1v1 Cup

[spr1te]

So i want to organize a 1v1 cup.More info will be released later, but for now the rules:
1)Mode is All pick, each player can ban two heroes.The bans will be 1-2-1, Legion always banning first.Then at the picking phase, you will both agree to pick a hero at the same time, also before picking it write the name of the hero in teamchat for verification purposes if there will be any argue about someone picking 2 seconds later to try to counter(a screenshot will be needed).
2)You are limited and i mean it only to mid lane and neutrals.You can wander to other lanes BUT do not atack any creeps, even if a tower goes down.Any break of this rule means instant loss.
3)The games will be played on europe servers if one of the players is from EU, else you can play whatever.
4)Any break of the rules will be demonstrated with a screenshot
That's it for now, more info will come.I advise you to not post unnecesary commentaries.A reply should be posted if you have an opinion or if you want to join.
I want to see how many of you will be interested in this.So if you want to participate pls post.Also i may find another site host for this cup, because it's harder on a forum.
Hf

[spr1te]

Please don't comment if you have absolutely no intention to join and if you autoatack!
Also if you are below 13 delete HoN.



Is this a joke thread?
This is NOT a 1v1 game.
This is your opinion and of the majority sadly.But when you want to perfect your last hitting and lane control skills you play 1v1.For me, it's fun as hell.I'd rather play 1v1 than play 5v5 with some random pubbers.Or play with a clan, but in HoN didn't found a good one yet, hihihi.

[spr1te]

English is my second language.I respect your opinion, but i don't understand your hate against my idea?What is your problem if some people like 1v1?As for myself, i got enough experience and i'm just looking for a challenge, is this so repulsive for you guys?

[Euphoria]

I call defiler, every game. Let's do this.

[spr1te]

That's why you got 2 bans and that's why you choose at the same time.To balance the fact that this game is not meant for 1v1.Is this so hard to understand FFS?
Why are you even talking about skill?When was the last time you looked at your stats?

[Shixax]

PPl it's really simple, you can either join the tourney or don't. You, for no reason other than being an ass, tell other ppl this idea is shitty.

I can see 2 reasons why many ppl would want to play this

1.- They don't have a big amount of friends or good players to play with, might not even have 5 ppl to play with, so they are tired of pubs and want a high lv tourney (or as high as a 1vs1 can get cuz I agree that HoN/DotA is a team game)

2.- They would like to test their skills as individuals rather than as a team( This isn't a sound reason, except when combined with reason number 1)

So if you don't like this idea or see no benefit from it, just close this thread and keep on surfing.

I would like to join this tourney btw.

[spr1te]

Shixax i could not have explained this better.Gj for your post(and logic btw, which other people seem to don't have:)) ;)

[Decency]

I would also be interested in joining.

The people who are badmouthing this are fools. If you don't want to play in an organized competition, don't play.


Also: what if both people try to pick the same hero?

[spr1te]

I would also be interested in joining.

The people who are badmouthing this are fools. If you don't want to play in an organized competition, don't play.


Also: what if both people try to pick the same hero?
Yes i thought of that.If they try to pick same hero, the game will be remaked with the same bans and the hero in cause automatically banned.I think it's a good compromise.Repeat this untill different heroes picked.
Ofc this whole cup thing will be a rather tedious thing, but we are playing in an organized "event" and winners will be anounced in this topic, if that's a decent motivation i hope.

[HellFire69]

If he wants to host a 1v1 tournament let him. You don't have to join so flaming him is really immature.

[Weebles]

Is this a joke thread?
This is NOT a 1v1 game.

No it isn't. However...

WoW is primarily a PvE, not PvP game, yet a lot of people on WoW play only PvP.

Hockey is a team sport, yet a lot of players compete in singles skills competitions. (Speed, accuracy, etc).

HoN and dota are team games, yet a lot of people enjoy testing their skills and playing in 1v1 tournaments.

Don't tell other people how to play or assume that your way is superior.

People do a lot of different things in life for a lot of different reasons.

[spr1te]

Guys thanks for the support but really i am used to flames/curses and all of these things.Wtf i played dota, and by far the HoN community is more educated, mainly because the average age is above 18 if i'm correct.Ofc there are still a lot of flamers, but waaaay better than dota garena/bnet pubs.

[Teuton]

I am getting scout for sure

[Weenoman]

The hero imbalances will be too great. The game will go LONG and any hero that scales well with gear is going to be a nightmare, assuming the instant win heros like defiler get banned.

Go ahead and pick a caster, I'm gonna pick jereziah. Go ahead and pick electrician, to counter my jerry, I'll pick any decent agi carry and get a difusal blade + warpcleft, or a nuker, or whatever else beats elect.

If you have someone pick first, he loses. If you randomize the hero picks, the winner will be based on luck. I know people like to play their own thing, but this is like playing pick the highest card, then sitting down and staring at your opponents higher card for 45 minutes while he beats you.

[Radon_]

The hero imbalances will be too great. The game will go LONG and any hero that scales well with gear is going to be a nightmare, assuming the instant win heros like defiler get banned.

Go ahead and pick a caster, I'm gonna pick jereziah. Go ahead and pick electrician, to counter my jerry, I'll pick any decent agi carry and get a difusal blade + warpcleft, or a nuker, or whatever else beats elect.

If you have someone pick first, he loses. If you randomize the hero picks, the winner will be based on luck. I know people like to play their own thing, but this is like playing pick the highest card, then sitting down and staring at your opponents higher card for 45 minutes while he beats you.

I think that's pretty accurate. The heroes counter each other in a rock, paper, scissors fashion. In a team of 5 you have to work together in order to cover each hero's weakness. In a 1on1 however you can't do that and most games would be decided by hero picks alone.

But go ahead, make your cup. I will watch and see if my prediction is correct.

[iom3ga]

Is this a joke thread?
This is NOT a 1v1 game.
Yet they added in an option for 1v1.

The game original was a team based game but if your playing a 1v1 with the same heroes, how does one not think that skills are not involved.

It all ends up on how to out smart one another. Unless of course one player is just on a totally different level and gets obliterated and demands a rematch. If players are going to just stick to saying its a team game, that's fine but to think that 1v1 are useless in general then they are stupid.

[Glorify1]

Does this cup come with a straw? If so, is it one of those awesome crazy straws?

[_M_M_]

1 vs 1 need a dedicated mode (-om) or a dedicated 1 lane-Map.
Current duels are lame, as bot & Top lanes get pushed past a certain delay.

[winterfresh1]

I like the idea. HoN duels. :o

[dewatempur]

1v1? I play any INT hero and Make Codex.
gg in less than 10

[Glorify1]

1v1? I play any INT hero and Make Codex.
gg in less than 10

You'd get wrecked easy.

[TurpinoS]

Okay, might I propose something for that tournament in order to fix the biggest problems.

I think a 1v1 game should be to First Blood
(Since this is rather quick, make Best of 3 games for every rounds)

With that said :
No problem of OP pushing heroes
No problem of side lanes getting pushed.
Quick-fast paced games

[spr1te]

It might work, altough i need more opinions about this.

[Glorify1]

1v1's are usually decided by firstblood, so it's generally accepted that first blood is the end of the game. However, this is normally in no-powerup versions of the game because runes are extremely imbalanced in 1v1s.

The problem I see with it is a lack of interest, and overall lack of 1v1 heroes in the game.

[_M_M_]

Also, an other suggestion:

Template duels with predefined heroes, something that people believe relatively balanced.
I don't really have a clue atm, but make it like choosing between (for example):

Arachna VS Valykrie
or
SwitfBlade VS Accursed
or

Something like that, templates duel!

[Krangry]

Also, an other suggestion:

Template duels with predefined heroes, something that people believe relatively balanced.
I don't really have a clue atm, but make it like choosing between (for example):

Arachna VS Valykrie
or
SwitfBlade VS Accursed
or

Something like that, templates duel!

I agree, or you could make it set rounds IE. valk vs valk, arach vs arach, tort vs tort, pyro vs pyro and so on, that way there is no hero advantage

[SmokeShow]

1v1 is so f'n boring in this game... What heroes can I think of that would make this even feasible?

[iom3ga]

I agree, or you could make it set rounds IE. valk vs valk, arach vs arach, tort vs tort, pyro vs pyro and so on, that way there is no hero advantage
You could do that, or have a 2 Games. First one, bother player chooses the hero they desire and clash. Only mid, no powerups. First blood will be declared the winner. Second game, the players will use the same heroes but swapped sides. If one side had Moon Queen, then the other player will now use him, and vice versa with the other hero. If one player wins both games, then they would be the victor. If they both won a game each, consider either having that won the quickest the winner or something along those lines.

[stevefox]

Be nice guys...

[Rusherf4g]

my post got deleted.
i provided constructive criticism. YOu cant play 1v1's without using the same hero.
and having two games would be long and time consuming.
usually who ever gets bloodlust in 1v1 wins anyway

[Puck]

You should make this duplicate hero mode (same picks required) and find a way to deal with the fact that side lanes are going to get pushed instead of just ignoring it.

[MakAA]

i wanna join =)

[xavus]

I wanna join this 1v1 tourney

[spr1te]

Still there are not enough players...

[vorador]

1v1 dota/HoN is a waste of time. Have fun if its even possible.

[zykIon`b]

Sure. Just because everyone is being *******s, I'll participate.

[Weenoman]

Trust me theres a big number of us who are trying to not see the fatal flaws with this tourny. I'd rather have the idea work so it would be a fun diversion.

There's some people who enjoy raining on the parade, I'm just saying, "hey, a flood is coming, you might want to rethink your parade, yo"

[Colinthetank]

I don't see how forcing someone to be one of eight heroes is fair. Hero vs Hero it might be. But the player makes the hero, not the other way around.

Ex: Pugna in Dota.
Pugna is a very low hp, insanely high int nuker/support. He has the highest base damage in game. Ever think to get an assault cuirass + Burize + vanguard? I never did until i went 1v1 against him as POTM (Valk) and got my butt handed to me. I figured I could just get an arcane ring and spam starfall/arrows and eventually kill him. He waited to see my items and with a courier bought magic armour. Then I went pure physical damage, he countered this with a vanguard. I was pure offensive, he was pure defensive. Over time he got attack damage/speed items and harassed me out of the lane until he was significantly higher level and farmed and then killed me and pushed to win. Point being, you should let people choose their own heroes with no limitations. If you choose a melee hero and they go Arachna and just kite you, well that's your fault for choosing that hero. And if the melee hero player is good enough then he won't let that happen or get items that negate it.

1v1 is just about adapting to your enemy in such a way that would allow you to have the upperhand in one more categories: Base attack Harass/CS/Denies/Lane pushes/surivivablity (hp regen and or lifesteal)/ Spell or ability harass (having high dmg nukes with high mana regen for example).

Also: The whole "play to firstblood" thing. It well, sucks. I did a 1v1 against a much better player who went 9-0 against me. 45 minutes into the game, he pushes my base and I was able to with my third tower kill him. He has a 70 second respawn time and can't buy back. I pushed 3 towers in his lane and the melee rax. I constantly harassed him while he tried to defend pushes and he became overwhelmed and I won the game. Double my CS/Denies and nine times the hero kills of me. The game is not over until the fat lady sings, and she is not singing when you get firstblooded.

[Darkstrand]

Any and all 1v1's should be same hero and no runes

Oh and first blood is the winner, not pushing to their throne. That takes too long

Just my thoughts

[TurpinoS]

I don't see how forcing someone to be one of eight heroes is fair. Hero vs Hero it might be. But the player makes the hero, not the other way around.

Ex: Pugna in Dota.
Pugna is a very low hp, insanely high int nuker/support. He has the highest base damage in game. Ever think to get an assault cuirass + Burize + vanguard? I never did until i went 1v1 against him as POTM (Valk) and got my butt handed to me. I figured I could just get an arcane ring and spam starfall/arrows and eventually kill him. He waited to see my items and with a courier bought magic armour. Then I went pure physical damage, he countered this with a vanguard. I was pure offensive, he was pure defensive. Over time he got attack damage/speed items and harassed me out of the lane until he was significantly higher level and farmed and then killed me and pushed to win. Point being, you should let people choose their own heroes with no limitations. If you choose a melee hero and they go Arachna and just kite you, well that's your fault for choosing that hero. And if the melee hero player is good enough then he won't let that happen or get items that negate it.

1v1 is just about adapting to your enemy in such a way that would allow you to have the upperhand in one more categories: Base attack Harass/CS/Denies/Lane pushes/surivivablity (hp regen and or lifesteal)/ Spell or ability harass (having high dmg nukes with high mana regen for example).

Also: The whole "play to firstblood" thing. It well, sucks. I did a 1v1 against a much better player who went 9-0 against me. 45 minutes into the game, he pushes my base and I was able to with my third tower kill him. He has a 70 second respawn time and can't buy back. I pushed 3 towers in his lane and the melee rax. I constantly harassed him while he tried to defend pushes and he became overwhelmed and I won the game. Double my CS/Denies and nine times the hero kills of me. The game is not over until the fat lady sings, and she is not singing when you get firstblooded.

1.So, who picks first ? It has to be same heroes or pick a the same time for that reason, countering is way too ****ing easy and one has to pick first, useless idea.

2. A 1v1 thats not to firstblood could last for 3 hours, thats completely ridiculous, as you said, your opponent was WAY better then you, but you still won, fail idea.

[spr1te]

I pretty much guarantee you that after 20 minutes had passed the one that dies will lose at least 2 towers, even a rax.Then it's gg.

[Halo1]

It should not end at first blood... Maybe a set number of kills but definitely not that.... I have won so many times even while getting fbed...

Definitely should be np... powerups are stupid in 1v1s.

And as far as hero matchups go... I like either the mirror match 2/3 or having both people pick in the last second to make counter picking extremely hard.

Also what starting gold will be used?

[TurpinoS]

I pretty much guarantee you that after 20 minutes had passed the one that dies will lose at least 2 towers, even a rax.Then it's gg.

Have you ever played a 1v1 ? I played a **** ton of them and they never lasted under an hour (even with 20 deaths in game), pushing alone is long, especially since after you killed someone, you normally dont have much pushing power left.


And its normally common that 1v1's end at First blood because a real full game of Dota in 1v1 is totally absurd imo.

[KooKy4DeaD]

hi gogo 1x1 KooKy4DeaD =)

msn laerciolidera@hotmail.com

[spr1te]

Have you ever played a 1v1 ? I played a **** ton of them and they never lasted under an hour (even with 20 deaths in game), pushing alone is long, especially since after you killed someone, you normally dont have much pushing power left.

Christ sake with who did you played 1v1?Maybe with someone who makes agi threads on every hero(even intels).How the **** did you get to 20 deaths ?In a 1v1 a death means a lost tower, or even more.If you are so noob that you cannot push then stop polluting my thread.Kthxbye

[Holyfire]

when are we gonna do this ? ._.

[Sunforger]

I would like to participate. Played a few random 1v1s - looks like everyone is a hopeless noob in this kind of games.
Also the games should definitely be played to the elimination of both center barracks and tower, not to the throne pushing. Killing last two towers in 1v1 can take extra 5-20 min to play if you not dominate completely.

[TurpinoS]

Christ sake with who did you played 1v1?Maybe with someone who makes agi threads on every hero(even intels).How the **** did you get to 20 deaths ?In a 1v1 a death means a lost tower, or even more.If you are so noob that you cannot push then stop polluting my thread.Kthxbye


I played a huge load of 1v1's, especially 1v1 unvouch's for leagues. Its not about polluting your thread, its about giving you my personnal experience. If you decide to do a 1v1 tourney to the throne, defiler and pollywog with puzzleboxes will be the only way to go, no skills in there. (Or if you do same heroes, its going to be puzzleboxes on everyone)

Ill gladly 1v1 you anytime though if you think im trash :D

[Helgeran1]

Allow duplicate heroes.

[iOverdose]

im also interested in join this tourny..

[UltimaXtreme]

So i want to organize a 1v1 cup.More info will be released later, but for now the rules:
1)Mode is All pick, each player can ban two heroes.The bans will be 1-2-1, Legion always banning first.Then at the picking phase, you will both agree to pick a hero at the same time, also before picking it write the name of the hero in teamchat for verification purposes if there will be any argue about someone picking 2 seconds later to try to counter(a screenshot will be needed).
2)You are limited and i mean it only to mid lane and neutrals.You can wander to other lanes BUT do not atack any creeps, even if a tower goes down.Any break of this rule means instant loss.
3)The games will be played on europe servers if one of the players is from EU, else you can play whatever.
4)Any break of the rules will be demonstrated with a screenshot
That's it for now, more info will come.I advise you to not post unnecesary commentaries.A reply should be posted if you have an opinion or if you want to join.
I want to see how many of you will be interested in this.So if you want to participate pls post.Also i may find another site host for this cup, because it's harder on a forum.
Hf

1 picks axe
2 picks arachna

axe leaves before game starts.

[Holyfire]

Turpinos add me let s 1 on 1

u r **** ;|

[LOLKLUMPY]

Playing HoN or DotA 1v1 is a poor decision. They are both team games and should be played as such. A 1v1 situation would more than likely be incredibly boring and rely heavily on the heroes than the skill of the players. There are too many imbalances in a 1v1 situation to make it feasible.

You'd get wrecked easy.

1. Select Puppet Master
2. Level up to 6
3. Make codex as high as you can
4. Hit hit, fist skill, ulti, use codex on puppet that spawns, GG:)

[VoltaiN]

succubus, i win :D

[Devilhate]

I don't see how forcing someone to be one of eight heroes is fair. Hero vs Hero it might be. But the player makes the hero, not the other way around.

Ex: Pugna in Dota.
Pugna is a very low hp, insanely high int nuker/support. He has the highest base damage in game. Ever think to get an assault cuirass + Burize + vanguard? I never did until i went 1v1 against him as POTM (Valk) and got my butt handed to me. I figured I could just get an arcane ring and spam starfall/arrows and eventually kill him. He waited to see my items and with a courier bought magic armour. Then I went pure physical damage, he countered this with a vanguard. I was pure offensive, he was pure defensive. Over time he got attack damage/speed items and harassed me out of the lane until he was significantly higher level and farmed and then killed me and pushed to win. Point being, you should let people choose their own heroes with no limitations. If you choose a melee hero and they go Arachna and just kite you, well that's your fault for choosing that hero. And if the melee hero player is good enough then he won't let that happen or get items that negate it.

1v1 is just about adapting to your enemy in such a way that would allow you to have the upperhand in one more categories: Base attack Harass/CS/Denies/Lane pushes/surivivablity (hp regen and or lifesteal)/ Spell or ability harass (having high dmg nukes with high mana regen for example).

Also: The whole "play to firstblood" thing. It well, sucks. I did a 1v1 against a much better player who went 9-0 against me. 45 minutes into the game, he pushes my base and I was able to with my third tower kill him. He has a 70 second respawn time and can't buy back. I pushed 3 towers in his lane and the melee rax. I constantly harassed him while he tried to defend pushes and he became overwhelmed and I won the game. Double my CS/Denies and nine times the hero kills of me. The game is not over until the fat lady sings, and she is not singing when you get firstblooded.

oR WHAT if he picks succubus and she perma disables you take every creepkill uses arcane ring to regen mana when lvl 6 she uses ulti and your fbed YAY!!! Totally fun and fair. cause succubus is not the most evil 1on1 hero ever.

[SolidStroke]

All of you who have insta-kill characters, ever notice that many people have ideas of what's good 1v1 and isn't? Also, if you fear complete dominance by a character such as Succubus, ban her. S'why you get two.

That said, count me in. Add me to friends if you want to practice, also.

The process is easy:

- Create 1v1 AP game.
- Allow Duplicate Heroes.
--- Hit Start
--- In XX minutes you get before the game starts, do the bans.
--- Player 1 must finish his bans by XXX
--- Player 2 must finish his bans by XXX
--- Player 1 must finish his last ban by XXX
(or just do bans in the lobby)
--- Select your character right before the game starts (no need for counting down or "picking" at the same time. Pick your character at 1 or 2 seconds left.

[Swell`Chall]

Count me in.

[FajL]

ill participate aswell

[RandomDan]

I'd like to participate. Do we have a count on how many are up for this atm?

[Kolapz]

Wow, nice necro 5 months later.

[snizz]

Lol. A tad bit late.

I hope this died. HoN isn't meant for 1v1. Unbalanced. People who side with 1v1 are just people who are sick of pubbing.

So, I invite you to find a clan!

[BIGDice]

disable runes imo aswell

[Vodka]

Get puzzlebox on any character with a decent slow/snare and win.

EDIT: OMG, epic necros