010, 09:43 PM
learn to use the edit button you deadsh!t

:P

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:47 PM
See now Oinker Agrees with me that Rawrior has no clue to even what his first name is

Cyra
05-09-2010, 09:49 PM
Well two people agree with me that Cyra and Darkstrand both agree that Rawrior and Chapy are bad
Didn't say Chapy was bad, just said that he's open and funny. If you wish to get a serious shoutcast they're probably not the best combo, but since I'm not after a serious shoutcast per se they're just a relief, something different, fun.

So really it'll just depend on why you're viewing it which one you'll prefer, you can't compare them due to the very different behaviour.
Personally, I'd say I prefer the Chapy+Zndr combo over the Breaky + Hunter/Phil combo.

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:51 PM
I completely agree with you Cyra

D`Pak
05-09-2010, 09:51 PM
Casters themselves tend to be horrible players, as if they were any good they would be playing instead of casting. Point in case = Insane_rabbi. The other ones at least know they are bad. As a result, they tend to spread around their pub knowledge as absolute fact (at least Rabbi/chapy do; breaky knows hes a noob and says that he "questions" builds, but understands he cannot criticize players who know far more than him). Hence, most decent players scoff at these casts, while the mediocre ones enjoy them which is great and all. Solution: Get some pro player like Kaution to assist with the "knowledge" part of the casts. You'll notice that most sportscasters were ex-players, so they have a very detailed knowledge of the game. Not random kids who blow at the game, like Rabbi/breaky, so if you watch casts don't expect to get knowledge so much as some entertainment value.

awwwwFRIENDs
05-09-2010, 09:52 PM
See now Oinker Agrees with me that Rawrior has no clue to even what his first name is

i was referring to you double post nonsense. wake up mate have a coffee :o

Anyway this sort of topic should be on the honcast forum no? they do have a forum now :)

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:55 PM
Breaky Is good when it comes to explaining team fights and such, Maybe just having a top tier player co-casting each cast would be a great addition

GoSu``
05-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Seems to me rawrior was straight on topic and your just gettin mad a good person should be able to get out of the 1500. Brackets without pubstomping? Kk go on

Rawrior
05-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Casters themselves tend to be horrible players, as if they were any good they would be playing instead of casting. Point in case = Insane_rabbi. The other ones at least know they are bad. As a result, they tend to spread around their pub knowledge as absolute fact (at least Rabbi/chapy do; breaky knows hes a noob and says that he "questions" builds, but understands he cannot criticize players who know far more than him). Hence, most decent players scoff at these casts, while the mediocre ones enjoy them which is great and all. Solution: Get some pro player like Kaution to assist with the "knowledge" part of the casts. You'll notice that most sportscasters were ex-players, so they have a very detailed knowledge of the game. Not random kids who blow at the game, like Rabbi/breaky, so if you watch casts don't expect to get knowledge so much as some entertainment value.

On the contrary chapy is a good player, he has comparable competitive experience actually playing on a team to Kaution.

In fact our team back in the day when Kaution was on top teams(D55, 4DR), chapy and my team, stfugaming, beat them in multiple tournaments. Including the first GR invitational.

Chapy knows his stuff as a player much like Kaution, not just as a spectator like breaky.

RancHero
05-09-2010, 09:59 PM
Seems to me rawrior was straight on topic and your just gettin mad a good person should be able to get out of the 1500. Brackets without pubstomping? Kk go on
Once again another baddie getting off topic

Skellington
05-09-2010, 10:14 PM
I think they just struggle with the same thing Breaky struggled with for a while. Expanding the vocabulary. I'm not sure which one it is but he likes to say "Wow, Woooooooooooooow." After the Breaky bingo thread he seemed to realize some of his phrases that he repeated too many times and began adding more variety.

Earthyy
05-09-2010, 10:20 PM
chapy's screams are funny, but sometimes he fails to see painfully obvious things.

Insane_Rabbi
05-10-2010, 02:14 AM
On topic - Chapy is a great caster with amazing game knowledge - Great friend too

Off topic - Add for 5's D`Pak - Straight Bashing my ability to play is quite a statement.

Deductive
05-10-2010, 02:26 AM
Its' ok we all know I am the best :P but seriously chapy knows his stuff like Rawrior said he played in STFU or shh and beat kautions team back in the day he definitely knows what hes doing :D

thrake
05-10-2010, 02:33 AM
I actually happen to like zndr + chapy.

Kolapz
05-10-2010, 03:54 AM
Straight Bashing my ability to play is quite a statement.

A true statement, I'm afraid.

RancHero
05-10-2010, 06:10 AM
My epenis is twice as big than any of yours

Punishment
05-10-2010, 06:14 AM
OP is a moron

MADVlLLAlN
05-10-2010, 06:27 AM
OP successfully trolled everyone in this thread

fixd

skit
05-10-2010, 06:50 AM
I actually found their casts to be much less professional than Breaky. This might appeal to some, but to me if I wanted to hear random people I don't know **** talk, I would just play a pub.

chapy
05-10-2010, 08:07 AM
personally I believe he is ignorant and forgets he is casting a HoN game and not a DoTa game.
Explains everything right there really. Another non-dota player who feels I insult his mother when I call astrolabe a mek, get over it please.

Btw, tell your mom happy mothers day for me, and that I'm running late tonight.

Bdiz
05-10-2010, 08:16 AM
Explains everything right there really. Another non-dota player who feels I insult his mother when I call astrolabe a mek, get over it please.

Btw, tell your mom happy mothers day for me, and that I'm running late tonight.

Perhaps these are the type of comments that lead the community to believe you're less professional than other casters? If you feel you're being trolled (I mean, it's the internet someone is trolling someone else at pretty much all times) then take it with a grain of salt, however if its criticism you could respond better to it, instead of using a condescending tone and insulting the person that just criticized you.

chapy
05-10-2010, 09:04 AM
Perhaps these are the type of comments that lead the community to believe you're less professional than other casters? If you feel you're being trolled (I mean, it's the internet someone is trolling someone else at pretty much all times) then take it with a grain of salt, however if its criticism you could respond better to it, instead of using a condescending tone and insulting the person that just criticized you.
All true.

But I have no qualms trolling a troll.

Unfortunately it's quite impossible to truly depict an honest statement over the internet, but for what it's worth, I honestly could not care less regarding comments about my professionalism, and that's not because I don't care about professionalism, it's quite the opposite, I treat every cast seriously. I don't troll on a cast, I don't needlessly swear, I treat every cast seriously and with the intent to provide more in-depth information than what is apparent surface deep. If I make someone laugh than does that diminish a casts authenticity? I think not. I know that I do these things, and as such, I don't take very many critiques to heart, and you can't really blaim me because...

And On a side note Chapy shouldnt even cast
-Shitty Mic
-Never knows what he is talking about
-not knowing his own name at times
-and never knows knows which characters are being used
..99% of critiques are of this calibre. There are, of course, valid critiques and those are always appreciated by casters, negatives and positives alike. But as is apparent here, trolls will troll, haters will hate, etc.

And to repond to an obvious troll with a (gasp) negative tone is honestly not something I am going to lose sleep over. =/

Radioman
05-10-2010, 09:15 AM
Its ok chapy. I had a good time casting with you cause you were always an excellent caster and fun to cast with. You're the reason I wake up in the morning. You and my morning glory.

Fidel
05-10-2010, 09:20 AM
"hey your bad"

It's like he's trying to get his attention first.. so it goes something like this.

"Hey"
*rwar guy turns around* "Me?"
"Your bad"

*back on topic

I think all the HonCast casters are great. But i like to think has Breaky as the Main caster, and anyone else is colour commenting with him. I just like breaky's voice i guess (does this make me a tad gay? it feels good). But at first i hated chapy's voice, now however it's grown on me. As for zndr, he's always done the same role in my opinion, so can't really complain about him.

But, Chappy and Zndr are good casters, as for professionalism on the forums, i think they too are entitled to express their own opinions in the manner they see fit. whether or not he is representing honcast shouldn't matter.

My two cents (pennies in england, sounds less cool though)

PuK
05-10-2010, 09:27 AM
Chapy is a great caster. Imo the best, because, for exemple, unlike alot of other casters, he's not telling you what's happening, what you can see with your own eyes, but he's telling you why it happened.

I personnally don't fancy zndr that much because sometime, he criticize players decisions like they've made a huge mistake, when it's clear that he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. (Ex: Saying that it's a huge mistake that Hanni did not put one point in fayde's 3rd skill in early lvl.) He just seem to not have enough knowledge of the competitive game in comparaison with other co-casters of honcast. And that really hurts his casting. Breaky doesn't pretend to know what he's talking about.
Imo, he shouldn't be used in the role of the "expert", as apart from what i said, he's doing rly good.

05-10-2010, 10:12 AM
Off topic - Add for 5's D`Pak - Straight Bashing my ability to play is quite a statement.
What happened yesterday?:rolleyes:


Explains everything right there really. Another non-dota player who feels I insult his mother when I call astrolabe a mek, get over it please.
Well, I admit it would be nice to listen to a HoN shoutcast with HoN visuals rather than a DotA one with HoN visuals.

Other than that I much rather listen to Chapy than to Breakycpk. Chapy covers the situations better and generally has some background info over the choices made.

Samich
05-10-2010, 10:36 AM
i liked xndr and chapys casts more then breakys.

I prefered the casual style of them over breakys more commentary thing. Nothing against breakys its just personal preference.

Xndr and chapys was like i was sitting on a sofa next to them having a chat. Incidently if one of you could use my name and talk to me in that kind of context on a cast it would really help me climax.


Oh and im totally better then anyone in this thread

Takendown2
05-10-2010, 10:47 AM
I LIKE SIXY AND CARMALIZER :D

Peronally though, i think all of the casters are great even though sometimes they seem to miss details i picked up, they have to be aware of everything, not just specific item build etc.

Fidel
05-10-2010, 10:48 AM
Oh and im totally better then anyone in this thread

You wanna check my PSR then ?

...oh wait it's lower.

SoulMeetBody
05-10-2010, 11:05 AM
Dont feed the trolls guys.. we all know chapy's the best caster.

Pyros
05-10-2010, 11:15 AM
The breaky fan stuff really is out of hand, he has a good casting voice and a good flow so he can keep commenting action packed fights, however his knowledge of the game is pretty limited and he has these premade expressions he uses every single cast that can get quite annoying. Also, he tends to reverse sentence construction very often. "Escaping with 32hp is Glacius".

He's not a great caster, he's ok. Chapy was doing casts before breaky, and they were very good, and they still are. Ok sometimes he uses dota names, this is not dota, waah waah, fact is, if you don't know dota, you get surprised by overused strats that were already common practice before hon even existed. Happens often with breaky, he wonders why hero x builds item y or take skills in a different order than usual, when they're common old builds from dota. Hell sometimes it's stuff he casted in hon games already but he forgot(how many times is he going to wonder what interupted a TP when dsham was in the fight?).

Not saying chapy is better than breaky, but breaky certainly is not a god. And in terms of game knowledge, chapy is definitely better than breaky, even though sometimes he struggles finding hon names.

Fidel
05-10-2010, 11:24 AM
The breaky fan stuff really is out of hand, he has a good casting voice and a good flow so he can keep commenting action packed fights, however his knowledge of the game is pretty limited and he has these premade expressions he uses every single cast that can get quite annoying. Also, he tends to reverse sentence construction very often. "Escaping with 32hp is Glacius".

He's not a great caster, he's ok. Chapy was doing casts before breaky, and they were very good, and they still are. Ok sometimes he uses dota names, this is not dota, waah waah, fact is, if you don't know dota, you get surprised by overused strats that were already common practice before hon even existed. Happens often with breaky, he wonders why hero x builds item y or take skills in a different order than usual, when they're common old builds from dota. Hell sometimes it's stuff he casted in hon games already but he forgot(how many times is he going to wonder what interupted a TP when dsham was in the fight?).

Not saying chapy is better than breaky, but breaky certainly is not a god. And in terms of game knowledge, chapy is definitely better than breaky, even though sometimes he struggles finding hon names.

Breaky was doing Counter Strike casts i believe he mentioned.

Also Reverse sentance construction can occur in lots of people when you are rushing sentances.

I do agree with your last sentance, but as breaky never really played competitivley can't blame him :P

jizzfarmer
05-10-2010, 12:27 PM
Chapy is a great caster, I love listening to him get pissed off when people do stupid things during casts. He and sixy+carmelizer put out the type of casts that are actually entertaining to watch; they make jokes but still give good insight to the game. Who cares if he uses DOTA terms? He's getting better about it, and when you play a game for that long it's hard to forget the names that easily.


Zndr sucks.

RancHero
05-10-2010, 08:37 PM
Ok this is over Im done arguing chapy your an ok caster
everyone can go to sleep happy tonight

Jocke`
05-10-2010, 08:46 PM
how did you guys just get blatantly trolled for 3 pages?

awayish
05-10-2010, 08:57 PM
i think this entire thread is an elaborate hoax.

AeiOwnedU
05-10-2010, 10:00 PM
Sigh,

RancHero... I'm not gonna dignify anything you've said with a worthy response. However, l2play this game. You'll further understand casts with your newly founded knowledge.

RancHero
05-10-2010, 10:11 PM
Thanks Ael
I appreciated knowledgeable advice

Jjang
05-10-2010, 10:29 PM
Lol what? Chapy just commented a game for me and he did fine by himself. He keyed in on important things, and didn't miss important events/battles. I did want to defend him more, but that comment he made about someone's mom or whatever just ruined it lol. Can you imagine John Madden saying that? lol

VeNuM
05-10-2010, 11:54 PM
Thread closed.

If you have any constructive critique for any casters out there, I'm sure they will take on board anything you have to say to them if you do it in the correct manner. Posting things in public like this is never really a good thing either, especially when its done like this.

Please use the Private Message function, sorry that I didnt pay enough attention to this thread - any future threads like this will be deleted. They serve little to no purpose.