Staff of the Master (Ults look cooler)

[Dabearsown]

Would you like to see the SotM make ults look cooler and more distinguished, so when you get Staff of the Masters besides from the better ult, you also get to look at a cooler ult.

For example, on Pyro S2 could make the ult be blue flames because its better and HOTTER, or it could create a BIGGER explosion or something cool like that.

Another example could be on ThunderBringer, if you get SotM his ult creates a "roll of thunder" noise and could be much louder and darker.

These may be terrible examples, but if S2 developed cooler ults to distinguish someone with SotM over someone without they would do a much better job.

Vote yes if you want COOLER ULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:accu: = Changes his ulti fire-colour to a distinctive purple and white-glowing flame + gives him a more blue-toned firecolour
:andr: = Her body gets alittle more "sparkly" + a small outline of the swapped heroes (Andro + xxx) staying for 2 seconds after swap
:chro: = A more transparent version of the bubble + slightly toned with the colour of the team
:deme: = The clouds turns into a very dark toned cloud-color, and a small crash of lightning-sound is played.
:devo: = More gore!
:glac: = The ground around him gets totally frozen visually + the storm is itensified
:magm: = Slightly chars the ground around him, gets more charred the longer the ulti affects the same piece of ground
:moon: = Makes the affected targets glow slightly, and even more if hit multiple times
:nymp: = Small blue orbs will occasionally fly out from her body, like once every 5-15 seconds
:ophe: = A green shockwave pulses out from her, very brief
:phar: = 2 grey lines, and depending on what they hit, his movements and the beam will turn into that colour
:plag: = Color turns into a contrasted black/white + if hit, enemies turns slightly pale for a short duration of time
:poll: = Lasers will get thicker and turn green + the wards will get another model, eventually with a "shoop da whoop"-face
:pyro: = Will yell "I'm the firestarter" instead of the normal + the resulting explosion will double in size
:ramp: = A small, green lump will fly in the opposite direction of where you hit + a trail of blood will be left from where your victim moved in relation to the horned strike auto-proc (find the joke btw)
:slit: = Covers the ground in green residue/Colours the water green
:soulr: = If the opponent dies due to the ulti, the grim reaper will grab the soul and drag it into the nether world in a great doomsday-like portal animation
:succ: = A pink ring will be placed on the ground below the victim, with pink residue and small, purple hearts flying up the air
:swif: = Random bodyparts will fly after each slash
:thun: = Rolling uber-thunder will play + and a MASSIVE bolt of lightning will hit, leaving a little black dot where you stood the moment the lightning hit you
:vood: = His wards gets bigger and looks more scary
:tort: = Denser AoE-graphic, and small eerie faces pops out, with a tortured and despaired look
:witc: = Says "boom, headshot" in a quiet manner + a matrix-like animation added
:wret: = More bats, and the animation lingers in the hit area for 2 seconds
:chip: = Saws gets a rusty finish + his projectiles will get a more steel-like finish, with the tips covered in oil

Thanks to [iTq]Asrial for these wonderful suggestions!!!

[Dabearsown1]

YES! lets get some cooler ults!!!!!!!!

[Dethlak]

I think SotM affects on heroes a bit (atleast on some of them). For example when Soul Reaper ultis he shouts "Youre soul is mine!" and with SotM his voice is much louder (anyone noticed). But anyways I suppor this idea for cool effects!

[MADD411]

Who wouldn't say yes to this?

[Cavallero]

Who wouldn't say yes to this?

I can't think of anyone..

[Zulukas]

Would you like to see the SotM make ults look cooler and more distinguished, so when you get Staff of the Masters besides from the better ult, you also get to look at a cooler ult.

For example, on Pyro S2 could make the ult be blue flames because its better and HOTTER, or it could create a BIGGER explosion or something cool like that.

Another example could be on ThunderBringer, if you get SotM his ult creates a "roll of thunder" noise and could be much louder and darker.

These may be terrible examples, but if S2 developed cooler ults to distinguish someone with SotM over someone without they would do a much better job.

Vote yes if you want COOLER ULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think a suggestion like this could be made into a modification. I don't think it would be all that difficult considering you would just be making a mod that checks to see if you have a specific item in your inventory and then just goes a replaces an animation file with another.

although I have to admit I would like to see a better animation for pyro's ultimate other than a speedy firebolt, I think it would look cooler if there were multiple firebolts that flew out and they were white hot.

Maybe demented shamans ulty could have denser lightning clouds and spew lightning bolts to the ground

[Dabearsown]

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[netherflame]

It'd be nice if they did what dota had done and add that little extra visual on the hero when they have staff.

[Aweq]

It'd be nice if they did what dota had done and add that little extra visual on the hero when they have staff.

Isn't that already in game? I seem to remember their weapons becoming blue or so?

[Dabearsown]

The Staff makes ur weapon blue, and isnt really noticable, but it doesnt do anything to the animation and it should be way more defined. and make ults look amazing!!

[Duey]

voted yes, but this is the kinda thing they should work on when they literally have nothing better to do, like balancing, making new heroes, stabilizing servers etc.

[Dabearsown]

i definately agree that they should stabalize the servers first, but after they do that this wouldn't be hard at all to do and wouldnt really take long. and its a fantastic improvement.

[Colt2]

Nice **** dude! Good idea!

[Killroy]

I love how in dota ogre magi (blacksmith) gets burning hands and zeus (thunderbringer) has lightning around his hands, etc.... So T-up.

[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

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[Colt2]

Good idea sir

[MiiLL]

People... if you buy SotM on thunderbringer/pyromancer yo u can see that they alrdy have this <.<

[Dabearsown]

Mill is completely incorrect, go into a practice game spawn two Thunderbringers one with a staff and one without, then ult with them both and they are exactly the same. So please don't listen to this guy who knows absolutely nothing about the game.

[Shadowedsoul]

+1 from me :)

[Dr`Delicious]

This is pretty sweet~

[Dabearsown]

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[Good_Apollo]

Mill is completely incorrect, go into a practice game spawn two Thunderbringers one with a staff and one without, then ult with them both and they are exactly the same. So please don't listen to this guy who knows absolutely nothing about the game.Uhh...what?

If you get Staff there are changes:

Swift: Swords glow blue.
Pyro: Blue flames.
Thunder: Staff is electrified.
Moonqueen: Glowing Moon above her head.
Magmus: Hammer turns fiery.
Plague: Dragon gets spikes on his tail.

Ect...what you're asking for I guess though, is for the actual ults themselves to be different.

[Dabearsown]

If you "READ" my post its to change the "ULTS" to make the "ULTS" look "COOLER". The stupid glowing effect isn't even that noticeable.

[ShammySham]

I'd love to see it, but for now I want S2 to focus on more important things. (ie balance, bugs)

[Dabearsown]

balances will be made throughout the entire lifetime of the game, as they were in dota. This can be something finished before they hit retail, but unlikely. Just trying to keep the game taking steps further away from its competition.

[Dabearsown]

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[LotharsHedge]

Who doesn't want things to look cooler?

[KingReaper]

let witch slayer shoot dual revolvers !1!1

[Killstealing]

Mill is completely incorrect, go into a practice game spawn two Thunderbringers one with a staff and one without, then ult with them both and they are exactly the same. So please don't listen to this guy who knows absolutely nothing about the game.
hurp durp TB with staff has a sparkling staff

[Dabearsown]

hurp durp TB with staff has a sparkling staff

Do u have downsydrome or some sort of ailment and need assistance because there are places for that.

This post is ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! about chaning the ---> ULTS <-----

So if your to ignorant to read the original post then please dont comment.

[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

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[A_v_a_t_a_r]

Although cosmetic effects are nice, what I really like on Sotm is when the ults get buffed in a way that isn't just a direct increase. For example, on Pyromancer, Thunderbringer, Pollywog, Witch Slayer, etc., Sotm just increases the damage of their ults.

More interesting upgrades are like the cooldown decrease on Ophelia's ult or for example the night vision on Night Stalker from Dota, or the extra ability on Nymph's ult.


I think people consider if this is really what they want S2 to focus on. If you would rather have balance updates or new content instead of cosmetic changes, vote no.

[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

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[pineappledan]

I would LOVE to see what they could do with soul reaper's. I always thought the animation was lame, so when you boost it you could get something way more badass
I don't know what you could do for heroes who's boost is a reduction in cooldown though. ie. pharoah, rampage, andromeda

[dotpic]

They already have weapon/model affects
But I think a different visual would be cool for ults
Moon Queen - Has a crescent moon over her
Thunderbringer - Staff is all ELECTROIE

[pineappledan]

They already have weapon/model affects
But I think a different visual would be cool for ults
Moon Queen - Has a crescent moon over her
Thunderbringer - Staff is all ELECTROIE

these people can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that this has nothing to do with character model effects....

[Dabearsown]

i agree pineappledan, where in my post does it say anything about the character model, lol. But yes Soulreapers ult could be cool, but the ult i think they could do amazing things with is swiftblade. If you get a SotM on swift maybe his ult could do a cooler combination of attacks, instead of what they have now.

[Dabearsown]

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[WarKirby]

It'd be nice, but that's all. It would be a significant investment of developer time to make new graphics for the ults of all the 20 or so heroes that can use the staff.

And what's the payoff? a slightly better effect on something you use once in a blue moon. It seems like a waste of time and resources to me. S2's actions and policies generally display a tight budget.

[ZerchX]

Too bad its only for those heroes that can boost their ultimate with SotM.

but nice idea btw.

[Dabearsown]

And what's the payoff? a slightly better effect on something you use once in a blue moon. It seems like a waste of time and resources to me. S2's actions and policies generally display a tight budget.


S2 prides themselves on how they are constantly upgrading the game and making it about their community, and if the community wants cooler ults they will sit down for 1 day and create cooler ults. And also if you only use your ult once in a blood moon ur trash.

[A_v_a_t_a_r]

S2 prides themselves on how they are constantly upgrading the game and making it about their community, and if the community wants cooler ults they will sit down for 1 day and create cooler ults. And also if you only use your ult once in a blood moon ur trash.

He made a valid point, and then you respond with a personal attack -_- And you're wrong, he was in fact referring to the fact that most heroes with SotM upgrades don't frequently get SotM, so it is in fact rare that you would see it. S2 doesn't need to spend time on trivial cosmetic changes like this.

[Fornozo]

Who wouldn't say yes to this?
I would since it would encourage already bad players to keep buying this item because their ult will look cooler.

[Baer]

I would vote "Yes", but I guess it's a waste of S2's time.
It would be a cool gimmick though, but there are more important things for sure. :krak:

[terrorclown]

They should fix the SOtM problem with the item being basically useless for a lot of heroes as well. Witch Slayer and Succubus, for example, benefit almost nothing at all from having Staff, whereas it's pretty much a given item on Hag.

Boost Witch's ultimate with SOtM to up his damage to compensate for the lack of a stun as opposed to Pyro, and have SOtM boost Succubus' ulti's recharge time to help her with her tiny mana pool, for instance, and you'll be taking a few steps in the right direction...

[Herlgar]

Notice: Witch slayer's one is coller with SotM

And what could they change to devourer's ult :O

[Asrial]

:accu: = Changes his ulti fire-colour to a distinctive purple and white-glowing flame + gives him a more blue-toned firecolour
:andr: = Her body gets alittle more "sparkly" + a small outline of the swapped heroes (Andro + xxx) staying for 2 seconds after swap
:chro: = A more transparent version of the bubble + slightly toned with the colour of the team
:deme: = The clouds turns into a very dark toned cloud-color, and a small crash of lightning-sound is played.
:devo: = More gore!
:glac: = The ground around him gets totally frozen visually + the storm is itensified
:magm: = Slightly chars the ground around him, gets more charred the longer the ulti affects the same piece of ground
:moon: = Makes the affected targets glow slightly, and even more if hit multiple times
:nymp: = Small blue orbs will occasionally fly out from her body, like once every 5-15 seconds
:ophe: = A green shockwave pulses out from her, very brief
:phar: = 2 grey lines, and depending on what they hit, his movements and the beam will turn into that colour
:plag: = Color turns into a contrasted black/white + if hit, enemies turns slightly pale for a short duration of time
:poll: = Lasers will get thicker and turn green + the wards will get another model, eventually with a "shoop da whoop"-face
:pyro: = Will yell "I'm the firestarter" instead of the normal + the resulting explosion will double in size
:ramp: = A small, green lump will fly in the opposite direction of where you hit + a trail of blood will be left from where your victim moved in relation to the horned strike auto-proc (find the joke btw)
:slit: = Covers the ground in green residue/Colours the water green
:soulr: = If the opponent dies due to the ulti, the grim reaper will grab the soul and drag it into the nether world in a great doomsday-like portal animation
:succ: = A pink ring will be placed on the ground below the victim, with pink residue and small, purple hearts flying up the air
:swif: = Random bodyparts will fly after each slash
:thun: = Rolling uber-thunder will play + and a MASSIVE bolt of lightning will hit, leaving a little black dot where you stood the moment the lightning hit you
:vood: = His wards gets bigger and looks more scary
:tort: = Denser AoE-graphic, and small eerie faces pops out, with a tortured and despaired look
:witc: = Says "boom, headshot" in a quiet manner + a matrix-like animation added
:wret: = More bats, and the animation lingers in the hit area for 2 seconds
:chip: = Saws gets a rusty finish + his projectiles will get a more steel-like finish, with the tips covered in oil

Name more if I forgot something. ^^
EDIT: Changed some details, and added nymphoras!

[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

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[Dabearsown]

Great ideas Asrial i put them in my headline

[DVNO911]

Good idea, the only bad thing is that more people will probably buy this useless item on WS/Pyro ^^

[Asrial]

:D Thank you for the copy-paste OP. :X
I've changed my post alittle bit, so copy it again please. X-X'

[MrJabber]

Do this!!! DO IT I SAY!!!! NAOOOO!!!!!!!!i!!

[GauntElakor]

^^^^^^^^... YEAH, Whatever MrJabber said.

But this would be a LOT more awesome if every hero could use SotM

[ain]

Overall a good idea, not only because of asthetics but also because it can be important information.

Visual effects affecting the ground around a character are impossible however, since they would make juking useless.

[RogueFrog]

Atleast accursed ulti would look cool after that.
Anyone ever bothered to buy sotm for him ?

[Dabearsown]

Does S2 even acknowlege these forums at all. I mean how many people have to love this idea for them to do it?

[Asrial]

...Visual effects affecting the ground around a character are impossible however, since they would make juking useless.
Of course, they won't be displayed through the FoW, in the same manner trees act like. The ground "re-texturing" would only last for about 4 seconds or so, and if it happens that FoW hits the area while the effect was still up, then it will just keep being displayed until someone lifts the FoW once again by exploring that area.

[Dabearsown]

It would be like the new tree death animation. You can see it but no1 else can anymore.

[Boy_]

Might take a lot of effort to implement but i think the concept is nice

[EssejSnilloc]

T-down.
This is a huge waste of effort. I'd rather see new items and heroes added than have them waste time reanimating a bunch of stuff. Making the hands/staves/swords of heroes shiny when they get SotM is more than enough for me.

[IAmLadyGaga]

God, no - anything which makes more people get sotm will just make pub games even worse.

It's almost never the right item to get and people should just stop buying it.

[XSkiBBiDyx]

I like it. Customization is always a neat thing to have in games, but as of right now, I feel that it'd be better to add content to the game first. Before adding such a luxurious feature.

[karaflix]

I want my game to look awesome now.

[GauntElakor]

This could make the game look awesome now

[FranticFrog]

Voted "Yes"... always "Yes" on eye candy :D
I am agreeing with people demanding more content, especially heroes, over eye candy though.

[Dabearsown]

I feel that with this game being released and in beta stages for going on 3 years now. That the game itself should be complete, and something like this should find its way into the game.

[Bwned]

I love the idea. This would make really low-level games interesting to watch, since everyone possible would get SotM for the cooler ults. :p

[Gogul]

sounds awsome, but it's a big change, i don't think S2 will be adding this soon :)
i would love to see this in the game

[Sachy]

Nice suggestion +1

[CptnUtility]

:phar: = 2 grey lines, and depending on what they hit, his movements and the beam will turn into that colour

Persoanlly i think his eyes should shines extremely bright after the use of his ulti